Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins

[P00P135]

Found on twitter:
https://twitter.com/BitsBeTrippin/status/1097235591798968320

"4 hour stream today of iteratively testing the @Radeon VII with beta driver 19.2.2 showed max of 92.6mh eth, 2982 h’s on XMR v8, 26.1mh on RVN, 2622 h’s on bittube and 4.63 gps on GRIN29"

Power draw: around 260W.

RVN no surprise, there's no good AMD miner yet anyway. ETH and XMR as expected, I think Teamred can extract more out of the VII's if they have time to do so (they might just ignore the current version as the fork is imminent anyway).

C29, meh. I'm however more interested in a good C31 figure if anyone can provide one. I expect this to be a lot better.

Wildrig miner works pretty good for RVN.  Stock clocks and negative power limit seems to work best for me.

[Metroid]

if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.

[dragonmike]

if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.

Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

[wudafuxup]

if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.

Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

[dragonmike]

if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.

Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

Correct, which means you get hashrates that are higher for the same or less power draw. Nothing to be unhappy about... if it comes at the right price tag (which it doesn't, currently - but AMD has lowered prices on Vega GPUs fairly quickly, so with a bit of luck, the same will happen with Radeon VII).

[Metroid]

if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.

Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

This, nothing new about it, actually i think vega 14nm is way more powerful given is 14nm and i dont think drivers will help it either. If it was a pure die shrink then monero was supposed to have hashrates around 4000mhs which is not the case. I'm a lot more interested in navi.

[Iamtutut]

Prices of the Radeon VII will drop, TMSC 7nm node will run at full capacity by the end of march. Vendors will adjust the price regarding the RTX2080 and it's a bear market for GPU sales.

Remember that mining softwares did noit exploit the Vega correctly for quite some times, then all came with a 10% boost on CN all of a sudden.

I really think with the huge mem bandwith, the radeon VII can render some dual algo mining very interesting again, like one with 60%/40% core/mem ressources used, another one 40% core 60% mem.

[jstefanop]

if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.

Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

This, nothing new about it, actually i think vega 14nm is way more powerful given is 14nm and i dont think drivers will help it either. If it was a pure die shrink then monero was supposed to have hashrates around 4000mhs which is not the case. I'm a lot more interested in navi.

There is no reason why Radeon VII cant hit 4k monero. Its doing 90MH eth. Something in the cryptonight kernel is not properly optimized to take advantage of the full bandwidth. Only other thing I can think of is that the algorithm is way more compute bound, so reduced number of cores is having a significant bottleneck.

[heavyarms1912]

if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.

Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

This, nothing new about it, actually i think vega 14nm is way more powerful given is 14nm and i dont think drivers will help it either. If it was a pure die shrink then monero was supposed to have hashrates around 4000mhs which is not the case. I'm a lot more interested in navi.

There is no reason why Radeon VII cant hit 4k monero. Its doing 90MH eth. Something in the cryptonight kernel is not properly optimized to take advantage of the full bandwidth. Only other thing I can think of is that the algorithm is way more compute bound, so reduced number of cores is having a significant bottleneck.

I think it's the 2nd.  Coz there is marginal improvement when HBM is ocd over 1150 or so.  Only increasing core freq boosts the hashrate.  So it's more likely core limited.  cnv8 is more compute heavier than cnv7.

[Ryzen2700x]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-radeon-vii-16-gb.251935/page-21#post-3999343
New Atiflash inside Asus Radeon VII vbios update.

Power/voltage tweaks:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/67-amd/1633446-preliminary-view-amd-vega-bios-130.html

[VoskCoin]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-radeon-vii-16-gb.251935/page-21#post-3999343
New Atiflash inside Asus Radeon VII vbios update.

Power/voltage tweaks:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/67-amd/1633446-preliminary-view-amd-vega-bios-130.html

thanks for this information!

[MA3A]

So i managed to get 2800hs(stable) with peaking 2900hs with CASTXMR from GANDALPH3000 but could not get anything more than 2000 with xmrstack or xmrig...
VOSK - can share your config, as well as WATTMAN - monitor when it runs? What is the brand of your card? and what revision is your GPU (i know there is at least 3 revisions) and who is memory manufacturer?
Thanks

[Ryzen2700x]

New Bios is out:
Old BIOS Version: 016.004.000.030.011639
New BIOS Version: 016.004.000.038.011717
https://www.amd.com/en/support/radeonvii-vbios-eula
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/atmrwv/radeon_vii_new_bios_v106_available/

[berk0080]

I also took the plunge. Pretty happy so far. I had some fun last night with with another subzero MN cold front. Was able to hit 100Mh on ETH. See video below:

https://youtu.be/tESw7vbTuq8

[Marvell2]

I also took the plunge. Pretty happy so far. I had some fun last night with with another subzero MN cold front. Was able to hit 100Mh on ETH. See video below:

https://youtu.be/tESw7vbTuq8

How much power tho

[Iamtutut]

On video games, it seems the Radeon VII works fine at 995-1000mV, much better average speed. Power draw is also better reduced this way. Should be worth giving it a try for Radeon VII while mining

[iRonNuke]

Anyone knows a Grin31 (Cuckatoo) miner for Radeon VII? I think it will be quite good at it because 16 GB VRAM.

[lunobird]

I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks

[chup]

I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks

I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

[lunobird]

I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks

I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.