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February 07, 2019, 03:10:25 PM
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Wondering who else took the gamble of ordering the AMD Radeon VII, if you haven't already you can still grab it from AMD http://voskco.in/amd (not a ref code, just a short link)

update 2 Put together Radeon VII mining video review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq3vyjmdp8U



Radeon VII hashrate chart

http://voskco.in/VIIHashrates (not a referral link)



update Found a pre-order that you can still order w/ on Amazon -- http://geni.us/SNwu
Sapphire sold out, ASUS now available to pre-order -- http://geni.us/YdyU
MSI just came in stock also -- http://geni.us/LlC11
(this is a referral link and redirects your to your countries Amazon)

At the moment they're not on Amazon (US) & Newegg seemed to have very limited stock & is already sold out.


As results roll in I'll update them here and compile relevant links/downloads. I'll also share my own test results when mine arrives.

First update, wovan posted screenshot from crypto mining blog showing 90 mh/s on eth w/ claymore 12


kibatronic posted this screenshot on this thread hitting ~100 mh/s on ethash 02.11.19

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February 07, 2019, 03:38:55 PM
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90mh
https://cryptomining-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/amd-radeon-vii-ethash-hashrate.jpg
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February 07, 2019, 04:04:10 PM
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Good idea, Vosk, let's get some results together in one thread.

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Seriously, who cares about mining ETH with GPUs nowadays? We're gonna have to wait for more test reviews.



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February 07, 2019, 04:41:02 PM
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So basically is 3 x rx 570 = $450, rvii = $700, for it to be par on, then at least  4 x rx 570 = 120 mh/s $600, maybe it can achieve 120 mh/s with some special timmings.

https://whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=90&p=180&fee=3.0&cost=0.1&hcost=699&commit=Calculate

break even around 1500 days or almost 5 years, eth will have to go up by few times till this becomes profitable.

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February 07, 2019, 04:50:24 PM
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grabbed one myself, but would like to keep updated on your results
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February 07, 2019, 04:52:07 PM
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Elephant in the room is power usage, surely. 90mhs is all very well, but if it's eating 300W to do it then...

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February 07, 2019, 04:58:34 PM
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Some cryptonight heavy speeds would be nice
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February 07, 2019, 04:59:59 PM
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Yes, but 3 x RX570 eating 350-400W (~85mh/s).
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February 07, 2019, 05:18:39 PM
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Seems to be already sold out on AMD and Newegg
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February 07, 2019, 05:30:09 PM
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Seems to be already sold out on AMD and Newegg
That it is Angry

Worst part it appears to be in stock on AMD until you get to the final stage of checkout lol








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getting 2 pieces. Still curious how power hungry they are
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Really wanted one for my own testing was hoping since there no more "miner craze" unlike the Vega 56/64 I'll be able to pick one up on launch... yeah right. AMD straight up lied about Inventory.
"This morning AMD has released an official response to these rumours, claiming that the company expects to meet demand from gamers, declining to release detailed production numbers"


https://www.pcbuildersclub.com/en/2019/01/radeon-vega-vii-allegedly-less-than-5000-units-available-for-launch/

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_responds_to_radeon_vii_short_supply_rumours/1
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February 07, 2019, 06:02:00 PM
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Yes, but 3 x RX570 eating 350-400W (~85mh/s).

what is the point saving on electricity and paying 100% more in advance, i mean you can get 3 x rx 570 for $350, so basically you can get 6 for the price of a radeon vii but like you said electricity, but pay attention, electricity you pay every month for each card, this $350 you will pay at once, so basically imagine you paying $120 concerning electricity + $120 for the card itself, it doubles. So it boils down to, you pay $350 more at once for the radeon vii  or you pay those same $350 on electricity for few years for those 3 x rx 570.

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Really wanted one for my own testing was hoping since there no more "miner craze" unlike the Vega 56/64 I'll be able to pick one up on launch... yeah right. AMD straight up lied about Inventory.
"This morning AMD has released an official response to these rumours, claiming that the company expects to meet demand from gamers, declining to release detailed production numbers"


https://www.pcbuildersclub.com/en/2019/01/radeon-vega-vii-allegedly-less-than-5000-units-available-for-launch/

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_responds_to_radeon_vii_short_supply_rumours/1

it is very frustrating, my order w/ newegg was voided T_T -- was able to place a pre-order here (amazon ref link) on the sapphire model -- only option I still see taking orders ATM http://geni.us/SNwu



Yes, but 3 x RX570 eating 350-400W (~85mh/s).

what is the point saving on electricity and paying 100% more in advance, i mean you can get 3 x rx 570 for $350, so basically you can get 6 for the price of a radeon vii but like you said electricity, but pay attention, electricity you pay every month for each card, this $350 you will pay at once, so basically imagine you paying $120 concerning electricity + $120 for the card itself, it doubles. So it boils down to, you pay $350 more at once for the radeon vii  or you pay those same $350 on electricity for few years for those 3 x rx 570.

I see both sides here, but at least w/ the VII you have the latest and greatest card

it's like an army of 1050 TIs vs a 1080 TI, I'd like the 1080 TI Cheesy

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February 07, 2019, 06:11:51 PM
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Surprises me that ppl are still buying cards , all my cards are paid off but no way am I buying more lol
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February 07, 2019, 06:28:21 PM
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Someone messed up at newegg last night and listed an XFX model for $599.99 ( $100 cheaper and 12 hours early too). Sadly they sold out before I could buy one. 

That 90 hashrate on Eth is pretty sweet, but I think CNH is where these will probably shine the most.  Of course with mining profits rather poor in general it would be hard to buy more then just one for testing right now (for me at least).
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Yes, but 3 x RX570 eating 350-400W (~85mh/s).

what is the point saving on electricity and paying 100% more in advance, i mean you can get 3 x rx 570 for $350, so basically you can get 6 for the price of a radeon vii but like you said electricity, but pay attention, electricity you pay every month for each card, this $350 you will pay at once, so basically imagine you paying $120 concerning electricity + $120 for the card itself, it doubles. So it boils down to, you pay $350 more at once for the radeon vii  or you pay those same $350 on electricity for few years for those 3 x rx 570.

I see both sides here, but at least w/ the VII you have the latest and greatest card

it's like an army of 1050 TIs vs a 1080 TI, I'd like the 1080 TI Cheesy

My point was to explain both sides, for me there is no better decision there, you win here and lose there in both ways, in your case you say the latest and greatest card hehe

Surprises me that ppl are still buying cards , all my cards are paid off but no way am I buying more lol

I guess it depends how the market is, I myself think whoever buys this card for mining thinks crypto currency prices will rise a lot for gpus like this to be profitable. You see but that is also the problem, as the price rises and so the difficult, you cant win here.

I think some coins price will rise few times this year. I believe eth will at least reach $800 this year.

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oh man these seem very under supplied. i was not able to get my hands on one of these so will wait like everyone else to see mining results. gaming wise they seem to be on par with rtx 2080 which is nice. mining wise they are looking quite promising. 90 mh for eth is strong.
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February 07, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
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Someone messed up at newegg last night and listed an XFX model for $599.99 ( $100 cheaper and 12 hours early too). Sadly they sold out before I could buy one. 

That 90 hashrate on Eth is pretty sweet, but I think CNH is where these will probably shine the most.  Of course with mining profits rather poor in general it would be hard to buy more then just one for testing right now (for me at least).

that's kind of where I'm at, want to get one to play around with and if somehow its record breaking . . maybe splurge on another! lol all w/ dreams of breaking even within a year Huh

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February 07, 2019, 06:56:15 PM
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Dont forget when etherium fork happens end of this month the reward goes down from 3 eth to 2 eth so even if these card get to 110 m/hs you will still be loosing a lot of $$$$
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Elephant in the room is power usage, surely. 90mhs is all very well, but if it's eating 300W to do it then...

Thats what I figured this would do with ETH, and thats un-optimized (this thing has so much memory you could load 4-5 separate DAGs on to it), so it could easily push 100MH.

Big thing here is power though, especially in the current market. Underclocked it will probably be able to do 100MH @ ~ 150-200w which is huge.

Thats half the power of the bitmain ASICs and 570s.

Price wise it sucks, but if your paying high electricity (over 10c/kw) then just the power savings alone per year is worth it, especially if your "upgrading" from 570s.

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February 07, 2019, 07:41:05 PM
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Elephant in the room is power usage, surely. 90mhs is all very well, but if it's eating 300W to do it then...

Thats what I figured this would do with ETH, and thats un-optimized (this thing has so much memory you could load 4-5 separate DAGs on to it), so it could easily push 100MH.

Big thing here is power though, especially in the current market. Underclocked it will probably be able to do 100MH @ ~ 150-200w which is huge.

Thats half the power of the bitmain ASICs and 570s.

Price wise it sucks, but if your paying high electricity (over 10c/kw) then just the power savings alone per year is worth it, especially if your "upgrading" from 570s.

I can't imagine that ETH would be the most profitable thing to mine with these...  I'm waiting to see some real results on other algorithms before making my buy.  These seem like a no-brainer of a purchase when compared to the 2080ti, but I'd like confirmation first.  After many years of GPU mining, I've had so many headaches related to the software powering AMD GPUs, they'll have to come with something really great for me to choose them over Nvidia on my next purchase. 


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February 07, 2019, 07:50:43 PM
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Dont forget when etherium fork happens end of this month the reward goes down from 3 eth to 2 eth so even if these card get to 110 m/hs you will still be loosing a lot of $$$$

The market and nicehash tends to flatten out the usd earnings for most coins to be close to the same. Yes you will get less eth unit earnings but usd earnings should be flatten out with the rest of the coins.

One can always mine etc and sell for eth.  If there are any big differences. Hence market will always level things out.
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February 07, 2019, 08:58:40 PM
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For anyone trying to get these still, the Sapphire listed sold out, but ASUS is now available to pre-order -- http://geni.us/YdyU
MSI just came in stock also -- http://geni.us/LlC11

Couple scalpers popping up on eBay too, above are at MSRP

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February 07, 2019, 09:32:54 PM
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For anyone trying to get these still, the Sapphire listed sold out, but ASUS is now available to pre-order -- http://geni.us/YdyU
MSI just came in stock also -- http://geni.us/LlC11

Couple scalpers popping up on eBay too, above are at MSRP

Thanks for the Amazon link. I ordered one even though it was temporarily out of stock. Fomo'ing to break even with electric is the new hot thing to do in crypto. Honestly I'm just bored and want something to tinker with in bear trend.
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February 07, 2019, 09:56:52 PM
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Also curious to see the wattage and the performance in other algos. I haven't mined anything EThash based in over a year now. Might be worth selling 470/570s for these.

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For anyone trying to get these still, the Sapphire listed sold out, but ASUS is now available to pre-order -- http://geni.us/YdyU
MSI just came in stock also -- http://geni.us/LlC11

Couple scalpers popping up on eBay too, above are at MSRP

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February 08, 2019, 07:46:16 AM
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that screenshot means nothing
i can make a 560 look like its hashing at 90Mh
but it will not find shares at that rate
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February 08, 2019, 09:14:13 AM
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Elephant in the room is power usage, surely. 90mhs is all very well, but if it's eating 300W to do it then...

Thats what I figured this would do with ETH, and thats un-optimized (this thing has so much memory you could load 4-5 separate DAGs on to it), so it could easily push 100MH.

Big thing here is power though, especially in the current market. Underclocked it will probably be able to do 100MH @ ~ 150-200w which is huge.

Thats half the power of the bitmain ASICs and 570s.

Price wise it sucks, but if your paying high electricity (over 10c/kw) then just the power savings alone per year is worth it, especially if your "upgrading" from 570s.


Exactly - if the 7nm die/whatever else AMD have baked in brings efficiency back into profitable territory then it's worth a shot, even with enormous ROI. But if efficiency isn't high, then it's a complete waste of time/electric. So pretty essential part of the information that isn't being shared yet!

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A mining rig with 8 of these cards, riserless board would be great with 0.72 Ghs speed of mining in a single board. It is a lot better than E3 Antminer and it can also mine other coins, it should also shine on cryptonight algorithm. It is expensive to build such rig right now wih profitability down but for any believer in crypto it is wise to build such rig.

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February 08, 2019, 01:57:51 PM
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12x Vega 56 Rig = 24KHs cryptonight = 500MHs ETH / 1800W = 120€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)
6x Vega 7 = maybe 24KHs cryptonight = +-600MHs ETH /  +-900W?! = 60€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)

prices
sell 12x Vega 56 = 2700€
buy 6x Vega 7 = 4500€
------------------------------------
switch to vega 7 = 1800€
60€ less electricity / month = 30 months to equal


mhhhhhh.....
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A mining rig with 8 of these cards, riserless board would be great with 0.72 Ghs speed of mining in a single board. It is a lot better than E3 Antminer and it can also mine other coins, it should also shine on cryptonight algorithm. It is expensive to build such rig right now wih profitability down but for any believer in crypto it is wise to build such rig.

Dude, you mined any cryptonight coin recently? They are asic-ed to fook.

Even if these 7s double the CN hashrate of the 64 and power use stays the same (neither of which seems likely), you'd still only be breaking even on electric costs. 

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A mining rig with 8 of these cards, riserless board would be great with 0.72 Ghs speed of mining in a single board. It is a lot better than E3 Antminer and it can also mine other coins, it should also shine on cryptonight algorithm. It is expensive to build such rig right now wih profitability down but for any believer in crypto it is wise to build such rig.

Dude, you mined any cryptonight coin recently? They are asic-ed to fook.

Even if these 7s double the CN hashrate of the 64 and power use stays the same (neither of which seems likely), you'd still only be breaking even on electric costs.  

I am mining since 2014 but I already noted only build one for those who believe in the future of crypto not the ones who are in for the quick buck. Crypto needs real hardcore miners and not kiddies who want to make that quick buck. Mining is not for everyone in case you haven't noticed yet.

I am mining cryptonight Heavy with Nvidias still do 500 h/s with a 1060.

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February 08, 2019, 02:23:58 PM
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12x Vega 56 Rig = 24KHs cryptonight = 500MHs ETH / 1800W = 120€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)
6x Vega 7 = maybe 24KHs cryptonight = +-600MHs ETH /  +-900W?! = 60€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)

prices
sell 12x Vega 56 = 2700€
buy 6x Vega 7 = 4500€
------------------------------------
switch to vega 7 = 1800€
60€ less electricity / month = 30 months to equal


mhhhhhh.....

 your electric per month should be $129.60   at 10 cents per kwh     30 days per month
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A mining rig with 8 of these cards, riserless board would be great with 0.72 Ghs speed of mining in a single board. It is a lot better than E3 Antminer and it can also mine other coins, it should also shine on cryptonight algorithm. It is expensive to build such rig right now wih profitability down but for any believer in crypto it is wise to build such rig.

Dude, you mined any cryptonight coin recently? They are asic-ed to fook.

Even if these 7s double the CN hashrate of the 64 and power use stays the same (neither of which seems likely), you'd still only be breaking even on electric costs.  

I am mining since 2014 but I already noted only build one for those who believe in the future of crypto not the ones who are in for the quick buck. Crypto needs real hardcore miners and not kiddies who want to make that quick buck. Mining is not for everyone in case you haven't noticed yet.

I am mining cryptonight Heavy with Nvidias still do 500 h/s with a 1060.

Kiddies? haha. If only! Nice to meet a real hardcore miner though. I have been mining for about the same time, but CN has never been so bad. Now a £2k Vega rig will 'make' c.$40 usd a month, and costs £90 a month to run here in the UK. The maths does not look good.

Indeed, you mention the future of crypto, but there cannot be many who are willing to run at such a loss. I fear many of these Pow networks will fall, as they require running at a significant loss. It is not a practical place to be.





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A mining rig with 8 of these cards, riserless board would be great with 0.72 Ghs speed of mining in a single board. It is a lot better than E3 Antminer and it can also mine other coins, it should also shine on cryptonight algorithm. It is expensive to build such rig right now wih profitability down but for any believer in crypto it is wise to build such rig.

Dude, you mined any cryptonight coin recently? They are asic-ed to fook.

Even if these 7s double the CN hashrate of the 64 and power use stays the same (neither of which seems likely), you'd still only be breaking even on electric costs.  

I am mining since 2014 but I already noted only build one for those who believe in the future of crypto not the ones who are in for the quick buck. Crypto needs real hardcore miners and not kiddies who want to make that quick buck. Mining is not for everyone in case you haven't noticed yet.

I am mining cryptonight Heavy with Nvidias still do 500 h/s with a 1060.

Kiddies? haha. If only! Nice to meet a real hardcore miner though. I have been mining for about the same time, but CN has never been so bad. Now a £2k Vega rig will 'make' c.$40 usd a month, and costs £90 a month to run here in the UK. The maths does not look good.

Indeed, you mention the future of crypto, but there cannot be many who are willing to run at such a loss. I fear many of these Pow networks will fall, as they require running at a significant loss. It is not a practical place to be.


The future likely lies in broadly available and affordable FPGA devices that are easy to program with a wide array of bitstreams available. GPU mining will eventually die, there's no doubt about it, just as ASIC mining will. What people forget is that everyone should have the same fair access to the network to participate. This is what satoshi's vision was. One should not have to invest 2000+$ in a GPU rig or an ASIC with high electricity costs to make a few cents a day.

Mining just because you're a hardcore miner doesn't make sense at some point, at least when you have more than say 2 rigs. I've been in the game since 2015/2016 but recently changed the way I operate by mining on solar power only (I made my own smart mining algo using a bit of scripts and ingenuity, check the 8th altcoin thread if you want more info). I mine less coins a day, but it's 100% profit.
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I mine less coins a day, but it's 100% profit.

You failed with this quote. While solar power is free you still have to invest on the hardware which is very blood expensive and already proven that solar power even with the minimum cost at all fronts still cost more than 0.07 cents per kwh.



12x Vega 56 Rig = 24KHs cryptonight = 500MHs ETH / 1800W = 120€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)
6x Vega 7 = maybe 24KHs cryptonight = +-600MHs ETH /  +-900W?! = 60€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)

prices
sell 12x Vega 56 = 2700€
buy 6x Vega 7 = 4500€
------------------------------------
switch to vega 7 = 1800€
60€ less electricity / month = 30 months to equal


mhhhhhh.....

So, can you really sell each vega for 350 dollars? I myself would never pay that much for it, in my book vega 14nm is worth only $200.

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I also bought one. But for gaming mostly. For mining not so much. It isn't worth it at all. Expecally not with my expensive electricity (0.126$ kWh). As someone said above, who is mining Ethash nowadays anyway? Smiley

Bought 2 x Vega 56 when they came out, and I still don't regret that.
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My results so far.
Unable to run in hiveos, have to use win, no overclocking possible yet...
Eth 90mhs
Grin c29 4,5gps, unable to run c31
Progpow 30mhs
Xmr 1880h/s
I had just 2 hours for tests, will see more results later.
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What driver do you guys use? The old but stable 18.6.1 (or maybe older?) or the new one?
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My results so far.
Unable to run in hiveos, have to use win, no overclocking possible yet...
Eth 90mhs
Grin c29 4,5gps, unable to run c31
Progpow 30mhs
Xmr 1880h/s
I had just 2 hours for tests, will see more results later.

So is only good on progpow and ethash.

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My results so far.
Unable to run in hiveos, have to use win, no overclocking possible yet...
Eth 90mhs
Grin c29 4,5gps, unable to run c31
Progpow 30mhs
Xmr 1880h/s
I had just 2 hours for tests, will see more results later.

So is only good on progpow and ethash.

I'm a bit surprised, I would have expected much better hashrates on XMR..... even though that doesn't matter anymore.
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My results so far.
Unable to run in hiveos, have to use win, no overclocking possible yet...
Eth 90mhs
Grin c29 4,5gps, unable to run c31
Progpow 30mhs
Xmr 1880h/s
I had just 2 hours for tests, will see more results later.

How about BEAM 150,5 algo? I ordered mine but wont get until Wednesday 2/13
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What driver do you guys use? The old but stable 18.6.1 (or maybe older?) or the new one?
I can guarantee you this thing ain't gonna work on old drivers, they wouldn't have added it to driver versions besides the most recent around its launch, and since 19.1.1 didn't have support yet, it'll be the new 19.2.x ones fitting that bill.
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No, older drivers do not work.

CNHaven aswell not good results ~ 2400h/s for 220W

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Try C31 using the Minerbabe distro. It worked very well with the "old" Vegas.

Failing this it's just going to be a case of waiting for better drivers. These early ones have been slammed by all the reviewers.



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February 09, 2019, 01:01:58 PM
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Try C31 using the Minerbabe distro. It worked very well with the "old" Vegas.

Failing this it's just going to be a case of waiting for better drivers. These early ones have been slammed by all the reviewers.

Already tried.
Minerbabe is not able to run VII. No drivers, no support.
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so, running 2 units, getting 87 mh/s for each. So far i din't find any real tweaking options. Also, i wasn't able to install driver support for both Radeon VII and Vega on the same sytem
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so, running 2 units, getting 87 mh/s for each. So far i din't find any real tweaking options. Also, i wasn't able to install driver support for both Radeon VII and Vega on the same sytem

Very same for my 2units.
Almost 300w/gpu.
Some say it should make 100-125mhs/200w with proper undervolting, but anything I've tried to use didn't work.
Tried wattman, afterburner etc...
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yep. can take some time till proper support is available
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February 09, 2019, 03:25:53 PM
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We currently have Vega 56/64 Support on msOS.

msOS Experimental version using 18.50 amdgpu-pro drivers.
We can test Radeon VII within 7 days, but if anyone has a unit, can give it a try with our mining os.

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We currently have Vega 56/64 Support on msOS.

msOS Experimental version using 18.50 amdgpu-pro drivers.
We can test Radeon VII within 7 days, but if anyone has a unit, can give it a try with our mining os.
I can test it later this weekend, but I'm not a linux guy, if anything necessary to know pm me.
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Anyone tried the ROCm driver version ?
https://github.com/RadeonOpenCompute/ROCm
Help install:
https://github.com/EPICBOOST/ePIC-Boost-Miner/blob/master/README.md#driver-selection
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We currently have Vega 56/64 Support on msOS.

msOS Experimental version using 18.50 amdgpu-pro drivers.
We can test Radeon VII within 7 days, but if anyone has a unit, can give it a try with our mining os.
I can test it later this weekend, but I'm not a linux guy, if anything necessary to know pm me.

Sure, sounds great. If you get stuck with something you can also join us on Discord https://discord.gg/d679vuP

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12x Vega 56 Rig = 24KHs cryptonight = 500MHs ETH / 1800W = 120€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)
6x Vega 7 = maybe 24KHs cryptonight = +-600MHs ETH /  +-900W?! = 60€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)

prices
sell 12x Vega 56 = 2700€
buy 6x Vega 7 = 4500€
------------------------------------
switch to vega 7 = 1800€
60€ less electricity / month = 30 months to equal


mhhhhhh.....

So, can you really sell each vega for 350 dollars? I myself would never pay that much for it, in my book vega 14nm is worth only $200.

350,-?! 2700/12 = 225,-
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12x Vega 56 Rig = 24KHs cryptonight = 500MHs ETH / 1800W = 120€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)
6x Vega 7 = maybe 24KHs cryptonight = +-600MHs ETH /  +-900W?! = 60€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)

prices
sell 12x Vega 56 = 2700€
buy 6x Vega 7 = 4500€
------------------------------------
switch to vega 7 = 1800€
60€ less electricity / month = 30 months to equal


mhhhhhh.....

10x Rx 570 = $700 - $850USD (300Mhs, 1000W)
Vega 7 = $700 USD (Best case 120Mh/s, 200W)

Looking at ETH alone, polaris cards on firesale is just too good to pass up. Any surviving miner with low cost should go for used polaris cards. Like how they should go S9s for $150 w psu instead of S15s for $1k.

Only worth considering if Vega 7 = 2x Vega 56 in cryptonight, and cryptonight profitability makes a comeback. I still want one though because I'm irrational.
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12x Vega 56 Rig = 24KHs cryptonight = 500MHs ETH / 1800W = 120€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)
6x Vega 7 = maybe 24KHs cryptonight = +-600MHs ETH /  +-900W?! = 60€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)

prices
sell 12x Vega 56 = 2700€
buy 6x Vega 7 = 4500€
------------------------------------
switch to vega 7 = 1800€
60€ less electricity / month = 30 months to equal


mhhhhhh.....

10x Rx 570 = $700 - $850USD (300Mhs, 1000W)
Vega 7 = $700 USD (Best case 120Mh/s, 200W)

Looking at ETH alone, polaris cards on firesale is just too good to pass up. Any surviving miner with low cost should go for used polaris cards. Like how they should go S9s for $150 w psu instead of S15s for $1k.

Only worth considering if Vega 7 = 2x Vega 56 in cryptonight, and cryptonight profitability makes a comeback. I still want one though because I'm irrational.

How can this card be 2x a Vega 56?Huh
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My results so far.
Unable to run in hiveos, have to use win, no overclocking possible yet...
Eth 90mhs
Grin c29 4,5gps, unable to run c31
Progpow 30mhs
Xmr 1880h/s
I had just 2 hours for tests, will see more results later.
No, older drivers do not work.

CNHaven aswell not good results ~ 2400h/s for 220W



Guess there is a lot to improve for monero as Vegas get around ~2 Kh/s.
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12x Vega 56 Rig = 24KHs cryptonight = 500MHs ETH / 1800W = 120€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)
6x Vega 7 = maybe 24KHs cryptonight = +-600MHs ETH /  +-900W?! = 60€ electricity month (10cents/kwh)

prices
sell 12x Vega 56 = 2700€
buy 6x Vega 7 = 4500€
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switch to vega 7 = 1800€
60€ less electricity / month = 30 months to equal


mhhhhhh.....

10x Rx 570 = $700 - $850USD (300Mhs, 1000W)
Vega 7 = $700 USD (Best case 120Mh/s, 200W)

Looking at ETH alone, polaris cards on firesale is just too good to pass up. Any surviving miner with low cost should go for used polaris cards. Like how they should go S9s for $150 w psu instead of S15s for $1k.

Only worth considering if Vega 7 = 2x Vega 56 in cryptonight, and cryptonight profitability makes a comeback. I still want one though because I'm irrational.

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-GDDR5-DVI-D-Graphics/dp/B07MCDNQX2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=sapphire+rx+570&qid=1549732748&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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if eth moves to progpow then most likely amd cards are dead on it cause nvidia cards have a huge advantage on it. The good thing is ethash asics will be dead. Funny though, most people using miners in the north hemisphere is to heat their houses hehe, I believe eth price will increase many times this year but if not then many using miners to heat the house will turn off as soon as teh winter ends and dif will crash.

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Status update: with @tw0rak GPUs. We did full support to msOS Experimental version.

Set core clock, memory clock, fan, VDDC also works.
Still some work to do, we noticed If we decrease core clock ETH MH/s also decreases. This because of the need to increase the power limit on GPU's by default.
This card is massive on CORE coins, for memory is a beast too just core+mem high together results in a high temperature.  Work in progress  Grin


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if eth moves to progpow then most likely amd cards are dead on it cause nvidia cards have a huge advantage on it. The good thing is ethash asics will be dead. Funny though, most people using miners in the north hemisphere is to heat their houses hehe, I believe eth price will increase many times this year but if not then many using miners to heat the house will turn off as soon as teh winter ends and dif will crash.
Lol, progpow use highbandwith memory like vega & vii,
The performance of video cards from AMD on the ProgPow algorithm.
AMD Radeon RX 550 = 1.5 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon RX 560 = 3 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon RX 580 = 8.2 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon VEGA 56 = 20.5 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon VEGA 64 = 23 MHS/sec.
The performance of video cards from NVIDIA on the ProgPow algorithm.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060 3gb = 8 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 = 10.9 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 Ti = 11.7 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 = 16 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti = 21.5 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 = 22.5 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 Ti = 34 MHS/sec

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Status update: with @tw0rak GPUs. We did full support to msOS Experimental version.

Set core clock, memory clock, fan, VDDC also works.
Still some work to do, we noticed If we decrease core clock ETH MH/s also decreases. This because of the need to increase the power limit on GPU's by default.
This card is massive on CORE coins, for memory is a beast too just core+mem high together results in a high temperature.  Work in progress  Grin



What's the power draw ?

Possible to undervolt ?
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Status update: with @tw0rak GPUs. We did full support to msOS Experimental version.

Set core clock, memory clock, fan, VDDC also works.
Still some work to do, we noticed If we decrease core clock ETH MH/s also decreases. This because of the need to increase the power limit on GPU's by default.
This card is massive on CORE coins, for memory is a beast too just core+mem high together results in a high temperature.  Work in progress  Grin



What's the power draw ?

Possible to undervolt ?

Yes VDDC is controllable. (Undervolt)

If you want to modify the global power consumption that's possible with commands now.

Code:
# GPU0
echo 250000000 > /sys/class/drm/card1/device/hwmon/hwmon0/power1_cap
# GPU1
echo 250000000 > /sys/class/drm/card2/device/hwmon/hwmon1/power1_cap

This is the default settings now, drivers are set to max 250W consumption.

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if eth moves to progpow then most likely amd cards are dead on it cause nvidia cards have a huge advantage on it. The good thing is ethash asics will be dead. Funny though, most people using miners in the north hemisphere is to heat their houses hehe, I believe eth price will increase many times this year but if not then many using miners to heat the house will turn off as soon as teh winter ends and dif will crash.
Lol, progpow use highbandwith memory like vega & vii,
The performance of video cards from AMD on the ProgPow algorithm.
AMD Radeon RX 550 = 1.5 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon RX 560 = 3 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon RX 580 = 8.2 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon VEGA 56 = 20.5 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon VEGA 64 = 23 MHS/sec.
The performance of video cards from NVIDIA on the ProgPow algorithm.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060 3gb = 8 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 = 10.9 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 Ti = 11.7 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 = 16 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti = 21.5 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 = 22.5 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 Ti = 34 MHS/sec

Your results are different than what I saw here, https://whattomine.com/coins

For example, vega 56 does 15 mh/s, in your case 20.5, i wonder where those 25% come in.

Vega 64 17mh/s, in your case 23 mh/s, so different than what I saw on whattomine.

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Your results are different than what I saw here, https://whattomine.com/coins

For example, vega 56 does 15 mh/s, in your case 20.5, i wonder where those 25% come in.

Vega 64 17mh/s, in your case 23 mh/s, so different than what I saw on whattomine.

WTM also states 30Mhs on eth for rx 580 but in reality it does 31.5+
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Your results are different than what I saw here, https://whattomine.com/coins

For example, vega 56 does 15 mh/s, in your case 20.5, i wonder where those 25% come in.

Vega 64 17mh/s, in your case 23 mh/s, so different than what I saw on whattomine.

WTM also states 30Mhs on eth for rx 580 but in reality it does 31.5+

You mus be trolling right? I do not know much about progpow but for ethash i know a lot and I can say that 30 is maximum average modded gpu. For example, some gpus will do 28.5 and some like you said 31.5 and so 30 is the medium number.

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I can say for sure , you can do very easy 31.5MH/s avg on ethereum with rx 580 cards, if and only you know how to mod your bios. ( not with one click bios mode, not with paste and copy mem straps )
Bios hex edited by Me , optimized for ETH mining with the possible lower power consumption with the highest hash rate Wink
There is one of my rig with 10 RX 580 cards and 2 RX 480 , the whole setup pulling 1560 watts at the wall Smiley
The 10 RX580 avg is actually over 31.5MH/s , the 2 RX 480 avg is a little bit over 30MH/s Smiley






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I can say for sure , you can do very easy 31.5MH/s avg on ethereum with rx 580 cards, if and only you know how to mod your bios. ( not with one click bios mode, not with paste and copy mem straps )
Bios hex edited by Me , optimized for ETH mining with the possible lower power consumption with the highest hash rate Wink
There is one of my rig with 10 RX 580 cards and 2 RX 480 , the whole setup pulling 1560 watts at the wall Smiley
The 10 RX580 avg is actually over 31.5MH/s , the 2 RX 480 avg is a little bit over 30MH/s Smiley


On my tests, there is no difference on rx 480 x rx 580 since i downclocked all rx 580 ro rx 480 levels, the 1 to 3% on hashrate is useless x power consumption, not a miner, dont mine, this is just a test I've done last year for a friend, found the best clock x memory concerning hashrate and undervolted. I'd say people having the default 1400 mhz core clock on rx 580 is doing it wrong. Especially in the market right now where electricity costs the most. The idea is to get the best heat sink cooling card, undervolt the most x core clock x memory, find the best hashrate where the medium is found and then leave it be doing its thing.

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if eth moves to progpow then most likely amd cards are dead on it cause nvidia cards have a huge advantage on it. The good thing is ethash asics will be dead. Funny though, most people using miners in the north hemisphere is to heat their houses hehe, I believe eth price will increase many times this year but if not then many using miners to heat the house will turn off as soon as teh winter ends and dif will crash.
Lol, progpow use highbandwith memory like vega & vii,
The performance of video cards from AMD on the ProgPow algorithm.
AMD Radeon RX 550 = 1.5 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon RX 560 = 3 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon RX 580 = 8.2 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon VEGA 56 = 20.5 MHS/sec.
AMD Radeon VEGA 64 = 23 MHS/sec.
The performance of video cards from NVIDIA on the ProgPow algorithm.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060 3gb = 8 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 = 10.9 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 Ti = 11.7 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 = 16 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti = 21.5 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 = 22.5 MHS/sec.
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 Ti = 34 MHS/sec

Your results are different than what I saw here, https://whattomine.com/coins

For example, vega 56 does 15 mh/s, in your case 20.5, i wonder where those 25% come in.

Vega 64 17mh/s, in your case 23 mh/s, so different than what I saw on whattomine.
You're partially right.
AMD cards can achieve the higher hashrates as fmz89 claimed... but at a power draw that's out of this world. Mining ProgPow with a rig of Vegas not only heats up your house, but also your neighbour's in the process.



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Anyone have this card yet? And can do a little benchmark for some popular algorithms?
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Anyone have this card yet? And can do a little benchmark for some popular algorithms?
I do have some but its not easy to run there most of it cos miners are not able to run on this card...
Eth is good and working, but for example C29 = poor 4,3gps, C31 is not working for me...
https://ctrlv.cz/uUxS
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Anyone have this card yet? And can do a little benchmark for some popular algorithms?
I do have some but its not easy to run there most of it cos miners are not able to run on this card...
Eth is good and working, but for example C29 = poor 4,3gps, C31 is not working for me...
https://ctrlv.cz/uUxS


Can you please try with JCE CN miner ?
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My results so far.
Unable to run in hiveos, have to use win, no overclocking possible yet...
Eth 90mhs
Grin c29 4,5gps, unable to run c31
Progpow 30mhs
Xmr 1880h/s
I had just 2 hours for tests, will see more results later.

awesome thank you for sharing, would you mind grabbing screenshots w/ the miner running? I'll load them onto the first post.

Also would like to know which miners used?



so, running 2 units, getting 87 mh/s for each. So far i din't find any real tweaking options. Also, i wasn't able to install driver support for both Radeon VII and Vega on the same sytem

Very same for my 2units.
Almost 300w/gpu.
Some say it should make 100-125mhs/200w with proper undervolting, but anything I've tried to use didn't work.
Tried wattman, afterburner etc...

so your VII are pulling ~300 watts on ethash? What about the other algos?

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Anyone have this card yet? And can do a little benchmark for some popular algorithms?
I do have some but its not easy to run there most of it cos miners are not able to run on this card...
Eth is good and working, but for example C29 = poor 4,3gps, C31 is not working for me...
https://ctrlv.cz/uUxS


Can you please try with JCE CN miner ?
Not today, very busy now.
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Anyone have this card yet? And can do a little benchmark for some popular algorithms?
I do have some but its not easy to run there most of it cos miners are not able to run on this card...
Eth is good and working, but for example C29 = poor 4,3gps, C31 is not working for me...
https://ctrlv.cz/uUxS


Can you please try with JCE CN miner ?

~2700 H/s using xmrig-amd, ~2800 on xmr-stak according this reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/ap3b92/preliminary_test_results_for_radeon_vii_xmr/

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Not today, very busy now.

Is miner hashrate on ethash is equal to pool hashrate?
Thanks.
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Anyone have this card yet? And can do a little benchmark for some popular algorithms?
I do have some but its not easy to run there most of it cos miners are not able to run on this card...
Eth is good and working, but for example C29 = poor 4,3gps, C31 is not working for me...
https://ctrlv.cz/uUxS


Can you please try with JCE CN miner ?

~2700 H/s using xmrig-amd, ~2800 on xmr-stak according this reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/ap3b92/preliminary_test_results_for_radeon_vii_xmr/

That's 20% more than a Vega 64, without optimal drivers and without miners code tuned for Radeon VII.

This GPU may render dual mining interesting again. Mine one core intensive algo, another memory intensive algo.
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Anyone have this card yet? And can do a little benchmark for some popular algorithms?
I do have some but its not easy to run there most of it cos miners are not able to run on this card...
Eth is good and working, but for example C29 = poor 4,3gps, C31 is not working for me...
https://ctrlv.cz/uUxS


Can you please try with JCE CN miner ?

~2700 H/s using xmrig-amd, ~2800 on xmr-stak according this reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/ap3b92/preliminary_test_results_for_radeon_vii_xmr/

That's 20% more than a Vega 64, without optimal drivers and without miners code tuned for Radeon VII.

This GPU may render dual mining interesting again. Mine one core intensive algo, another memory intensive algo.

that'd be really interesting, was depressing to watch dual mining die to ASICs

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100MH/s ETH is possible with a bit of overclocking but the power usage is over 300W.

https://ibb.co/wdzdgR7
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100MH/s ETH is possible with a bit of overclocking but the power usage is over 300W.

https://ibb.co/wdzdgR7

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It seems you could with vega 14nm undervolt a lot without losing hashrate, it looks you cant on vega 7nm as much as you could with vega 14nm.

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It seems you could with vega 14nm undervolt a lot without losing hashrate, it looks you cant on vega 7nm as much as you could with vega 14nm.
with such wide bus and fast memory all algos start bottleneck to compute power. So, you'll need to keep gpu freq high => high voltage => high power consumption
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Mining Beam with lolMiner 0.7 alpha 5b : 24sol/s with 140W power usage.

https://ibb.co/X3Tbbpz

The current driver sucks at overclocking. Settings don't stick or do not apply even if Wattman indicates so. Memory overclocking does not seem to work at all.



Cryptonight v8 (Monero) XMR Stak 2800H/s with a power usage of 160W.

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Cryptonight v8 (Monero) XMR Stak 2800H/s with a power usage of 160W.

https://ibb.co/QQz6KMw

@Kiba, could you give TeamRed's Cryptonight miner a go? In my opinion, Kerney and Todxx have the cleanest V8 kernel out there, and it actually scales well with increased core compute; leading me to believe that CNV8 isn't always memory bound, at least on the vega architecture anyways.
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@Kiba, could you give TeamRed's Cryptonight miner a go? In my opinion, Kerney and Todxx have the cleanest V8 kernel out there, and it actually scales well with increased core compute; leading me to believe that CNV8 isn't always memory bound, at least on the vega architecture anyways.

Unfortunately that miner software does not work with the Radeon 7 at this moment.
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@Kiba, could you give TeamRed's Cryptonight miner a go? In my opinion, Kerney and Todxx have the cleanest V8 kernel out there, and it actually scales well with increased core compute; leading me to believe that CNV8 isn't always memory bound, at least on the vega architecture anyways.

Unfortunately that miner software does not work with the Radeon 7 at this moment.

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@Kiba, could you give TeamRed's Cryptonight miner a go? In my opinion, Kerney and Todxx have the cleanest V8 kernel out there, and it actually scales well with increased core compute; leading me to believe that CNV8 isn't always memory bound, at least on the vega architecture anyways.

Unfortunately that miner software does not work with the Radeon 7 at this moment.

Shucks, well thanks for checking anyways!
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I found a pretty good efficient Hashrate/Watt of 0.55MH/W running the card at 1449MHz giving 75MH/s using 135W of power.

https://ibb.co/9bJN2jv
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It seems you could with vega 14nm undervolt a lot without losing hashrate, it looks you cant on vega 7nm as much as you could with vega 14nm.
with such wide bus and fast memory all algos start bottleneck to compute power. So, you'll need to keep gpu freq high => high voltage => high power consumption

Yeah and that is something I dont like. I have a gtx 1070 I did a test on eth and my best result was 800mv, core voltage +0, power limit 52, core clock -250 and memory clock +730, hashes at 32.7mh's, best I could do, 96 watts, efficiency is what I like.


I found a pretty good efficient Hashrate/Watt of 0.55MH/W running the card at 1449MHz giving 75MH/s using 135W of power.

https://ibb.co/9bJN2jv

Thanks, this is what i like the most, efficiency. Now if only navi could get close to this result then we would have a winner, I think navi will close in around 49mh/s.

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The current drivers are absolute tosh. Teamred likely won't even bother getting anything out until they get a decent driver to work with.

It isn't true that the card doesn't undervolt well. At this stage it's only the driver (and Wattman) that's broken.

BDF (over at the VTC discord) was able to run his at same speed as a Vega64 with half the power draw. 140W, 830mV.



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Until we have a driver that's more than barely functional I don't think we're going to know what this beast is really capable of.
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Those you managed to put hands on some Radeon VII, may you please try the new pro drivers ? Some pro cards are Vegas, so that might work.

https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/firepro/win10-64bit-radeon-pro-software-enterprise-19.q1-feb5.exe


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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/aps02f/amds_clarification_regarding_pro_drivers_support/
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Ya'll still waiting on your R7s or are the results not worth reporting?

Would like to know current results on:
x16r (RVN)
Equihash 150.5 (Beam)
cuckaroo29, cuckaroo31 (GRiN)

Related hardware launched today: https://gpuminer.sapphiretech.com/Radeon-RX-570-16GB-Blockchain/
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Ya'll still waiting on your R7s or are the results not worth reporting?

Would like to know current results on:
x16r (RVN)
Equihash 150.5 (Beam)
cuckaroo29, cuckaroo31 (GRiN)

Related hardware launched today: https://gpuminer.sapphiretech.com/Radeon-RX-570-16GB-Blockchain/

Surely that doesn't stack up as a plan? No resale value, and you could get real gaming-capable 2070s for that price. Plus AMD miner software is pretty poor at teh moment as far as I can see...

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maybe when price drops but for 300 bucks you can buy 3 470/570 and i can get 87-92 hash at 300 watts.  Not worth it to me.

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Nicehash bench
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utFe_q76uEQ
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I dont know how you people get 2400-2700hs on monero v8 on default settings... i get 1800-1900 tops. on defaults. Wattaman all AUTO except FAN speeds, which are always 100% - share your setups... as of right now its vega64 for me for 750$...better have two vegas and get 4000hs for the same money.
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For those that have these in hand, where did you order from?

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For those that have these in hand, where did you order from?
Local store alza.cz in Czech republic, 7.2. at night ordered, 8.2. morning picked up. Luckily we are super poor people in this country and those 6 on stock was there few hours and I could buy two.
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Local store. but i have checked now they are sold out... ebay has those for like 900$+ seems like some people know something others dont... or perhaps its just a hype and speculation... the fact is seems like all stores are sold out now

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can someone please check hashrates on beam and grin? thanks Smiley
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can someone please check hashrates on beam and grin? thanks Smiley
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Got mine yesterday from AMD directly..

Poor results.. as reported above. It's a shame that we do not yet have miners that can take this to its full potential. I guess we will just have to wait (or resell on ebay Smiley ).

BTW: Grin at 4.6 (similar to my 1070!!) using GGM on Windows.
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Grin has always been poor on AMD - this is a suped up Vega, so it's not going to magically do better on algos that AMD is already bad on.

I think Lolliedb got one, so we'll see what he can come up with in his miner (esp after some driver updates).
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as soon as eth move to progpow then amd is done for within the crypto stratosphere hehe

I myself would want coin devs to develop a progpow idea into a new algorithm for amd gpus, nvidia took over already. I like the days when amd gpus were far more efficient than nvidia and yet far cheaper too. The way things are going, soon nvidia will price their gpus starting $500 entry level, $1000 midrange and $2000 - $4000 high end.

So far no other gpu beats rx 470 on ethash x efficiency.

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as soon as eth move to progpow then amd is done for within the crypto stratosphere hehe

I myself would want coin devs to develop a progpow idea into a new algorithm for amd gpus, nvidia took over already. I like the days when amd gpus were far more efficient than nvidia and yet far cheaper too. The way things are going, soon nvidia will price their gpus starting $500 entry level, $1000 midrange and $2000 - $4000 high end.

So far no other gpu beats rx 470 on ethash x efficiency.

Devs already said they are working on AMD optimizations for prog.
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I just got done with a bit of testing on my Radeon VII. I can confirm XMR V7 & V8 can be pushed to 2700-2800h/s (can be pushed near 3k if you have a well binned card that can undervolt better than mines) using SRBMiner. ETH my card can hit 93Mh/s. So far this card is very meh for mining. I would still go with vega 56s for cryptonight and polaris cards for ETH.

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What's your OS and your driver please ?
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I just got done with a bit of testing on my Radeon VII. I can confirm XMR V7 & V8 can be pushed to 2700-2800h/s (can be pushed near 3k if you have a well binned card that can undervolt better than mines) using SRBMiner. ETH my card can hit 93Mh/s. So far this card is very meh for mining. I would still go with vega 56s for cryptonight and polaris cards for ETH.

Are you talking about a stock Vega 56, or one modded to a 64?

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I just got done with a bit of testing on my Radeon VII. I can confirm XMR V7 & V8 can be pushed to 2700-2800h/s (can be pushed near 3k if you have a well binned card that can undervolt better than mines) using SRBMiner. ETH my card can hit 93Mh/s. So far this card is very meh for mining. I would still go with vega 56s for cryptonight and polaris cards for ETH.

Are you talking about a stock Vega 56, or one modded to a 64?



I dont know, im tempted to buy one. Blower style Vega 56 and 64 have bad coolers. Solder just melts then aluminium fins separates from copper base and throthling starts, or rig starts crashing. It is just the meter of time, it took about 6 months and 4 of my Vegas started to suffer from this. In Overdriventtool max temp was set to 65c and fan to 4900rpm and it still happend. So i took bad coolers off and put aio watercooler 120mm on few and arctic cooling air base cooler with 3 fans on one and temps are better then original, cards mining at least 6 months like that. Last one has gone bad few days ago so now im looking 240mm watercooler now for that caouse hot days are comming within few months and i want to test bigger aio Wink If Vega VII has better cooling solution, and it looks like it have then it is better card because of hasle of replacing the cooler, or rma-ing the card back in Germany in my case, bonus Vega VII hashes more and for same hashrate using 3 times less space if you compare it to 580rx because of tripple hashrate in eth Wink
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I just got done with a bit of testing on my Radeon VII. I can confirm XMR V7 & V8 can be pushed to 2700-2800h/s (can be pushed near 3k if you have a well binned card that can undervolt better than mines) using SRBMiner. ETH my card can hit 93Mh/s. So far this card is very meh for mining. I would still go with vega 56s for cryptonight and polaris cards for ETH.

Are you talking about a stock Vega 56, or one modded to a 64?



When it comes to mining you should always asume modded. My V56s can do 2050H/s @ 165W at the wall. My VII does 2800H/s @ ~230W or so. Not worth it in my opinion. I'll keep my V56/64 farm going. If they drop to around 500 USD then yea I'd go for it but with limited supply and @ 700USD it's very meh imo.

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Found on twitter:
https://twitter.com/BitsBeTrippin/status/1097235591798968320

"4 hour stream today of iteratively testing the @Radeon VII with beta driver 19.2.2 showed max of 92.6mh eth, 2982 h’s on XMR v8, 26.1mh on RVN, 2622 h’s on bittube and 4.63 gps on GRIN29"

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got mine in this weekend, anyone having any real luck w/ OC? lol this is such a classic amd release

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got mine in this weekend, anyone having any real luck w/ OC? lol this is such a classic amd release

3150-3200 on xmr is achievable. heat is a concern.
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Found on twitter:
https://twitter.com/BitsBeTrippin/status/1097235591798968320

"4 hour stream today of iteratively testing the @Radeon VII with beta driver 19.2.2 showed max of 92.6mh eth, 2982 h’s on XMR v8, 26.1mh on RVN, 2622 h’s on bittube and 4.63 gps on GRIN29"

Power draw: around 260W.
RVN no surprise, there's no good AMD miner yet anyway. ETH and XMR as expected, I think Teamred can extract more out of the VII's if they have time to do so (they might just ignore the current version as the fork is imminent anyway).

C29, meh. I'm however more interested in a good C31 figure if anyone can provide one. I expect this to be a lot better.



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anyone else have some good benchmarks to contribute? Will compile a list of everything over the next day or so
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got mine in this weekend, anyone having any real luck w/ OC? lol this is such a classic amd release

3150-3200 on xmr is achievable. heat is a concern.


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Found on twitter:
https://twitter.com/BitsBeTrippin/status/1097235591798968320

"4 hour stream today of iteratively testing the @Radeon VII with beta driver 19.2.2 showed max of 92.6mh eth, 2982 h’s on XMR v8, 26.1mh on RVN, 2622 h’s on bittube and 4.63 gps on GRIN29"

Power draw: around 260W.
RVN no surprise, there's no good AMD miner yet anyway. ETH and XMR as expected, I think Teamred can extract more out of the VII's if they have time to do so (they might just ignore the current version as the fork is imminent anyway).

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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.

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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.
Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?



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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.
Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.
Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).
Correct, which means you get hashrates that are higher for the same or less power draw. Nothing to be unhappy about... if it comes at the right price tag (which it doesn't, currently - but AMD has lowered prices on Vega GPUs fairly quickly, so with a bit of luck, the same will happen with Radeon VII).



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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.
Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

This, nothing new about it, actually i think vega 14nm is way more powerful given is 14nm and i dont think drivers will help it either. If it was a pure die shrink then monero was supposed to have hashrates around 4000mhs which is not the case. I'm a lot more interested in navi.

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Prices of the Radeon VII will drop, TMSC 7nm node will run at full capacity by the end of march. Vendors will adjust the price regarding the RTX2080 and it's a bear market for GPU sales.

Remember that mining softwares did noit exploit the Vega correctly for quite some times, then all came with a 10% boost on CN all of a sudden.

I really think with the huge mem bandwith, the radeon VII can render some dual algo mining very interesting again, like one with 60%/40% core/mem ressources used, another one 40% core 60% mem.
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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.
Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

This, nothing new about it, actually i think vega 14nm is way more powerful given is 14nm and i dont think drivers will help it either. If it was a pure die shrink then monero was supposed to have hashrates around 4000mhs which is not the case. I'm a lot more interested in navi.

There is no reason why Radeon VII cant hit 4k monero. Its doing 90MH eth. Something in the cryptonight kernel is not properly optimized to take advantage of the full bandwidth. Only other thing I can think of is that the algorithm is way more compute bound, so reduced number of cores is having a significant bottleneck.

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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.
Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

This, nothing new about it, actually i think vega 14nm is way more powerful given is 14nm and i dont think drivers will help it either. If it was a pure die shrink then monero was supposed to have hashrates around 4000mhs which is not the case. I'm a lot more interested in navi.

There is no reason why Radeon VII cant hit 4k monero. Its doing 90MH eth. Something in the cryptonight kernel is not properly optimized to take advantage of the full bandwidth. Only other thing I can think of is that the algorithm is way more compute bound, so reduced number of cores is having a significant bottleneck.

I think it's the 2nd.  Coz there is marginal improvement when HBM is ocd over 1150 or so.  Only increasing core freq boosts the hashrate.  So it's more likely core limited.  cnv8 is more compute heavier than cnv7.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-radeon-vii-16-gb.251935/page-21#post-3999343
New Atiflash inside Asus Radeon VII vbios update.

Power/voltage tweaks:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/67-amd/1633446-preliminary-view-amd-vega-bios-130.html

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So i managed to get 2800hs(stable) with peaking 2900hs with CASTXMR from GANDALPH3000 but could not get anything more than 2000 with xmrstack or xmrig...
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New Bios is out:
Old BIOS Version: 016.004.000.030.011639
New BIOS Version: 016.004.000.038.011717
https://www.amd.com/en/support/radeonvii-vbios-eula
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/atmrwv/radeon_vii_new_bios_v106_available/

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I also took the plunge. Pretty happy so far. I had some fun last night with with another subzero MN cold front. Was able to hit 100Mh on ETH. See video below:

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I also took the plunge. Pretty happy so far. I had some fun last night with with another subzero MN cold front. Was able to hit 100Mh on ETH. See video below:

https://youtu.be/tESw7vbTuq8
How much power tho
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On video games, it seems the Radeon VII works fine at 995-1000mV, much better average speed. Power draw is also better reduced this way. Should be worth giving it a try for Radeon VII while mining
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Anyone knows a Grin31 (Cuckatoo) miner for Radeon VII? I think it will be quite good at it because 16 GB VRAM.
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.
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I’m mining Beam on NiceHash with my Vega 7s right now. Is there a more profitable algo for them?


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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  . 

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Get a bios from a manufacturer, any will do (MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS), then flash it.

If you mod your bios, you have to use the "atikmdag-patcher-1.4.6" to allow your modded bios by the driver.

Then you may have to disable / re-eanable your GPU from win 10 control panel.

It was quite tricky to get my APU (Ryzen 2400G) working with the modded GPUs, but you should manage to do it with your VII.



I’m mining Beam on NiceHash with my Vega 7s right now. Is there a more profitable algo for them?

I think CN algos are more suited for the VII.
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I’m mining Beam on NiceHash with my Vega 7s right now. Is there a more profitable algo for them?

I think CN algos are more suited for the VII.

CN-r seems to be the one to mine then? I was having issues getting it to work using the 2 popular miners. I’ll have to try again soon.


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I’m mining Beam on NiceHash with my Vega 7s right now. Is there a more profitable algo for them?

I think CN algos are more suited for the VII.

CN-r seems to be the one to mine then? I was having issues getting it to work using the 2 popular miners. I’ll have to try again soon.
From what I've read around these forums, Radeon VII should be able to get over 3000 h/s quite easily. Note that Teamred haven't yet optimised their miner for Radeon VII's so there might be even more performance still to come.

GPU's still too expensive for my liking but hey.



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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.

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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


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I'm waiting for my 3 Sapphire this week  Grin
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?



Yes I flashed my two Vega 56's to 64 as well. But now you don't need to do that because you just play with power tables.

Well because I want efficency, my VII is hashing 2600 ~ 200 W, so sure it's more efficient than two 56s, but at much higher cost.
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Nice spreadsheet, thanks!
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Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.


I don't have VII, but any chance that it has dual VBIOS? Small switch for VBIOS switching? If Yes, second VBIOS should be in place safe from first flash and should be recognized when booted with.

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And thanks to you for completing it Wink

Why do you limit the max fan speed to 60% !?
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March 18, 2019, 05:54:07 PM
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?



Yes I flashed my two Vega 56's to 64 as well. But now you don't need to do that because you just play with power tables.

Well because I want efficency, my VII is hashing 2600 ~ 200 W, so sure it's more efficient than two 56s, but at much higher cost.


Nice one - any idea what your max hash/power was? Very tempted to pull the trigger, but no point if the efficiency isn't decent.  2600/200 isn't too bad...

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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  . 

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii. 
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?   

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

As op stated, it was an official BIOS update for the VII - it fixes some fan issues among other things, so i wouldn't exactly say there's 'no need' for the update.  Is it critical? no...




Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.


I don't have VII, but any chance that it has dual VBIOS? Small switch for VBIOS switching? If Yes, second VBIOS should be in place safe from first flash and should be recognized when booted with.

No dual bios on VIIs yet.




Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


56 -> 64 flash allows running higher mem clocks, but definitely not at lower power.  In fact it increases mem voltage by 100+mv.  It's not very useful if you are looking for efficient settings.

As for VII mining, CN and/or MW will probably be ideal in the future as miners are optimized, but currently it seems to me that ETH is best, as h/r is ~double a vega, w/ less than +50% power use.   I'm running ~ 215w (190 before including idle) for 82MHs - vs 158w for 45MHs on a 64.  CNV4 h/r is only ~50% better than vega atm.
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Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


56 -> 64 flash allows running higher mem clocks, but definitely not at lower power.  In fact it increases mem voltage by 100+mv.  It's not very useful if you are looking for efficient settings.

As for VII mining, CN and/or MW will probably be ideal in the future as miners are optimized, but currently it seems to me that ETH is best, as h/r is ~double a vega, w/ less than +50% power use.   I'm running ~ 215w (190 before including idle) for 82MHs - vs 158w for 45MHs on a 64.  CNV4 h/r is only ~50% better than vega atm.

What software are you using to mine CN-R on the Vega VII?


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Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


56 -> 64 flash allows running higher mem clocks, but definitely not at lower power.  In fact it increases mem voltage by 100+mv.  It's not very useful if you are looking for efficient settings.

As for VII mining, CN and/or MW will probably be ideal in the future as miners are optimized, but currently it seems to me that ETH is best, as h/r is ~double a vega, w/ less than +50% power use.   I'm running ~ 215w (190 before including idle) for 82MHs - vs 158w for 45MHs on a 64.  CNV4 h/r is only ~50% better than vega atm.

What software are you using to mine CN-R on the Vega VII?

I've not personally run it yet, as all reports I've seen are of 3.2 kh/s max - that's on SRB.  Teamredminer is my goto for CN, but they have yet to optimize VII, and all indications are that it runs more like 2.5 kh/s.  I just plugged in my first VII a couple days ago, so still have some comps to do.
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Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


56 -> 64 flash allows running higher mem clocks, but definitely not at lower power.  In fact it increases mem voltage by 100+mv.  It's not very useful if you are looking for efficient settings.

As for VII mining, CN and/or MW will probably be ideal in the future as miners are optimized, but currently it seems to me that ETH is best, as h/r is ~double a vega, w/ less than +50% power use.   I'm running ~ 215w (190 before including idle) for 82MHs - vs 158w for 45MHs on a 64.  CNV4 h/r is only ~50% better than vega atm.

What software are you using to mine CN-R on the Vega VII?

I've not personally run it yet, as all reports I've seen are of 3.2 kh/s max - that's on SRB.  Teamredminer is my goto for CN, but they have yet to optimize VII, and all indications are that it runs more like 2.5 kh/s.  I just plugged in my first VII a couple days ago, so still have some comps to do.

Keep us updated.  I tried a few miners real quick but nothing was stable, so I switched to mining Beam.  I suspect CN-R is the way to go with these GPUs, but it seems like the software has a little ways to go yet.


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finally ordered Powercolor VII few days back. Will separate a rig and put this card alone. Plan is to mine ETH with it. One of my criteria was to have least noisy card. From RX 580, I have found powercolor red devil to be least noisy and low temperature. Anyone have any recommendation between powercolor/sapphire or AMD version of Radeon VII ?
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finally ordered Powercolor VII few days back. Will separate a rig and put this card alone. Plan is to mine ETH with it. One of my criteria was to have least noisy card. From RX 580, I have found powercolor red devil to be least noisy and low temperature. Anyone have any recommendation between powercolor/sapphire or AMD version of Radeon VII ?

They are all exactly the same, there is no custom card.



Hello, what is your process to test and validate an OC and / or UV for mining?

Thanks!
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finally ordered Powercolor VII few days back. Will separate a rig and put this card alone. Plan is to mine ETH with it. One of my criteria was to have least noisy card. From RX 580, I have found powercolor red devil to be least noisy and low temperature. Anyone have any recommendation between powercolor/sapphire or AMD version of Radeon VII ?

They are all exactly the same, there is no custom card.

Distributors can rebuild or repackage their cards. Some do custom work by adding triple fans or using the standard set of double fans. So i disagee, the base GPU is the same model, but the distributor makes it unique/different.

From my experience, my Powercolor red devils (was running rx470s back then) were silent and never had any issues whatsoever.

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finally ordered Powercolor VII few days back. Will separate a rig and put this card alone. Plan is to mine ETH with it. One of my criteria was to have least noisy card. From RX 580, I have found powercolor red devil to be least noisy and low temperature. Anyone have any recommendation between powercolor/sapphire or AMD version of Radeon VII ?

They are all exactly the same, there is no custom card.

Distributors can rebuild or repackage their cards. Some do custom work by adding triple fans or using the standard set of double fans. So i disagee, the base GPU is the same model, but the distributor makes it unique/different.

From my experience, my Powercolor red devils (was running rx470s back then) were silent and never had any issues whatsoever.
What he is saying is that there is - currently - only one base model to choose from. There are only different brands selling the exact same reference design for now.

When AIBs have developped custom boards we'll see differences between them. But for now they're all the same card, regardless of which brand you go for.



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How many btc per day are you getting with 6 of these cards ? I am asking in a more specific way about nicehash. I have not the money yet but thinking to build a rig with my credit card and paying monthly. I need to know the btc return daily if anyone can.

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How many btc per day are you getting with 6 of these cards ? I am asking in a more specific way about nicehash. I have not the money yet but thinking to build a rig with my credit card and paying monthly. I need to know the btc return daily if anyone can.

You are looking at around 3 rx 570s for  1 radeon 7.

so 90mh/s  per card , for 6 cards  = 530 mh/s

power lets say 295 watts per card @ .10 cents per kwh

Atm you are looking at something like  7 usd per day mining eth, after power cost less then 2 dollars per day.

800 euro per card,  4800 euro  for 6 card.

so you are looking at over 2 years roi before the gpus have paid themselfes  at the current situation.

I did say atleast wait for navi and see how those cards perform before making a choice.
Just my 10 cents on the matter!
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How many btc per day are you getting with 6 of these cards ? I am asking in a more specific way about nicehash. I have not the money yet but thinking to build a rig with my credit card and paying monthly. I need to know the btc return daily if anyone can.

You are looking at around 3 rx 570s for  1 radeon 7.

so 90mh/s  per card , for 6 cards  = 530 mh/s

power lets say 295 watts per card @ .10 cents per kwh

Atm you are looking at something like  7 usd per day mining eth, after power cost less then 2 dollars per day.

800 euro per card,  4800 euro  for 6 card.

so you are looking at over 2 years roi before the gpus have paid themselfes  at the current situation.

I did say atleast wait for navi and see how those cards perform before making a choice.
Just my 10 cents on the matter!

not to mention if you're buying in Euros your power ain't gonna be .10 cents. In the UK it's more like .20pence, which eats all the profit.

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