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January 16, 2019, 03:37:57 AM Last edit: January 23, 2019, 02:57:42 AM by lobcmt2 Merited by Stedsm (2), hoangkieu (2), OgNasty (1), TMAN (1) |
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Hello all newbies, I have a news, that I got during my active time in the forum today, for you The cost of forum's Copper membership will rise three-times than its current price.There is the message from the forum, which you also can see it yourself in the top-left corner of the forum interface. The displayed message will fluctuated between some set-up messages, so sometimes you will see the news, sometimes will not. News: The copper membership price will increase by about 300% around Friday. Now, let's visit the following link to see how much a Copper Memberships current cost? (if you are newbie and don't know how to see it, please click on the blue words/ phrases that contain hyperlinks). It costs around 0.0021 BTC for now. Updated with a official fees of Copper Membership from theymos: - At BTC rate: Full details are there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote- At Grin rate: Full guide is there: DO NOT POST SESC LINKS
Next question, which types of previledges you can have by buying a Copper Membership? The membership will gives you some previledges, that you can see in the above link. 1) Posting images even if you are a newbie; 2) Reducing the time-between-actions limit; 3) Providing some of the same benefits as being of natural Member rank. Let's hurry up (especially developer accounts that have been in Newbie rank) before the cost rising to nearly 0.00624 BTC for each Copper Membership. Another good news is that theymos states that he will update the rate of Grin for a Copper membership manually over time. The prices and ratios in the forum's automatic payment handling are not permanent, but I only update them manually from time to time.
More details are available in the above link, please read guide steps carefully for your interests.
For Spambies, the coming rise of Copper Membership cost will certainly not make them happy. In my opinion, the new cost will help the forum, at least in two things: - Reducing scam developer accounts to buy cheap Copper Memberships and easily spread their scam projects around; - Reducing 'wealthy' spambies who readily to spend a small amount of BTC for copper memberships in order to be joinable in some campaigns.
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January 16, 2019, 03:42:59 AM |
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Here is the reason why the price will be increasing: Has anything been written anywhere about the reasons for this? I can't imagine it's a money making measure. I also can't imagine it's going to deter the people who aren't already deterred by it.
It's just that I last changed the price when the BTC/USD price was $12k, so it's drifted from the intended value. Evil fees will also be updated. The price will be fixed in bitcoins so imagine what will happen when we enter a bull market again.
Then I'll (eventually) adjust it downward again. I like to keep the BTC-denominated price pretty stable and not change it every time the market freaks out in either direction, but it's supposed to have a vaguely consistent real value. The evil fees (small fee which enables posting for those registered in blacklisted/banned IPs) will also increase in price.
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January 16, 2019, 04:22:37 AM Last edit: January 16, 2019, 04:50:45 AM by CryptopreneurBrainboss |
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Thanks mate I never noticed it and since I'm a member ranked users, I don't have much interest in Copper membership but in the spirit of donating to the forum I might buy one at senior member rank. Concerning your topic body, I believe you misused the code feature. The code feature should be used when you're giving out a code or formula etc (just like I'm about doing) so use this instead [quote]...paste your messages here.. [/quote] You know that's not a rule, right? You can use it with whatever you want.
No I didn't but now I do thanks. Although using the write tools should be encouraged. Detergents is for washing while soap is for bathing, get it? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 16, 2019, 04:36:14 AM |
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Thanks mate I never noticed it and since I'm a member ranked users, I don't have much interest in Copper membership but in the spirit of donating to the forum I might buy one at senior member rank. Concerning your topic body, I believe you misused the code feature. The code feature should be used when you're giving out a code or formula etc (just like I'm about doing) so use this instead [quote]...paste your messages here.. [/quote] You know that's not a rule, right? You can use it with whatever you want. Also, the code-tag box just looks slicker than the quote one.
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January 16, 2019, 10:17:12 AM |
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Thanks mate I never noticed it and since I'm a member ranked users, I don't have much interest in Copper membership but in the spirit of donating to the forum I might buy one at senior member rank.
This kind of donations were already discussed some times, and theymos said the forum doesn't need more money for now. I even suggested new donators rank, as I wanted to donate also (but not 50btc for donator rank) Copper membership is not supposed to be used for donations, but for newbies restrictions
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January 16, 2019, 10:50:50 AM |
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Copper membership is not supposed to be used for donations, but for newbies restrictions
To the forum it isn't a donation but from me it is. I don't have 50BTC to give and I don't need copper membership to avoid newbies restrictions because I'm not a newbie. Me sending that bitcoin does no harm to the forum so we're all good. I just love the name copper (in my county) we call graduate who're serving the county that name 😂 so I see no harm in sending few BTC to receive that name. Other higher rank users are doing so too.
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January 16, 2019, 12:59:19 PM |
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It is why I give link to the page first, then retrieving want I want to mention inside codes, not quotes. Moreover, if you want to use quote, so quote what? In my understanding, quotes used when you want to mention about contents inside previous posts/ threads. The information on Copper Membership is not post/ thread, right? The purpose of quoting is to help readers fastly visit the original posts/ threads to get fully information and get the context of discussions if they want Snip
It will blow my mind away if someone readily to donate 50 BTC at current price of Bitcoin. Even Bitcoin fell deeply from it's all time high, 50 BTC at $3600 per BTC means lots of money. This kind of donations were already discussed some times, and theymos said the forum doesn't need more money for now. I even suggested new donators rank, as I wanted to donate also (but not 50btc for donator rank)
Increasing fees of Copper Memberships will better restrict spambies. They will feel more acceptable to pay the fees and join campaigns which allow Copper Members and pay for them at same dates of Junior member rank. Copper membership is not supposed to be used for donations, but for newbies restrictions
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January 16, 2019, 06:12:56 PM |
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This kind of donations were already discussed some times, and theymos said the forum doesn't need more money for now. I even suggested new donators rank, as I wanted to donate also (but not 50btc for donator rank)
I think the reason for that is Bitcointalk still auctions their banner spaces frequently which is a big money maker for the site especially when a lot of participants really want to have the banner spaces, just take a look at the latest round you will see that prices will get higher as the deadline comes close. That is why maybe theymos have not focused on changing the copper membership price swiftly even when it got down to around 3,000$.
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January 16, 2019, 09:04:34 PM |
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Is it really worth paying for cooper membership?
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January 17, 2019, 01:39:19 AM |
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Is it really worth paying for cooper membership?
Nah, if somebody is selling you a "cooper membership" you're safe to assume it's a scam. Being a Copper Member is a cool way to show that you support the forum and are willing to put a little 'skin in the game' when it comes to your account.
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January 17, 2019, 01:46:50 AM |
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Nah, if somebody is selling you a "cooper membership" you're safe to assume it's a scam. Being a Copper Member is a cool way to show that you support the forum and are willing to put a little 'skin in the game' when it comes to your account.
Really? I think that the Copper Membership originally created to allow developers to display images inside their posts/ threads in order to more efficiently express their ideas, plans, and the vision of their projects. Overtime, a Copper Membership compromised at somewhat extents by scammers, shitty projects' teams, and even spambies after the launch of merit system nearly one year ago. Some of spambies paid small fees to buy the Copper Membership and joined campaigns, shown their shits around the forum. For real users, I don't see reasons to buy a Copper membership. Newbies obviously need massive amount of time to discover all forum structures, serious boards, and child boards, basic crypto terminologies, and so on. They don't need the membership and its previlidges, one of them is displaying images. To be honest, image-attached posts/ threads from new users are among the most annoying stuffs in the forum. It is also why theymos decided restricting only Junior Members/ Copper Members and above to be able to display images.
It depends. If you are a developer, and have a project that announced in the forum, you should. If you are not a developer, you should not. Is it really worth paying for cooper membership?
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January 17, 2019, 01:59:02 AM |
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Really? I think that the Copper Membership originally created to allow developers to display images inside their posts/ threads in order to more efficiently express their ideas, plans, and the vision of their projects. Overtime, a Copper Membership compromised at somewhat extents by scammers, shitty projects' teams, and even spambies after the launch of merit system nearly one year ago. Some of spambies paid small fees to buy the Copper Membership and joined campaigns, shown their shits around the forum. For real users, I don't see reasons to buy a Copper membership. Newbies obviously need massive amount of time to discover all forum structures, serious boards, and child boards, basic crypto terminologies, and so on. They don't need the membership and its previlidges, one of them is displaying images. To be honest, image-attached posts/ threads from new users are among the most annoying stuffs in the forum. It is also why theymos decided restricting only Junior Members/ Copper Members and above to be able to display images.
It depends. If you are a developer, and have a project that announced in the forum, you should. If you are not a developer, you should not. Is it really worth paying for cooper membership?
I agree, ranking up to Member isn't really that difficult. Just need some patience and meaningful contributions. Even before the announcement, I contemplated purchasing out of sheer curiosity but then decided against it as I'm not too far from unlocking it for free.
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January 17, 2019, 02:28:45 AM |
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Being a Copper Member is a cool way to show that you support the forum and are willing to put a little 'skin in the game' when it comes to your account.
For real users, I don't see reasons to buy a Copper membership. I literally just gave you two reasons. It is a cool way to show that you support the forum and are willing to put a little 'skin in the game' when it comes to your account.
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January 17, 2019, 05:59:15 AM |
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Is it really worth paying for cooper membership?
Considering the price,it is worth it for those who are finding it extremely difficult to move over to Jr member rank and participate in bounties,the CM privilege circumvents most of those restrictions for them and it comes at a fairly cheap rate But for others with a higher rank and need not to bypass any restrictions,it could be seen as a former of donation(though theymos said the forum needs no money) and it could also be seen as acquiring another rank to theirs etc
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January 17, 2019, 07:07:24 AM |
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It is definitely not a large amount to pay for the average scammer, because most of these people will pay that with a smile. I think the most positive thing out of this is the increased cost to prevent image spamming on the forum. I was always under the impression that the Copper members were only lazy posters that wanted to take a shortcut to full member privileges, but now I see why some people would also opt to go that alternate route. Thanks OP. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) <Donator status>
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January 17, 2019, 07:13:35 AM |
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Think its funny that services that accept btc only raise in price as btc raises aswell, the fees we had at 20k price were a joke , I don't agree with this stuff if we ever accept to get adoption and coverage in countries were "small fees" can mean enough, not for bitcoin, honestly doge has been doing a great job at being cheap and it's price was pretty insane for a while.
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January 17, 2019, 07:43:05 AM |
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If there is a voting poll how much should be the price for copper member, it should be 0.015 BTC on my view. With the INSTANT benefit of faster intervals on posts, unlocking the posting of images and most of the benefits a regular member rank has, that is already too much just by paying a few BTC. 0.0021 BTC is not that much that is why a lot of scammers out there would prefer to pay it and scam people. Increasing it to 0.00624 is only a slight increase for these benefits they are getting. I suggest to have it raise more.
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January 17, 2019, 08:16:08 AM |
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If you can get your hands on some cheap grin, that might be a way to lower the cost of a Copper Membership.
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January 17, 2019, 10:24:45 AM |
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There is the message from the forum, which you also can see it yourself in the top-left corner of the forum interface. The displayed message will fluctuated between some set-up messages, so sometimes you will see the news, sometimes will not.
Really? But as far as I am concern, the news always appear to my screen every time I visit here. Anyway, still props for your effort to post this because I can see that you make someone get aware of this ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Is it really worth paying for cooper membership?
It doesn't have a significant value for me (maybe because I'm already a Full Member). It was just a decoration under your name. Yout post quality and your behavior as a member still matter the most. I suggest to have it raise more.
I agree. 0.00624 btc was so easy to afford by the scammers. They still be willing to pay for this knowing the possibilities of earning more from their scams so I guess the fee should be bigger or at least make another rule which will stop those scammers. Nevertheless, this is good improvement already.
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January 17, 2019, 05:51:46 PM |
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Is nice for you to draw our attention to that fact and I don't think it's only for the newbie some other members of the forum are also interested in the copper membership And even though the prices are increased users would still get the copper membership
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