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January 31, 2019, 05:15:52 AM
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this proves he was shitposting.

Relevance?

Also, the person who got negative trust was early blackmailer:
EOAKLAND - blackmailer
this proves he was an early blackmailer

You probably haven't read the thread. And again - relevance? Og neg-trusted this user on accusation of being a purchased account, but after that was disproved he came up with a bunch of slimy excuses to not remove the rating. Nothing to do with shitposting or blackmail. Maybe he needs to revise the feedback again.

All these things make him worthy of tag and also for spamming a scam accusation with fake replies.

You still don't seem to grasp the difference between forum rules and the trust system.

No solid prooves that OgNasty was involved in this as anyone could hamper a persons identity on the telegram ( you could relate much of the ICO scams there). So, there is no conclusion to this case as the person on telegram could just be a troller. And at the same time, Ognasty personally tried to file a police complaint against the scammer.

You probably haven't read the thread. Fun fact: Og neg-trusted another user for making the same assumption that you just made (that he contacted the police). Let's see if he neg-trusts you as well.

I read most of the chat in the screenshots here, it doesn't seem OgNasty is wrong in any way as he is just trying to let a campaign manager know that do not accept a troll in the campaign and on the other hand OG get a reply that he is "buying trusts" very ridiculous opinion.

Og is threatening to contact the person's employer unless he gets his way. I happen to think that's quite shitty.

None of this proves to show that OGnasty has a bad "personality" in his real life and you accused him of wrong being.

Good for you. I see it differently.

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January 31, 2019, 07:55:32 AM
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this proves he was shitposting.

Relevance?

Also, the person who got negative trust was early blackmailer:
EOAKLAND - blackmailer
this proves he was an early blackmailer

You probably haven't read the thread. And again - relevance? Og neg-trusted this user on accusation of being a purchased account, but after that was disproved he came up with a bunch of slimy excuses to not remove the rating. Nothing to do with shitposting or blackmail. Maybe he needs to revise the feedback again.

All these things make him worthy of tag and also for spamming a scam accusation with fake replies.

You still don't seem to grasp the difference between forum rules and the trust system.

No solid prooves that OgNasty was involved in this as anyone could hamper a persons identity on the telegram ( you could relate much of the ICO scams there). So, there is no conclusion to this case as the person on telegram could just be a troller. And at the same time, Ognasty personally tried to file a police complaint against the scammer.

You probably haven't read the thread. Fun fact: Og neg-trusted another user for making the same assumption that you just made (that he contacted the police). Let's see if he neg-trusts you as well.

I read most of the chat in the screenshots here, it doesn't seem OgNasty is wrong in any way as he is just trying to let a campaign manager know that do not accept a troll in the campaign and on the other hand OG get a reply that he is "buying trusts" very ridiculous opinion.

Og is threatening to contact the person's employer unless he gets his way. I happen to think that's quite shitty.

None of this proves to show that OGnasty has a bad "personality" in his real life and you accused him of wrong being.

Good for you. I see it differently.

What gives you or anyone else the right to attempt to harass or intimidate him into compliance with ratings you demand? None of this is any proof of wrong doing, just more simplistic guilt via association and guilt because he didn't immediately acquiesce to your demands for compliance. Like a cop arresting some one for resisting arrest screaming "STOP RESISTING" as you hit them and kneel on his neck as he tries to breathe handcuffed.

It is circular logic. Your authority is your mandate and your mandate is your authority. Do what I say or else.


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January 31, 2019, 08:27:08 AM
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Sorry, but I am not here to go Sherlock Holmes on every one, most of us are here to built a trusted and productive community. Not by harassing them with power but letting them know how to adjust. You just always attempt to hamper once reputation in any way you can when a person tries to get in a positive discussions or in anti-DT mode.

You should see OGnasty and also TECSHARE are here from pretty much time doing good deals, but I am sorry to see them removed from DT. This is totally a wrong judgement if seen by a normal person ( a person not engaged in DT wars) people with high trade on the forum have a low feedback value than other recently upgraded members and also some type of "clique" I need to admit it.

You could just see the effect in meta and reputation board there are large number of users protesting, you should not say all of them are alts its a very childish reason for this large number of accounts!


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January 31, 2019, 08:44:04 AM
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Sorry, but I am not here to go Sherlock Holmes on every one, most of us are here to built a trusted and productive community. Not by harassing them with power but letting them know how to adjust. You just always attempt to hamper once reputation in any way you can when a person tries to get in a positive discussions or in anti-DT mode.

You should see OGnasty and also TECSHARE are here from pretty much time doing good deals, but I am sorry to see them removed from DT. This is totally a wrong judgement if seen by a normal person ( a person not engaged in DT wars) people with high trade on the forum have a low feedback value than other recently upgraded members and also some type of "clique" I need to admit it.

You could just see the effect in meta and reputation board there are large number of users protesting, you should not say all of them are alts its a very childish reason for this large number of accounts!

In the case of members who actually do have a reputation, their only strategy is to attempt to diminish that with accusations and mobbing, because that is all they know how to do. They are used to being able to dismiss every complaint as a scammer or an alt, and in a constant mindset of either you do way I say or you are a scammer or supporting scams, not because I have proof, but because I said so. This is why we need a standard of evidence for rating.


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January 31, 2019, 08:52:27 AM
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You could just see the effect in meta and reputation board there are large number of users protesting, you should not say all of them are alts its a very childish reason for this large number of accounts!
Not only large number of user, you should mention also large numbers of newbie. But I will mention them as spambie. A newbie joined back 2 days, he is suggesting for new rules for DT selection. Is it really not look surprise?

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large number of users protesting

20 out of 2Mil.. yea a real large number buddy

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Not only large number of user, you should mention also large numbers of newbie. But I will mention them as spambie. A newbie joined back 2 days, he is suggesting for new rules for DT selection. Is it really not look surprise?
Yes, this directly points that the newbie accounts are controlled by some one with good knowledge of the forum activity and how the trust system works at the same time they are afraid of the circle to mod them on there real higher level accounts and get red trusted. Its pretty simple logic you should try to understand.


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20 out of 2Mil.. yea a real large number buddy

so you want to say 20Mil-(minus)20 suport your stupid and fake tags?
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large number of users protesting

20 out of 2Mil.. yea a real large number buddy

so you want to say 20Mil-(minus)20 suport your stupid and fake tags?


the more pertinent question is how many support your shit?

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Now now boys. Theymos has made the changes to the DT system to allow us to mould it. Can we try to do this, instead of turning it mouldy before it gets the chance to start sprouting.

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You could just see the effect in meta and reputation board there are large number of users protesting, you should not say all of them are alts its a very childish reason for this large number of accounts!
Not only large number of user, you should mention also large numbers of newbie. But I will mention them as spambie. A newbie joined back 2 days, he is suggesting for new rules for DT selection. Is it really not look surprise?
An created just to get anonymous without risking the original account so that one could reply a specific topic. This is not new especially in meta section where issues raise and concerns were rampant. Well just hoping that one day the forum could adapt a more friendly user interface and not like this where there are many conflicts.

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January 31, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
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large number of users protesting

20 out of 2Mil.. yea a real large number buddy

LOL at this fool. When you want to talk about merit being cycled (which it clearly is) amongst the worse merit cycling offenders then those cyclers complain 2 million is a silly number and even 150k is a  HIGH number of users to consider in this comparison.

Now it suits them 2 million is the number we should work with.

There is a high number of people protesting out of the handful that visit meta or give a shit about the entire thing.

Actually I see nothing other than legitimate gripes backed by FACTS and hard EVIDENCE that the abuse of merit and DT is out of control and getting worse.

The entire board is going to turn into one huge war zone which is totally fine by me. I would rather entire anarchy than a controlled system that is corrupt and dominated by proven liars, trust abusers and worse.

I am just waiting for you tman lauda and owlcatz to pull of a real big extortion scheme or something worse so we can then ask theymos again about how such proven scum bags should be in positions of trust and see if sub optimal seems like a sensible term to use. Then all their supporting buddies can explain that too right before they are blacklisted from positions of trust.

When you see proven liars, who are implicated in all kinds of shady shit giving red trust to persons that have not done anything shady at all just because they would not endure their constant false accusations -- you know the entire system is broken and needs scrapping.




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large number of users protesting

20 out of 2Mil.. yea a real large number buddy
Remove sockpuppets and that number is much smaller  Smiley

The person tagged by OGnasty was a proven scammer and he pointed a good one though. You can see some of the proves here:
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this proves he was shitposting.
Tagged for shitposting?  Shocked

Also, the person who got negative trust was early blackmailer:
EOAKLAND - blackmailer
this proves he was an early blackmailer
What the are you talking about? Eokland was scammed and asked refund. While Eokland was tagged, OG has never tagged scammer.

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None of this proves to show that OGnasty has a bad "personality" in his real life and you accused him of wrong being.

What about this ?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75843.msg30855823#msg30855823


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Og is refusing to clarify anything but the more digging I do, the more likely it's looking Og was running a ponzi scheme layer on top of pirateat40s ponzi scheme.

OG refuses to address question asked many times in this thread:

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What happened to remaining interest? Smiley

What happened to interest OG received from deposits invested in piratead40's ponzi which haven't been payed to people who invested in his "service"? Old "service" looks zero risk for og. While some users think 2012. is irrelevant because it was 7 years ago, some other users think 2012. is very important.


OG tagged TwitchySeal but has never tagged betcoinag.

So ex DT1 member has time to tag TMAN, owlcatz and TwitchySeal multiple times, Last of the V8s, eoakland because they start asking questions and warn community about certain behavior but doesn't have time to tag scammers (johny1976, pirateat40 --> tagged in 2018, 6 years after crime was committed, Nefario..).

Further, ex DT1 member excluded very known scam buster:


So how about stop being brainwashed and start looking and reading using your own eyes and brain?

This change is good, much better than old default trust system.

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January 31, 2019, 12:34:56 PM
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large number of users protesting

20 out of 2Mil.. yea a real large number buddy
Remove sockpuppets and that number is much smaller  Smiley

The person tagged by OGnasty was a proven scammer and he pointed a good one though. You can see some of the proves here:
~
this proves he was shitposting.
Tagged for shitposting?  Shocked

Also, the person who got negative trust was early blackmailer:
EOAKLAND - blackmailer
this proves he was an early blackmailer
What the are you talking about? Eokland was scammed and asked refund. While Eokland was tagged, OG has never tagged scammer.

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None of this proves to show that OGnasty has a bad "personality" in his real life and you accused him of wrong being.

What about this ?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75843.msg30855823#msg30855823


For this:
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Og is refusing to clarify anything but the more digging I do, the more likely it's looking Og was running a ponzi scheme layer on top of pirateat40s ponzi scheme.

OG refuses to address question asked many times in this thread:

Quote
What happened to remaining interest? Smiley

What happened to interest OG received from deposits invested in piratead40's ponzi which haven't been payed to people who invested in his "service"? Old "service" looks zero risk for og. While some users think 2012. is irrelevant because it was 7 years ago, some other users think 2012. is very important.


OG tagged TwitchySeal but has never tagged betcoinag.

So ex DT1 member has time to tag TMAN, owlcatz and TwitchySeal multiple times, Last of the V8s, eoakland because they start asking questions and warn community about certain behavior but doesn't have time to tag scammers (johny1976, pirateat40 --> tagged in 2018, 6 years after crime was committed, Nefario..).

Further, ex DT1 member excluded very known scam buster:


So how about stop being brainwashed and start looking and reading using your own eyes and brain?

This change is good, much better than old default trust system.

You try to justify your buddy scammers Lauda Cult by providing a "possible scam" (haven't checked it so i have no right to make an opinion on that) from somebody else ?
If you think it was a scam add him in your distrust list .Easy as that but also include Lauda,TMAN,OWLCATZ etc for their extortion and many other things they did.And stop justifying their scam and abuse by showing other peoples action




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Yeah i guess thats why you freaked out on the whole russian subforum because it was just 20 people in total  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Yeah i guess thats why you freaked out on the whole russian subforum because it was just 20 people in total  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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January 31, 2019, 01:03:40 PM
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Yeah i guess thats why you freaked out on the whole russian subforum because it was just 20 people in total  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

20 people support you tops.. you are a nobody, an tiny little parasite in the grand scheme of things - same as your Alt ITO and your buddy cryptocunter - just because you lot post more than anyone else doesnt mean people listen.

LOL at this fool tman. Ask him for a list of his best posts or a list of his achievements here (not including extorting people or trust abusing by his own admission)

Let's await for the results.

Tman present some of your best posts.... LOL

Tman present some of your achievements here... LOL

Or just continue to swear and demonstrate how useless you are.

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In the case of members who actually do have a reputation, their only strategy is to attempt to diminish that with accusations and mobbing, because that is all they know how to do. They are used to being able to dismiss every complaint as a scammer or an alt, and in a constant mindset of either you do way I say or you are a scammer or supporting scams, not because I have proof, but because I said so. This is why we need a standard of evidence for rating.

Maybe you should try creating some more locked threads instead. Surely that will solve the problem!

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January 31, 2019, 02:47:53 PM
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In the case of members who actually do have a reputation, their only strategy is to attempt to diminish that with accusations and mobbing, because that is all they know how to do. They are used to being able to dismiss every complaint as a scammer or an alt, and in a constant mindset of either you do way I say or you are a scammer or supporting scams, not because I have proof, but because I said so. This is why we need a standard of evidence for rating.

Maybe you should try creating some more locked threads instead. Surely that will solve the problem!

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Come on snake. I have notice you are supporting a proven liar and proven trust abuser on DT. I don't think we can rely on anything you say to be for the good of the board from now on. I certainly would not trust you now stfu.

want proof- just ask. Perhaps I will review my opinion of you when you stop supporting proven liars and proven trust abusers.

You are looking more like a sig spamming shit poster daily. Remove that sig and stop financially motivated shit posting net negative dirt 24/7

Facts based post - either make a facts based rebuttal of just hide away like the rest of the scum bags on here.

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January 31, 2019, 02:54:35 PM
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Come on snake. I have notice you are supporting a proven liar and proven trust abuser on DT. I don't think we can rely on anything you say to be for the good of the board from now on. I certainly would not trust you now stfu.

want proof- just ask. Perhaps I will review my opinion of you when you stop supporting proven liars and proven trust abusers.

You are looking more like a sig spamming shit poster daily. Remove that sig and stop financially motivated shit posting net negative dirt 24/7

Facts based post - either make a facts based rebuttal of just hide away like the rest of the scum bags on here.

For such an outspoken advocate of free speech here at the forum you sure do like to tell people to go away and stop posting. Double standards are great when they fit your agenda, right?

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January 31, 2019, 02:56:02 PM
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Come on snake. I have notice you are supporting a proven liar and proven trust abuser on DT. I don't think we can rely on anything you say to be for the good of the board from now on. I certainly would not trust you now stfu.

want proof- just ask. Perhaps I will review my opinion of you when you stop supporting proven liars and proven trust abusers.

You are looking more like a sig spamming shit poster daily. Remove that sig and stop financially motivated shit posting net negative dirt 24/7

Facts based post - either make a facts based rebuttal of just hide away like the rest of the scum bags on here.

For such an outspoken advocate of free speech here at the forum you sure do like to tell people to go away and stop posting. Double standards are great when they fit your agenda, right?

It is not double standard to tell proven liars and the supporters of proven liars that their posts can not be trusted.
Sorry you can not understand that.

The honest, trustworthy and fair should post unfettered by these scum bags.

Telling liars or supporters of liars and therefore untrustworthy to either bring evidence to support their spurious claims and accusations is net positive. The truth should be presented and analysed not their lies and deceptive dirt. 

Stop sig spamming for btc dust. Your post added nothing and just wasted my time explaining it you.

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