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March 01, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
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Depends on regulations whether they can invest in bitcoins or not though if it has been agreed upon by the higher-ups, they can find some way to buy and hodl bitcoins. Banks would be able to do this, government would have a bit of a hard time to. I don't think either is likely to publicize it if they do since the taxpayers might worry about such investments.
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March 04, 2019, 07:49:31 AM
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It’s quite possible , there are lots of of them that kicked against the idea of Bitcoin and I believe that these ones might investing in it secretly.

By the way there is no way you can tell who is investing in crypto currency and who is not , unless they decide to be open about it. I know one of my friends that told me Bitcoin is scam and later I found out that he was even buying and storing bitcoins and ethereum. That’s why I don’t trust anyone, they can deceive you and do something else.
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March 04, 2019, 10:24:40 AM
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It’s quite possible , there are lots of of them that kicked against the idea of Bitcoin and I believe that these ones might investing in it secretly.

By the way there is no way you can tell who is investing in crypto currency and who is not , unless they decide to be open about it. I know one of my friends that told me Bitcoin is scam and later I found out that he was even buying and storing bitcoins and ethereum. That’s why I don’t trust anyone, they can deceive you and do something else

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You should also take into account that people may not be willing to tell the world (or just you specifically) about their investments and not only about the ones in cryptocurrencies (which is actually a good idea overall to keep your mouth shut about your wealth). So your friend might have had exactly that in mind (read, he was not deliberately trying to confuse you). In this way, you may have to act more subtle (or be closer to your buddies) if you want to find out their real attitude toward crypto



As they say, silence is the sound of money talking (and money making, for the record)

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March 04, 2019, 10:42:40 AM
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it was no longer in thought, it had become a reality for a long time. Large and small financial enterprises are still holding quite a lot of BTC and different coins. They believe that the value of crypto will be better in the near future.
Some black power organizations are holding a lot of BTC and it is controlling the crypto market.

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March 04, 2019, 10:48:31 AM
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have you ever asked if some companies are seriously investing in Cryptos and still not talking about it?
They way crypto platform for Institutional client is been developed by the day is become an eye opener that there is serious interest
by companies but I guess anonymity is prefered

Huobi Launches a trading platform for institution https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/huobi-crypto-exchange-to-launch-institutional-trading-to-a-limited-group/

So do you think companies like NASDAQ is good for the market https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-27/nasdaq-is-said-to-pursue-bitcoin-futures-despite-plunging-prices

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NASDAQ companies are really good for the crypto market. Our market is really in need of real businesses and creating real products to connect with Blockchain and create a great era in the future.
Besides, when they enter the crypto market, the market will be diluted and have certain changes. Whales will lose quite a bit of power because businesses' capital is quite high.
The value of altcoins also grew strongly because of the growth of market capitalization and daily trading volume.

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March 04, 2019, 10:56:05 AM
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Depends on regulations whether they can invest in bitcoins or not though if it has been agreed upon by the higher-ups, they can find some way to buy and hodl bitcoins.
The higher-ups are literally the people controlling the lower strata. Its not them who need the regulation. Rather they impose regulation on the lower strata. So they are very much exempted from the same. You can be sure that they will have their share of crypto by the time it becomes more mainstream.

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Banks would be able to do this, government would have a bit of a hard time to. I don't think either is likely to publicize it if they do since the taxpayers might worry about such investments.
They are least bothered about taxpayers money. If they know that bitcoin is going to be a future in the economy they will stock it up and manipulate the market to drop the price and thus buy more at low price. People need to realize this soon before they run out of ammo to buy.

 
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March 04, 2019, 11:35:36 AM
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we can track how much whales are buying bitcoins and holding in their cold storage wallets https://twitter.com/whale_alert
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March 04, 2019, 12:00:18 PM
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I don't think so that big companies are secretly investing in bitcoins, may be some big individuals are doing it.
Due to it's instability bitcoin is considered as risky investment, and that's why companies/institutions don't hold it
Global adoption of bitcoin is needed if we want big companies to hold or use it.
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March 04, 2019, 03:02:11 PM
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Yes of course We can't really tell whether they are investing to Cryptocurrency but still we can't know who is investing to some Currency. That's why there's a possibility that they also invested in some currencies and really have a great deal of making more profit in their invested currencies just like a normal person like us.
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March 04, 2019, 03:10:00 PM
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Yes. Its not a secret that they are even manipulating the market right now. Who else have the money to buy a lot of BTC and dump after it reaches its peak?

JPMorgan and the blackbox are just two of the finance institution that had been discussing cryptocurrency on the news, its not just them that is into it but those forex brokers are trading BTC.

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March 04, 2019, 03:44:18 PM
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Of course there are many companies involved in the market, in fact, many have entered the world of ICOs, I do not blame them, due to the advancement of technology, they do not want to be left behind, many times, money is needed to make improvements and new projects, the bank may offer a credit system but with high interest, it may be cheaper to do a project that guarantees the goals in a quick period of time to obtain the funds.

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March 04, 2019, 04:15:38 PM
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Yes. Its not a secret that they are even manipulating the market right now. Who else have the money to buy a lot of BTC and dump after it reaches its peak?

JPMorgan and the blackbox are just two of the finance institution that had been discussing cryptocurrency on the news, its not just them that is into it but those forex brokers are trading BTC.
That's a big names that can attract more businesses to play inside this market, after seeing opportunities, who knows who's or what company or institutions that are working well dealing with cryptocurrency, we just need to trace and see how things will works for us, it can't be a secret for
a long time, it will be revealed to promote more and to attract new players.

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March 04, 2019, 04:40:52 PM
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have you ever asked if some companies are seriously investing in Cryptos and still not talking about it?
They way crypto platform for Institutional client is been developed by the day is become an eye opener that there is serious interest
by companies but I guess anonymity is prefered

Huobi Launches a trading platform for institution https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/huobi-crypto-exchange-to-launch-institutional-trading-to-a-limited-group/

So do you think companies like NASDAQ is good for the market https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-27/nasdaq-is-said-to-pursue-bitcoin-futures-despite-plunging-prices

SO do you think Bitcoin will be the future all sometimes fade away?

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Cryptocurrency is becoming more popular that even famous people are investing in cryptocurrenc, that is why i think there are a lot of businesses have started to investing in cryptocurrency because they can earn more money here without paying any tax.
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March 05, 2019, 03:19:45 AM
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it was no longer in thought, it had become a reality for a long time. Large and small financial enterprises are still holding quite a lot of BTC and different coins. They believe that the value of crypto will be better in the near future.
Some black power organizations are holding a lot of BTC and it is controlling the crypto market.
n the crypto business one of the most reliable techniques is HODL because it proves to be profitable as long as it has very large capital. Without that the level of profit in bitcoin investments is very limited, but long-term HODL is very profitable.

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March 05, 2019, 03:23:58 AM
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Oh believe me that if I get hired in any company and in any position or role, I would have a cup of coffee with my boss or my seniors then share them my experiences in Bitcoin. It is just gonna be up to them if those experiences would be applicable in the state of the company. I mean everyone has access to it and no such legalities are needed to invest in Bitcoin. It's just gonna be one of those why not questions.
Lol, before you go to the extent of discussing such a thing with your boss you have to be sure of the level of your relationship with them. If not,. It might be understood in the wrong way and might even lead you to problem. And I don’t think Bitcoin is something you should be open about in your work place.

If you’re making money from cryptocurrency, keep it to yourself and not go around telling everyone. I’ve seen people that got themselves into trouble by doing that.
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March 05, 2019, 03:28:14 AM
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for me now it's also very good to hold more bitcoin, because now the price of bitcoin is also still cheap, so you can also wait for a higher price increase than the current price increase, so you will also get a better profit.
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March 05, 2019, 04:07:06 AM
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for me now it's also very good to hold more bitcoin, because now the price of bitcoin is also still cheap, so you can also wait for a higher price increase than the current price increase, so you will also get a better profit.
becarefull if decided to buy bitcoin at this moment, we have to fully understand the market condition.is it correct time to buy bitcoin and other cryptocurrency or not.cause at this time market very dinamic and price could suddenly changes.

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March 05, 2019, 04:35:39 AM
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I think there is, considering some of the core influences that are indeed influential and investing in crypto might do that, because they also have a lot of experts in that field so maximizing action is necessary with little risk. This is only my personal opinion about holding cryptocurrency in secret and some individuals also often hold secrets.

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March 05, 2019, 04:39:04 AM
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for me now it's also very good to hold more bitcoin, because now the price of bitcoin is also still cheap, so you can also wait for a higher price increase than the current price increase, so you will also get a better profit.
becarefull if decided to buy bitcoin at this moment, we have to fully understand the market condition.is it correct time to buy bitcoin and other cryptocurrency or not.cause at this time market very dinamic and price could suddenly changes.

Yes.  The BTC price has already suddenly changed, and it is currently down a bit more than 80% from its December 2017 peak, which means that it is a good time for buying BTC.

Of course, any prudent BTC buying strategy would include preparations to buy more, just in case the price goes down more.

In other words, you don't want to be sitting around fearing for sudden BTC "changes" down, when there has already been a sudden change of more than 81% down.

Reference to other cryptos is another story, they do not have the same fundamentals as bitcoin, so they should not be treated the same, and that is why the question of this thread is about whether institutions are secretly buying HODLing BTC... surely some of them are secretly buying and HODLing BTC, but the vast majority of them are likely very similarly skittish as the population as a whole with low rates of investment into BTC out of fear of the unknown and an unwillingness to educate themselves about it. Therefore, the more educated (smarter) money players are going to be buying and accumulating at these prices, and why should they tell anyone, unless they have to?

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March 08, 2019, 03:22:29 PM
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Cryptocurrency is becoming more popular that even famous people are investing in cryptocurrenc, that is why i think there are a lot of businesses have started to investing in cryptocurrency because they can earn more money here without paying any tax.
How would a person earn more money by just investing into crypto? They need to sell at one time and buy back if they wish.

If the government is not lenient enough they will get taxed on capital gains and there is nothing new in that. Not paying taxes for capital gains is punishable. Even though we think and talk about crypto making our transactions anonymous and untrackable the government are ready to tax us for gains and we have to pay them.

The thing is not same for institutions buying crypto. They literally control the government and they will want to remain rich even after the poor start accumulating bitcoin - by buying more themselves.

 
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