Reference topic: Why are these members excluded on trust lists?

[Timelord2067]

Circle Jerk.

TomatoCage gives TomatoCage1 (their own alt) DT Trust http://archive.fo/KLejM#selection-9.735529-9.735907

TomatoCage1 gives quickseller DT Trust

quickseller gives tomatocage DT trust

(am cross posting for anyone who may have missed it)

[The Sceptical Chymist]

(am cross posting for anyone who may have missed it)

I did see that on the other thread--not sure if it's off-topic here, but is QS on DT now or what?  And I thought Tomatocage was off DT.

~TheUltraElite:<snip>

~xtraelv:<snip>

I don't think either one of these members is untrustworthy, but to each his own (nor marlboroza).  You claimed that xtraelv was aiming to be on DT, and while that could certainly be true I don't suspect it was for nefarious purposes.  He has been very good at busting scams along with cryptodevil.  Just my 2 cents; it's your trust list.

[Lauda]

~TheUltraElite:<snip>

~xtraelv:<snip>

I don't think either one of these members is untrustworthy, but to each his own (nor marlboroza).  You claimed that xtraelv was aiming to be on DT, and while that could certainly be true I don't suspect it was for nefarious purposes.  He has been very good at busting scams along with cryptodevil.  Just my 2 cents; it's your trust list.

I do also question why TheUltraElite is exlcluded. I've seen him a couple of times and talked to him a couple of times. He seems to have good judgement unless I have missed something.

[TMAN]

I do also question why TheUltraElite is exlcluded. I've seen him a couple of times and talked to him a couple of times. He seems to have good judgement unless I have missed something.

He is a good lad, not about much any more  but I think that's due to studies.

[TheUltraElite]

I do also question why TheUltraElite is exlcluded.

Went through the hierarchical list and found that Hhampuz is the person who has added me to their trust list turning me from neutral trust to DT-2 much to my displeasure because I prefer to stay off the drama that goes around DT in the forum, like for instance the cryptohunter spam, though I guess its just me because I tend to visit the forum more for its discussions related to crypto and at times calling out the scum and the scammers trying to rob naive newbies and obviously account sellers.

I've seen him a couple of times and talked to him a couple of times. He seems to have good judgement unless I have missed something.

Just a couple of times?

He is a good lad, not about much any more  but I think that's due to studies.

I keep track of everything happening in the forum even when I am not logged in. Still trying to balance studies and visiting the forum.

[Timelord2067]

(am cross posting for anyone who may have missed it)

I did see that on the other thread--not sure if it's off-topic here, but is QS on DT now or what?  And I thought Tomatocage was off DT.

TC is included by 97 and excluded by 27 (and more importantly is included by theymos http://archive.fo/KBj0E#selection-9.103901-9.103908 )

QS is included by just 21 (included by such luminaries as james.lent, escrow.ms and goose20) and excluded by 77 ( http://archive.fo/KBj0E#selection-9.636672-9.636763 )

[LoyceV]

Currently excluded
~Alex_Sr
Right after being on DT2, he left positive trust to the many users he seems to like, and deleted it after being excluded. Apparently being on DT is more important than leaving accurate ratings. He is "still very inexperienced in matters of trust".
Reminder for myself: review this one somewhere in the future (weeks/months)

Alex_Sr was on DT2 already, and moved up to DT1 today. This seems like a good moment to re-evaluate, and I'm no longer excluding him.
I'm still not entirely happy with the way he left and then removed trust, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (like many other users have done).

[coinlocket$]

~yo-blin untrustworthy management
~TradeFortress 🏕 Obvious reason
~peloso conspiration
~needmoney untrustworthy management
~cryptohunter conspiration
~hua_hui untrustworthy management
~Gleb Gamow untrustworthy management
~Thule conspiration
~olcaytu2005 untrustworthy management
~Ehrhc scammer
~Yankeestyle scammer
~trugad untrustworthy management
~Bazinga442 conspiration
~Xwin untrustworthy management
~Deena conspiration
~H8bussesNbicycles conspiration

Even if they are excluded from my trust list most of them have no feedback.

Serial bad managers like tokensuite people have the feedback also.


Update:

~yo-blin
~TradeFortress 🏕
~peloso
~needmoney
~cryptohunter
~marcotheminer
~Hexah
~hua_hui
~Gleb Gamow
~Thule
~Fire Rabbit
~stingers
~olcaytu2005
~game-protect
~cheus
~Ehrhc
~Yankeestyle
~ok-aurus
~trugad
~Blossom15
~Bazinga442
~Xwin
~Deena
~Joseph R. Cord
~Rambotnic
~Dig Bicks
~H8bussesNbicycles
~The-One-Above-All

[LoyceV]

Update:

~BetKing.io
Scammed me out of $700 and left 6 users fake retaliation feedback after I opened a scam accusation.

[LoyceV]

Update:

~griffoninvest
Leaves fake red trust to spam hunters after theymos wiped all yobit signatures.

Yesterday, I created a tool to archive trust ratings, which is what I used.

[LoyceV]

Updated:

~BillyBurns
Shills hard for a scammer, and leaves fake red trust to people who tagged said scammer.

[LoyceV]

Updated:

~Kriptonian1661
Leaves fake red trust.

[Timelord2067]

My distrust list has been paired down considerably since my previous post and now looks like this:

Code:

~asche
~BenTheAnonMod
~bill gator
~BitcoinSupremo
~Bleutrade
~cryptohunter
~Cyrus
~defcon23
~EcuaMobi
~El-Cezeri
~erikalui
~Erkallys
~exstasie
~Gleb Gamow
~gospodin
~Hhampuz
~hilarious*
~hilariousandco
~hilariousetc
~Kalemder
~kano
~Lafu
~Lauda
~logictense
~marlboroza
~mexxer-2
~monbux
~peloso
~PHI1618
~Phinnaeus Gage
~Quickseller
~The-One-Above-All
~Tomatocage
~Vispilio
~VonSpass
~YuTü.Co.in
~Zeroxal
~Zin-Zang

All the rest that were removed are mostly inactive alts or, have little or no merits.  Let that one sink in for a moment...

The new additions appear to be part of an attempt to get an unknown user into the DT1 with Vispilio on 250+ merits after begging for merits he then didn't hand out but did give dozens of merits out in bulk to El-Cezeri, Kalemder, PHI1618 and gospodin which makes up half of the ten needed for an unknown user to be voted into DT1 similar to the 550+ merits wasted trying to get someone onto DT1 a few weeks back.

[Vispilio]

The new additions appear to be part of an attempt to get an unknown user into the DT1 with Vispilio on 250+ merits after begging for merits he then didn't hand out but did give dozens of merits out in bulk to El-Cezeri, Kalemder, PHI1618 and gospodin

I did not beg for merits; I applied to become a merit source following the recommended forum procedure, for very specific reasons that are clearly beyond your intellectual capabilities to figure out.

The disgusting hateful way you typically construct your messages should instantly disqualify you from any trust list as a dishonorable human being @Timelord2067, but I will respond one final time for the benefit of valuable and intellectual members of this forum who might be reading.

I give merits to El-Cezeri, Kalemder & gospodin because these are some of the most active and helpful members on the Turkish forums.

I asked Kalemder & El-Cezeri "are you the same person", they said no, but that they were related and shared the same house, even the same PC sometimes (actual quotes for this are all available on the Turkish section and in my post history).

Are they the same guy? I don't know I did not investigate them like a detective. What I do know is both of them come up with an extra-ordinary number of high quality posts which most people on the Turkish section love and engage with, but I still merit them 50% of what they would otherwise get from me in the name of fairness and equal opportunity to all local participants.

PHI1618 on the other hand  is a special case; as a matter of fact I'm the guy who disclosed the giant merit circle jerking that went on for about a year in the Turkish forums led by PHI1618, and ever since I found out about it with good evidence, I have not given him a single merit, and will not do so out of my general principles of justice and meritocracy.



a special appeal to @theymos and other honorable DT1 members:

this guy @Timelord2067 pursues a provably false medieval inquisition against the Turkish section day and night now, raises lies and false accusations about me in multiple parts of the forum, and I hope you will agree with me that it's a total waste of time to have to humor every amount of unbelievable deranged lunacy this guy serves on a daily basis to protect one's reputation on a respectable forum like this,

so I ask you what is the procedure in the forum against psychos like this, so they finally understand they fucked up and take their insane ideas elsewhere ?..




Special Edit upon LoyceV's request

I'm excluding user @Timelord2067 from all of my past, present and future lists, and I want to make it crystal clear that it's not based on retaliation, but based on the very tangible observation that this guy brings a level of crazy to the game that one wouldn't expect to encounter even in Turkish state asylums for the clinically insane...

[Timelord2067]

Archived for future reference...

...

Kind of creepy how you're stalking me in threads you have never posted in before.

Never the less, I look forward to @theymos reviewing my evidence and making a determination.

(With apologies to @LoyceV for the intrusion by this person into your thread)

[LoyceV]

Please stay on-topic in my thread

[LoyceV]

Bump with a new exclusion:

Currently excluded
~Blazr
This user's feedback is for sale, the account might be compromised.

[LoyceV]

Another update:

Reference post: Why have I excluded members on my trust list?
~Vadi2323
This guy gave yahoo62278 red feedback because of his personal vendetta against another user. See Reference post.

[LoyceV]

I've always tried to be very conservative when leaving feedback and when including/excluding users from my Trust list.
Today, I made my first DT1-exclusion:

Currently excluded
~wolwoo
1. In one week, this DT1-member added 24 users to his Trust list. Most of those users never left any feedback and don't have a custom Trust list. Therefore, they don't belong on DT2, and the user who adds them doesn't belong on DT1.
2. 4 months ago, this user left positive feedback to 16 users, all without reference link. The only thing they seem to have in common is their nationality, just like the users on his Trust list. That shouldn't be a reason to give them positive feedback and/or DT2-powers.
3. This user leaves retaliation feedback.

For the above reasons, I ask all other users to consider excluding ~wolwoo too.

As a reference: this is what I consider correct use of the Trust system: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.

I've deleted wolwoo's off-topic posts. This topic isn't meant to just post a Trust list. Wolwoo is welcome to post again if he can add his reasons for the exclusions:

Share yours
I encourage everyone to keep track of the reasons behind their own exclusions too.
I don't think it's helpful to create many topics on this, feel free to use 1 post here for yours (including reasons), and I'll link it from the next post.

I can't wait to see "retaliation" as a reason instead of valid thoughtful reasons that are worthy of being on DT.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Peloso has contacted me twice in the past couple of weeks regarding removal of my exclusion, and I honestly don't even remember why I have him excluded.  The same could be said about some other members I have as inclusions or exclusions, and it's basically my absentmindedness flaring up.  I did have a look at his feedback, however, and I'm pretty sure my exclusion is justified.  I'll have to take a closer look, but not now.  My eyes and mind are fatigued.

~The Pharmacist

Gee, I was just going to comment that I was excluding you from my trust list as well when i noticed that you'd posted that.  Reason: you're quite obviously mentally unstable and if you were ever to stay on any level of DT, it would be a disgrace to the system.  My exclusion of you might not have a powerful effect, but it's one that I can comfortably live with.  Bye bye, princess.