So I played again recently, i noticed something..

[kryptqnick]

If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

This is not about cheating but this is what the actual skill which is doing the real magic in gambling.

I agree that only skill-based games can provide regular profits to professionals. One can of course exploit some troubles with games on certain websites or in physical world, but that is not fair and will probably eventually be revealed anyway. That colour game sounds like a fame of chance in perfect conditions. It might be that in real life the angles are not perfect and the ball falls on some colours more often than on others, but I wouldn't count on that. After all, it could be a coincidence, or maybe even that same place will use another desk (or whatever they use), but you won't notice and will lose big time.

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[playboy654]

If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

This is not about cheating but this is what the actual skill which is doing the real magic in gambling.

I agree that only skill-based games can provide regular profits to professionals. One can of course exploit some troubles with games on certain websites or in physical world, but that is not fair and will probably eventually be revealed anyway. That colour game sounds like a fame of chance in perfect conditions. It might be that in real life the angles are not perfect and the ball falls on some colours more often than on others, but I wouldn't count on that. After all, it could be a coincidence, or maybe even that same place will use another desk (or whatever they use), but you won't notice and will lose big time.

Yes the playing method will be the answer to get the profits so make the quick sense that you are doing something with knowledge and experience it will be successful in any kind of situation.

[mersal]

I do not understand why this was posted here tough? I mean I understand the title says it is not for online gambling, but it is not even about gambling worldwide neither, its not about casinos neither, its just one game in one place that some people can play. Why is it talked about on a gambling discussion topic at bitcointalk forums? Should this be only for crypto casino games where we can play online ?

I am sure there are gambling games in many carnival places all around the world where the game is rigged and if you figure out how the game is rigged then you can probably get more money from that then playing online but that doesn't apply globally which makes it your issue and not others. You can talk about it with local people and your friends but why share it with us?

Is the gambling field will develop a lot in this scenario to improve our mind sense also it cast the people will come to understand the new generation of gambling society the thing that changes our life is gambling so we definitely need to understand very careful for the future.

[STT]

I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling

Smart cookies lol       Seems you took a gamble but observed a method to improve the odds and recover from any losses overall,  doesn't seem that far an observation for anyone to make.   Surely more people have noticed this fact and would take the gamble then just you.    I'm pretty surprised if there is a clear way to heavily advance your odds and this does not become self defeating, the operator has too many people copying each other and so the game is adjusted

Thats what usually happens, its probably relevant to game theory which is part of free markets and the discussion on capitalism itself.   The idea that anyone can make a profit but we are all ultimately competing which each other which makes the system self adjusting

[Oceat]

I don't want to do because I don't know if it could be successful or not and the risk is if other people found me cheating the game, they can punch me in my face with many people until I don't have a face hahaha
But it still worth to try your chances in that game but be careful, don't make any mistakes to cheat them because I am already telling you the risk and I don't want you to get something bad.

Dude, he is not cheating...

OP just showed us the probability of winning if we are attentive to the game you will notice the difference of how to win and how to lose. But then again it may be just luck that he did win because there are some other factors that affect the whole game e.g. weight, height, size, etc. Most games in the carnival had each own tricks if you are observant enough to notice them.

[peter0425]

I think this is well documented in a land based casino, case in point roulette, if you're observant you will notice that some numbers will always win, experts call this a biased numbers. It might has something to do with how the roulette was place or it is intentionally tilt by the casino management. However, you need to have like thousands if not mllions of samples before you can identify a table though, so there's a lot of hardwork behind.

[sheenshane]

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After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

I am very familiar with the games you have mentioned and I can say that you are from the Philippines as well. Well, I had an experience of betting with the color games with one peso bill and made that capital 150x or more (i can't recall) but I really won big time. I was just a ten-year-old those days but I can't forget that moment. For me, the techniques in that kind of local game are to invest 10% only of your capital and use it as your bet. You have to be patient and keep on betting 10% consistently so that you can earn a big profit and don't lose.

Maybe your observation is correct but I am not yet convinced since my uncle owns one and I don't see any hack well, in fact, I see them going home with a bad mood because of losing. Yes as an owner of the gambling hosting, you also bet with the game but your capital must be bigger too.

[Johnzky]

I assume you are from the Philippines and you are talking about the local gambling place called "perya". If I am correct about it, the house still have the advantage over their players, trust me I've tried it quite a few times already and noticed what you are pointing here but in the end they couldnt cheat you like what you are saying.

Yes mate. Im from the Philippines and yes we can say that they still couldnt cheat us because the dice and the ball can still move to different directions. Its not a 100% accurate but I can say that its a 75% more possibility than just making a hunch. Its effective for me, and still worth a try.

Well, no one can be sure if the house can cheat or not in the back end. But obviously the casino house favor the casino and not the players. I will suggest to go to trusted casino only as there you will have 75% of the chances that they support fair play.

Fair play in casino?you must be kidding man,gambling operators are chasing about our money as players and not to let us go with the wins thats why bankers always win(though there is some isolated cases that a player beat the bankers)

but yet this is not enough to say that there are 75% fairplay because it is not applicable in gambling industries

[ethereumhunter]

I don't want to do because I don't know if it could be successful or not and the risk is if other people found me cheating the game, they can punch me in my face with many people until I don't have a face hahaha
But it still worth to try your chances in that game but be careful, don't make any mistakes to cheat them because I am already telling you the risk and I don't want you to get something bad.

Dude, he is not cheating...

OP just showed us the probability of winning if we are attentive to the game you will notice the difference of how to win and how to lose. But then again it may be just luck that he did win because there are some other factors that affect the whole game e.g. weight, height, size, etc. Most games in the carnival had each own tricks if you are observant enough to notice them.

Yes, I know he's not cheating, but I am too lazy to give attentive closely at the game to know the chance to win or not. No matter win or lose, people that came at the carnival still get happy and enjoy with the game. But I am sure some people can win the game by giving attention and can get the important point of the game, and that person has luck too.

[Kakmakr]

The thing is, most of these operations will easily spot people that picked up on their strategy and they will politely ask them not continue gambling there. When I was young, I participated in a game at a local market, where you had to climb a tall pole that was greased and then retrieve a tag at the top to win a prize.

I figured out how to "cheat" and I won several of the prizes, until they asked me to stop participating in the game. <They say it was unfair towards other people and I already won too many of the prizes> 

Operations like this, will find news ways to change the odds in their favour, when they realize that people figured out how they were "cheating" the game. 

 

[eann014]

So i recently posted a thread here where houses always win in every game. Here's the link.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088278.msg48816442#msg48816442

After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

So heres what i noticed.
1. The game is what i told last time where there is this ball and wherever the color that ball lands, its the winning color and the price would be quadrouple your bet. So i noticed that theres a certain color that almost win. The color red. Its not just coincidence because last time i checked, it happened again. The color holes are somehow tilted and its not 0 degrees on level and the color red is what it will gonna hit on that position.


2. Color games with dice. So usually, this game consists of three dices , 6 color each (dice have 6 sides). The odds are less because it has more chances of winning. Ex. The dice turns yellow, blue and red, then all the bets will be x1 in that colors.The colors other than that is lost. If the 3 dices turns blue for example then all 5 colors are lost then blue is x3 and so on. If you will notice, the house always shuffle the dices before it roles and put those not winning color in place so that it will have less winners. Look at the position of the dices when it puts on the rolers, then usually, the color below or the color you did not see wins. I usually bet after the dices are arranged so that i can see its position.


I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling

It is not actually can be called cheating, it can be called as a strategy because you are saying that it is how you observe the flow of the game. Or maybe can be called as analyzing. Being observant is also good like analyzing and you applied it by playing gambling which is good that you triple your gambling capital.
If that is the color game that can be played with carnivals, then it is also good, you don't need to go on to the casino just to play and win jackpot prizes.

[DaddyMonsi]

I am familiar with this game, I guess this is the game that you are talking about.

If you got lucky and all the 3 dice goes to the color you selected then your money will worth 3x and yes before you place a bet, try to observe first what is the color that usually shows up. There are times they somewhat shave the edges of the dice and also observe the colors that shows up when they prepare the dice before rolling it down.

[rodel caling]

Cheating is a dirty bad ideas may cause it a bad karma, skills is the best way to enjoy the games not using cheating but people has have own strategy how get huge profits by using wrong ideas, I suggest be careful for your dirty ways it's possible they cause for your risk.

[nydiacaskey01]

Cheating is a dirty bad ideas may cause it a bad karma, skills is the best way to enjoy the games not using cheating but people has have own strategy how get huge profits by using wrong ideas, I suggest be careful for your dirty ways it's possible they cause for your risk.

OP is not cheating because he just followed something that he think is a trend based on his observation. The dice can't be rigged as well since its just made of an ordinary wood, the only thing the operator of that dice can do is how they position dice before they roll, what color is on top.

[Oceat]

The thing is, most of these operations will easily spot people that picked up on their strategy and they will politely ask them not continue gambling there. When I was young, I participated in a game at a local market, where you had to climb a tall pole that was greased and then retrieve a tag at the top to win a prize.

I figured out how to "cheat" and I won several of the prizes, until they asked me to stop participating in the game. <They say it was unfair towards other people and I already won too many of the prizes> 

Operations like this, will find news ways to change the odds in their favour, when they realize that people figured out how they were "cheating" the game. 

 

And that is the one thing that we have to put in our mind the "attention" that we created can make them notice us too quickly. But of course, the one that you are playing is noticeable mostly if you successively wins in a row. It would be unfair to everyone that who join in the game and can make them protest to stop us from playing that game. The house really knows who is the greedy one and that makes them take appropriate action.

[STT]

OP is not cheating because he just followed something that he think is a trend based on his observation.

In some games trying to observe and influence the odds would be considered a type of cheating.   I'm thinking of card counting where they'll put you out of the casino possibly if you are aware of too much.    I always thought that wasnt fair on what could be considered a skill but if a gambler can turn the odds in their own favour you can bet this situation doesnt ever last that long

[nydiacaskey01]

OP is not cheating because he just followed something that he think is a trend based on his observation.

In some games trying to observe and influence the odds would be considered a type of cheating.   I'm thinking of card counting where they'll put you out of the casino possibly if you are aware of too much.    I always thought that wasnt fair on what could be considered a skill but if a gambler can turn the odds in their own favour you can bet this situation doesnt ever last that long

Hmm what you brought up is interesting and it lead me to search for an answer if card counting is indeed illegal and I found this article or a write up about card counting

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/local/wp/2014/10/28/card-counting-cheating-or-civil-right/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ffc5975c2394

And I guess its correct that using a gadget or equipment to count would be considered illegal since you have the advantage of taking notes of whats being drawn out and how many is already drawn out, unlike counting in your capacity which is not really 100% accurate since you are not using anything to take notes.

[TravelMug]

OP is not cheating because he just followed something that he think is a trend based on his observation.

In some games trying to observe and influence the odds would be considered a type of cheating.   I'm thinking of card counting where they'll put you out of the casino possibly if you are aware of too much.    I always thought that wasnt fair on what could be considered a skill but if a gambler can turn the odds in their own favour you can bet this situation doesnt ever last that long

Unless you don't have any cheating device in your body to count cards then it should not be considered as cheating. However, I saw videos in Youtube and I'm assuming its in the US that card counters, once spotted by the managers will have to throw them out of the casino, really not fair.

Those guys have the skills and for sure they have practice it and perfected it at some point. So I would agree that the OP is not cheating but I don't know if it will work in the long run. Just be sure to go home once you can your money like x5 or x10, no need to be greedy.

[Dreamchaser21]

Cheating is a dirty bad ideas may cause it a bad karma, skills is the best way to enjoy the games not using cheating but people has have own strategy how get huge profits by using wrong ideas, I suggest be careful for your dirty ways it's possible they cause for your risk.

It's not a real cheat though since it just happen that the usual result of the dice is color red so there are tendency that every gambler will bet on that color. If you are in a local casinos like this, you must be observant since not all players are real most of them are member of the team who play just to attract people. Nevertheless, if you make profit its good for you just keep on thinking for the positive things.

[micher143]

So i recently posted a thread here where houses always win in every game. Here's the link.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088278.msg48816442#msg48816442

After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

So heres what i noticed.
1. The game is what i told last time where there is this ball and wherever the color that ball lands, its the winning color and the price would be quadrouple your bet. So i noticed that theres a certain color that almost win. The color red. Its not just coincidence because last time i checked, it happened again. The color holes are somehow tilted and its not 0 degrees on level and the color red is what it will gonna hit on that position.


2. Color games with dice. So usually, this game consists of three dices , 6 color each (dice have 6 sides). The odds are less because it has more chances of winning. Ex. The dice turns yellow, blue and red, then all the bets will be x1 in that colors.The colors other than that is lost. If the 3 dices turns blue for example then all 5 colors are lost then blue is x3 and so on. If you will notice, the house always shuffle the dices before it roles and put those not winning color in place so that it will have less winners. Look at the position of the dices when it puts on the rolers, then usually, the color below or the color you did not see wins. I usually bet after the dices are arranged so that i can see its position.


I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling

Well, good observation friend and it seems like it js not a fair game enough since you have notice that trick on the local carnival of yours. Even we might think that those local carnival games do always have the advantage to earn large profit from their players, it seems like cheating is not a great thing to be executed since players are sincerely playing tough just to win their price. But good thing you have noticed that matter and win what you must deserve if they did not take advantage of the game. That is why I trust on the online casino I am currently into because they have fair games that I could play plus the bonus they serve as a welcome reward for doing my first deposit.