Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal

[Swofty]

I am sure, Ronnie will step up and do what is right. Well atleast he will do it. He knows that I already prove everything.

I hope he will respond soonest.

Albert

[Developerx11]

I am sure, Ronnie will step up and do what is right. Well atleast he will do it. He knows that I already prove everything.

I hope he will respond soonest.

Albert

By curiosity, you said that this money will change your family life. What was in your head when you deposited 129 bitcoin to gamble?

[Developerx11]

I have asked the user many times to provide a signed message from the address he sent the bitcoin from, each time he avoided to answer my questions; however I am totally against what Cloudbet is doing right now.

Following the case on askgamblers for more than 3 weeks I have noticed changes in his behaviour, if you have seen his last post he asks to receive at least 150 btc to this address:

Code:

12jgLb­2hL­Rbt­BdU­axj­s4F­Lku­A98­FKdkzz7

Why is he not asking to receive back from an address he did the deposit from?

Here are his deposits: https://imgur.com/a/uq8IkzH

Also I want to make clear that I deposit over 129 bitcoin to cloudbet and I think you can at least send thst amount back to me before you identify check is over. Is that too much to ask Ronnie? I would like to official ask on ask gamblers for you to send back the amount I deposit. 129 bitcoin. The remainder we can wait for identity check. These are my savings and I need my coin.

He gambled his savings and how he is acting proves that he is not desperete.


Not my business, I am watching closely hot and cold wallets of Cloudbet, this ammount is extremly high for them to pay but they have to.

some parts of this story are weird

[Swofty]

No updates at all. On email, on AskGamblers and here too no answers.

Ronnie, please do the right thing. And just resolve this and lets move on. This is the most stressful month and in going i experience in my life. Please just end this case and stop dragging delaying it. Thank you

Albert

[JollyGood]

These are huge amounts of BTC to deposit.

Just goes to show Cloudbet were happy to accept the deposits without asking questions but when they had make payouts they pulled the KYC and "under investigation" card.

I think I will give it a few hours more then will add Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature.

[JollyGood]

Just goes to show Cloudbet were happy to accept the deposits without asking questions but when they had make payouts they pulled the KYC and "under investigation" card.

Yes, that is exactly their fraud scheme as explained here Cloudbet scam money owed?

I think I will give it a few hours more then will add Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature.

I think you adding Fraudbet to your Scam Alert signature will break their neck!

Thank you for the link game-protect, it is good to see more and more people coming together to expose Cloudbet as selective scammers: https://game-protect.com/cloudbet-scam/

Cloudbet is now added to my Scam Alert signature

[aioc]

Just goes to show Cloudbet were happy to accept the deposits without asking questions but when they had make payouts they pulled the KYC and "under investigation" card.

Yes, that is exactly their fraud scheme as explained here Cloudbet scam money owed?

I think I will give it a few hours more then will add Cloudbet to my Scam Alert signature.

I think you adding Fraudbet to your Scam Alert signature will break their neck!

Thank you for the link game-protect, it is good to see more and more people coming together to expose Cloudbet as selective scammers: https://game-protect.com/cloudbet-scam/

Cloudbet is now added to my Scam Alert signature

Glad that you did the guy lost a big amount and he tries everything to recover it, I bet this is not an isolated case whatever the case we should not question about his deposit, he won it and he deserves to get his winnings or people might think if you win big, you are not going to get your earnings

[FrueGreads]

@Swofty

Hello Swofty. The user stomachgrowls, made a post on my Sports books Ranking thread, informing me of your problems with Cloudbet.

You can read it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.msg49657797#msg49657797

And here is my reply to him:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.msg49659379#msg49659379

Like I've explained there, please feel free to vote on my thread (either for Cloudbet, or for any other bookie you are familiar with).

It could help raise awareness to your problem, and it could help other users as well.

My thread is completely user generated, so I do my best not to pick sides. If you choose to vote there, I will just collect the vote, and link this Thread to mine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.0).

[JollyGood]

Glad that you did the guy lost a big amount and he tries everything to recover it, I bet this is not an isolated case whatever the case we should not question about his deposit, he won it and he deserves to get his winnings or people might think if you win big, you are not going to get your earnings

Cloudbet deserved to be added to my Scam Alert signature.

I absolutely agree with you. The fact remains that he won and deserves to get his winnings regardless of his reasons to deposit the quantity of BTC he decided he wanted to gamble.

This certainly is not an isolated case because at least 3 people have come forward with funds totaling over 335.2 BTC frozen "while investigations take place".

Jolly just a clarification... Swofty is the user due 330 bitcoin. My claim with Cloudbet is for 3.5 bitcoin. Young American user is due 1.7 bitcoins I believe.

[Swofty]

Thanks FrueGreads. I will just wait for there respond. Yes I just hope they will pay me and just move on and be happy.

Albert

[FrueGreads]

Thanks FrueGreads. I will just wait for there respond. Yes I just hope they will pay me and just move on and be happy.

Albert

Ok, it will always be your decision. I just decided to let you know, because you probably didn't knew the thread. Also, please keep in mind that all votes there can be changed with time. So even if you decided to leave a Scam Alert there (vote with 0), you could always change your vote later, when things get solved.

[mikeywith]

Apologies for getting to the thread late, I've been at a conference this week.

so is this a 1 person company? nobody else is there to respond to clients?

Bazinga442 - There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided. That's about as detailed as I can be without disclosing private information about the account in question unfortunately.

How many of them have access to account?

exactly my thought !

Again I just want my 150 btc back and I will be happy.

just don't , you should have hired a lawyer from day 1 , by accepting only the initial deposit, you are somehow weakening your position. 



I have tagged Cloudbet until this issue is resolved.

[sandy-is-fine]

just don't , you should have hired a lawyer from day 1 , by accepting only the initial deposit, you are somehow weakening your position.  



I have tagged Cloudbet until this issue is resolved.

I did not read the entire thread.  Is the OP from the US (I can't tell)?  If so he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on since an illegal "contract" cannot be enforced.  The only thing that might work would be negative reputation pressure. That being said many years ago when it was (sorta) legal in the US this happened all the time dealing with off-shore casinos.  It was always a fight to collect.  We also had "organizations" who were supposed to represent us but rarely did they do any good. Those were the good old days but long gone except if you live in certain states.

As for the OP without knowing all the details and seeing all the docs and hearing both sides it's impossible to know what really is going and make a judgement other than he possibly lost a lot of coin. If

[JollyGood]

Hey Sandy,

The player won and is trying to get his withdrawal. The player has already sent in all the required documentation that was asked for by cloudbet and does not live in the United States.

You mentioned he probably lost a lot? You should read the full story before commenting. You can see above he is waiting on a 330 bitcoin payout. He also already withdrew 145 bitcoins  

I would advise you the three people that Cloudbet scammed 335.2 BTC out of to follow the advice I gave in a previous post to start legal proceedings.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106313.msg49649808#msg49649808

[mdayonliner]

Thanks FrueGreads. I will just wait for there respond. Yes I just hope they will pay me and just move on and be happy.

Albert

Still you are waiting for their response? How long you will? There are a lot of people are telling you to take legal aid. If you want to wait more time then it's up to you however I would suggest you to hear some of the people here who really do not have any hidden agenda to suggest you what to do and what not to do.

You really need to take legal aid.

PS: Still you have not posted the txs and also a signed message? Can you at-least explain the reason of not to?

Thanks.

== By the way I wonder where are all these DTs except Lauda and marlboroza? Thanks  Lauda and marlboroza for taking part in the conversation however where are the rest? I do not see them engaging in the conversation. Is there any hidden agenda? I also see people are still endorsing cloudbet even a global moderator. Why are the DTs so silent here?

[Swofty]

The reason im not posting the sign message? I would do it IF cloudbet tell me to do that. Do you know what they needed? Only the documents. WHICH I GAVE it right away to them. And to the ownership issue. THEY KNOW already too since they respond to it into AskGamblers if you check into it. I posted my deposit. My withdrawal here already. Now I am waiting for there responds. And I hope its a new respond not the ownership not the investigation thing. Because they got all the informations. They know that im the only owner that could access it and they respond on it. So yeah im waiting for there respond.

To tell you the truth im not gonna respond any users here because I know I have proven all already. AND i dont want to give any information that would be USE to someone else and then Cloudbet will have another excuse to drag delay it.

Now you know. Dont worry I can provide ANYTHING. IF they will ask it.


Albert

[mdayonliner]

Now you know. Dont worry I can provide ANYTHING. IF they will ask it.

Think of these scenario:
1. They will not ask you about it
2. They will keep making excuses of investigating
3. They keep buying time until they pack up the business - declare bankrupt  

PS: Can we ask cloudbet to sing a message that they have the fund to pay 330BTC?

[mindrust]

If cloud bet don't have the funds to pay such big amounts, why did they let people to bet as high as this? I mean shouldn't they have a max bet restriction in the first place?

I know many casinos put a limit on your max. bets just to be able to cover the winnings of those lucky people but if cloudbet removed or didn't put it, then they have to pay that money and if they can't... things do not look very bright for them.

[mdayonliner]

If cloud bet don't have the funds to pay such big amounts, why did they let people to bet as high as this? I mean shouldn't they have a max bet restriction in the first place?

I know many casinos put a limit on your max. bets just to be able to cover the winnings of those lucky people but if cloudbet removed or didn't put it, then they have to pay that money and if they can't... things do not look very bright for them.

Well I guess it's time for cloudbet to sign a message with an address which is holding more than 330BTC. In fact honestly speaking it should be really few times larger than the amount claimed here to see if they have the funds to cover the winnings of their customers.

Some thing made me surprised: I saw other day some of the DTs red tag but I can not see them now. Why did they remove them? Why are they so nice to couldbet?



I remember other day I seen tags from actmyname and Coolcryptovator but today they are not there.

[JollyGood]

The reason im not posting the sign message? I would do it IF cloudbet tell me to do that. Do you know what they needed? Only the documents. WHICH I GAVE it right away to them. And to the ownership issue. THEY KNOW already too since they respond to it into AskGamblers if you check into it. I posted my deposit. My withdrawal here already. Now I am waiting for there responds. And I hope its a new respond not the ownership not the investigation thing. Because they got all the informations. They know that im the only owner that could access it and they respond on it. So yeah im waiting for there respond.

To tell you the truth im not gonna respond any users here because I know I have proven all already. AND i dont want to give any information that would be USE to someone else and then Cloudbet will have another excuse to drag delay it.

Now you know. Dont worry I can provide ANYTHING. IF they will ask it.


Albert

Do not do anything they ask because you have done more than enough.

It is time for you to take action against the Cloudbet scammers.

Report them as mentioned in an earlier post:

STEP 1:
Inform the Curacao e-Gaming Officers. There is a link that states "File a Complaint": https://validator.curacao-egaming.com/validate?domain=www.cloudbet.com&seal_id=72b4de06acee4e455547f8fb68ee27aac984d38c2ac8748c8f26b103ab2fd4b0ff7a047a73882b22a671840fcb7d6827&stamp=eb0b0908c519a5fdad9cec28ca015971

STEP 2:
Use a US based lawyer to make contact with Cloudbet on behalf of the OP to advise them legal action will commence of they do not release rightful funds. The Cloudflare service they use is based in US and has US IP address therefore US law is applicable. This would not cost more than a few hundred dollars to get the ball rolling.

STEP 3:
Use your US lawyer to write to Cloudflare or call them and tell them Cloudbet is selective scamming users and that you are initiating legal action against Cloudbet. Request kindly that CLoudflare stop associating themselves with a scam outfit as it will mean they will get negative publicity as it might seem to some that they endorse such views: +44 20 3514 6970