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June 07, 2025, 12:07:04 AM
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West Indies players usually participate in county cricket leagues in various countries, especially if they have a national team game, but they do not deregister from playing county leagues. Nicholas Pooran is a very good performing player but he cannot perform well for the national team. Suddenly their target is the IPL, Big Bash, EPL, because they are offered huge amounts of money there, which is not an opportunity for the national team of the country. Therefore, most of the West Indies players do not give any importance to the play of their national team, due to which the West Indies national team has now become like Zimbabwe. The West Indies national team will face more disasters in the future.
Yes West Indies cricketers mostly choose to play in big T20 leagues like IPL over representing their country because these leagues offer much more money and better career opportunities. This is big problem for West Indies cricket especially since national team games mostly conflict with league schedules. Players might feel that playing in these global leagues gives them more exposure and financial security than playing for their national team especially when team is not doing well. This situation has weakened West Indies national team making it hard for them to build strong team and they have suffered in international cricket as result. If they do not make big changes West Indies team will keep struggling to field their best players.

 
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June 07, 2025, 12:35:59 AM
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Players might feel that playing in these global leagues gives them more exposure and financial security than playing for their national team especially when team is not doing well. This situation has weakened West Indies national team making it hard for them to build strong team and they have suffered in international cricket as result. If they do not make big changes West Indies team will keep struggling to field their best players.

The players of the West Indies team have very low salaries in their local currency, due to which they take external services to fulfill their desires and needs. Domestically they do not get good respect, due to which they perform in IPL and various leagues for more money. The players of the West Indies team are very experienced and powerful, they perform well in unique games and have aggressive batting and bowling performance.
But internationally they cannot perform well in their own country because of their lack of practice, they are failing to perform well for money. If the financial crisis continues like this, they will not be able to produce experienced players in the future, as a result of which they are losing consecutively to the England team, thus their performance will continue to deteriorate.
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June 07, 2025, 05:39:32 AM
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How come Pooran is not traveling with the squad and in the playing XI? Looks like windies board still didn't fix all the issue and dick measuring contest is in progress with the players. Thought all issue were solved during last t-20 WC.

Buttler scoring juicy 90 odd runs must sting GT lol, they missed him badly in playoffs.

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June 07, 2025, 06:48:25 AM
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Yes West Indies cricketers mostly choose to play in big T20 leagues like IPL over representing their country because these leagues offer much more money and better career opportunities. This is big problem for West Indies cricket especially since national team games mostly conflict with league schedules. Players might feel that playing in these global leagues gives them more exposure and financial security than playing for their national team especially when team is not doing well. This situation has weakened West Indies national team making it hard for them to build strong team and they have suffered in international cricket as result. If they do not make big changes West Indies team will keep struggling to field their best players.


There are leagues going on all over the year and players have to choose between national duty vs the money rich leagues. Due to this reason cricket of many countries has been affected including the West Indies cricket. Once a strong team, West Indies now a days struggle to qualify for ICC events and losing matches to teams like Ireland. In T20I West Indies might survive but in test and ODI it's difficult to survive if you are not playing with your main players since that's the proper cricket. The West Indies board need to make a decision asap on whether to improve the team performance or continue giving NOC to players for leagues. 

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June 07, 2025, 08:03:02 AM
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We will see West Indies as weak as in every previous match because they have been losing matches against England many times, due to which we should not take much interest from West Indies in the match. West Indies were whitewashed in this series, before that T20 series was also played in which West Indies were whitewashed and they were seen playing badly in the match. Will we see any change in West Indies in this match or not? I think that West Indies will play something good after playing so badly and will weaken England by improving a little in the match. If this happens, then we can consider West Indies as a great team and we will also see them succeed.

England gave 188 runs target and that was too much asking for the West Indies team. I thought West Indies team bowled well in this match but it was Jos Buttler who made 96 runs and was the main hurdle between the WI win. Other batsmen including Ben Duckett , Harry Brook and Tom Banton , all failed but it was a one match batting show by Buttler. I think he deserved to be the player of the match but it was awarded to Liam Dawson who took four wickets. England bowlers bowled to the line and length and won this game for the team. 

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June 07, 2025, 09:51:45 AM
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We will see West Indies as weak as in every previous match because they have been losing matches against England many times, due to which we should not take much interest from West Indies in the match. West Indies were whitewashed in this series, before that T20 series was also played in which West Indies were whitewashed and they were seen playing badly in the match. Will we see any change in West Indies in this match or not? I think that West Indies will play something good after playing so badly and will weaken England by improving a little in the match. If this happens, then we can consider West Indies as a great team and we will also see them succeed.

England gave 188 runs target and that was too much asking for the West Indies team. I thought West Indies team bowled well in this match but it was Jos Buttler who made 96 runs and was the main hurdle between the WI win. Other batsmen including Ben Duckett , Harry Brook and Tom Banton , all failed but it was a one match batting show by Buttler. I think he deserved to be the player of the match but it was awarded to Liam Dawson who took four wickets. England bowlers bowled to the line and length and won this game for the team. 

The England team has not only won T20 but also ODI matches consecutively, the England team is performing very well this season. However, the England team was able to perform well in both batting and bowling, the opposing team West Indies was much ahead in their batting performance. Although England won this match by 21 runs, the game was very competitive.
The attacking top order batsmen of the West Indies team could not perform well, as a result, the West Indies team was forced to lose this match. If the top batsmen could not perform well, then the West Indies team players faced a lot of pressure at the last minute.
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June 07, 2025, 11:30:58 AM
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Buttler scoring juicy 90 odd runs must sting GT lol, they missed him badly in playoffs.
Didn't watch that match, but I am not surprised at all. The dude was consistently great along with Sai and Gill throughout the season and I knew right away that GT's chances of winning would drop without him playing.

Their overdependence on their top order was always a problem and MI took full advantage of it in their playoff game.

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June 07, 2025, 02:13:00 PM
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After being whitewashed in the ODI series, West Indies will face England in the first match of the T20 series. The West Indies team has performed very badly in the ODI series due to which they have lost badly in every match against England, but if they can do something good in the T20 series, then maybe it will bring something positive for them. And if they lose badly in the T20 series against England too, then it cannot be expected to be good for them at all. The great batting of the England team in today's first T20 match seems that they may be able to score 200 runs till the last over. Jos Buttler is still batting brilliantly, if he stays for a long time, he will definitely score a century. The batting performance of the England team is very good at the moment, they have lost only three wickets, but the West Indies team will have to bowl more strongly at the moment, and England will have to open under pressure, otherwise they will face a huge target.
England are a very strong team on the English soil and West Indies are not a big opponent for England, so naturally it was assumed that we would not see a very good performance from West Indies in this full series and that has been the case in the ODI series. Although England won 100% against West Indies in the ODI series, I don't know why I feel that West Indies can do well in the T20 series because West Indies have good quality T20 specialist bowlers and all-rounders who can bring the team victory. And West Indies have another good reputation that they can bat well up to the 10th wicket, considering all these things, I can imagine that West Indies may come back strongly in the T20 series.

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June 07, 2025, 03:20:04 PM
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England are a very strong team on the English soil and West Indies are not a big opponent for England, so naturally it was assumed that we would not see a very good performance from West Indies in this full series and that has been the case in the ODI series. Although England won 100% against West Indies in the ODI series, I don't know why I feel that West Indies can do well in the T20 series because West Indies have good quality T20 specialist bowlers and all-rounders who can bring the team victory. And West Indies have another good reputation that they can bat well up to the 10th wicket, considering all these things, I can imagine that West Indies may come back strongly in the T20 series.

They had players such as Andre Russell, Sherfane Rutherford, Rovman Powell, Evin Lewis and Jason Holder in the playing XI and still lost to England. And the Poms were missing several of their key players. Jos Buttler missed his century, but not before butchering the West Indian bowlers all around the ground. BTW, Gudakesh Motie stood out among the West Indian bowlers. He returned amazing figures of 4-0-21-0, when others went for more than 10 runs per over.   

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Buttler scoring juicy 90 odd runs must sting GT lol, they missed him badly in playoffs.
Didn't watch that match, but I am not surprised at all. The dude was consistently great along with Sai and Gill throughout the season and I knew right away that GT's chances of winning would drop without him playing.

Their overdependence on their top order was always a problem and MI took full advantage of it in their playoff game.
Yeah, GT management and Nehra ji must be thinking about what IF?

Their top 3 had a good run through out the season which resulted untested middle order and it ended up costing them spot in the finals. Think out of form Rashid did some damage as well.

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They had players such as Andre Russell, Sherfane Rutherford, Rovman Powell, Evin Lewis and Jason Holder in the playing XI and still lost to England. And the Poms were missing several of their key players. Jos Buttler missed his century, but not before butchering the West Indian bowlers all around the ground.
All of them are hard hitter batsmen, not responsible. I rarely see responsibilities in the batting style of West Indies players. All those hard heater batsmen couldn't play well in the first match. This is why WI lost the match yesterday. 189 runs target isn't very difficult for this squad of West Indies. England is favourite to win the next two matches. But WI performance will be unpredictable in the upcoming matches. They might win one match in T20 series.

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After being whitewashed in the ODI series, West Indies will face England in the first match of the T20 series. The West Indies team has performed very badly in the ODI series due to which they have lost badly in every match against England, but if they can do something good in the T20 series, then maybe it will bring something positive for them. And if they lose badly in the T20 series against England too, then it cannot be expected to be good for them at all. The great batting of the England team in today's first T20 match seems that they may be able to score 200 runs till the last over. Jos Buttler is still batting brilliantly, if he stays for a long time, he will definitely score a century. The batting performance of the England team is very good at the moment, they have lost only three wickets, but the West Indies team will have to bowl more strongly at the moment, and England will have to open under pressure, otherwise they will face a huge target.
England are a very strong team on the English soil and West Indies are not a big opponent for England, so naturally it was assumed that we would not see a very good performance from West Indies in this full series and that has been the case in the ODI series. Although England won 100% against West Indies in the ODI series, I don't know why I feel that West Indies can do well in the T20 series because West Indies have good quality T20 specialist bowlers and all-rounders who can bring the team victory. And West Indies have another good reputation that they can bat well up to the 10th wicket, considering all these things, I can imagine that West Indies may come back strongly in the T20 series.
West Indies team has a good performance record against big teams in the past. That is why everyone has a different view of the team. If T20 format is played, the West Indies batting is capable of winning against any equation. That is why there are many spectators among the fans who support the West Indies. West Indies batsmen did very badly in the last match. Despite having so many wickets, the team was not able to take the match to any competitive level. England has defeated the West Indies team in 4 consecutive matches in the two series, so it will definitely be difficult to win against England.

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June 07, 2025, 06:10:38 PM
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As I predicted previously, English women team white washed the T20 tournament as well against West Indies women. Every of those win were through huge difference.
Today the ODI game was shortened to 21 overs due to weather, it was more like a T20 than an ODI, West Indies women batting first created a small target of 107 runs which English women chased with style in 11th over with only 1 wicket loss.
West Indies women is a team which is ranked even lower than Bangladesh and Pakistan and it were of no match to England to start with. They are not even participating in the ODI world cup being held from September this year.
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Yes West Indies cricketers mostly choose to play in big T20 leagues like IPL over representing their country because these leagues offer much more money and better career opportunities. This is big problem for West Indies cricket especially since national team games mostly conflict with league schedules. Players might feel that playing in these global leagues gives them more exposure and financial security than playing for their national team especially when team is not doing well. This situation has weakened West Indies national team making it hard for them to build strong team and they have suffered in international cricket as result. If they do not make big changes West Indies team will keep struggling to field their best players.

For a long time, we have been seeing the poor performance of West Indies.
After the retirement of players like Pollar and Chris Gayle, the performance of West Indies started to weaken gradually.
Another reason for the decline in the performance of West Indies is that the players are not very interested in international matches.
Most of the players are interested in performing in various franchise leagues.

The West Indies board has to be stricter. If any player shows reluctance to perform in the national team jersey, strict action should be taken against him Undecided
Otherwise, the performance of the West Indies team will gradually deteriorate

West Indies has lost every match of the ODI series. Lost by a big margin. West Indies failed to win the first T20 match as well.
England team gave a big target. West Indies had a chance to win the target of 189 runs. West Indies lost this match by 21 runs as well

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Yes West Indies cricketers mostly choose to play in big T20 leagues like IPL over representing their country because these leagues offer much more money and better career opportunities. This is big problem for West Indies cricket especially since national team games mostly conflict with league schedules. Players might feel that playing in these global leagues gives them more exposure and financial security than playing for their national team especially when team is not doing well. This situation has weakened West Indies national team making it hard for them to build strong team and they have suffered in international cricket as result. If they do not make big changes West Indies team will keep struggling to field their best players.
England has proved its worth in the first game of T20 against West Indies in their homeground with a tremendous performance by their bowlers and batsmen. England opened the innings with Jamie Smith and Ben Duckett but it was an unfortunate as the first wicket was lost at just 16 runs but circumstances changed as the game further progressed. From the start it was looking a hard task for England to score good runs but after the enterence of Jos Buttler, 96 runs were added in the score otherwise England would have wiped out at below 150 runs so thanks to Jos Buttler for his great performance. After successfull 6 wickets wipe out West Indies stopped England at a target of 189 runs. West Indies suffered high pressure from the start when their openers were bowled out at just 33 runs. West Indies batsmen lost wickets after short intervals giving a plus point to England to get victory. West Indies was closer to the target but England's bowler Liam Dawson got 4 key wickets which made England win this game by 21 runs.

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West Indies team has a good performance record against big teams in the past. That is why everyone has a different view of the team. If T20 format is played, the West Indies batting is capable of winning against any equation. That is why there are many spectators among the fans who support the West Indies. West Indies batsmen did very badly in the last match. Despite having so many wickets, the team was not able to take the match to any competitive level. England has defeated the West Indies team in 4 consecutive matches in the two series, so it will definitely be difficult to win against England.
West Indies always showed a disappointing performance and at the end they lost and they did this many times and lost many tournaments. England showcased Fantastic performance and they won a thrilling game against West Indies. England playing strategy is good and performance is always good.

The 1st match was played at Riverside Ground and England won toss and elected to batting first. West indies did not play good and England set a record total runs for 188 but West indies did not chased record runs 167 and lost the game. Jos Buttler was top performer for England team in batting and scored 96 in 59 balls and hitted 6 fours and 4 sixs.

Congratulations to West indies team to win game and you deserve this win and best wishes to whitewash Bangladesh team in 3rr game.











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West Indies team has a good performance record against big teams in the past. That is why everyone has a different view of the team. If T20 format is played, the West Indies batting is capable of winning against any equation. That is why there are many spectators among the fans who support the West Indies. West Indies batsmen did very badly in the last match. Despite having so many wickets, the team was not able to take the match to any competitive level. England has defeated the West Indies team in 4 consecutive matches in the two series, so it will definitely be difficult to win against England.

There are two phases of West Indian cricket. First phase is before the IPL and the other franchise T20 leagues. And the second phase after that. As you can notice yourselves, the performance of the national team declined severely after the T20 leagues started. Most of the times, their main players are not available. And even when they are available, they are not performing at 100%. This maybe due to the fact that West Indies is not a "national" team. It is actually an amalgam of around two dozen independent countries and territories.

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There are two phases of West Indian cricket. First phase is before the IPL and the other franchise T20 leagues. And the second phase after that. As you can notice yourselves, the performance of the national team declined severely after the T20 leagues started. Most of the times, their main players are not available. And even when they are available, they are not performing at 100%. This maybe due to the fact that West Indies is not a "national" team. It is actually an amalgam of around two dozen independent countries and territories.

Same West Indies team was very strong team till 90s when players like Lara were part of the team. I think it's T20 leagues that has destroyed the West Indies cricket. I already wrote in my previous post that for ODI series England recalled it's players from IPL but West Indies cricket allowed its players to play IPL. It's not only players that are interested in leagues like IPL but West Indies board is also giving go-ahead to its players for leagues. If this approach continues then West Indies might go further down in performance.

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Today will be the second match of the T20 series between England vs West Indies. In the first match, England batted first and collected 188 runs in the allotted overs, while West Indies scored 167 runs and England won by 21 runs. Anyway West Indies lost the ODI series badly, but I thought West Indies could do well in the T20 series, but West Indies did not do well in the first T20I as well. Now today is a very important match for West Indies, because if West Indies lose today then West Indies will also lose the T20 series. Anyway, based on the performance, I will put the England team ahead, I think England will win today too. If West Indies want to win then they need to improve both their batting and bowling lines.

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Another reason for the decline in the performance of West Indies is that the players are not very interested in international matches.
Most of the players are interested in performing in various franchise leagues.

I guess that must be due to money and where they are getting more value for their time, franchise leagues pay well and tournament duration tends to be month or two.

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The West Indies board has to be stricter. If any player shows reluctance to perform in the national team jersey, strict action should be taken against him Undecided
Otherwise, the performance of the West Indies team will gradually deteriorate

If players are forced to play for nation, they will probably just retire and continue playing leagues.

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