Green New Deal

[coins4commies]

This isn't a new idea.  Its a very old idea even though MSM is acting like AOC created it.  The policies are all based on extensive research and most of them have been successfully put into practice in other places.  The new resolution is almost word for word the same as the one used as the green party platform from 2012 and 2016.  It was polling nationally at 81% last month. 

Here is a copy of the resolution framework as well as a FAQ that the fakenews media is using as the resolution.

Resolution framework: https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

FAQ: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5729035/Green-New-Deal-FAQ.pdf

The FAQ has created controversy because it contained some language that wasn't in the resolution.  Specifically the phrase "unwilling to work" which corporate media has, of course, taken and ran with it.  Some articles are basically reporting that phrase, which isn't in the resolution, as the entire resolution.  

https://www.google.com/search?q=unwilling+to+work&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEw4yzwK_gAhWIhFQKHUVbBysQ_AUIDygC&biw=960&bih=439

[TECSHARE]

hahaha "extensive research".

Even her own party is already shitting on the plan. This plan is insane, she is insane, and you are even more insane for supporting it.

[coins4commies]

I've supported it since 2012 because it is the only plan available that gives us a chance at avoiding the impending climate catastrophe.  You say it is insane but have no reasoning for calling it insane. I know you deny climate science, but like the new deal, these stimulus proposals are economically viable regardless of weather or not there was an impending catastrophe. 

Of course the corporate-backed democratic party establishment doesn't support it.   Instead of that statement, you might as well just say "the fossil fuel, pharmaceutical, and insurance lobbies don't even support it" because thats what it means.  The Pelosi style democrats are in a tough spot not only because of donor pressure, but because accepting the right path forward would require them to admit their course of action during the Obama years was problematic and even harmful. 

They also don't see a need to accomplish anything in order to win elections.  Their calculation is that they only need to be slightly left of republicans to keep office but that calculation is wrong and failed miserably in 2016.   This new wave of democrats with green party ideology is transforming the party.  There are over 60 co sponsors on this bill.  It will be THEE issue in 2020 and I expect a dozen or so more AOC's entering congress.

[TECSHARE]

I've supported it since 2012 because it is the only plan available that gives us a chance at avoiding the impending climate catastrophe.  You say it is insane but have no reasoning for calling it insane. I know you deny climate science, but like the new deal, these stimulus proposals are economically viable regardless of weather or not there was an impending catastrophe. 

Of course the corporate-backed democratic party establishment doesn't support it.   Instead of that statement, you might as well just say "the fossil fuel, pharmaceutical, and insurance lobbies don't even support it" because thats what it means.  The Pelosi style democrats are in a tough spot not only because of donor pressure, but because accepting the right path forward would require them to admit their course of action during the Obama years was problematic and even harmful. 

They also don't see a need to accomplish anything in order to win elections.  Their calculation is that they only need to be slightly left of republicans to keep office but that calculation is wrong and failed miserably in 2016.   This new wave of democrats with green party ideology is transforming the party.  There are over 60 co sponsors on this bill.  It will be THEE issue in 2020 and I expect a dozen or so more AOC's entering congress.

"deny climate science" = expecting empirical data to support a scientific position

What revolutionaries you are for making a list of things that everyone wants with no real plan to get there. Just calling it viable doesn't magically make it so just like printing more money is not "Modern Monetary Theory", it is just inflation and theft. This "new wave" are low information high moral grandstanding true believers selling rebranded Communism.

[Spendulus]

I've supported it since 2012 because it is the only plan available that gives us a chance at avoiding the impending climate catastrophe.  ....

The plan is the catastrophe, not the climate.

[BADecker]

This isn't a new idea.  Its a very old idea even though MSM is acting like AOC created it.

So that's why it is green. It's so old that it is moldy.

 

[TECSHARE]

This isn't a new idea.  Its a very old idea even though MSM is acting like AOC created it.

So that's why it is green. It's so old that it is moldy.

 

It used to be red, but they are rebranding.

[Spendulus]

I've supported it since 2012 because it is the only plan available that gives us a chance at avoiding the impending climate catastrophe.  You say it is insane but have no reasoning for calling it insane. I know you deny climate science, but like the new deal, these stimulus proposals are economically viable regardless of weather or not there was an impending catastrophe.......

I honestly do not think you are on a winning bandwagon with this one.

[Quickseller]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years).

Trump seems to think AOC and democrats should move forward with the Green New Deal

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1094375749279248385

I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called “Carbon Footprint” to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas & the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!
6:21 PM · Feb 9, 2019 · Twitter for iPhonE

[TECSHARE]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years).

Trump seems to think AOC and democrats should move forward with the Green New Deal

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1094375749279248385

I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called “Carbon Footprint” to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas & the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!
6:21 PM · Feb 9, 2019 · Twitter for iPhonE

Why interrupt your opponent when they are making an error?

[BADecker]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years).

Trump seems to think AOC and democrats should move forward with the Green New Deal

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1094375749279248385

I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called “Carbon Footprint” to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas & the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!
6:21 PM · Feb 9, 2019 · Twitter for iPhonE

Why interrupt your opponent when they are making an error?

Especially with an interruption that might take you into their socialism if you push it hard enough.

 

[Spendulus]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years). .....

Wait...

What would happen to all my frequent flyer miles?

[BADecker]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years). .....

Wait...

What would happen to all my frequent flyer miles?

They have a few electric planes, and electric turbines are being developed. And we can get electricity from nuclear, water, and solar.

You will be able to keep all your frequent flyer miles... except if you use them, of course.

[Quickseller]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years).

Trump seems to think AOC and democrats should move forward with the Green New Deal

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1094375749279248385

I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called “Carbon Footprint” to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas & the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!
6:21 PM · Feb 9, 2019 · Twitter for iPhonE

Why interrupt your opponent when they are making an error?

This is never going to be put for a vote, as it is dead on arrival in the House. Pelosi has publicly said what amounts to that it will not be put to a vote, and she is smart enough to not put it to a vote based on the amount of ridicule it is receiving alone.

Trump is wanting to give this as much attention it can get to highlight the extremism on the left.

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years). .....

Wait...

What would happen to all my frequent flyer miles?

They would get redistributed to those with less. The miles would not be good for anything though.   

[OgNasty]

My favorite part is where they say it provides economic security for all, even those unwilling to work.

The Green New Deal is the most fantasyland proposal I’ve ever personally seen proposed seriously in government.

BUY BITCOIN!

[Spendulus]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years).

Trump seems to think AOC and democrats should move forward with the Green New Deal

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1094375749279248385

I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called “Carbon Footprint” to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas & the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!
6:21 PM · Feb 9, 2019 · Twitter for iPhonE

Why interrupt your opponent when they are making an error?

I would like to do my part. One steak a day and 2x/day on weekends would be doing my part to reduce the cow population.

Will THE PLAN pay for these?

[OgNasty]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years). .....

Wait...

What would happen to all my frequent flyer miles?

They have a few electric planes, and electric turbines are being developed. And we can get electricity from nuclear, water, and solar.

You will be able to keep all your frequent flyer miles... except if you use them, of course.

Yes, they will, “need to invent technology that's never even been invented yet.”

EDIT: Nuclear power is also not allowed with the Green New Deal.

[Spendulus]

It is effectively trying to outlaw the use of Airplanes (no fossil fuels after 10 years). .....

Wait...

What would happen to all my frequent flyer miles?

They have a few electric planes, and electric turbines are being developed. And we can get electricity from nuclear, water, and solar.

You will be able to keep all your frequent flyer miles... except if you use them, of course.

Yes, they will, “need to invent technology that's never even been invented yet.”

EDIT: Nuclear power is also not allowed with the Green New Deal.

Okay, but I would like to be placed in charge of getting rid of all the Evil Farting Cows. I will cut them up into juicy steaks, and these will form the basis for a underworld crypto currency to finance the rebellion.

Based on Proof of Steak.

[eddie13]

In my opinion the entire "Man Made Global Warming" debacle is an ingenious ploy traceable all the way up to those seeking ultimate power by creating a one world government.

At many stages it has attempted global wealth redistribution, to weaken the west and win the hearts of potential benefactor nations.
It attempts to destroy the economies of the west, making us spend money on nonsense to make us more poor so we are easier to take over.
It attempts to make us use less energy, making us weaker and easier to take over.

The CO2 theory is completely debunked in my opinion.



CO2 right now is very low compared to the history of the earth and does not correlate to historical tempature.

Infact CO2 correlates well with historical plant growth. At times in our earths history when CO2 was high/higher the earth had much more lush vegetation. Our CO2 is so low right now that plants are barely surviving compared to history.

CO2 as a greenhouse gas is also minuscule compared to other gasses in out atmosphere, most importantly water vapor.  

AGW is nothing but a scare tactic political weapon.

[BADecker]

^^^ The scare tactic idea is the simple idea.

The wealthy who are causing the chemtrails to be sprayed, so that the earth cools down even more, are doing it to get rid of people. The Georgia Guidestones show that there are people who are promoting depopulation of the world - https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-georgia-guidestones/. Promoting CO2 and global warming would cause the population to grow.