270 trust.7 trust.3 trust compared to minus 128 trust

[Thule]

Ok since you claim your trust system is so great and is showing real input please THEYMOS explain to me this


270 positiv trust for TMAN
Proofen of extorition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0
Merit Cycle and many other staff

7 Trust for the pharmacist
Proofen of posting racist comments for signature campaign profit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17808231#msg17808231
Merit cycle and many more staff

3 Trust for Lauda
Proofen of extorition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0
Merit Cycle and MANY MANY other staff

-128 (yesterday -158) for thule
Proofen of trying to buy an account for service thread which rules on this forum clearly allowed (without informing about discourage) and a mod confirming to be allowed to buy an account
Dare to raise his voice against this negative tagg which resulted into a massiv negativ feedback



Please someone explain to me which one of these actions of these four people did the least harm to the forum

[suchmoon]

I'm happy to see that you finally came to your senses and ditched the sockpuppet account.

You're showing as -32 for me, which seems quite appropriate.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I thought you were going to take a break from the forum:

I myself said clearly i won't be activ in this forum anymore till this changes
<snip>
I'm out of this board

Or have you decided to keep rehashing the same arguments all of the recent trolls have been repeating over and over, and which consistently fall upon deaf ears?  I'm hoping you stick with your original plan and just leave--even if it's only temporary. 

[The Cryptovator]

Showing -128 to me, I was assumed this question will come out about account sell.  @theymos could you now ban account sell on the forum ? Account sell now become more easy by collateral for loan.

[Thule]

I'm happy to see that you finally came to your senses and ditched the sockpuppet account.

You're showing as -32 for me, which seems quite appropriate.

Or have you decided to keep rehashing the same arguments all of the recent trolls have been repeating over and over, and which consistently fall upon deaf ears?  I'm hoping you stick with your original plan and just leave--even if it's only temporary.

I know its hard to confirm which one is the least harmful action out of the four when you where involved in that massiv abuse.

We really understand why you avoid answering that question and try to change the topic

[The Sceptical Chymist]

We really understand why you avoid answering that question and try to change the topic

First of all, who's "we"?

Second, what question are you talking about?  If you're referring to what you addressed in the OP, you were specifically requesting input from Theymos.  Please educate me as to what question I'm supposedly ducking.

[Thule]

So if i asked just theymos why do you reply on this thread if its not about giving your opinion on my question ?
Just shows me you just try again to discredit or change topic which both shows what a poor character you got.

[suchmoon]

So if i asked just theymos why do you reply on this thread if its not about giving your opinion on my question ?
Just shows me you just try again to discredit or change topic which both shows what a poor character you got.

Are you familiar with the Personal Message feature?

Don't post your BS publicly if you don't want other users to reply.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

So if i asked just theymos why do you reply on this thread if its not about giving your opinion on my question ?
<snip>

Valid question, except I missed this right at the end of your post:

Please someone explain to me which one of these actions of these four people did the least harm to the forum

My bad.  So my answer to this would be that everything you mentioned has been brought up so many times and has been met with indifference not only by Theymos but a good part of the community as well.  Your feedback speaks for itself--you earned it.  One of two negs would have been sufficient, but sometimes multiple DT members chime in and reinforce others' feedbacks.

As to why the other members have positive trust, the answer to that is that the community decided they were worthy of it. 

And as far as this:

7 Trust for the pharmacist
Proofen of posting racist comments for signature campaign profit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17808231#msg17808231
Merit cycle and many more staff

I don't know what the bolded part even means.  Are you implying (or outright stating) that I'm a merit abuser?  If that's your claim, it would appear that no one agrees with you since I haven't been tagged by anyone who provided credible evidence of this.  And feel free to take a look at my merit-sending history.  I freely give merits to a wide range of members.  Sure, I've sent merits to members like suchmoon, o_e_l_e_o, marlboroza, and others multiple times--but that's because they make genuinely good posts.  It's not some evil plot or even misusing the merit system.

My connection with the HBW account has been known for a long time now, and what has the community's response been to that?  Nothing.  It was off-color humor done in jest, and I don't even use that account anymore.  It's a non-issue which you trolls keep bringing up constantly, hoping someone will eventually care.  Or maybe you're just power hungry yourself and are resorting to the age-old political tactic of smearing your opponent in an attempt to gain support. 

You might want to take a minute to reflect on exactly how much good you've done for the forum, and compare that result to how much good the members you're attacking have done.  I don't expect you'll do that, so I'll just hope that you really do take a break from the forum (like you said you were going to).

[r1s2g3]

Showing -128 to me, I was assumed this question will come out about account sell.  @theymos could you now ban account sell on the forum ? Account sell now become more easy by collateral for loan.

I am seeing double standard s here, Zoel is negatively trusted ( because account is sold) and the seller is positively trusted.  Ironically lender is fully aware here that "account sales are frowned" still lender sold the account. I guess earlier I used to see account sellers also having negative feedback.

[Thule]

So if i asked just theymos why do you reply on this thread if its not about giving your opinion on my question ?
<snip>

Valid question, except I missed this right at the end of your post:

Please someone explain to me which one of these actions of these four people did the least harm to the forum

My bad.  So my answer to this would be that everything you mentioned has been brought up so many times and has been met with indifference not only by Theymos but a good part of the community as well.  Your feedback speaks for itself--you earned it.  One of two negs would have been sufficient, but sometimes multiple DT members chime in and reinforce others' feedbacks.

As to why the other members have positive trust, the answer to that is that the community decided they were worthy of it.  

And as far as this:

7 Trust for the pharmacist
Proofen of posting racist comments for signature campaign profit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17808231#msg17808231
Merit cycle and many more staff

I don't know what the bolded part even means.  Are you implying (or outright stating) that I'm a merit abuser?  If that's your claim, it would appear that no one agrees with you since I haven't been tagged by anyone who provided credible evidence of this.  And feel free to take a look at my merit-sending history.  I freely give merits to a wide range of members.  Sure, I've sent merits to members like suchmoon, o_e_l_e_o, marlboroza, and others multiple times--but that's because they make genuinely good posts.  It's not some evil plot or even misusing the merit system.

My connection with the HBW account has been known for a long time now, and what has the community's response been to that?  Nothing.  It was off-color humor done in jest, and I don't even use that account anymore.  It's a non-issue which you trolls keep bringing up constantly, hoping someone will eventually care.  Or maybe you're just power hungry yourself and are resorting to the age-old political tactic of smearing your opponent in an attempt to gain support.  

You might want to take a minute to reflect on exactly how much good you've done for the forum, and compare that result to how much good the members you're attacking have done.  I don't expect you'll do that, so I'll just hope that you really do take a break from the forum (like you said you were going to).

No the issue is that you abused the trust system giving me massiv negativ feedback for buying an account for a friend so he can post images on his service thread.I have never been accused of any scamming or anything.
It was you DT members attacking me and making me look like a scammer where i did nothing wrong.
As a forum member i had the obligation to check forum rules if i'm allowed to buy an account which i did.I checked the inofficial forum rules posted by mrep and there it was clearly stated its allowed to buy accounts.There was no mention about it being discouraged.I never read meta before like majority at that time.I even sent a PM to a forum moderator asking for approval if i'm allowed to buy an account.The reply was positiv.And later i receive a negative feedback for trying to buy an account which i checked previously and was allowed to do so.
Not agreeing with the negative feedback you guys bombarded me with negative feedback for the same past action.
It clearly shows the abuse you used.
Only one of you gave me a negative feedback for trying to buy an account but once i didn't agree with the negative feedback all your small group bombarded me with it even it was months later.Wouldn't i argue about the negative feedback you would have never added these feedbacks.The massiv negativ feedback are clearly because of the public arguing and not because of one time try to buy an account.
This clearly shows that you guys gave negative feedback because i started arguaging about it without accepting the reason of getting it.
This means you abused the trust system since you gave me in reality a negative feedback for arguaging and not accepting but commented instead it was because of account selling.
Would it be about account selling why didn't you gave me the negative feedback instantly you saw it?

Its your pathetic actions which made this forum a disaster.


Also what is most pathetic is all the DT members giving me negative feedback but not a single one to the legandary members trying on the same thread to encourage using their escrow when buying accounts.
Of course that Lauda had a good relationship with the escrow guy is just a coincidence as Lauda would surely give him negative feedback for it even he gave a few days before positiv ones.

If you claim trying to buy an account for a friend so he can post an image on his service thread is more harmful than posting these stupid comments than i guess we have a reality issue.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I am seeing double standard s here, Zoel is negatively trusted ( because account is sold) and the seller is positively trusted.  Ironically lender is fully aware here that "account sales are frowned" still lender sold the account. I guess earlier I used to see account sellers also having negative feedback.

You can call it a double standard, but I'd call it reviewing each case individually and not using a cookie-cutter approach to negging account sellers.  I've also written that it was a tough call on that one and I'm not even 100% certain I made the right decision in not tagging grtthegreat.  See this post for my views on it.  In addition, any other DT member (or non-DT for that matter) is free to tag grtthegreat if they want to.  The account buyers I have no problem tagging, since they're using someone else's reputation and rank to do whatever they want with.

[Thule]

'd call it reviewing each case individually and not using a cookie-cutter approach to negging account sellers.

Funny you had no issues tagging the account seller from my thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=299676


There you also didn't tagged the legendary offering his escrow when buying alt accounts.


Seems like a clear double standard

I PM'ed grtthegreat asking him to delete the selling posts, as this is a situation much like the one with iluvbitcoins where I don't think the member is deserving of a neg in the face of a lot of other positive trust.  I explained that I wasn't going to tag him but that other DT members might feel differently.

Did you tried to PM me before giving negativ feedback ?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Did you tried to PM me before giving negativ feedback ?

No, and in fact the first and only time I've done that was with grtthegreat, because I was trying to learn from the mistake I made with iluvbitcoins, where I knew I shouldn't have tagged him but did anyway in spite of his otherwise very trusted reputation. 

As for the other stuff you wrote above, I don't know what escrow you're talking about and if you don't give a clear picture of what you're trying to argue with details and links, don't waste my time making me search for what you're referencing.  In fact, just stop wasting my time in general.  I'm not going to bite the hook anymore.  You earned your red tags--all of them.

[Thule]

Am just proofing how pathetic you are.
Always changing your claims based on your needs.

Haven't you said on that thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102198.0
That you are deleting your buyer/seller negative feedback if it turns out they haven't used the accounts for scamming ?

Maybe you can show me where i have used them for scamming since over a year passed that you didn't removed yours from my account ?


And am talking about the escrow service for account selling which the legandary offered on the thread you tagged me.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=299676



You just proofed you have double standards.
You had no issue tagging a longterm member with zero negative feedback and clearly normaly participating in this forum even without signature campaigns but you clearly have an issue tagging an account seller who knowingly tried to sell something just because he .................


Yeah you just proofed to everyone how legit your decissions are and how accurate you work.

[suchmoon]

Maybe you can show me where i have used them for scamming since over a year passed that you didn't removed yours from my account ?

Please list all accounts that you sold or bought or otherwise had under your control and I'll check if they've been used for scamming.

[Thule]

Maybe you can show me where i have used them for scamming since over a year passed that you didn't removed yours from my account ?

Please list all accounts that you sold or bought or otherwise had under your control and I'll check if they've been used for scamming.

I never have bought one or sold one.
The one i tried to buy turned out to be a scam which can be seen on the reference thread where DT members didn't tagged legendary accounts offering their escrow for buying accounts.
Why ?



Where are now all DT members ?A lender sells knowingly an account and don't even get a single negative feedback ?

HOW PATHETHIC YOU GUYS ARE.
You just proofed yourself that noone needs you.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Haven't you said on that thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102198.0
That you are deleting your buyer/seller negative feedback if it turns out they haven't used the accounts for scamming ?

Maybe you can show me where i have used them for scamming since over a year passed that you didn't removed yours from my account ?

That link isn't to one of my posts there, it's just a link to the thread which I posted multiple times in.  This is what I mean by time-wasting.  Show me the exact quote you're referring to and we'll see how well it matches up to your situation.

And am talking about the escrow service for account selling which the legandary offered on the thread you tagged me.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=299676

Again, this is a link to someone I tagged for selling an account.  What escrow service are you talking about?

You had no issue tagging a longterm member with zero negative feedback and clearly normaly participating in this forum even without signature campaigns but you clearly have an issue tagging an account seller who knowingly tried to sell something just because he

Who are you talking about?  Why do I have to guess who or what it is you're talking about when you write things?  Both you and laracrofth (the user you linked to above) had negative trust before I left any for either of you. 

You're trolling and intentionally trying to get me to waste time jumping through your hoops, and I'm not going to do it anymore.  There's a big difference between everything you've written in this thread and a reasonable concern like the one r1s2g3 raised.  I'm done with you.

[Thule]

That link isn't to one of my posts there, it's just a link to the thread which I posted multiple times in.  This is what I mean by time-wasting.  Show me the exact quote you're referring to and we'll see how well it matches up to your situation.

When I started tagging account sellers in 2016, I always checked their feedback first and if they were extremely trusted, I didn't neg them.  OmegaStarScream was one of those if I recall correctly.  In addition, I've removed negs from account sellers/buyers after some time has passed IF they've shown proof that they've done trustworthy things and haven't been just a scummy account dealer.

Since you haven't removed it and a year passed where did i scammed someone ?

Again, this is a link to someone I tagged for selling an account.  What escrow service are you talking about?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2029011.0;topicseen

Who are you talking about?  Why do I have to guess who or what it is you're talking about when you write things?  Both you and laracrofth (the user you linked to above) had negative trust before I left any for either of you.  

You're trolling and intentionally trying to get me to waste time jumping through your hoops, and I'm not going to do it anymore.  There's a big difference between everything you've written in this thread and a reasonable concern like the one r1s2g3 raised.  I'm done with you.

For what did i had negative trust ?

When I started tagging account sellers in 2016, I always checked their feedback first and if they were extremely trusted, I didn't neg them.  OmegaStarScream was one of those if I recall correctly.  In addition, I've removed negs from account sellers/buyers after some time has passed IF they've shown proof that they've done trustworthy things and haven't been just a scummy account dealer.

So you admit you have double standards depending on reputation ?

[marlboroza]

Merit Cycle

Who is Merit Cycle?

many other staff

Post all other staff here.

Benefit of doubt because of some reasons. Feel free to post your opinion in that thread.

Where are now all DT members ?A lender sells knowingly an account and don't even get a single negative feedback ?

What's this? Some users think they should be tagged, some users think they should not be tagged and I don't see you posting your valuable opinion in that thread.
Do you think they should be tagged?