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For protection, I can't leave names of those I disagree with before I end up on their blacklist.

This kind of behaviour is something we need to fight in here: you disagree with someone, it is your right to do so, you shoudnt be afraid to publicly expose your thoughts because you would get on a "blacklist". This has nothing to do with trust/distrust, this is your freedom to speech, stand up for it.

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February 06, 2019, 10:00:10 PM
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For protection, I can't leave names of those I disagree with before I end up on their blacklist.
This kind of behaviour is something we need to fight in here: you disagree with someone, it is your right to do so, you shoudnt be afraid to publicly expose your thoughts because you would get on a "blacklist". This has nothing to do with trust/distrust, this is your freedom to speech, stand up for it.
I don't know what the context of a "blacklist" here is. Trust list exclusions? If so, then that is just backwards. People should be willing to accept exclusions as it is every user's right to exclude someone else i.e. they should not be afraid of getting excluded. Besides, it's not that uncommon for exclusions to be lifted.

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February 06, 2019, 10:11:38 PM
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I don't hate anyone here but I have to say that I don't like when people talk about other forum member actions but refuse to talk about their own actions https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg49514571#msg49514571.

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February 06, 2019, 10:15:57 PM
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For protection, I can't leave names of those I disagree with before I end up on their blacklist.
This kind of behaviour is something we need to fight in here: you disagree with someone, it is your right to do so, you shoudnt be afraid to publicly expose your thoughts because you would get on a "blacklist". This has nothing to do with trust/distrust, this is your freedom to speech, stand up for it.
Just FYI, I don't endorse leaving anyone a neg because of a differing opinion and I don't think I've ever left one out of sheer anger, politics, or just a disagreement.  I've left a lot of feedback, though and it would take me forever to review it all.  If anyone has a gripe with a red trust I've left, PM me or list it here or whatever.  I'll review it.

The only reason I've excluded OgNasty is to make it a mutual exclusion.  I don't know him personally and don't even necessarily distrust him.  He started this silly feud by excluding me from his trust list and thus getting me booted off DT2 last year.  That made a lot of account sellers do a little dance, and Og has given different stories about why he did this.  I also suspect there's collusion on his and QS's side of the fence which includes Tomatocage and zazarb, whom I've done nothing to. 

This shit is just beginning to annoy me.  What it boils down to is me being loyal to those who supported me on this forum early on (which also includes Vod and people who left me positive trust and encouraged me in 2016 to keep fighting against account sales). 

I have friends in the real world who've done bad things in their life, and I've worked with people professionally who've done horrible things.  Just because I encourage such people in doing good acts (and discouraging the bad stuff) doesn't mean I support any shenanigans.  Having said that, I don't fully understand the scam accusations against either Lauda or OgNasty from a technical perspective.  The extortion episode I've always seen as a sting operation and I haven't looked at what evidence there was in about two years, i.e., I don't remember the details of it.  If there's hard evidence that their intent was to actually extort zeroxal, point me to it.

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February 06, 2019, 10:40:04 PM
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For protection, I can't leave names of those I disagree with before I end up on their blacklist.
This kind of behaviour is something we need to fight in here: you disagree with someone, it is your right to do so, you shoudnt be afraid to publicly expose your thoughts because you would get on a "blacklist". This has nothing to do with trust/distrust, this is your freedom to speech, stand up for it.
Just FYI, I don't endorse leaving anyone a neg because of a differing opinion and I don't think I've ever left one out of sheer anger, politics, or just a disagreement.  I've left a lot of feedback, though and it would take me forever to review it all.  If anyone has a gripe with a red trust I've left, PM me or list it here or whatever.  I'll review it.

The only reason I've excluded OgNasty is to make it a mutual exclusion.  I don't know him personally and don't even necessarily distrust him.  He started this silly feud by excluding me from his trust list and thus getting me booted off DT2 last year.  That made a lot of account sellers do a little dance, and Og has given different stories about why he did this.  I also suspect there's collusion on his and QS's side of the fence which includes Tomatocage and zazarb, whom I've done nothing to. 

This shit is just beginning to annoy me.  What it boils down to is me being loyal to those who supported me on this forum early on (which also includes Vod and people who left me positive trust and encouraged me in 2016 to keep fighting against account sales). 

I have friends in the real world who've done bad things in their life, and I've worked with people professionally who've done horrible things.  Just because I encourage such people in doing good acts (and discouraging the bad stuff) doesn't mean I support any shenanigans.  Having said that, I don't fully understand the scam accusations against either Lauda or OgNasty from a technical perspective.  The extortion episode I've always seen as a sting operation and I haven't looked at what evidence there was in about two years, i.e., I don't remember the details of it.  If there's hard evidence that their intent was to actually extort zeroxal, point me to it.

I have to partially agree with you on Not leaving negative feedback on a person out of retaliation for something they have said about you on the forum. I have been very Vocal about you abusing the trust system in the past with No neg from you. But you have still abused the DT rating in the past Tagging Non-English speaking people I see that as out of Anger of Foreigners and clear abuse.

You literally have Hundreds of Abuse negative feedbacks in your history and you want a person to PM you with a single Abuse? How about you do the Responsible thing as a TRUSTED DT member and you clean up your own Abuse?

P.S. you are Excluded in my trust settings because of your past blatant abusive feedbacks.
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February 06, 2019, 10:47:24 PM
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But you have still abused the DT rating in the past Tagging Non-English speaking people I see that as out of Anger of Foreigners and clear abuse.
Yes, I was doing that before the merit system came into existence, and yes I did indeed criticize shitposters with no command of the language trying to post in the English sections and thereby making them unreadable.  I don't regret any of that, because it was far different pre-merit system.  Those feedbacks should all be gone, because I was asked to remove them when I got put on DT last year and I don't leave trust like that anymore, nor do I even criticize people for their horrible English much, because the merit system sorts all of that out naturally. 

All of those feedbacks were a poor use of the trust system, and I've admitted that.  They were left out of pure frustration at how bad the forum had deteriorated, and there were no tools at the time to deal with it--but now there is, and I'm a lot less frustrated.  And yes, it's easier if someone has a problem with a trust I've left to contact me but I'll see what I can do about reviewing the trust I've left.  Contrary to what you might think, I'm not unapproachable.

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February 06, 2019, 10:53:31 PM
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But you have still abused the DT rating in the past Tagging Non-English speaking people I see that as out of Anger of Foreigners and clear abuse.
Yes, I was doing that before the merit system came into existence, and yes I did indeed criticize shitposters with no command of the language trying to post in the English sections and thereby making them unreadable.  I don't regret any of that, because it was far different pre-merit system.  Those feedbacks should all be gone, because I was asked to remove them when I got put on DT last year and I don't leave trust like that anymore, nor do I even criticize people for their horrible English much, because the merit system sorts all of that out naturally. 

All of those feedbacks were a poor use of the trust system, and I've admitted that.  They were left out of pure frustration at how bad the forum had deteriorated, and there were no tools at the time to deal with it--but now there is, and I'm a lot less frustrated.  And yes, it's easier if someone has a problem with a trust I've left to contact me but I'll see what I can do about reviewing the trust I've left.  Contrary to what you might think, I'm not unapproachable.

You have changed your Ratings for the better NO doubt about it at all but you destroyed so many accounts out of Rage and i witnessed those people begging to have the Neg removed as you and some others just shrugged it off and laughed.

You say your going to look into your past Negs and remove the Abusive ones?

You should get to work you have A LOT of work to do.
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February 06, 2019, 11:04:11 PM
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But you have still abused the DT rating in the past Tagging Non-English speaking people I see that as out of Anger of Foreigners and clear abuse.
Yes, I was doing that before the merit system came into existence, and yes I did indeed criticize shitposters with no command of the language trying to post in the English sections and thereby making them unreadable.  I don't regret any of that, because it was far different pre-merit system.  Those feedbacks should all be gone, because I was asked to remove them when I got put on DT last year and I don't leave trust like that anymore, nor do I even criticize people for their horrible English much, because the merit system sorts all of that out naturally. 

All of those feedbacks were a poor use of the trust system, and I've admitted that.  They were left out of pure frustration at how bad the forum had deteriorated, and there were no tools at the time to deal with it--but now there is, and I'm a lot less frustrated.  And yes, it's easier if someone has a problem with a trust I've left to contact me but I'll see what I can do about reviewing the trust I've left.  Contrary to what you might think, I'm not unapproachable.

You have changed your Ratings for the better NO doubt about it at all but you destroyed so many accounts out of Rage and i witnessed those people begging to have the Neg removed as you and some others just shrugged it off and laughed.

You say your going to look into your past Negs and remove the Abusive ones?

You should get to work you have A LOT of work to do.
Nope he wont remove the past negs he had,because his gang wont allow it,merit abuse doesnt exist,alt accounts are allowed but you see? most of the cases with alts account caught are negged,even if they arent abusing any bounties nor campaigns whatsoever..unluckly people are more aware that this guy wont change the way he runs things here,ThePharmacist has his own rules of tagging so badluck for most of the fellow member here  Undecided
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February 06, 2019, 11:08:03 PM
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you destroyed so many accounts out of Rage and i witnessed those people begging to have the Neg removed as you and some others just shrugged it off and laughed.
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And I still believe there are people who shouldn't be getting paid to spam this forum with nonsense.  I didn't destroy any accounts or any lives by giving anyone a red trust based on how bad their posts were.  That's just nonsense--members who think bitcointalk is a place to come to work by posting garbage like this ought to be banned, never mind given trust (though as I said, I wouldn't leave a neg on them these days):

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I think Bitcoin will have a bright future in the future, Day by day Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency is becoming very famous and profitable around the world so It will play an important role in the future. I also assume that Bitcoin will dominate in the money market very soon.
I think the future of bitcoin will bright. Because it is the mother of cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency is becoming very famous and profitable all over the world.

Yes, I did become hardened to the begging and whining and also to their sense of entitlement and lack of insight into how they were continuing to wreck an awesome forum.  Should I have treated these people with....forgiveness and understanding?  Hell no!  They're the ones who were making the forum much worse for the rest of us. 

As I said, I think I removed all of those trusts based on post quality.  There were some I missed since last year, and I've been contacted here and there and I've continued to remove those.  Even if there were any left, I'm pretty sure those members have either abandoned those accounts or otherwise continued on with the red trust.  It was only a small window of a couple of months that actmyname and I were tagging shitposters, which was November 2017-January 2018 (IIRC), right before the merit system was created.  Those are all old news now anyway, but I will take a look.



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February 06, 2019, 11:23:03 PM
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I decided that I hate all of the DT1 members. Here is my new trust list.  Kiss

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~Mitchell
~vizique
~Blazed
~yogg
~TheNewAnon135246
~greenplastic
~hilariousandco
~EcuaMobi
~Lesbian Cow
~cryptodevil
~suchmoon
~achow101
~owlcatz
~JohnUser
~sapta
~tmfp
~BitcoinPenny
~yahoo62278
~zazarb
~bill gator
~LoyceV
~actmyname
~WhiteManWhite
~The Pharmacist
~LeGaulois
~DarkStar_
~TheFuzzStone
~Jet Cash
~marlboroza
~Lafu
~Gunthar
~Hhampuz
~xtraelv
~krogothmanhattan
~Halab
~theyoungmillionaire
~o_e_l_e_o
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I decided that I hate all of the DT1 members. Here is my new trust list.  Kiss

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~theymos
~HostFat
~gmaxwell
~TECSHARE
~phantastisch
~OgNasty
~SebastianJu
~qwk
~Vod
~mprep
~Dabs
~Cyrus
~monkeynuts
~Welsh
~TMAN
~Lauda
~Mitchell
~vizique
~Blazed
~yogg
~TheNewAnon135246
~greenplastic
~hilariousandco
~EcuaMobi
~Lesbian Cow
~cryptodevil
~suchmoon
~achow101
~owlcatz
~JohnUser
~sapta
~tmfp
~BitcoinPenny
~yahoo62278
~zazarb
~bill gator
~LoyceV
~actmyname
~WhiteManWhite
~The Pharmacist
~LeGaulois
~DarkStar_
~TheFuzzStone
~Jet Cash
~marlboroza
~Lafu
~Gunthar
~Hhampuz
~xtraelv
~krogothmanhattan
~Halab
~theyoungmillionaire
~o_e_l_e_o
~iasenko
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You just fixed the DT system LOL G/j
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February 06, 2019, 11:33:35 PM
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I decided that I hate all of the DT1 members. Here is my new trust list.  Kiss
You just fixed the DT system LOL G/j

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February 06, 2019, 11:42:54 PM
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Nope he wont remove the past negs he had,because his gang wont allow it,merit abuse doesnt exist,alt accounts are allowed but you see? most of the cases with alts account caught are negged,even if they arent abusing any bounties nor campaigns whatsoever..unluckly people are more aware that this guy wont change the way he runs things here,ThePharmacist has his own rules of tagging so badluck for most of the fellow member here  Undecided
You keep repeating this lie across multiple threads.  Not only have I removed tons of feedback I've left for shitposters in 2017-18, but I've also removed negs I've left by account sellers if they've shown themselves to be otherwise trustworthy--you just don't see that, because you don't see the PMs I get, and Lauda (or anyone else) doesn't have any involvement with that whatsoever.  This whole "the gang won't allow it" is nonsense.

I'm curious as to whether you think all of this is some sort of coordinated action, because by your words that seems to be the case.  I imagine that you imagine I'm in regular contact with other DT members as to how to leave feedback and such.  That's not the case.  I did use a suggested trust list from Lauda from waaay back, but I've modified it quite a bit since then.  Lauda is an opinionated little cat, but DT members are free to disagree with one another--and we do, even within this cult thing that formed. 

Hell, I was a member of Jet Cash's Merit Talk chat board, which was all off-forum and all about merit and trust matters, and we usually just chatted about other stuff.  Vod and some others were a part of it, and nobody was really discussing specific members that I recall, and there certainly wasn't a conspiracy.  Stop repeating your line about the gang not allowing stuff, I implore you.  It isn't true.

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February 06, 2019, 11:45:23 PM
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For protection, I can't leave names of those I disagree with before I end up on their blacklist.
This kind of behaviour is something we need to fight in here: you disagree with someone, it is your right to do so, you shoudnt be afraid to publicly expose your thoughts because you would get on a "blacklist". This has nothing to do with trust/distrust, this is your freedom to speech, stand up for it.
JI don't think I've ever left one out of sheer anger, politics, or just a disagreement.  I've left a lot of feedback, PM me whatever.  I'll review it.

The only reason I've excluded OgNasty is to make it a mutual exclusion.  I don't know him personally and don't distrust him.  He started this silly feud by excluding me from his trust list and thus getting me booted off DT2 last year.  That made a lot of account sellers do a little dance, and Og has given different stories about why he did this.  I also suspect there's collusion on his and QS's side of the fence which includes Tomatocage and zazarb, whom I've done nothing to. 

So my red would get remove if i pm you? because it doesnt seems to be violating any of the forum's TOS,give me a break how did you exclude somebody which you arent sure if he is trusted or not by just not knowing him personally? thats a real stupidity sorry for the word but it is,and that last year exclusions should have based because you are outcast from the DT because of the tagging shitposters which doesnt meet theymos' standards thats why you were excluded.,and that exclusion of OgNasty is clearly retaliatory feedback.
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February 06, 2019, 11:52:23 PM
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Nope he wont remove the past negs he had,because his gang wont allow it,merit abuse doesnt exist,alt accounts are allowed but you see? most of the cases with alts account caught are negged,even if they arent abusing any bounties nor campaigns whatsoever..unluckly people are more aware that this guy wont change the way he runs things here,ThePharmacist has his own rules of tagging so badluck for most of the fellow member here  Undecided
You keep repeating this lie across multiple threads.  Not only have I removed tons of feedback I've left for shitposters in 2017-18, but I've also removed negs I've left by account sellers if they've shown themselves to be otherwise trustworthy--you just don't see that, because you don't see the PMs I get, and Lauda (or anyone else) doesn't have any involvement with that whatsoever.  This whole "the gang won't allow it" is nonsense.

I'm curious as to whether you think all of this is some sort of coordinated action, because by your words that seems to be the case.  I imagine that you imagine I'm in regular contact with other DT members as to how to leave feedback and such.  That's not the case.  I did use a suggested trust list from Lauda from waaay back, but I've modified it quite a bit since then.  Lauda is an opinionated little cat, but DT members are free to disagree with one another--and we do, even within this cult thing that formed. 

Hell, I was a member of Jet Cash's Merit Talk chat board, which was all off-forum and all about merit and trust matters, and we usually just chatted about other stuff.  Vod and some others were a part of it, and nobody was really discussing specific members that I recall, and there certainly wasn't a conspiracy.  Stop repeating your line about the gang not allowing stuff, I implore you.  It isn't true.
i will repeat my words whenever,wherever i wanted to because i am eager to open people's eyes to abusers like your gang.Thats creepy that you did use Lauda's trustlist waywwwwwback but you didnt receive red tag like mine? which says conspiring to others by supporting other's trustlist.Your gang should think what if most of the people here hates your shitty asses and theymos noticed it ? are you sure you are going to be in your position for too long?

So my red would get remove if i pm you? because it doesnt seems to be violating any of the forum's TOS,give me a break how did you exclude somebody which you arent sure if he is trusted or not by just not knowing him personally? thats a real stupidity sorry for the word but it is,and that last year exclusions should have based because you are outcast from the DT because of the tagging shitposters which doesnt meet theymos' standards thats why you were excluded.,and that exclusion of OgNasty is clearly retaliatory feedback.
No way,i checked your red and its clearly didnt violate anything..multiple accounts are allowed here,you didnt abuse any bounty but hell yeah there is theparmacist whom tagged your alts because of his standards doesnt meet forum's standards and i pitty users like you...really liked the word ABUSER here.
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February 06, 2019, 11:56:54 PM
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Didnt he get tagged because merit to his alts tho? I would agree with such tag eventually is proven tho and if I understood reference link he self-admitted?

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February 07, 2019, 12:00:44 AM
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I find it pretty funny that this ac2 guy keeps insisting the "Gang" keeps growing... Roll Eyes

I don't even know foxpup myself, as he must be on DT2.

Maybe you could try send him a pm with your issues , as I don't think it's worthy of red trust either? 🤷‍♂️

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February 07, 2019, 12:02:34 AM
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So my red would get remove if i pm you? because it doesnt seems to be violating any of the forum's TOS,
May I remind you that scamming isn't even against the rules here, yet nobody has a problem with them getting tagged.  There's a big difference between the written rules and what the community tolerates, and since you've done nothing that would change my mind about your feedback, it's going to stay right where it is.

and that exclusion of OgNasty is clearly retaliatory feedback.
That's not feedback at all, you twitching fool.  Your feedback on me is an example of retaliatory feedback.

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February 07, 2019, 01:43:27 AM
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I just like that suchmoon starts a thread in reputation.
Then I know it's gonna be like kettle corn drama .
I'm waiting for that cryptohunter character to show up....

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February 07, 2019, 02:13:15 AM
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For protection, I can't leave names of those I disagree with before I end up on their blacklist.
it is your right to do so, you shoudnt be afraid to publicly expose your thoughts this is your freedom to speech, stand up for it.
Just FYI, I don't endorse leaving anyone a neg because of a differing opinion and I don't think I've ever left one out of sheer anger, politics, or just a disagreement. 

@The_Pharmacist, I got no issue with your feedbacks that's why you're included in my trust list.

@Gunthar I'm not scared of getting distrusted, I haven't even left that much of a impacting feedbacks to be distrusted. Still new to the trust systems and I'm taking my time to understand.

About speaking out, isn't that what I'm doing? I choose not to mention names unless it's really necessary. When elephants are fighting as an Ant it's best advice to stay on the sidelines and observe not jumping right into such a fight. That's exactly what I'm doing. When the time is right I'll jump in. For now just like the Ant don't think anyone will take me seriously for what I have to say. I'm still new to the system.

Reading their feedbacks you'll discover they're letting their emotions get the best of them so what I was saying is, I'm trying to stay safe who knows I might anger them then they leave a negative feedback of wrong quoting or not starting my sentence with capital letters  Grin Grin
Anyways the trust system is improving and we'll get there someday.

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