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February 18, 2019, 09:19:35 PM
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Average online per day: 178.41
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February 18, 2019, 09:28:40 PM
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Based on forum stats:

Average online per day: 178.41

That cannot possibly be accurate.

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February 18, 2019, 09:29:07 PM
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Based on forum stats:

Average online per day: 178.41
Not true at all. The reality actually is after the introduction of the merit system, most spammers and account farmers left.
This has been coupled with much stricter forum rules lately like negative trusting misbehaving users and also the bear market.

There was an influx of all sorts of people in the forum towards the end of 2017 due to the bull run where the were seeking airdrops, bounties and ICO of which many have since starved off now due to the lengthy bear run.

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February 18, 2019, 09:32:54 PM
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Parts of the stats page seem to be dead since December 2017 so the numbers are probably not accurate. Besides the average might include early days in 2010-2011.

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February 18, 2019, 09:37:21 PM
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Stats haven't been updated for a while, and the averages are all-time averages.
Basically, it's wrong.

To give a more accurate example: Yesterday (Dutch time) 17905 posts were created by 6112 users. I might have missed a few users, I failed scraping 13 of those posts, but the result is pretty accurate.
This number doesn't include online users who read but didn't post.

To answer your question: Bitcointalk isn't dying.

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February 18, 2019, 09:38:22 PM
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Based on forum stats:

Average online per day: 178.41
Not true at all. The reality actually is after the introduction of the merit system, most spammers and account farmers left.
This has been coupled with much stricter forum rules lately like negative trusting misbehaving users and also the bear market.

There was an influx of all sorts of people in the forum towards the end of 2017 due to the bull run where the were seeking airdrops, bounties and ICO of which many have since starved off now due to the lengthy bear run.
Some of the argument might be true but where do they go when they leave, Do they have close alternatives?. Other options may not serve the same purpose as bitcointalk but project team lately dont think they can have that size of investors like in the past. I can deduct this by the renewed approach and reward for social campaign for their projects than for bitcointalk. People are not spending time reading the forum post like before and searching for news, bounty hunter had taken over the forum just posting or rather spamming.  merit is still considered as important but other benefits should be attached to the forum and more or higher financial implication should be attached to getting forum membership to control spammers.

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February 18, 2019, 09:49:31 PM
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The personal stats were disabled at the end of December 2017, exactly when the last stats were posted on the stats page.

There is so much drama in the forum, it impossible to die. Bitcoin is crawling up to 4k so soon those who lost faith will come back. Next year will be the halving so then the forum will explode ... again Cheesy

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February 18, 2019, 09:57:54 PM
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People are not spending time reading the forum post like before and searching for news


one main reason is the bear market, if you look at google search






you can see that people are gradually losing interest in bitcoin , not so many people want to learn about bitcoin or learn how to mine it or search for the perfect ICO.

I don't have the complete data on the forum visitors, but i am pretty sure if we were to draw a chart it would look descending just like the one above, specially if we would exclude all alt accounts ( bounty hunters with dozens of accounts) and take only human beings into calculation.

but wait for the next bull run and you will see the forum under an unplanned DDoS attack from new comers.

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February 18, 2019, 09:58:51 PM
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Some of the argument might be true but where do they go when they leave, Do they have close alternatives?. Other options may not serve the same purpose as bitcointalk but project team lately dont think they can have that size of investors like in the past. I can deduct this by the renewed approach and reward for social campaign for their projects than for bitcointalk. People are not spending time reading the forum post like before and searching for news, bounty hunter had taken over the forum just posting or rather spamming.  merit is still considered as important but other benefits should be attached to the forum and more or higher financial implication should be attached to getting forum membership to control spammers.
It doesn't necessarily mean they have somewhere else to go. Most of those get-rich-quick scheme people could have probably decided to log out of the forum and move on with life having realized that it's not possible as they thought back then when the bull run was crazy.

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February 18, 2019, 10:13:09 PM
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If bitcointalk dying implies the reduction of the amount of spam poster on the forum then mate death is not bad.
In my own opinion there has been lesser junk post accumulating in the forum of late regardless of the reason be it bad market or bad ico bounties the forum is having a greener eco system
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February 18, 2019, 11:49:44 PM
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The price of BTC is not 20k anymore, of course a lot of people who is interested in the price only is vivisting the forum as often.
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February 19, 2019, 12:42:51 AM
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Bitcointalk starts to die when traffic rapidly increases due to price spikes or huge bull runs.

It simply dilutes collisions between real enthusiasts that are not just here for a quick buck. As more people turn up only to ask how to grab a few bucks as fast as possible for as little effort as possible then they drown out and deter the real enthusiasts (most would have located this forum by now I expect,.. although perhaps a small % of new visitors that came just for the quick bucks do become real supporters of the movement) and they start to contribute less frequently.

When the bear market comes back those that were only here for a fast buck all vanish and the collisions between real enthusiasts increases and those that will support this community regardless of immediate financial reward whom may have dropped off start to get more involved and contribute more frequently once again.

I would worry less about the numbers of posters/visitors and more about the general quality and atmosphere of the board.

How easy is it to find an interesting and informative thread where people are getting along nicely and enjoying discussing crypto related projects/ideas is an indication of how "alive and well " the board is.






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February 19, 2019, 12:47:22 AM
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The price of BTC is not 20k anymore, of course a lot of people who is interested in the price only is vivisting the forum as often.

This maybe not the reason after all. Results from previous years makes network traffic of bitcointalk loaded, the only reason i see is; lack of opportunity to people who thinks about instant money making that  bitcointalk can give such as sig camp and at the same time the value/price is huge so easy money as it is.

Besides, LoyceV gives the answer 90% accurate since he scraped and only 13 missed. (does not matter at all)

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February 19, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
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Based on forum stats:

Average online per day: 178.41
You're wrong! You're only a newbie that doesn't know all about this forum especially its rules and you are here posting a topic about that big lie. The price of bitcoin's price doesn't affect the forum but sometimes bitcoin users are affected not the forum.
The price of BTC is not 20k anymore, of course a lot of people who is interested in the price only is vivisting the forum as often.
The forum is not all about the bitcoin's price. We are here to discuss about cryptocurrency and some crypto related stuffs.

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February 19, 2019, 04:47:18 AM
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Average online per day: 178.41
This are surely some wrong stats you have obtained from a un-updated source I guess. If you have got this data from the stats page, you should note that it is not updated until as the last update was on December 2017 as you can check there in the Forum History (using forum time offset) column.

More and more members are getting added evey day, and more conversation is generated every day here. Yes, there was some decrease in the number of users after the mass drop of crypto prices recently. But, it dose not make forum dead or inactive in any case as Bitcoin is less like an investment and more like a future digital currency. This makes some people hold faith in Bitcoin and its values and most of the early and smart investors of Bitcoin would never leave this place for sure as they already know the power and potential of Bitcoin.
From this I can say:
FORUM IS NOT DYING

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February 19, 2019, 05:41:34 AM
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I agree that the forum is dying and people should abandon paid/incentivized signatures.

I totally disagree.
People seem to realize that the activity of the forum correlates around the number of spammers WHEN the price of each bitcoin was steadily increasing, which is not the case. For individuals who seem to care only to the monetary opportunities arising from the forum, they based the activity on the number of posts they see or comments that are created by spammers.
Ever since the merit system was implemented, it filtered out most of the spammers including people who purely chased profits due to the stringent requirements of campaign managers.

Based on forum stats:

Average online per day: 178.41

Please provide any concrete data and evidence on where you gained this number. Posting any false/misleading data can qualify your account to be sanctioned.

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February 19, 2019, 07:28:03 AM
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I've watched so many videos recently, that I can't remember the source of this information, but these are some facts that seem to be generally reported.

Bitcoin use is increasing, and this is evidenced by an increase in the number of wallets, and addresses that are active.
Lightning network is gaining acceptance,and this will increase the adoption of Bitcoin
The exchanges report that the recent pump in the price of Bitcoin brought new money into the Bitcoin economy.

I think the most interesting ( for me ) graph for Bitcoin Talk would be the trend in guest views, and the duration of guest visits, ie. the number of threads read per visit. A breakdown of views by board would also be useful. This could provide some information about the threads we should be starting to expand the membership with quality posters.

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The following charts show:
-   The number of historical Bitcointalk posts created between 2 different consecutive readings (*)
-   BTC price evolution in USD (source: /www.barchart.com).

 
Quite a resemblance there…

It is rather a question of perspective:

I joined the forum on January 2018, so from that perspective, the number of posts has fallen 5 fold and it seems rather quiet now in comparison, with many less new posts to browse on the sections I normally roam.

From a historical perspective, the number of posts is roughly the same mid 2017, and if Bitcointalk wasn’t sinking then, then it is not doing so now. But there is a steep downward trend which may (or may not) be stabilizing in de 500-600K area as of late.  

Nevertheless, if we were compare the proportion of crypto holders back in mid 2017 with those currently 2019 (I haven’t got the data), the ratio of posts to holders may have taken a dive, and the awareness created from mid 2017 to mid 2018 does seem to be brushing-off in terms of posts (many are bounty related obviously).

It’s really a rather complex multidimensional issue, where market value, product maturity and real-life usage cases, scams and loses, end of ICO gold rush, forum related elements (merits, trust, sem/seo, etc.), etc. all play their role.

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(*) -Bitcointalk number of posts is derived using public internet achieved data snapshots. Due to this, I can’t be picky and retrieved all data with an exact one month separation, so I’ve retrieved the most suitable dates with nearly a 1 month gap.
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Todays reading (19/02/2019) is shy of a month by a week, so real projection should be nesr the 500K posts for a complete month’s reading.


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February 19, 2019, 11:38:32 AM
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I agree that the forum is dying and people should abandon paid/incentivized signatures.
Its only an average rate and its not accurate. Its not dying, in fact many newbies are still coming because they want to learn more about cryptocurrency which this forum gives that to them. If you want to abandon paid campaign, then start doing it at the end of the day its your choice.

Oh, at some point we can say this forum is dying, dying in terms of greedy people as the DT’s are now doing their best to kill those spammers and cheaters! Cheers to them!

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