Why I think Copper Membership is a must buy

[Soha 1]

There's one only reason you might be Reading this and that is you browsing through this forum. Throughout the years, you may have used it ocassionaly, seldomly, or daily, for such varying reasons as dealing, informing yourself, or for a chit-chat.


There's an expense I can certainly imagine to running such forum, so anything can help the owner so as to keep this as mantained and active as posible. Not taking into account how draining energy it is.

Worth mentioning all benefits it provides for newcomers or even any user in general. Surpassing your newcomer status to member by allowing yourself to post pictures, less time-span limitations, among others.

Not intended to advertised or anything, didn't know where to post really, just wanted to give  aheads up on what I thought about it.


So, help yourself, and help out the community

[LoyceV]

There's an expense I can certainly imagine to running such forum

The forum doesn't need money:

Money is not a problem.

[OgNasty]

There's an expense I can certainly imagine to running such forum

The forum doesn't need money:

Money is not a problem.

If for some reason folks did want to donate, they could do so by sending any amount of BTC to the address at the top of this page: https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html

[Privcy Foundation]

There's an expense I can certainly imagine to running such forum

The forum doesn't need money:

Money is not a problem.

Well he still sells ad space, so its plain greed.

[OgNasty]

There's an expense I can certainly imagine to running such forum

The forum doesn't need money:

Money is not a problem.

Well he still sells ad space, so its plain greed.

I think moderators who get paid for helping keep this place clean would disagree with that statement.  It is quite an achievement what was built here and theymos using advertiser funds to help make this community better well into the future doesn't seem like greed to me.

[mikeywith]

theymos is a human being, he needs money just like anybody else (unless he is satoshi ,) i suppose the forum is his full-time job, who would work for free? would you ?  also you are enjoying the forum for free, i suppose you have no idea how much it cost to keep this shit up and running, so if we as members don't pay for it , who will ? somebody has to fund the forum so why are you whining? go ahead make a similar forum ads-free and invite it us, we will leave theymos alone here.

[LTU_btc]

Forum earn more than enough money by selling ad slots and any kind of donations are not really needed. They also have huge number of Bitcoins in reserves. If you want just support forum with your money, you can click "Donate" button at the top of the page.
Once I considered wheter I need to buy Copper Membership or no. I decided not to buy it. I know that quite many high ranked members have purchased it without any reason. Maybe they bought just to look a bit exceptionally. But in general, it's worth to buy it just if you are low ranked member who want to bypass some restrictions.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Forum earn more than enough money by selling ad slots and any kind of donations are not really needed. They also have hugenumber of Bitcoins in reserves.

And if Theymos himself says that the forum isn't in need of any more funds, there's no way I'm going to donate.  As much as I'm grateful for bitcointalk being here, there's no use giving someone else your money when they don't need it and you've got no idea how it would be spent anyway.  

As far as the copper membership goes, it's a good tollgate for members who want to begin signature campaigns as soon as they join bitcointalk and that's about it, though having some of the other restrictions lifted definitely makes life easier here.  If you're above Newbie rank, I'm not sure why you'd buy one.  I don't see it as any sort of status symbol, just proof that you're willing to throw money away on a title that doesn't give you any benefits you don't already have.  Quickseller was one of the first non-noobs I'd noticed who'd bought a copper membership, and to this day I have no idea why he did that.

I think moderators who get paid for helping keep this place clean would disagree with that statement.  It is quite an achievement what was built here and theymos using advertiser funds to help make this community better well into the future doesn't seem like greed to me.

I was under the impression that mods didn't make much money for their efforts.  I've never heard anyone mention the pay rate (nor do I expect to, as it's none of my business), but in any case I don't think it's a huge expense for the forum.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit:

I didn't say moderators were a huge expense to the forum.  I said they get paid and that they don't think theymos is greedy.  The latter is an assumption on my part, but I believe it is an accurate one.

I wasn't disagreeing with you; I don't think Theymos is greedy either.  I'm actually curious as to how much mods get paid, but I don't expect anyone to answer that, nor am I even asking the question.  I've always suspected it wasn't much and probably got that notion from something someone wrote a long time ago.

[OgNasty]

I think moderators who get paid for helping keep this place clean would disagree with that statement.  It is quite an achievement what was built here and theymos using advertiser funds to help make this community better well into the future doesn't seem like greed to me.

I was under the impression that mods didn't make much money for their efforts.  I've never heard anyone mention the pay rate (nor do I expect to, as it's none of my business), but in any case I don't think it's a huge expense for the forum.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

I didn't say moderators were a huge expense to the forum.  I said they get paid and that I believe they don't think theymos is greedy.

[33bitcoin]

I think moderators who get paid for helping keep this place clean would disagree with that statement.  It is quite an achievement what was built here and theymos using advertiser funds to help make this community better well into the future doesn't seem like greed to me.

I was under the impression that mods didn't make much money for their efforts.  I've never heard anyone mention the pay rate (nor do I expect to, as it's none of my business), but in any case I don't think it's a huge expense for the forum.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

I didn't say moderators were a huge expense to the forum.  I said they get paid and that I believe they don't think theymos is greedy.

He is probably financially set and has millions upon millions.  You have to be wary of those that seek power though.  Even though this is just an internet forum people love to have control over something.  Reddit moderators that don't get paid love to have that small bit of power of controlling the narrative.  Even  people on the Default Trust group get off on having power over others.

Theymos may not be like this but just saying it is a possibility.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Even  people on the Default Trust group get off on having power over others.

Theymos may not be like this but just saying it is a possibility.

This is a bit off-topic, but that "DT power" is something that tends to get very exaggerated in the minds of those who aren't on DT.  If I don't agree with someone--or they lay into me with a barrage of insults or what have you--I can't just leave them a neg for doing that, which is why I haven't tagged trolls like cryptohunter, digaran, and all the other ones who've attacked me.  If they've done something untrustworthy on top of that, then tagging them is definitely indicated.  Other than that, it's more of a responsibility than some intoxicating feeling of power, and ultimately all the power means is that a DT member's feedback carries more weight than a non-DT member's.

I never got the impression that Theymos was a power-tripper.  He mostly stays silent and lets the forum work things out on its own, and he only makes small (but sometimes significant) changes here and there.  That certainly doesn't meet my mental picture of what a power hungry person looks like.  If that were the case, I'd expect to see a lot more censorship and more of his presence at the very least. 

[mikeywith]

This is a bit off-topic, but that "DT power" is something that tends to get very exaggerated in the minds of those who aren't on DT. 

it's true, i only understood this after being put on DT, honestly it's good to know that your feedback are actually being "read" and not sitting in the dark, but it puts a lot of pressure on you, i started to think 10 times before tagging someone, simply because i feel that my feedback could be a life-changing for someone, i was more flexible then, the responsibility is not something one would enjoy most.

[Privcy Foundation]

This is a bit off-topic, but that "DT power" is something that tends to get very exaggerated in the minds of those who aren't on DT. 

it's true, i only understood this after being put on DT, honestly it's good to know that your feedback are actually being "read" and not sitting in the dark, but it puts a lot of pressure on you, i started to think 10 times before tagging someone, simply because i feel that my feedback could be a life-changing for someone, i was more flexible then, the responsibility is not something one would enjoy most.

A red mark on a internet forum is life changing? get a grip

[mikeywith]

A red mark on a internet forum is life changing? get a grip

Yup, some people keep building their accounts for years , trade with that account full time, and once they get tagged, nobody would want to trade with them. unlike you some people do make a living on the internet rather than wasting their time.

oh you got 3 of those, maybe you would do better in explaining the effects of "red marks" on one's profile, but wait, yours is a newbie, 0 effort spent on it, so i don't expect you to understand the point.

[Privcy Foundation]

A red mark on a internet forum is life changing? get a grip

Yup, some people keep building their accounts for years , trade with that account full time, and once they get tagged, nobody would want to trade with them. unlike you some people do make a living on the internet rather than wasting their time.

If someone is relying on this forum for income they have made some serious mistakes in life.  Also if it was such a big deal they can buy a hero/legendary account for like 100-200 bucks.  As long as your not retarded you won't get caught.

[mikeywith]

As long as your not retarded you won't get caught.

but you got caught ?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

A red mark on a internet forum is life changing? get a grip

Easy for you to say.  Then you end up on DT, giving out red trust and start getting PMs like this:

I have two children, should I finance
I will not repeat it
I beg your remove my trust for negative. I will not repeat it
I have no work other than in the forums
I am sorry
Thank you

hello sir, I'm sorry if my post is not good, but I think I will improve the quality of my post and I hope to remove redtrust in my account. because I created a very long account and this account for my work and support my family because my child is still small. so I hope redtrust in my account can be removed. thanks sir

....and so on.  Sure, these people could be totally lying but I don't doubt for a second that in some cases a red trust means a great deal when the consequence is that they get kicked out of whatever campaign they're in. 

[Privcy Foundation]

^ Ah, the classic "sir", anytime I see that I assume it's a 3rd worlder from Nigeria or somewhere of the ilk

[mikeywith]

^ Ah, the classic "sir", anytime I see that I assume it's a 3rd worlder from Nigeria or somewhere of the ilk

The word sir in our 3rd world countries stands for respect , also not everybody from Nigeria or a 3rd world country is a liar or a scam. you are a 1st worlder i take it, yet you run "fake bounty signature" and have a trust page painted in red.

again this is going off-topic , just thought of doing a favor by getting you out of the miserable mindset of yours. 

[Soha 1]

^ Ah, the classic "sir", anytime I see that I assume it's a 3rd worlder from Nigeria or somewhere of the ilk

Why are you even on this forum if you think of it that way?

Just curious..