Alt of DuckDice.io which was tagged for scam

[The Cryptovator]

Seems Duck Dice have tagged from multiple DT members due to open scam accusation long time ago. Just noticed it from gambling section. On the other hand they have created new account yesterday Duck Dice PR and announced a signature campaign. No issue with signature campaign due they have used escrow service from forum.

Issue with website and their main account for open scam accusation which has got tag. So what about new account? It shouldn't be tag since its directly hosted with Duck Dice ? Red tag has given against of website as well, not only to user account.


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[Lauda]

1) Please provide link to old account directly in the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=917361.
2) Notaek is complicit too IMO.
Thanks for pointing this out. I knew something was off when I saw their signature campaign, I just couldn't remember what.
Tagged both. I'm very tired of the 'sweep under the rug' mentality. This might turn into a Betcoin 2.0 situation.

[Quickseller]

I haven’t reviewed the scam accusation closely, however if it can be substantiated and is unresolved, no one should be advertising for them and anyone in their campaign should be made aware of the situation.

[Lauda]

I haven’t reviewed the scam accusation closely, however if it can be substantiated and is unresolved, no one should be advertising for them and anyone in their campaign should be made aware of the situation.

I believe that was the reason for which the signature campaign thread was created as self-moderated; this is very unusual practice for a signature campaign.

[Avirunes]

1) Please provide link to old account directly in the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=917361.
2) Notaek is complicit too IMO.
Thanks for pointing this out. I knew something was off when I saw their signature campaign, I just couldn't remember what.
Tagged both. I'm very tired of the 'sweep under the rug' mentality. This might turn into a Betcoin 2.0 situation.

I will remove my ratings from notaek's profile and will wait for him to answer here before leaving a new feedback.

I also feel the same. Thanks for pointing out @CoolCryptovator

[The Cryptovator]

1) Please provide link to old account directly in the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=917361.

Edited, just forgot to add link. Thanks for point out. I don't think escrow holder should be tag. Perhaps he wasn't aware about their previous shady activity since it's too old accusation. I think it would be better is he return escrow fund and leave that campaign if he isn't hosted with Duck Dice.

Posting on their campaign thread is useless since they made self moderate thread. So how to prevent now users to join their campaign?

[Lauda]

1) Please provide link to old account directly in the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=917361.

Edited, just forgot to add link. Thanks for point out. I don't think escrow holder should be tag. Perhaps he wasn't aware about their previous shady activity since it's too old accusation. I think it would be better is he return escrow fund and leave that campaign if he isn't hosted with Duck Dice.

He knew; he is "close" with those people AFAIK. It would be very naive to think that the following two are true at the same time:
1) He didn't know.
2) He didn't question why it's a 1 post account and thus didn't find out about it.

[Findingnemo]

Notified about this issue in their signature campaign thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102953.msg49462069#msg49462069

I hope everyone will see it before it got deleted by OP since it is self moderated topic.

[Kelvinid]

I was planning to apply on the campaign since I've rested for awhile and want to be active again in the forum, but I saw that OP was tagged.

May I know if participants will be tagged also?

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For everybody's information, OP is promoting sportsbet.io and their account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832366 is also red tagged by several DT members, including Lauda. So I want to know if it's safe to carry their signature in a signature campaign.

I don't want to get tag so I want to make this things very clear before I proceed with my action.

[Lauda]

May I know if participants will be tagged also?

If it ends up following the Betcoin case, then yes.

For everybody's information, OP is promoting sportsbet.io and their account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832366 is also red tagged by several DT members, including Lauda. So I want to know if it's safe to carry their signature in a signature campaign.

I did not know that; i.e. I forgot about this case. Interesting..

[LoyceV]

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Good catch! I saw the campaign ran by a Newbie, and was happily surprised to see a green trusted user involved as escrow. Well, that didn't last

I also noticed a small army of high ranking users (with 0 earned Merit) that suddenly activated to join this campaign. About half of them were last active on January 13/14, the other half wasn't active for a few months.
I refuse to believe they all by coincidence saw this thread at the same time, so I'm pretty sure many of them are controlled by the same user.

For reference: thread archived.
These users have posted in that thread ("0 Merit earned" means they have sent Merit, if nothing is mentioned they've neither sent nor received Merit):
     1. 2x tiggytomb (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     2. 1x finzyoj (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     3. 1x Rajamuda (BPIP)
     4. 1x Rana590 (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     5. 1x Tungsten-1 (5 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     6. 1x loughlin (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     7. 1x logicgate (BPIP)
     8. 1x bitzizzix (7 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     9. 1x denny27 (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    10. 1x radjie (8 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    11. 1x Ahiaba (8 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    12. 1x steveabrahams (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    13. 1x ibuddy122505 (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    14. 1x Shenzou (21 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    15. 1x Cacingkemi (5 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    16. 1x freedomno1 (24 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    17. 1x Kasabus (9 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    18. 1x traderethereum (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    19. 1x Botnake (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    20. 1x blockman (4 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    21. 1x ankit10 (13 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    22. 1x lienfaye (3 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    23. 1x Hamphser (6 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    24. 1x notaek (8 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    25. 1x btccashacc (BPIP)
    26. 1x Visbay (BPIP)
    27. 1x Faxmate (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    28. 1x Lanatsa (6 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    29. 1x Yaunfitda (7 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    30. 1x Hutalar (BPIP)
    31. 1x PuraPuraBego (28 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    32. 1x Shinpako09 (12 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    33. 1x BitcoinTurk (232 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    34. 1x janggernaut (BPIP)
    35. 1x djselery (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    36. 1x syamster (BPIP)
    37. 1x DeadCoin (3 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    38. 1x okae (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    39. 1x vv181 (16 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    40. 1x yvesp110 (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    41. 1x Duck Dice PR (BPIP)
    42. 1x Jackblack90909 (BPIP)
    43. 1x ReiMomo (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    44. 1x 949miner (BPIP)
    45. 1x Haunebu (20 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    46. 1x kodtycoon (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    47. 1x Matt9301 (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    48. 1x cryptovigi (185 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    49. 1x Heisenberg_Hunter (164 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    50. 1x h0lybyte (11 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    51. 1x Findingnemo (17 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    52. 1x tranthidung (133 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    53. 1x LimLims (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    54. 1x angel55 (19 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    55. 1x Harley29 (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    56. 1x markdario112616 (9 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    57. 1x Bonsaiav (8 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    58. 1x XCANA (21 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    59. 1x Activitycoin (BPIP)
    60. 1x Best Dreams (BPIP)
    61. 1x f150 (7 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    62. 1x tbct_mt2 (40 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    63. 1x Lpim01 (4 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    64. 1x Choyor (5 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    65. 1x dark08 (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    66. 1x jakezyrus (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    67. 1x cydrix (5 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    68. 1x rodskee (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    69. 1x pinoyden (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    70. 1x SushiMonster (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    71. 1x richminded (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)

[traderethereum]

Need opinions...

Good catch! I saw the campaign ran by a Newbie, and was happily surprised to see a green trusted user involved as escrow. Well, that didn't last

I also noticed a small army of high ranking users (with 0 earned Merit) that suddenly activated to join this campaign. About half of them were last active on January 13/14, the other half wasn't active for a few months.
I refuse to believe they all by coincidence saw this thread at the same time, so I'm pretty sure many of them are controlled by the same user.

For reference: thread archived.
These users have posted in that thread ("0 Merit earned" means they have sent Merit, if nothing is mentioned they've neither sent nor received Merit):
     1. 2x tiggytomb (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     2. 1x finzyoj (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     3. 1x Rajamuda (BPIP)
     4. 1x Rana590 (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     5. 1x Tungsten-1 (5 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     6. 1x loughlin (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     7. 1x logicgate (BPIP)
     8. 1x bitzizzix (7 Merit earned) (BPIP)
     9. 1x denny27 (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    10. 1x radjie (8 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    11. 1x Ahiaba (8 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    12. 1x steveabrahams (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    13. 1x ibuddy122505 (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    14. 1x Shenzou (21 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    15. 1x Cacingkemi (5 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    16. 1x freedomno1 (24 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    17. 1x Kasabus (9 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    18. 1x traderethereum (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    19. 1x Botnake (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    20. 1x blockman (4 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    21. 1x ankit10 (13 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    22. 1x lienfaye (3 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    23. 1x Hamphser (6 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    24. 1x notaek (8 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    25. 1x btccashacc (BPIP)
    26. 1x Visbay (BPIP)
    27. 1x Faxmate (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    28. 1x Lanatsa (6 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    29. 1x Yaunfitda (7 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    30. 1x Hutalar (BPIP)
    31. 1x PuraPuraBego (28 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    32. 1x Shinpako09 (12 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    33. 1x BitcoinTurk (232 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    34. 1x janggernaut (BPIP)
    35. 1x djselery (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    36. 1x syamster (BPIP)
    37. 1x DeadCoin (3 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    38. 1x okae (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    39. 1x vv181 (16 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    40. 1x yvesp110 (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    41. 1x Duck Dice PR (BPIP)
    42. 1x Jackblack90909 (BPIP)
    43. 1x ReiMomo (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    44. 1x 949miner (BPIP)
    45. 1x Haunebu (20 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    46. 1x kodtycoon (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    47. 1x Matt9301 (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    48. 1x cryptovigi (185 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    49. 1x Heisenberg_Hunter (164 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    50. 1x h0lybyte (11 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    51. 1x Findingnemo (17 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    52. 1x tranthidung (133 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    53. 1x LimLims (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    54. 1x angel55 (19 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    55. 1x Harley29 (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    56. 1x markdario112616 (9 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    57. 1x Bonsaiav (8 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    58. 1x XCANA (21 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    59. 1x Activitycoin (BPIP)
    60. 1x Best Dreams (BPIP)
    61. 1x f150 (7 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    62. 1x tbct_mt2 (40 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    63. 1x Lpim01 (4 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    64. 1x Choyor (5 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    65. 1x dark08 (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    66. 1x jakezyrus (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    67. 1x cydrix (5 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    68. 1x rodskee (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    69. 1x pinoyden (2 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    70. 1x SushiMonster (0 Merit earned) (BPIP)
    71. 1x richminded (1 Merit earned) (BPIP)

I never knew that before, I already delete everything. I am so sorry because I am late to read the informations. Once again, thank you for remind us all.

[The Cryptovator]

I did not know that; i.e. I forgot about this case. Interesting..

Seems they have explained details about accusation and as far as I know accuser got paid partially. Eventually there is no any response from accuser and he is offline from long time. Those accusation are lately open they are responding as well. If there is proven scam, never mind I will leave campaign and will be happy to tag them. If you have free time you can review that case.

[Kelvinid]

I did not know that; i.e. I forgot about this case. Interesting..

Seems they have explained details about accusation and as far as I know accuser got paid partially.

Then it's partially settled, the scam accusation is still open until fully paid.

Eventually there is no any response from accuser and he is offline from long time.

You cannot expect a reply from  a person whose already offline for a long time, the explanation of sportsbet is more relevant than any other under the situatioin, and if the problem was really resolved, DT members would have remove the tag.

FYI, of the 5 DT who painted Duckdice, 4 of them are still very active, so why is it no one of them remove their rating?

Those accusation are lately open they are responding as well. If there is proven scam, never mind I will leave campaign and will be happy to tag them. If you have free time you can review that case.

We need Lauda's opinion on this.

[markdario112616]

Need opinions...

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Sorry, I wasn't aware about the scam accusation up until I saw the reference early this morning. I dropped (Crossed out) my application as soon as I saw the red trust and read this thread.

[actmyname]

FYI, of the 5 DT who painted Duckdice, 4 of them are still very active, so why is it no one of them remove their rating?

I can't trust a site that can't even ensure fairness of their terms. It's not even about the individual case that was published on-forum but about the entirety of it. I don't know how long the bonus had been running for but the rules were misleading and brutally unfair.

[TheUltraElite]

As a general thumb rule, one should not even attempt to join a campaign which is advertising a site and the site has open scam accusations against them by trustworthy members here. Its understandable that majority of the users here were not here when it happened but at least you should be doing a due diligence and check out which company you are going to advertise before jumping into wearing their signature.

People here are so much more interested in getting a share of the free cash that they forget to do research and a basic checkup. I would not say this if a scam accusation comes up after the campaign has started since that is beyond the scope of diligence prior to joining. But in this case its pretty much known to many older members and within the click of a few buttons for new members who are willing to join.

[Lauda]

I did not know that; i.e. I forgot about this case. Interesting..

Seems they have explained details about accusation and as far as I know accuser got paid partially.

Then it's partially settled, the scam accusation is still open until fully paid.

It was completely settled given that the accuser took a compensation and left.

Eventually there is no any response from accuser and he is offline from long time.

You cannot expect a reply from  a person whose already offline for a long time, the explanation of sportsbet is more relevant than any other under the situatioin, and if the problem was really resolved, DT members would have remove the tag.
FYI, of the 5 DT who painted Duckdice, 4 of them are still very active, so why is it no one of them remove their rating?

In the part of the post that you're quoting he is talking about Sportsbet, not DuckDice IMO. There is zero reason to remove any ratings on DuckDice.

Those accusation are lately open they are responding as well. If there is proven scam, never mind I will leave campaign and will be happy to tag them. If you have free time you can review that case.

We need Lauda's opinion on this.

I've deleted my rating on Sportsbet and added a neutral one.

As a general thumb rule, one should not even attempt to join a campaign which is advertising a site and the site has open scam accusations against them by trustworthy members here. Its understandable that majority of the users here were not here when it happened but at least you should be doing a due diligence and check out which company you are going to advertise before jumping into wearing their signature.

People here are so much more interested in getting a share of the free cash that they forget to do research and a basic checkup. I would not say this if a scam accusation comes up after the campaign has started since that is beyond the scope of diligence prior to joining. But in this case its pretty much known to many older members and within the click of a few buttons for new members who are willing to join.

This.

[The Cryptovator]

To be honest usually we are not bother to research when run a campaign by trusted managers like LoyceV, yahoo62278, Hhampuz , DarkStar_ and other. The problem is about nebiwe campaign management, just few days ago multiple campaign has scamed participant. That's why whenever I see the newbie campaign manager just try to research especially who haven't used escrow. But in that case I have seen used escrow then I simply leave. But during visit Gambling section I found their alt account and check all the feedback's. It was look suspicious to me that's why I open thread. Because may be we can solve the issue by discussing each other.

[lifeOK]

To be honest usually we are not bother to research when run a campaign by trusted managers like LoyceV, yahoo62278, Hhampuz , DarkStar_ and other. The problem is about nebiwe campaign management, just few days ago multiple campaign has scamed participant. That's why whenever I see the newbie campaign manager just try to research especially who haven't used escrow. But in that case I have seen used escrow then I simply leave. But during visit Gambling section I found their alt account and check all the feedback's. It was look suspicious to me that's why I open thread. Because may be we can solve the issue by discussing each other.

Actually, that's point a number of people shown their great enthusiasm over the campaign, nowadays newbie campaign management growing up rapidly and has ended up scam most of cases. People used to to feel safe in case a newbie campaign under reputable escrow service.

[Lauda]

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Because may be we can solve the issue by discussing each other.

It has been resolved: Tag the account, tag notaek. Then maybe(!): Give it some time, warn all participants and eventually tag those that continue to advertise it.

Actually, that's point a number of people shown their great enthusiasm over the campaign, nowadays newbie campaign management growing up rapidly and has ended up scam most of cases. People used to to feel safe in case a newbie campaign under reputable escrow service.

Newbie campaign management = fraudulent campaign management. 

[marlboroza]

FYI, of the 5 DT who painted Duckdice, 4 of them are still very active, so why is it no one of them remove their rating?

Very shady bonus terms and very shady behavior.

They called their player terrorist, they said they will send player's deposit to charity and finally, when pushed by community, they returned money they tried to steal. Read thread in reference.

[The Cryptovator]

Give it some time, warn all participants and eventually tag those that continue to advertise it.

I have temporarily tagged a guy. Din not check red tag of OP and escrow, even never bother to read his previous reply. Peoples withdrawn application and there is already warning by other member but he is applying. I will remove tag when he will come here and remove signature. How fool are peoples even don't read anything, just applying like blind. I have given there a warning post, lets see peoples see or not.

Archived: http://archive.is/Utje6  

Edit:
Deleted tag since user delete application and PM me.

[yahoo62278]

I do not normally share pms but in this situation I think It's acceptable. Duckdice has been planning a signature campaign or at least thinking about it since October 2018. They messaged me(I think in an attempt to gain/buy my trust so I might eventually remove my tag) about managing a campaign for them.





I'm not 100% sure on tagging notaek. He was only guaranteeing participants be paid as an escrow. An argument can be made both ways on why to or why not tag him, on that  I can agree 100%. I would like to see his response to all this before I make a decision on that.

Participants should be given a window of time to remove their signatures before we tag anyone there. Warnings have been sent from a couple of you, So I think 48-72 hours is a fair amount of time for users to log in and read what's going on in the campaigns thread and here.

Good call on finding this @coolcryptovator

[Alone055]

I have temporarily tagged a guy. Din not check red tag of OP and escrow, even never bother to read his previous reply. Peoples withdrawn application and there is already warning by other member but he is applying. I will remove tag when he will come here and remove signature. How fool are peoples even don't read anything, just applying like blind. I have given there a warning post, lets see peoples see or not.

I totally disagree with such behavior by a DT member. Trust system is not to be used like that. You are not supposed to tag a guy who only applies for a signature campaign by wearing their signature without noticing or missing a few things that make the campaign shady or untrustworthy. If you are ready to remove the red tag once they remove the signature, then simply wait for sometime and then tag them if they continue their activities with the signature on.
And besides, how come did you manage to notice a guy in the signature thread not removing the signature and tagged him but you didn't bother to tag the person who agreed to escrow the funds for a campaign that is run by a website which is (probably) a scam? I don't see your tag on notaek's profile, nor marlboroza's, since both of you along with Lauda, yahoo (explained above why he didn't tag notaek, yet) and klaaas have tagged the OP of that signature thread.

[The Cryptovator]

I totally disagree with such behavior by a DT member. Trust system is not to be used like that. You are not supposed to tag a guy who only applies for a signature campaign by wearing their signature without noticing or missing a few things that make the campaign shady or untrustworthy. If you are ready to remove the red tag once they remove the signature, then simply wait for sometime and then tag them if they continue their activities with the signature on.

There is noticed by other member, may be you are missing as well. I tagged him because he didn't read OP tag and his previous replied. That guy delete application and PM me, so tag has been removed.

I don't see your tag on notaek's profile, nor marlboroza's, since both of you along with Lauda, yahoo (explained above why he didn't tag notaek, yet) and klaaas have tagged the OP of that signature thread.

All DT judgment isn't same. He is just holding fund, he isn't on management and he has mentioned on his signature. If still he is agree to work with them then he deserve tag in my opinion. Every DT have different opinion. 

[MadZ]

I do not normally share pms but in this situation I think It's acceptable. Duckdice has been planning a signature campaign or at least thinking about it since October 2018. They messaged me(I think in an attempt to gain/buy my trust so I might eventually remove my tag) about managing a campaign for them.





I'm not 100% sure on tagging notaek. He was only guaranteeing participants be paid as an escrow. An argument can be made both ways on why to or why not tag him, on that  I can agree 100%. I would like to see his response to all this before I make a decision on that.

Participants should be given a window of time to remove their signatures before we tag anyone there. Warnings have been sent from a couple of you, So I think 48-72 hours is a fair amount of time for users to log in and read what's going on in the campaigns thread and here.

Good call on finding this @coolcryptovator

I think it is likely he is doing more than just escrowing the funds. For instance, the thread has the exact same awful font and formatting as notaek's Magnumwallet campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if he at least has access to the Duckdice Pr account.

[The Cryptovator]

I think it is likely he is doing more than just escrowing the funds. For instance, the thread has the exact same awful font and formatting as notaek's Magnumwallet campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if he at least has access to the Duckdice Pr account.

I think your suspicion is right. Both signature is same design. More interesting is MAGNUM WALLET || Signature Campaign was locked. So its not possible copy design without unlock thread.
Probably notaek just create new account to avoid red tag IMO.

Participants should be given a window of time to remove their signatures before we tag anyone there. Warnings have been sent from a couple of you, So I think 48-72 hours is a fair amount of time for users to log in and read what's going on in the campaigns thread and here.

I have mentioned on my warning 72 hours. May be it will deleted by OP due to self moderated thread.

[Findingnemo]

The drama will here continues until notaek comes here and post a reply of what is going on about why did he give access to someone to copy his thread format and escrow funds when there is an unresolved scam accusation about that user.

[notaek]

Hello all,

Regarding the situation, first of all, Stan from DuckDice approached me about escrowing the campaign to my email. After discussing back and forth we came to a decision that they would be managing the campaign and I would just be distributing the funds weekly.

Unfortunately the whole conversation went on via email, and I wasn't aware of their previous open scam accusation (which happened ~2 years ago). It was naive for me to accept them without researching further, which I'm extremely sorry for at this point.

I will be sending back the funds from escrow to DuckDice and make a statement^[1] on their thread regarding my withdrawal of escrow from the campaign.

I know I made a wrong decision here. But it would be nice if the feedback to my profile are restated neutrally with the facts about my nativity, as I'm neither working with DuckDice nor have I "actively" helped them to promote their site (as the current feedback states). I just wanted to guarantee the safety of payments being distributed at the end of the day.

I think it is likely he is doing more than just escrowing the funds. For instance, the thread has the exact same awful font and formatting as notaek's Magnumwallet campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if he at least has access to the Duckdice Pr account.

They have asked me to create a campaign thread on their behalf and send them the template. I accepted their request, provided they credited me for it. That's why it's the same.



Anyway, there's a lot to learn everyday and this surely opened my eyes. Feel free to ask me any questions regarding this situation or something I might have missed that needs an explanation.

~notaek




[1] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102953.msg49475807#msg49475807

[Findingnemo]

~snip~

I hope this will end up removing those two negative trust.As an escrow you need to analyse about someone before supporting them and having their money.

I hope your apologize will get accepted here.

[Heisenberg_Hunter]

That was certainly the first bad judgement from me trying to endorse an already proven scam site. I just don't throw my hat into everything I see or rather I don't wear a signature quite often. What made me to fall in the trap was,

[1] I have used duckdice website once last year and have played games. I have withdrawn a small amount to my personal wallet.

[2] I had already been part of notaek signature campaigns who seemed to be trustworthy in choosing his campaigns or services. Though he didn't manage the campaign on behalf, but I felt escrowing the funds were more than enough.

Even the ICO's I promote through my signature space have been personally verified and has been proven trustworthy to invest on various review platforms. I would be really careful when I choose a signature since I don't stick to one board which people commonly do here. I post in varied number of boards ranging from Tech discussion to Altcoin Discussion. Hence my signature would be seen by  large amount of forum population. Exposing ourselves to a larger population should make us more rigour towards our judgement. Though I didn't write any posts but I apologize for wearing the signature.

[Avirunes]

Hello all,

Regarding the situation, first of all, Stan from DuckDice approached me about escrowing the campaign to my email. After discussing back and forth we came to a decision that they would be managing the campaign and I would just be distributing the funds weekly.

Unfortunately the whole conversation went on via email, and I wasn't aware of their previous open scam accusation (which happened ~2 years ago). It was naive for me to accept them without researching further, which I'm extremely sorry for at this point.

I will be sending back the funds from escrow to DuckDice and make a statement^[1] on their thread regarding my withdrawal of escrow from the campaign.

I know I made a wrong decision here. But it would be nice if the feedback to my profile are restated neutrally with the facts about my nativity, as I'm neither working with DuckDice nor have I "actively" helped them to promote their site (as the current feedback states). I just wanted to guarantee the safety of payments being distributed at the end of the day.

I think it is likely he is doing more than just escrowing the funds. For instance, the thread has the exact same awful font and formatting as notaek's Magnumwallet campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if he at least has access to the Duckdice Pr account.

They have asked me to create a campaign thread on their behalf and send them the template. I accepted their request, provided they credited me for it. That's why it's the same.



Anyway, there's a lot to learn everyday and this surely opened my eyes. Feel free to ask me any questions regarding this situation or something I might have missed that needs an explanation.

~notaek




[1] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102953.msg49475807#msg49475807

Can you provide screenshots of email chat so that we can verify your statement. I was waiting for your answer regarding this matter before providing a new feedback but it would help others to review their rating that they already left.

[Quickseller]

Hello all,

Regarding the situation, first of all, Stan from DuckDice approached me about escrowing the campaign to my email. After discussing back and forth we came to a decision that they would be managing the campaign and I would just be distributing the funds weekly.

Unfortunately the whole conversation went on via email, and I wasn't aware of their previous open scam accusation (which happened ~2 years ago). It was naive for me to accept them without researching further, which I'm extremely sorry for at this point.

I will be sending back the funds from escrow to DuckDice and make a statement^[1] on their thread regarding my withdrawal of escrow from the campaign.

I know I made a wrong decision here. But it would be nice if the feedback to my profile are restated neutrally with the facts about my nativity, as I'm neither working with DuckDice nor have I "actively" helped them to promote their site (as the current feedback states). I just wanted to guarantee the safety of payments being distributed at the end of the day.

I think it is likely he is doing more than just escrowing the funds. For instance, the thread has the exact same awful font and formatting as notaek's Magnumwallet campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if he at least has access to the Duckdice Pr account.

They have asked me to create a campaign thread on their behalf and send them the template. I accepted their request, provided they credited me for it. That's why it's the same.



Anyway, there's a lot to learn everyday and this surely opened my eyes. Feel free to ask me any questions regarding this situation or something I might have missed that needs an explanation.

~notaek




[1] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102953.msg49475807#msg49475807

You are going to send the money back? What about the people that joined with the understanding that payment would be guaranteed by you?

[LoyceV]

You are going to send the money back? What about the people that joined with the understanding that payment would be guaranteed by you?

I don't think anybody had been accepted yet.

[Kelvinid]

You are going to send the money back? What about the people that joined with the understanding that payment would be guaranteed by you?

I don't think anybody had been accepted yet.

Almost all of the applicants have removed their signature, and there is no attempt of new application now.
What will happen to notaek's red trust then,,,

Will the DT remove the negative trust now that he appeared here, explain and withdraw as escrow?

[bittraffic]

You are going to send the money back? What about the people that joined with the understanding that payment would be guaranteed by you?

I don't think anybody had been accepted yet.

Almost all of the applicants have removed their signature, and there is no attempt of new application now.
What will happen to notaek's red trust then,,,

Will the DT remove the negative trust now that he appeared here, explain and withdraw as escrow?

I was about to join but seeing there was a red tag to OP which led me here. Its really hard to tell whether the DuckDice.io is going straight with their business when they haven't resolved the previous scam accusation. The accuser also hasn't logged for a very long time that we can ask whether he is paid fully. Notaek I think is in good faith but someone ask for the screenshot to prove, might as well provide it.

[Quickseller]

You are going to send the money back? What about the people that joined with the understanding that payment would be guaranteed by you?

I don't think anybody had been accepted yet.

Almost all of the applicants have removed their signature, and there is no attempt of new application now.
What will happen to notaek's red trust then,,,

As long as zero people in participating in the dig campaign this should be fine. If there is anyone participating he needs to hold sufficient funds to pay each person.

[Findingnemo]

As long as zero people in participating in the dig campaign this should be fine. If there is anyone participating he needs to hold sufficient funds to pay each person.

But if someone keep wearing their signature even after the warning signal given by DT members then they are going to get tagged as per this comment.

Participants should be given a window of time to remove their signatures before we tag anyone there. Warnings have been sent from a couple of you, So I think 48-72 hours is a fair amount of time for users to log in and read what's going on in the campaigns thread and here.

[Quickseller]

As long as zero people in participating in the dig campaign this should be fine. If there is anyone participating he needs to hold sufficient funds to pay each person.

But if someone keep wearing their signature even after the warning signal given by DT members then they are going to get tagged as per this comment.

Participants should be given a window of time to remove their signatures before we tag anyone there. Warnings have been sent from a couple of you, So I think 48-72 hours is a fair amount of time for users to log in and read what's going on in the campaigns thread and here.

I don’t know what that has to do with anything...