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January 24, 2019, 08:06:10 AM
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I apologize but could you tell me why my account was blocked, I didn’t seem to break anything  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2362361
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January 24, 2019, 08:13:18 AM
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I apologize but could you tell me why my account was blocked, I didn’t seem to break anything  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2362361

Most bans are for copy & paste (Plagiarism)

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January 24, 2019, 08:19:29 AM
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I apologize but could you tell me why my account was blocked, I didn’t seem to break anything  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2362361

Ban evasion.
Avtandil is alt of Audi-BMW1988 which has been banned for plagiarism probably.

Hello, my account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2051799

Name: Audi-BMW1988

Was hacked and blocked

Am asking you replace on a new https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2362361

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25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.
~ If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.
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January 24, 2019, 08:25:08 AM
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I apologize but could you tell me why my account was blocked, I didn’t seem to break anything  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2362361

Ban evasion.
Avtandil is alt of Audi-BMW1988 which has been banned for plagiarism probably.

Hello, my account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2051799

Name: Audi-BMW1988

Was hacked and blocked

Am asking you replace on a new https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2362361

Name: avtandil

Please save the stakes.I will continue to work


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#9 (banned)
Great project! I advise everyone to participate in it! Great project! good luck! and I enjoy watching the news! It looks a special project with a really promising potential. One of the most promising and successful projects to date! I advise everyone to join and to watch the development!

#10
Great project! I advise everyone to participate in it! Great project! good luck! and I enjoy watching the news! It looks a special project with a really promising potential. One of the most promising and successful projects to date! I advise everyone to join and to watch the development!
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25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.
~ If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

I made a mistake on the old account and realized it, why prohibit a new one if I realized the mistake and do not break more
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January 24, 2019, 08:29:27 AM
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I made a mistake on the old account and realized it, why prohibit a new one if I realized the mistake and do not break more
A copy paste plagiarism caused ban is not reversed. This is clearly explained in the forum rules. If you are not willing to read the before you start posting in the forum then nobody can help you. Plagiarism is a serious offence and your ban will not be lifted under any circumstances. You are allowed to make posts in "Meta" about your ban but you are not getting your account back. Even if you under the rules now and feel sorry you will have to bear the punishment.

 
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January 24, 2019, 08:32:46 AM
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I made a mistake on the old account and realized it, why prohibit a new one if I realized the mistake and do not break more
A copy paste plagiarism caused ban is not reversed. This is clearly explained in the forum rules. If you are not willing to read the before you start posting in the forum then nobody can help you. Plagiarism is a serious offence and your ban will not be lifted under any circumstances. You are allowed to make posts in "Meta" about your ban but you are not getting your account back. Even if you under the rules now and feel sorry you will have to bear the punishment.

was banned go fuck from the forum?  why they didn't tell me right away? I tried to develop and did not make more mistakes
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January 24, 2019, 09:00:00 AM
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I made a mistake on the old account and realized it, why prohibit a new one if I realized the mistake and do not break more
A copy paste plagiarism caused ban is not reversed. This is clearly explained in the forum rules. If you are not willing to read the before you start posting in the forum then nobody can help you. Plagiarism is a serious offence and your ban will not be lifted under any circumstances. You are allowed to make posts in "Meta" about your ban but you are not getting your account back. Even if you under the rules now and feel sorry you will have to bear the punishment.

was banned go fuck from the forum?  why they didn't tell me right away? I tried to develop and did not make more mistakes
The reply above implies that you follow due process in order to get your account back or reasons why it was Ban thereby continue with a new phase in the forum.

why delete my posts? it turns out I'm right
No!! it doesn't just because of your Ban evasion.
Hope you understand the rules and be guided by them strictly. Suggestions have be given that you open a thread on meta to ask what leads to your account be Banned.

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January 24, 2019, 09:02:04 AM
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First of all, i'm not an admin, i'm not a mod, i'm not in DT, i'm not the one that reported any of your accounts... So i guess i can talk from an independant perspective.

I think there's some confusion as to why your account was banned, and i think the confusion is caused because 2 different forum rules were broken, causing a permaban on your second account.

The first rule: The forum does not allow plagiarism. This rule caused your acocunt Audi-BMW1988 to be banned
The second rule:  ban evasion, causing your account avtandil to be banned

The first rule is self-explanatory. The second rule (ban evasion) states that if one of your accounts gets banned, it's not actually the acount that's banned, but it's you (as a person) that gets banned. Ofcourse, the result is that the account commiting the offence gets banned right away, but you should consider all your other (existing AND future) accounts to be banned aswell. Once one of your accounts is banned, you cannot use any of your other accounts to continue posting. The only exclusion from this rule is that you can use one (1) account to make one (1) thread in meta for the sole purpose of discussing your ban. You are not allowed to use any other account to create any other threads. Breaking this rule is a bannable offence by itself and (if found) is punished by an immediate permaban.

I do agree that it's very sad for you that you didn't realise the second rule existed and continued posting with your second account, and now you've lost a lot of time as a result. That being said: there is no automatic way of finding ban evasion, so all ban evasion rule breakers are found manually. This means that the time between comitting the actual ban evasion and being banned for ban evasion can be very long (some culprits are never found at all).

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January 24, 2019, 09:05:21 AM
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I made a mistake on the old account and realized it, why prohibit a new one if I realized the mistake and do not break more

You are still the same person, even if you change account name on the forum. You can expect to be banned all of the known connected your accounts. It is just a forum rule. you can accept it and or you do not have to.
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January 24, 2019, 09:08:59 AM
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First of all, i'm not an admin, i'm not a mod, i'm not in DT, i'm not the one that reported any of your accounts... So i guess i can talk from an independant perspective.

I think there's some confusion as to why your account was banned, and i think the confusion is caused because 2 different forum rules were broken, causing a permaban on your second account.

The first rule: The forum does not allow plagiarism. This rule caused your acocunt Audi-BMW1988 to be banned
The second rule:  ban evasion, causing your account avtandil to be banned

The first rule is self-explanatory. The second rule (ban evasion) states that if one of your accounts gets banned, it's not actually the acount that's banned, but it's you (as a person) that gets banned. Ofcourse, the result is that the account commiting the offence gets banned right away, but you should consider all your other (existing AND future) accounts to be banned aswell. Once one of your accounts is banned, you cannot use any of your other accounts to continue posting. The only exclusion from this rule is that you can use one (1) account to make one (1) thread in meta for the sole purpose of discussing your ban. You are not allowed to use any other account to create any other threads. Doing so is a bannable offence.

I do agree that it's very sad for you that you didn't realise the second rule existed and continued posting with your second account, and now you've lost a lot of time as a result. That being said: there is no automatic way of finding ban evasion, so all ban evasion rule breakers are found manually. This means that the time between comitting the actual ban evasion and being banned for ban evasion can be very long.


Thank you for understanding, I always use one account, it was banned and I realized the mistake and started everything from scratch, and now I survived from the forum and the new account does not make sense to pump because the yoke is also banned, it is sad to realize that I just survived from the forum
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January 24, 2019, 09:15:12 AM
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it’s not forbidden to have a couple of accounts, I always had one, he was banned and only then created a new one and didn’t break with a new account, as I wrote earlier, there is a cleaning of competitors for the subscription, my message was deleted immediately and it was deleted, I make a screenshot  this message
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January 24, 2019, 09:22:10 AM
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it’s not forbidden to have a couple of accounts, I always had one, he was banned and only then created a new one and didn’t break with a new account

You do not need to break a rule in the new account. Opening another account after getting banned is an offense, it's ban evasion as explained above. Once a forum member is banned, you (the user) is not allowed to post on the forum anymore on any account, except an appeal thread.
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January 24, 2019, 09:26:51 AM
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sad to realize that my only stupid mistake was that I didn’t read the rules I was banned, people read the rules for not reading bans, the new rule didn’t read the ban

Now I am an unnecessary user and I can not be here?  please answer
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January 24, 2019, 09:28:27 AM
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Now I am an unnecessary user and I can not be here?  please answer
Exactly. Please go away.

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January 24, 2019, 09:33:52 AM
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Now I am an unnecessary user and I can not be here?  please answer
Exactly. Please go away.

why are you so strict with me? I didn’t do anything bad to anyone, there was an old mistake but I understood it and started everything in a new way, and you chase me from the forum as if I eat your food
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January 24, 2019, 09:38:13 AM
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why are you so strict with me? I didn’t do anything bad to anyone, there was an old mistake but I understood it and started everything in a new way, and you chase me from the forum as if I eat your food
You did something wrong. First commited plagirism which is ilegal or unethical in every single country and now broke the “no ban evasion” rule.

And you want to keep doing it. You can’t “understand” and keep breaking the rules because it is convenient for you. Accept your punishment and leave.

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January 24, 2019, 09:41:14 AM
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why are you so strict with me? I didn’t do anything bad to anyone, there was an old mistake but I understood it and started everything in a new way, and you chase me from the forum as if I eat your food
You did something wrong. First commited plagirism which is ilegal or unethical in every single country and now broke the “no ban evasion” rule.

And you want to keep doing it. Accept your punishment and leave.



you are glad for one reason that I will not be able to carry your subscription campaign and you will get more, but people are mistaken and when you are mistaken, the last one who laughs laughs

I did not break on the new account, why I was allowed a new registration, in the rules there is no such broke go away and do not come again, if it is, then show
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January 24, 2019, 09:45:59 AM
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I did not break on the new account, why I was allowed a new registration, in the rules there is no such broke go away and do not come again, if it is, then show
Goodbye.

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.

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January 24, 2019, 09:54:33 AM
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I did not break on the new account, why I was allowed a new registration, in the rules there is no such broke go away and do not come again, if it is, then show
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25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.

I did not shy away and started everything from scratch, and now they have forbidden me because they saw a competitor in me

my account was blocked and I created a new one and did not break it, there are many who create a new one after the ban and do nothing to them, I am sure that you have more than one account
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January 24, 2019, 09:59:33 AM
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I did not shy away and started everything from scratch, and now they have forbidden me because they saw a competitor in me

my account was blocked and I created a new one and did not break it, there are many who create a new one after the ban and do nothing to them, I am sure that you have more than one account

What part of 'ban evasion' do you honestly not understand?

Also, a competitor? How are you even a competitor? Whether they ban you or not, your presence has little to no effect here on Bitcointalk. Anyone is allowed to have multiple accounts here on Bitcointalk depending on their intentions, as long as the person isn't banned. TryNinja is not banned, hence he is allowed to have multiple accounts here as long as it isn't for malicious purposes(though I'm not saying that he indeed has multiple accounts).

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