UFC on ESPN 1: Ngannou vs Velasquez Prediction and Info Thread

[eaLiTy]

Ngannou beats Velasquez in 25 secs. Velasquez leg slipped and his knee gave out. Thats just hard luck for him for that to happen so early into the match.

Francis Ngannou clipped him with a good jab and it looked like Caine Velasquez injured his knee and took a good upper cut and finished the fight in the first round, Francis is an animal with real big power and with this fight we never know when Velasquez will be back as i am sure he slipped his knee during this fight and he will take another couple of years until he comes back.

I'm surprised you guys aren't talking about Kron Gracie's debut in the UFC.
He is the son of Rickson and a former Jiu Jitsu world champion. Hi MMA record is 4-0.
Still young also at 30 years old.

He was having the lineage but he is still raw in MMA but he is a good ground fighter but not championship material right now, he won the fight in the first round via submission but with opponents getting better with good striking then it will be a challenge for him if he did not pick up his standing game.

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[samcrypto]

Ngannou beats Velasquez in 25 secs. Velasquez leg slipped and his knee gave out. Thats just hard luck for him for that to happen so early into the match. Was pretty much a flawless victory for Ngannou. He might be ready to fight again next week..by the looks of things lol. Hope the future hall of fame star Velasques looked just fine during the end at the interview. Hopefully we get to see him fight again soon.

An easy win for Ngannou and looks like he really prepared for this fight, Velasquez can do a lot if he was able to depend himself and stand for at least another round. Well, this is just a short playing time but I enjoyed the fight. Hopefully they will face each other again, Velasquez is still a good fighter.

[crzy]

I was expected on this result since Ngannou is more active compare to Velasquez who left the court two years ago, nevertheless its indeed a good fight. Maybe Ngannou wants this win more compare to Velasquez, luckily my bet is on the right side. Congrats to both of this fighter for a great show, the next fight of Ngannou will be more interesting to me.

[btc_angela]

I was expected on this result since Ngannou is more active compare to Velasquez who left the court two years ago, nevertheless its indeed a good fight. Maybe Ngannou wants this win more compare to Velasquez, luckily my bet is on the right side. Congrats to both of this fighter for a great show, the next fight of Ngannou will be more interesting to me.

Did you really watch the fight? How can you call it a good fight when it ended in a bizarre way? Yes, Francis is more active but it's more of the knee of Cain Velasquez giving out. Yes he was clipped but I don't think it really did a lot of damage. Cain can't protect himself and his knee and the referee stop the fight. It's just sad to see cardio Cain exiting like this and it seems his UFC best days are over.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Here is Velasquez's post fight interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9zEqbClurE

He explains what happened to his knee. I love him as a fighter, he's such a humble guy. I really hope Dana will give him a rematch against Ngannou.

EDIT: Here is a better video showing that Ngannou didn't even properly hit him. You can clearly see he injured his knee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqy5cvLKymk&feature=youtu.be

[NavI_027]

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Did you really watch the fight? How can you call it a good fight when it ended in a bizarre way? Yes, Francis is more active but it's more of the knee of Cain Velasquez giving out. Yes he was clipped but I don't think it really did a lot of damage. Cain can't protected himself and his knee and the referee stop the fight. It's just sad to see cardio Cain exiting like this and it seems his UFC best days are over.

Honestly, I was very shocked not only of the results (since I expect Velazquez to win) but also on how fast it ends. 26 secs, Ngannou just take 26 secs. to knock him out! :O. Actually, at first I thought that he get hurt on the counter punch but after the camera focused on Velasquez' knee it's pretty obvious that there's something wrong — his left knee dislocated I think. Knowing this, I'm a little bit upset because i can see in Velasquz' eyes that he can still fight but not allowed anymore because of the injury .
I just wonder why the judges take it as a knockout and not a technical knockout, hmm. For me that was a bad decision.

[Betwrong]

I too was rooting for Velasquez. It's a great pity that this freak accident happened to him in the very beginning of the fight. Nobody is immune to accidents, but we always wish they don't happen to people we root for.

"It was just a knee, yeah. I mean, he didn't even like touch me" - says Cain Velasquez at the Post-Fight Press Conference, and I believe him. I think Velasquez deserves a refight.

[tokeweed]

^  He's saying he didn't eat an uppercut that buckled his knee?  Lol.  I think he needs to watch the replay.

Anyway some great fights in the event.  Luque vs Barbarena, Gracie vs Caceres and Vick vs Felder were really great fights.  Looking forward to see more of Kron Gracie.  I hope he gets a crack vs somebody at the top 10 soon.

[seoincorporation]

I told you guys Ngannou was the easy money, still can't believe he was the underdog. Velasques was bumped by UFC but his time is over, he isn't a good fighter anymore. #SadButTrue

Now let's wait another 3 years for the next Velasquez fight.

[kenzawak]

Fuck I hate it when a fight ends like that. Now everybody's gonna praise Ngannou and trash Velasquez when there was actually no fight.
Velasquez deserves better than this.

I'm surprised you guys aren't talking about Kron Gracie's debut in the UFC.
He is the son of Rickson and a former Jiu Jitsu world champion. Hi MMA record is 4-0.
Still young also at 30 years old.

He was having the lineage but he is still raw in MMA but he is a good ground fighter but not championship material right now, he won the fight in the first round via submission but with opponents getting better with good striking then it will be a challenge for him if he did not pick up his standing game.

I'm a big fan of the "ground fighting" era, the one with the Gracies, Shamrocks...and I for one believe that if MMA evolved that way it's because everything was done for it (no time limits, weight categories, striking rules...). For me the best fighters are still the ones that fight like Couture, Khabib (different from Couture but still a ground fighter), not like McGregor, Liddell... so yeah I believe Kron can do well in the UFC. 5 MMA fights, 5 submissions. It's just a shame that his first UFC fight was against a very average fighter.

[mich]

This fight was a fluke and hopefully the UFC doesnt give Cardio Cain the spotlight anytime soon.
He always seems to blow it on the biggest stages- first vs JDS and now this.
Injuries over the years ruined this mans chances at amounting to greatness.

[Yaunfitda]

I told you guys Ngannou was the easy money, still can't believe he was the underdog. Velasques was bumped by UFC but his time is over, he isn't a good fighter anymore. #SadButTrue

Now let's wait another 3 years for the next Velasquez fight.

Oh well, Dana White wanted to bring the real "heavy weight' division again, sadly, it back fired as Cain was just a his former self.

I don't know, for me Cain will have to undergo a lot, physically and mentally to be able to come back again and I'm not seeing it in the next 2-3 years.

[Betwrong]

^  He's saying he didn't eat an uppercut that buckled his knee?  Lol.  I think he needs to watch the replay.
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Yesterday I watched a slow motion video of the fight, which has been deleted by now, where they were saying that knee gave out on Velasquez before the uppercut. They were so convincing that I believed them, especially after watching that Velasquez was saying the same thing at the post-fight press conference. But now, after rewatching the fight several times, and after watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T90t16TM2TI&t


I agree with you, it was the uppercut that knocked him out.

[kenzawak]

I agree with you, it was the uppercut that knocked him out.

Well technically, it only knocked him down (and that's if the uppercut really touched him) and the knee issue prevented him from defending himself which is why the ref stopped the fight.
Had the knee not given out, the fight might have gone on. We'll never know.

[NavI_027]

Fuck I hate it when a fight ends like that. Now everybody's gonna praise Ngannou and trash Velasquez when there was actually no fight.
Velasquez deserves better than this.

Yeah! But well, that was a clean fight so who are we to complain? What ever reason why Velazquez got beaten up whether because of a hard punch or a knee injury, one thing is for sure, Ngannou didn't cheat in order to win so he absolutely deserve a respect

I'm a big fan of the "ground fighting" era, the one with the Gracies, Shamrocks...

Me too because I'm already bored of one punch KOs. For me it's more exciting to watch on how fighters doing various techniques to make their opponent tap out (sounds like a sadist but I don't mean it) and my favorites among them are twister, guillotine and arm lock.

For me the best fighters are still the ones that fight like Couture, Khabib (different from Couture but still a ground fighter), not like McGregor, Liddell...

Hey, Where's Royce Gracie and St. Pierre? Lol just kidding, I respect your taste .

[kenzawak]

Hey, Where's Royce Gracie and St. Pierre?

At the top of the top obviously !  

[kenzawak]

I watched the Bellator 216 fights.

The Kongo fight was disappointing. He didn't do much and didn't deserve to win this one (unanimous decision). But I guess they need a contender for Bader (I'm French so there's no subjectivity in what I'm saying).

Cro Cop vs. Big Country Nelson was tight. I had Nelson winning... and they gave it to Cro Cop lol.

MVP vs. Daley was boooring in the first round and got me really worried at first. Watching two guys walk around the octagon forever is not what I wanna see in a fight. The boos from the crowd were well deserved. Then it got much better and the fight became very tactical (Daley trying to go to the ground and MVP trying to strike). Daley was more active but the fight was close and MVP took some good shots, especially in the 4th and 5th where I believe he won the fight.

Anyway, it's always fun to watch some of those "older", sometimes legendary fighters even if their age definitely shows.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

I told you guys Ngannou was the easy money, still can't believe he was the underdog. Velasques was bumped by UFC but his time is over, he isn't a good fighter anymore. #SadButTrue

Now let's wait another 3 years for the next Velasquez fight.

It was not an easy money before the fight, i had my doubts only because Velasquez is coming back after a long lay back and it is not that easy to take the big Ngannou down from the start, the reason i had a doubt with Ngannou is only because of their great match up between Derrick Lewis which ended up as the least strikes thrown in the history of UFC. You cannot judge Velasquez by the time he spent inside the cage now, one more fight and then we can judge whether he has to stop fighting.

[Theb]

Ngannou beats Velasquez in 25 secs. Velasquez leg slipped and his knee gave out. Thats just hard luck for him for that to happen so early into the match. Was pretty much a flawless victory for Ngannou. He might be ready to fight again next week..by the looks of things lol. Hope the future hall of fame star Velasques looked just fine during the end at the interview. Hopefully we get to see him fight again soon.

I have the same thought as you that Cain Velasquez unluckily slipped that made him lose the fight on but after watching the replay over and over again I saw that Ngannou landed several punches in his head when he was pushed to the corner and that I think made him unconscious for a second which made his legs slip. Also Jason Herzog gave Cain time to recover but he had not chance to do so when he chose to turn his back on Ngannou. And it seems like I was right with my prediction on choosing Ngannou in this fight.

Let's not forget that Francis Ngannou knock the hell out of Alistair Overeem's chin with his uppercut in the first two minutes of the first round. All of his wins are either via KO or submission during the first or second round and all his losses came from UDs which means that this guy is really a hunter and he would do whatever is takes to finish the fight early. I don't think that Cain Velasquez could handle him pretty well specially that he is coming out from retirement,  we really don't know what his fight conditions are if he has the stamina to keep up with Ngannou.

[bbc.reporter]

I reckon Dana might have a new storyboard from Cain's unlucky conclusion. Francis Ngannou versus Daniel Cormier, the revenge for Cain.

Cain and Daniel are close friends and training partners in the American Kickboxing Academy. Francis wants his next fight to be for the championship. Daniel wants to avenge his friend. Dana is already counting how much pay per views he can sell hehehehehe.