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March 25, 2019, 12:00:17 AM
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In short they are not real dedicated development team but rather thieves. Made easy money out of other peoples' money. This tarnished and drag some good projects along with the bunch of scammers. Now investors are somewhat gone having bad experiences with shit ICO. 
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March 25, 2019, 12:42:16 AM
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it is wrong to believe that ICOs that have a successful sales,TGE, testnet,mainnet, ETC are been dump by bounty hunters and airdrops owners. whoever come up with that fact got it all wrong.
i strongly believed that TOKENs are been dump by the same investors that gained lots of bonus of their investment should be held responsible. Never and never will you put it on the hunters. it is business people. everyone wants to make money very quick.
My reason below:

A project minted one millions tokens and draws out plans for sales and distribution with this format:
50,000 for bounties and airdrops
700,000 for sales
100,000 for managers, ambassadors, legal team, and the rest.
150,000 for research, contest giveaways and probably burnt the remaining tokens and bla bla bla.
1 token= 0.001eth
minimum investment=0.1    therefore 0.1eth = 100 tokens
this is use case scenario)
ICO sales promises a tangible % of the minimum investment. eg 25% of what u invest) for 1st sales. if you invest, 1ETH, you get, 1000 token Plus 250 tokens= 1250 total.
                                                                                               10% of what you invest for 2nd sales. if you invest 1Eth, you get 1000 tokens plus 100 tokens = 1100 total

For the bounties and airdrops, there is every tendency that the highest earner for a bounty goes home with 2000 while the rest battles with the remaining 48,000 tokens.
there is also a probability that there will be left over at the end of the bounty distribution which the bounty manager sends back to the project owners.

it is very clear that this business is all about the more you invest, the high change of getting more tokens.I  believe that since an investor can spend over 5,6 or more eth to gain huge bonus from his investment.  he wastes no time selling off his goods immediately it hits the market and knowing perfectly well that he is on the profit.
EG
he spend 2 ETH  to get 2500 tokens. (500 tokens are bonus) . The token hits the market at the price of 0.0005eth if we can start from that price.
he choose to sell back 2200 tokens at 0.000987 to get 2.1736ETHEREUM.
He gains 0.1736 from this sales and still a  left over of 300 tokens in his wallet.
There is a probabilty that the price might go up. he might sell if he wishes or he can keep for the long term strategy.

While a bounty hunter that earns an average of 1,200 to 800 tokens manages to sell off at 0.000987 (if he earn 1200) to get 1.184eth which covers stress time, internet bills and miscellaneous stuff.

Also remember that while an investor is free to DUMP off his token and move on to another project, the hunter's token is luck up for months.

SO i believed that tokens are dumped in the market by the same investors once they are sure of profit in order to move to the next ico in the market. Not the bounty hunters or airdrop holders.




I don't think that bounty hunter has something big thing to do about it. It is not enough to say that bounty hunters sell the tokens that's why it dump, well, see the percentage of investment and selling, as well as bounty allocation, the percentage for bounty is too small.
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March 25, 2019, 01:34:26 AM
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The huge bonuses given by the companies to their presale investors or large holders is. Most of the time pre sale buyers would get about 20% at most more tokens when they bought in the presale.

Its true, many people blame bounty hunters but i think hunters is not main factor why the price drop after listing in exchanger. Pre-Sale investor have huge bonus and discount, i think they just want making quick profits by selling their coin/token
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March 26, 2019, 01:15:59 AM
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because all bounty hunters immediately sell all of their tokens together, and what's worse is that after the ico ends, no one buys even though the ico is successful. if the method is considered to cause a large dumb, it is better to pay using USD only for hunter bounties.

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March 27, 2019, 01:11:25 PM
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In short they are not real dedicated development team but rather thieves. Made easy money out of other peoples' money. This tarnished and drag some good projects along with the bunch of scammers. Now investors are somewhat gone having bad experiences with shit ICO. 
I this case, the project team are not even the problem but the investors that claim to join the community of a particular project and end up dumping the coin once it enters exchange and they see any little profit climb on it but like you still said, I will still say that projects too have their own issue, if the project is a good one and it has a very good product to speak for it.

I believe it won’t become shitcoins easily like that since it is still not every investors that will dump the coin or do so at the same time, so many of these projects team really need to be up and doing if they want the project to be a successful one and not be dumped easily.
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March 27, 2019, 01:13:56 PM
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I think that most times is just because of the huge discounts given during presale. People can sell their coins once in exchange at ICO price and lower and still earn money, so that the reason why the tokens are dumped IMO.
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March 27, 2019, 01:16:22 PM
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Of course because of the hunters is one of the cause for the dumping the token even the project is very potential but not all is because of hunters even the investors of thw ICO maybe they sell their coin who purchased more than months ago so they will earn now money.
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March 27, 2019, 02:07:09 PM
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I think it is because of the early investors dumping their token right after it has been listed.
I don't think that there are any other reason or answer to this unless the team are dumping it .
The price drop are only happening because of the lack of demand as you can see once it is listed there is no one that wants to buy them.

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March 27, 2019, 02:15:10 PM
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the factor that often causes hunters to throw out tokens that have a successful ICO is the lack of knowledge of the hunters, besides that the reason they throw the token is because the project from the token does not have good progress.

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March 27, 2019, 02:50:20 PM
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So far, almost all tokens or coins from crypto will be always dumped after a successful ICO and listed on the certain exchange.
There are some probabilities:
1. Listed on low exchange
2. The strategy of certain people to make it down and collect more tokens
3. Selling out the tokens at a low price because they feel afraid that the token will not be able to grow
4. The team management with bad quality and control to promote more about the tokens.
and there are still many more reasons, moreover, during this bear market.

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March 27, 2019, 03:52:10 PM
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because all bounty hunters immediately sell all of their tokens together, and what's worse is that after the ico ends, no one buys even though the ico is successful. if the method is considered to cause a large dumb, it is better to pay using USD only for hunter bounties.
If you look closely at the illustration mate, you will realize that the percentage of token given to the hunters is very little compared to what is being circulated to investors, even if bounty hunters dump their tokens at once, it should not have major effect on the coin. How many coins are even being distributed to them compared to what investors are holding and moreover, they worked for it and if they decide to cash it out, they have no blame because a laborer is worthy of their wages.

If the project team was to pay their staff the amount given to the hunters, are you saying it is justified to say payment of salary will bring about collapse of the company, so all projects should be up and running and stop putting their laziness or lack of further ideas to push the project forward on their workers (bounty hunters).

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March 27, 2019, 03:57:54 PM
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the developer and team can't handle the community
they should give them some benefit for holding the coin/token
many hit and run investor this day, so no wonder why ico can't stay on ico price, most of them down below ico price
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March 27, 2019, 04:05:35 PM
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The problem is probably not to sell all tokens at once. It is necessary to leave interest among people. If you are able to keep this interest, then investors will be very happy to see price increases after the tokens reach the stock exchange.
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March 27, 2019, 04:19:40 PM
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Many of the point is true but you also need to know that hunters too contribute immensely to the dumping of token. In fact, there are many hunters that are also investors so the dumping is from both side. Above all from my experience, I have also noticed that some project dev deliberately dump token in order to crash the price. Also rate of dumping can also be influenced by the listing exchange itself. from my own view 95% of token listed on exchange platform such as Latoken always end up hurribly dumped.
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March 27, 2019, 04:27:15 PM
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SO i believed that tokens are dumped in the market by the same investors once they are sure of profit in order to move to the next ico in the market. Not the bounty hunters or airdrop holders.

Many investors and hunters are dumpers, it's just a matter of who were able to sell first. Let us make that clear here. 
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March 28, 2019, 11:46:13 AM
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I don't think this is a debatable question to ask in this forum because I am very sure we all know the answer to this question.

One of the major cause of coin dumping after successful ICO project is airdrop, a lot of persons are given coins for free for just filling up a form and unlike those that made purchase of this coins, they don't actually know the value of the coin or token and don't care about the rate they dump it in the market since they never bought the coin and any rate they dump the coin on exchange will still yield profit for them.

When a real product based ICO will not bother about dumping as there would be enough investors to keep pumping on the other end. At the same time, a real product based ICO does not need to airdrop tokens but just a well written whitepaper itself more than enough to get supporters on board.
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March 28, 2019, 12:33:31 PM
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It seems to me that this happens only because of the fact that people are very gregarious effect. Everyone will do it and I will, they will throw off everything and I will fold it out of it and the token will fall to the bottom.

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March 28, 2019, 12:48:33 PM
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As already mentioned, there are a lot of reasons for falling, as it turns out today, a lot of people believe that cryptocurrency is probably one of the most volatile areas. I think that investors are now of little interest in holding tokens.
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March 28, 2019, 12:51:59 PM
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When a token really don't have much value as which is sold on the ICO sale will cause the tokens to be dumped most of the time.

Many people investing on the ICOs for short term profits so price will get dump when token is available on exchanges.

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March 28, 2019, 12:59:56 PM
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The current investor model is the most important advantage quickly and they are not too interested in a projeck later, because of course they will quickly discard the token when they have already made a profit and are looking for a new one.
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