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February 19, 2019, 12:25:49 PM
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I think the most interesting ( for me ) graph for Bitcoin Talk would be the trend in guest views, and the duration of guest visits, ie. the number of threads read per visit. A breakdown of views by board would also be useful. This could provide some information about the threads we should be starting to expand the membership with quality posters.

Huh Is that even possible? I can't seem to find ways on getting a solid informations in the outside, for it is not handled by the forum I think?

Edit: I tried to search for some tools to be used, and what a surprise its definitely possible but sadly it wasn't for free ( haven't tried it though so I'm not sure if it will be accurate )



As for the OP, it seems he's yet to find out the other boards existing in this forum, SMTs are still running without any difference from the past...




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February 19, 2019, 12:48:37 PM
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Most of it is available as a plugin for SMF, but the recording may not be worth the server overhead.

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February 19, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
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Huh Is that even possible? I can't seem to find ways on getting a solid informations in the outside, for it is not handled by the forum I think?
It is possible, Goggle analytics can provide such data but only forum owner can have access to it.

Edit: I tried to search for some tools to be used, and what a surprise its definitely possible but sadly it wasn't for free ( haven't tried it though so I'm not sure if it will be accurate )
free tools and even paid ones don't return accurate results, don't waste your time and money.

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February 19, 2019, 02:40:08 PM
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This is something new, instead of the headlines that bitcoin is dying, now forum is dying just because we have less posts/users then year ago or something like that.

It is an indisputable fact that price is driving force for the crypto community, this is clearly demonstrated in December 2017 & January / February 2018. Also as some others noticed that merit system greatly reduced activity of a good part of the users who no longer find ways to make progress easily as before.

When I join forum back in 2015 there was a lot more signature campaigns then today, a control on some campaigns is just conducted by bots (YoBit, BitMixer), and it was a real spam jungle after which the administration introduced some measures which gave pretty good results in reducing spam, and remove some users from forum.


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February 19, 2019, 03:31:20 PM
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Well I do my bit in trying to keep things going by posting in Serious Discussion and Ivory Tower. Have you guys considered that some people may think that you are only here for the sig spamming if you don't contribute to those boards?

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February 19, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
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I agree that the forum is dying and people should abandon paid/incentivized signatures.

What? come on don't be bias toward paid / incentivized signatures campaigns, then for what reason will the forum be?. Though can't see the death or the dying you are seeing but be rest assure that Bitcointalk forum is more gallant and vibrant compare to all other crypto forum around the world.

Very soon there will be a major rise in traffic because the market has just began another positive move which i strongly believe will be sustain for another ATH. Also, it might interest you to know that next year is Bitcoin halving which is likely to take place between May/June 2019 so, expect many more visitors to the forum very soon.

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February 19, 2019, 07:33:28 PM
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I don't think that bitcointalk dying Smiley
Probably some users lost interest because of btc price drop and others because of less available signatures campaigns on the forum.
In my opinion, it's better for the forum because we have less SPAM now.

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February 20, 2019, 01:37:37 AM
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Yes it is and the only people will remain here are those enthusiast,and those people who wants $$$$ those investors wont last here,because most of the people here are only for the money.
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February 20, 2019, 02:50:21 AM
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For the OP,

What do you call the forum is for the period before 2017?
Did the forum been dead before 2017?
The following time series plot (for more details, please visit the original thread to get them), shows that months, nearly one year after the implementation of merit system, monthly registered accounts have fallen to almost the same range before spamming endemic in 2017 and 2018.
The merit system launch is a shock for spammers, whislt it is extremely good for the forum.

Eventually, spamming endemic has been likely wipened out, for now.

In  my opinion, the forum has not dead.
In contrast, it has been realived.
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Notes:
It's not exact intra-month registered accounts over years due to days on which theymos scrapped data.
However, we can assumed those figures are for intra-month data.



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(1) 50% of observed months have intra-month registered account range from 2311 to 27790 (the interquartile range);
(2) 50% of observed months have intra-month registered account above or below 10432 (the median);
(3) The intra-month registered account fell 91.6% from its all time high in 2017 at 238400 to 20046; whilst the bitcoin decreased nearly 83.9%.
(4) The demotion on Junior Members in September 2018 probably caused intra-month registered accounts fell considerbaly later months.
(5) The difference in means of before and after periods (cut-off timepoint is Sept. 2018) is -63.6%.


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-   BTC price evolution in USD (source: /www.barchart.com).

 
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It would be fantastic if instead of numbers, thousands of statistics of this, of that and bla bla bla. People could link to good discussions that are taking place. The forum will only die when its real purpose, which is to have good discussions on matters related to Bitcoin, no longer exists.

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February 20, 2019, 09:10:43 AM
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I'll rather go with more healthy and quality traffic,than a whole lot of traffic that's simply about posting off-topic Just to earn. Discussions are the basic of this forum and it's our duty to keep discussions alive,but we sure would not do that at the expense of the word "Quality"
On the eye,i think the level of posts have dropped on the forum, this in part may be due to falling prices of cryptocurrency etc
But to tag the forum as near dead is wrong,back in the days the forum didn't have as much traffic as it does now, but every bit of traffic it got then was worth it and beneficial.
If we'll be going back in time,then it's totally acceptable by me
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February 20, 2019, 02:21:29 PM
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There is no way to deny that users of bitcointalk aren't active like past times. But i can't be agree with OPs doubt that bitcointalk is going to die or not. Users will come and left depending on crypto market situation but forum will be on its place. Its true many users left this place after getting their profit but I beleive forum will not die just for their departure.

I always like to share that we are not only community members. We are a family here. If any member left or try to forget family for a short time that doesn't mean that family will not belong. That time isn't too far when we will get all our old members back on the forum again. Forum only needs them who actually care about forum. We don't need scammers, spammers, trollers or any simillar person like them. 

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February 20, 2019, 02:35:23 PM
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If any member left or try to forget family for a short time that doesn't mean that family will not belong.

Not unless the new forum will be launched. And yeah, they'll surely comeback once bitcoin has gone up again to its crazy value. Old forum account will also surely comeback when some of it has been bought through the shadows, we really can't control such thing as this.

But I agree on behalf of you buddy. Forum doesn't die eventually, only the admin can shut this down. As long as it is running through the internet, even if it has no active members left it isnt and wont be considered as to be dead.




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February 20, 2019, 02:52:47 PM
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The relevance of the forum is not determined by the number of users active or posts being put out, but by the number of quality content and healthy discussions being had which grows the cryptocurrency knowledge of the community, which is the goal of Bitcoin forum.
The most active boards are not the ones I frequent often, but rather those that interest me, and from which I can learn a few things.

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February 20, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
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The relevance of the forum is not determined by the number of users active or posts being put out, but by the number of quality content and healthy discussions being had which grows the cryptocurrency knowledge of the community, which is the goal of Bitcoin forum.
The most active boards are not the ones I frequent often, but rather those that interest me, and from which I can learn a few things.

I agree with you.
I'm here more than 5 years and learned a lot about bitcoin and crypto, when I just begin my journey in the crypto world.
Later we had a lot SCAMS because of signatures campaigns but now situation is better.
I don't care much about number of users but number of quality posts I can find on the forum.

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February 20, 2019, 03:45:59 PM
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Parts of the stats page seem to be dead since December 2017
Yup.
Something is rotten in the stats of Bitcointalk.
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Last edit: February 20, 2019, 06:08:02 PM by DdmrDdmr
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Based on forum stats:
Average online per day: 178.41
I’m not even sure what that ratio means (people?, minutes?, Seconds?). I’d say minutes in a session makes most sense.

If we compare the number to the same stat from 05/01/2012 (see https://web.archive.org/web/20120105092319/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats), that same ratio indicated 262.76. With only 46425 forum members back then, it seems that the ratio makes more sense being average session time.

By the way, interesting to see on the referenced 2012 stat the most viewed topics ("GUI Mining …", "[1233 GH/s] Slush’s Pool …", "Deepbits.net PPS+Prop instant payouts, we pay for invalid blocks too", "Phoenix – Efficient, faster, modular miner", "DiabloMiner GPUMiner …", I just got hacked - any help is welcome! (25,000 BTC stolen) (*), "[1000 GH/s] BTC Guild …".

Conceptually, it would be nice for the official forum stats to be parametrizable by dates, so as to narrow down the stat to last month, quarter, year and so on. Not trivial though.

(*) The thread is 32 pages long, and has quite a fair share of controversy whether the claim is legit or whether it was a self coup-de-BTC. That currently (not back then) is equivalent to nearly 90M USD.

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February 21, 2019, 12:05:48 PM
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Let's be realistic. Bitcointalk is dying. But this is a controlled decrease in activity. The emergence of the merit system on the forum created by moderators in order to reduce the appearance of new users and create problems for everyone else. Is it spam? No. You have to admit it. I don't believe anyone who sings the praises of this system. But this is not the only problem. The decline in activity in the cryptocurrency market contributed to a sharp decline in the number of new projects. Previously, each forum participant could take part in signature companies and become a member of the cryptocurrency community without money. Now it's almost impossible. I think that the forum moderators consider their mission to popularize cryptocurrencies fulfilled and the number of users will be constantly reduced.
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February 21, 2019, 12:51:19 PM
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A healthy tree is not dying because you prune the dead wood.

To those of you who would like to see more healthy discussions, there is a simple solution - start quality discussion threads, and contribute to those that have already been started. I thought that my coffee lounge thread in the Ivory Tower might create some interesting opinions. In fact there have been some good replies, but it is pretty much ignored. Sometimes I start to think that members are only interested in pushing their signatures.

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Let's be realistic. Bitcointalk is dying. But this is a controlled decrease in activity. The emergence of the merit system on the forum created by moderators in order to reduce the appearance of new users and create problems for everyone else. Is it spam? No. You have to admit it. I don't believe anyone who sings the praises of this system. But this is not the only problem. The decline in activity in the cryptocurrency market contributed to a sharp decline in the number of new projects. Previously, each forum participant could take part in signature companies and become a member of the cryptocurrency community without money. Now it's almost impossible. I think that the forum moderators consider their mission to popularize cryptocurrencies fulfilled and the number of users will be constantly reduced.
I refuse to believe that anyone other than people involved in account farming and/or shitposting could write such nonsense. Oh wait. Roll Eyes

To those of you who would like to see more healthy discussions, there is a simple solution - start quality discussion threads, and contribute to those that have already been started. I thought that my coffee lounge thread in the Ivory Tower might create some interesting opinions. In fact there have been some good replies, but it is pretty much ignored. Sometimes I start to think that members are only interested in pushing their signatures.
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