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January 26, 2019, 11:05:58 AM
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leaving the ponzi scheme argument to one side for a moment, i would suggest that there are only two kinds of casino-funding schemes to get involved in:

1. Venture Capital investment (which requires full KYC and is not really open to mere mortals like us)
2. Fully trustless (i.e. 100% code-based) public blockchain solutions.

Even then 2 can be dubious unless you are really knowledgeable about the blockchain in question.

No offense, it's a decent enough thread, but I think OP is still stuck in crypto-hype bubble mode of early 2017-18. Money for nothing and your chicks for free...

what crypto-hype are you talking about?
this is a simple casino bankroll investment, he wants to get his coins work for him instead of gathering dust in the wallet
I think you don't have any idea how investments work, since there is no blockchain involved
you deposit your coins and get a share of a global bankroll ,simple as that
and venture capital investment , like , seriously  Grin

the crypto-hype that saw money-for-nothing pump-n-dump get-rich-quick-by-just-buying-into-an-ICO... i.e. 99% of coins.
the crypto-hype that saw retail buyers "investing" in BTC at 18K+
you know, 2017 and 2018...

>>you deposit your coins and get a share of a global bankroll ,simple as that

yes! money-for-nothing! come and get it. no risk involved...
crypto-hype.

Responsible forum posting can stop people taking risks they don't fully understand, which I think the OP is being encouraged to do on this thread by *some* others.
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January 26, 2019, 01:29:37 PM
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yes! money-for-nothing! come and get it. no risk involved...
crypto-hype.

Responsible forum posting can stop people taking risks they don't fully understand, which I think the OP is being encouraged to do on this thread by *some* others.

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This is just wrong. No one is saying there is no risk. The investment means that the investor funds the bankroll for gamblers to play against. Legitimate sites include crypto-games, just-dice, yolo-dice, betking and a few others. There are many illegitimate sites that will disappear and take the money - obviously very high risk.

Returns are 1% of total BETS (not investment), but will vary in the short term. Many sites have 'leveragability' where your bankroll invests a multiple of the actual money put in. In practice, most investors put in max leverage, so the system in actual practice allows the investor to de-risk against a major drawdown.
Investing in gambling is a solid investment, especially if the platform has set intelligent bet limits (generally .5% of the total bankroll against a 1% house favor). With this scenario, long-term, steady increase of investment approaches certainty.

It is NOT money for free, considering the investor must post funds that are at risk to various factors and also pays the opportunity cost of being unable to invest elsewhere.

In general, your opinions will receive greater respect if you provide solid evidence, research and logic. I'd recommend that in the future.





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January 26, 2019, 02:00:29 PM
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QUOTE:
yes! money-for-nothing! come and get it. no risk involved...
crypto-hype.

Responsible forum posting can stop people taking risks they don't fully understand, which I think the OP is being encouraged to do on this thread by *some* others.


It is NOT money for free, considering the investor must post funds that are at risk to various factors and also pays the opportunity cost of being unable to invest elsewhere.

In general, your opinions will receive greater respect if you provide solid evidence, research and logic. I'd recommend that in the future.


Exactly my point that this is *not* money for free.  
I agree 100% that there are various layers of risk involved in these schemes, and good to see someone else call them out on this thread.

On a side note, I think solid posting history is another way to build credibility on forums. Good luck building that up after your first ever post.
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January 26, 2019, 03:33:34 PM
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I am very interested to know which gambling sites are offering investments, I research it but it seems like information is not updated.
Please put the terms like the percentage and whatever necessary information that I should know.
I once invested my money in one of the online gambling sportsbooks but those in my country (not on online gambling sites that use cryptocurrency) and the results were indeed satisfying.

They offered around 100% profit in the short term, indeed, the first time I had a little bit of it was an impossible thing but one of my friends had experienced it and the results happened. At that time I only need about 3 months to get me 100% profit.

Honestly, I have never invested in online gambling that uses bitcoin or altcoin, but I have occasionally read yolodice that you can choose to become a place of investment.

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January 26, 2019, 03:44:25 PM
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I invested earlier in crypto-games online casino.
The result is: Invested DOGEcoin there and after one year and nine months, I got 150% for all time. Withdraw all coins without any problem.
I can't complain about anything there. Maybe investment can get a better percentage in other currency like BTC, but I just have a lot of DOGE so it was better than just hold.

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January 26, 2019, 04:09:59 PM
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I invested earlier in crypto-games online casino.
The result is: Invested DOGEcoin there and after one year and nine months, I got 150% for all time. Withdraw all coins without any problem.
I can't complain about anything there. Maybe investment can get a better percentage in other currency like BTC, but I just have a lot of DOGE so it was better than just hold.

DOGE has the best return for some reason
150% in two years is a fantastic result! I was happy when I got 12%+ on my investment in 13 months
I was invested in bitcoin and withdrew without any problem as well
mind you, investing is a risk, if you happen upon a very lucky whale, you could get negative profit
but that is not very likely to happen ,especially in the long run

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January 26, 2019, 05:25:02 PM
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Look like OP looking for ponzi scheme  Wink. I am not expert about gambling but I don't think you will find investment plan on gambling website. Investment plan really is a ponzi scheme, and gambling is different things. I will suggest you don't put your money this kind of investment plan. We have seen most of ponzi scheme turn out eventually. You can play game if you have knowledge and experience but don't find just easy way to earn money.
I am not sure but perhaps you will find investment plan gambling site. Just search on Google.
It glaring that you are indeed not an expert about gambling because the OP is definitely not looking for ponzi scheme because there a lot of gambling site which offered the exact investment which the OP is looking but I don't how they operate or pay their investors. But I will advice the OP to go through Yolodice and Bustadice.
 

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January 26, 2019, 05:47:43 PM
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A well run casino doesn't need outside investors.  Almost all casinos asking for bitcoin investments end up being a scam.  Since casinos have a good business model they wouldn't need your investment unless they are trying to scam.
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January 27, 2019, 11:42:06 AM
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leaving the ponzi scheme argument to one side for a moment, i would suggest that there are only two kinds of casino-funding schemes to get involved in:

1. Venture Capital investment (which requires full KYC and is not really open to mere mortals like us)
2. Fully trustless (i.e. 100% code-based) public blockchain solutions.

Even then 2 can be dubious unless you are really knowledgeable about the blockchain in question.

No offense, it's a decent enough thread, but I think OP is still stuck in crypto-hype bubble mode of early 2017-18. Money for nothing and your chicks for free...

what crypto-hype are you talking about?
this is a simple casino bankroll investment, he wants to get his coins work for him instead of gathering dust in the wallet
I think you don't have any idea how investments work, since there is no blockchain involved
you deposit your coins and get a share of a global bankroll ,simple as that
and venture capital investment , like , seriously  Grin
Exactly, also there hasn't been a crypto hype for over a year while all the coins value has been dropping, even if you made bitcoin profit in the past year the more likely scenario is that you lose value in dollar. Investing into crypto casinos is not to make money in dollars or not even make money in profit like trading but more like being a small time partner on a casino considering the house always wins.

Anyone who wants to invest into a casino thinks they will make profit since casinos always make profit and that has been around waaaay before the 2017 increase, people were capable of investing into casino bankroll as old as 2014 if I remember correctly, maybe even older that I do not know about. Which means this "crypto hype" of 2017 has nothing to do with someone wanting to invest into a casino.
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January 28, 2019, 02:45:12 AM
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A well run casino doesn't need outside investors.  Almost all casinos asking for bitcoin investments end up being a scam.  Since casinos have a good business model they wouldn't need your investment unless they are trying to scam.
This is true, maybe some of the new casino might need an investment but the risk is high since they are not yet established and since they control your money, when they are gone, your money is gone too. Most of the casinos also has no license, so that alone is part of the risk, you cannot go after them once they try to scam. With the status in gambling industry now, I guess it's hard to find an investment in a casino, so better invest somewhere else.

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January 28, 2019, 03:37:20 AM
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A well run casino doesn't need outside investors.  Almost all casinos asking for bitcoin investments end up being a scam.  Since casinos have a good business model they wouldn't need your investment unless they are trying to scam.

What about those long-running sites like Crypto-Games? It's a win-win situation that a casino has more BTC to deal with, as well as reward investors with a cut from their house edge.

Nevertheless, casinos are businesses but most, if not all of them have already warned beforehand that investing in their bankrolls might not yield positive returns if their profits drop.

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January 28, 2019, 11:24:07 AM
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A well run casino doesn't need outside investors.  Almost all casinos asking for bitcoin investments end up being a scam.  Since casinos have a good business model they wouldn't need your investment unless they are trying to scam.
This is true, maybe some of the new casino might need an investment but the risk is high since they are not yet established and since they control your money, when they are gone, your money is gone too. Most of the casinos also has no license, so that alone is part of the risk, you cannot go after them once they try to scam. With the status in gambling industry now, I guess it's hard to find an investment in a casino, so better invest somewhere else.
On the other side, casino also treat this as a good advertisement for their house, offering investment to an open public will add more traffics and potential
players, aside from investment they can also play inside the house, though logically you are correct that its risky as well for investors to take a slice with
newly introduce casinos better to review those existing already which got reviews coming from old and current investors.
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January 28, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
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Looks like a good a idea to invest in some gambling site, I never knew that there some gambling sites that offers a return of investment. Im glad I have seen this thread, I saw that yolodice offers return of investment which seems to be very legit because this site runs for a very long time and low risk of getting scammed with this reputable gambling site. Gonna try this out. Grin
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January 28, 2019, 02:47:50 PM
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The gambling sites that offer investments that I know is Bustadince and I have done that with them.  I think it seem to be more safer to invest in gambling sites than icos as many funds as been lose through icos investments.
i do believe that investing on gambling site such bustadice is most reliable/safe and more profitable in my opinion than investing in some ico's . Because the future of some projects nowadays is to hard to determine because of the situation of the market and mostly are scam and so difficult to recognize. , so much better to choose the most reliable and wherein for sure there's a big profits.
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January 28, 2019, 10:19:14 PM
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Looks like a good a idea to invest in some gambling site, I never knew that there some gambling sites that offers a return of investment.


Not even while you're wearing one as signature?

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January 28, 2019, 11:21:09 PM
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A well run casino doesn't need outside investors.  Almost all casinos asking for bitcoin investments end up being a scam.  Since casinos have a good business model they wouldn't need your investment unless they are trying to scam.
This is true, maybe some of the new casino might need an investment but the risk is high since they are not yet established and since they control your money, when they are gone, your money is gone too. Most of the casinos also has no license, so that alone is part of the risk, you cannot go after them once they try to scam. With the status in gambling industry now, I guess it's hard to find an investment in a casino, so better invest somewhere else.
Every place of investment must have a risk, someone will not be able to avoid it even though the place is the most trusted place, there must be a risk even though the form is not a scam. At least, when choosing a gambling place that has been widely trusted by various people such as yolodice or bustadice, one does not need to have excessive concerns to react to it. Even you only need time to make your money increase and take it slowly, online gambling that uses cryptocurrency is a lot and can even grow again in the next few years, I think this is a potential.
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January 29, 2019, 12:07:47 AM
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Do not try to invest on a gambling site for a fixed return, which may make you looser in many cases. If you want to invest then better invest on your bank.
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January 29, 2019, 03:37:38 AM
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What is investing in casinos?

You will invest to increase their bankroll. That means you are putting money into the casino so people can bet against it. That is, you are betting that the casino will win more games than it will lose against its user.

It is not a simple investment. It should be regarded as a lower risk bet. But it's still a gamble.

All casinos work with statistics that are favorable. This means that most likely in the long run you will make a profit.

yolodice.com

You will invest to increase their bankroll. Your investment will represent a portion of the bankroll in a group. So this means you are betting on yolodice against the players. If the site has profit, you will receive your share less their commission(35%). You could leverage too.
https://yolodice.com/#faq/investing

https://bitvest.io/investing
Your share is equal to (Your_Investment / (Global_Bankroll + Your_Investment)) * 100%
70% of profits to investors. So you pay them 30% if they deliver profits.

https://betking.io/invest

You pay 10% of the profits that you receive. So you keep 90%

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq


We take 30% of the profit/losses that are made in a 1-hour interval. Also, when calculating profit/losses, faucets and referral rewards are factored in. Over the long run, you can expect your profit to equal your percentage of the bankroll multiplied by house edge, total wagered amount, and 70%.

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January 29, 2019, 05:31:09 AM
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Do not try to invest on a gambling site for a fixed return, which may make you looser in many cases. If you want to invest then better invest on your bank.
Is there any site that offers that kind of return, I think it's always based on your amount invested and the profitable of the site in overall.
Kindly clarify because this world is quite new to me, I have invested before in a site bankroll and never receive any fixed amount, if players loss more I make more, just like the house, I think that's the norms, please enlighten me.

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January 29, 2019, 05:36:47 AM
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Do not try to invest on a gambling site for a fixed return, which may make you looser in many cases. If you want to invest then better invest on your bank.

Let's say I have parked my money in a bank and am just planning to do something different with my BTC (say less than 0.2) for passive income.

What do you suggest? I was thinking that FreeBitcoin's 5% could help with guaranteed Sats daily.

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