Unelectric Bitcoin Society

[Midas111]

it is very pleasant if there is such a delivery, and I am very supportive of sending it as far as possible without electricity.

Yes I am too, the goal is not so much to hand or mail a paper key but to transmit it between two parties directly as far as possible using no electricity. It is the send receive portion that has to us no electricity to qualify.

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[Midas111]

If there is a prefunded bitcoin wallet then you only need to give a private key to the other person. Write it on a piece of paper and take a long walk, give it to the other person but they can't validate it without electricity

IMO handing a paper wallet has a 0 distance factor and would not qualify. hmmm using binoculars to receive from a distance would but probably could be beat in distance by  more creative members of the unelectric bitcoin society

[Midas111]

Is stuff like this even necessary?

Probably not. But as a thought experiment, it could be quite entertaining.
Most obvious choice would be to use snail-mail right? But that's just boring, I guess OP wants something more extraordinary.
So how about music? I mean rhythms, big-ass bells, gongs or war drums?
Should do the trick, problem is that any bystander can hear this, using some sort of cipher would be required.
There is also pigeon mail...   ridiculous but may work quite fast, although eagles or hawks may hunt your courier down  
Nevertheless electricity will be mandatory at some point, no escape. Besides when we loose the electrical grid worldwide, bitcoins will be the last thing we would worry about.
And as my predecessor NeuroticFish said, there is also an issue with trust.

oh yah some big giant drums are perfect, even the rythm can help with decoding the seed, this is the best one yet!

[Midas111]

Is stuff like this even necessary?

Probably not. But as a thought experiment, it could be quite entertaining.
Most obvious choice would be to use snail-mail right? But that's just boring, I guess OP wants something more extraordinary.
So how about music? I mean rhythms, big-ass bells, gongs or war drums?
Should do the trick, problem is that any bystander can hear this, using some sort of cipher would be required.
There is also pigeon mail...   ridiculous but may work quite fast, although eagles or hawks may hunt your courier down  
Nevertheless electricity will be mandatory at some point, no escape. Besides when we loose the electrical grid worldwide, bitcoins will be the last thing we would worry about.
And as my predecessor NeuroticFish said, there is also an issue with trust.

You have made the grade poptok for your idea of sending bitcoin using acoustic drums

you are now graduated from prospect to official member of the Unelectric Bitcoin Society, Brilliant!

[voltesbit777]

The unelectric bitcoin society  



The pursuit of sending the farthest possible Bitcoin transfer using no electricity

Generally one idea is to send a seed of a prefunded wallet without using electricity.
If anyone would like to join or participate, Post your ideas for unelectric bitcoin transfers , then do it post pics links or info in this thread.

Ideas could be using

light flashes
fire,
smoke,
Whats your  idea?

etc to get the furthest possible zero energy transfers of actual bitcoin directly between 2 people



credit goes to this dude :  https://twitter.com/DCLcoins/status/1095848786121887744?s=20

Bitcoin was a digital form of currency just like credit card where both are being used as electronic payment. Without the participation of the electricity bitcoin and credit card will be both useless. So I don't think there will be other way for it.

[sopanbmp]

it's not possible in my opinion  Bitcoin is Electricity stuff. until now Human can't even find solution for changing fuel oil or gas energy, only electricity that can be used. Fire, water, smoke, etc it just material to produce electricity. Need more than centurys to find that technology . maybe biogas can be a solution for saving energy purpose.

[Midas111]

it's not possible in my opinion  Bitcoin is Electricity stuff. until now Human can't even find solution for changing fuel oil or gas energy, only electricity that can be used. Fire, water, smoke, etc it just material to produce electricity. Need more than centurys to find that technology . maybe biogas can be a solution for saving energy purpose.

We have determined that sending bitcoin using no electricity is in fact completely possible,  the pursuit of the unelectic bitcoin society is to, in reality, send bitcoin the farthest possible distance using no electricity. Those who say impossible are incorrect and still can not wrap their mind around such a thing, those who have good ideas can join the society

[poptok1]

You have made the grade poptok for your idea of sending bitcoin using acoustic drums
you are now graduated from prospect to official member of the Unelectric Bitcoin Society, Brilliant!

Hooray!  I'm a MUBTCS now, it's official 
For your information, I'm also a member of electric universe society but i think those two are not mutually exclusive titles
I'll be wearing this palm with pride, Member of Unelectric BTC Society, ah sounds electrifying (pun intended).
Bonny and congenial topic, it's OK to have fun once in a while.   

[BestSSS]

But this is simply not possible !!! How do you want to transfer bitcoins without electricity and without using the network if you need access to the Internet and network operation?
Bitcoin is not radio waves and encrypted signals, everything you say is a fantasy.

[Midas111]

But this is simply not possible !!! How do you want to transfer bitcoins without electricity and without using the network if you need access to the Internet and network operation?
Bitcoin is not radio waves and encrypted signals, everything you say is a fantasy.

Its totally possible to send and resend as many times as people would like at will without electricity. Its only when cashing out or transferring to a different wallet that any electricity needs to be used. So bitcoin may be utitlzed with no electricty and only cashed out by the one who logs in and therby consumes the unelectric bitcoin by using electricity.

Hopefully there will be some member of the Unelectric Bitcoin Society who will post details of real life unelectric bitcoin transfers in the future, pics? videos? anecdotes, all are welcome

[Midas111]

You have made the grade poptok for your idea of sending bitcoin using acoustic drums
you are now graduated from prospect to official member of the Unelectric Bitcoin Society, Brilliant!

Hooray!  I'm a MUBTCS now, it's official 
For your information, I'm also a member of electric universe society but i think those two are not mutually exclusive titles
I'll be wearing this palm with pride, Member of Unelectric BTC Society, ah sounds electrifying (pun intended).
Bonny and congenial topic, it's OK to have fun once in a while.   

Yep its all about having fun and pushing the boundaries of what is possible, although there may be some real world usage that comes from the society pursuit

[Midas111]

got a cool link for a MUBS badge

[Midas111]

Ideas could be using

light flashes
fire,
smoke,
Whats your  idea?

Let's not go full cavemen, ok?
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Is stuff like this even necessary?
But yeah I'm pretty sure the cited tweet was being sarcastic lol.

No and yes!  ;DBtw, OP, any ideas on how to encrypt those smoke signals?

simplest would be to modify morse code for purpose

[pixie85]

This idea is bad on so many levels. Like how would you ensure that nobody else sees your light or smoke signals. Morse code? It's also visible to everyone within range.
At some point this has to be placed in the blockchain to prevent double spending. How are you going to do that without electricity?
Why no electricity in the first place? You are using it every day to access the Internet why all of a sudden go against it being used to transfer money?

[Midas111]

This idea is bad on so many levels. Like how would you ensure that nobody else sees your light or smoke signals. Morse code? It's also visible to everyone within range.
At some point this has to be placed in the blockchain to prevent double spending. How are you going to do that without electricity?
Why no electricity in the first place? You are using it every day to access the Internet why all of a sudden go against it being used to transfer money?

to push the limits of what is possible with bitcoin

[Midas111]

This idea is bad on so many levels. Like how would you ensure that nobody else sees your light or smoke signals. Morse code? It's also visible to everyone within range.
At some point this has to be placed in the blockchain to prevent double spending. How are you going to do that without electricity?
Why no electricity in the first place? You are using it every day to access the Internet why all of a sudden go against it being used to transfer money?

you bring up an interesting point how to keep someone from seeing the seed who isnt supposed to? Well set up in a private location opsec?

[pixie85]

you bring up an interesting point how to keep someone from seeing the seed who isnt supposed to? Well set up in a private location opsec?

If you go to the extent of setting it up in a remote location, why use smoke signals or morse code if you are both there? I mean if both parties are willing to travel to send coins why not just meet up and write it on a piece of paper? But then what would stop the sender from taking out his smartphone a minute after the exchange and sending coins to another address?
This is like choosing to walk to work in winter when you have a car because you want to push yourself. It won't do you any good because you will have to wake up earlier to make it and you will start your day tired after walking for an hour. Nobody will care and the rest of the world will keep driving. You'll only make it hard for yourself and achieve nothing.

[Midas111]

you bring up an interesting point how to keep someone from seeing the seed who isnt supposed to? Well set up in a private location opsec?

If you go to the extent of setting it up in a remote location, why use smoke signals or morse code if you are both there? I mean if both parties are willing to travel to send coins why not just meet up and write it on a piece of paper? But then what would stop the sender from taking out his smartphone a minute after the exchange and sending coins to another address?
This is like choosing to walk to work in winter when you have a car because you want to push yourself. It won't do you any good because you will have to wake up earlier to make it and you will start your day tired after walking for an hour. Nobody will care and the rest of the world will keep driving. You'll only make it hard for yourself and achieve nothing.

speak for yourself. The pursuit of the furthest possible direct bitcoin transfer using no electricity is wholesome entertaining and very interesting.

[PeRo]

That isn't really possible in any way, and why would even someone want to send Bitcoin without electricity? That just doesn't have a point, I mean it would be a nice experiment if it was possible in any way, but it isn't. Just send the Bitcoins normally as it is designed, it's not like we have shortage in electricity.

[stompix]

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to push the limits of what is possible with bitcoin

Well, using a carrot as a dildo it's really going to improve agricultural research and combat famine.

Same with this topic, not going to help BTC, the only thing is good at is revealing shitposters that have no clue what this is about, like the guy with the biogas 7 or 8 posts above.

If you go to the extent of setting it up in a remote location, why use smoke signals or morse code if you are both there? I mean if both parties are willing to travel to send coins why not just meet up and write it on a piece of paper? But then what would stop the sender from taking out his smartphone a minute after the exchange and sending coins to another address?
This is like choosing to walk to work in winter when you have a car because you want to push yourself. It won't do you any good because you will have to wake up earlier to make it and you will start your day tired after walking for an hour. Nobody will care and the rest of the world will keep driving. You'll only make it hard for yourself and achieve nothing.

You're spending too much energy (pun!) on a topic made for trolling.
Wioutht energy you will never be able to connect to any node and verify the balance in that address or wallet.
So...the whole thing is pointless.