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February 25, 2019, 02:07:48 AM |
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Did you guys even read or check what this is all about? it's a free betting contest this means you don't have to pay anything and you can also win free money. ~ Oh, and what kind of serious company/project uses a red trusted member to advertise for them yet we have so many clean trusted members here? Most of the Red Trusted users with definite referrences here aren't to be trusted anymore, maybe they can actually do good things if they want to but the past deeds can't be removed. There are so many people nowadays does this thing and some other people try to defend them like they're alts, friends, or any thing that is related to the OP, or maybe they're too dumb to realize that? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Now that I think that @MakeMoneyBtc is one of those that I have mentioned ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) OP was caught for merit abuse, and although it's not related to the gambling site he is promoting but the reputation would affect it. qwk 2018-09-18 0.00000000 Reference merit abuse Lauda 2018-09-18 0.00000000 Reference Merit abuse/trading. Avoid. Vod 2018-09-18 0.00000000 Reference Merit Abuse Those are all DT -1 if I'm not mistaken so I think this red trust is so valid. The site [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release v2.0 was created January 31, 2019 but it has no gained attention from gamblers, it clearly says gamblers are not interested.
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February 25, 2019, 02:18:40 AM |
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Every gambling place should choose every person who will be promoting their place, this is a disadvantage when they choose someone who is not trusted in this forum, such as now most people will not visit the gambling site when he sees the red trust he has, there are many interpretations from everyone when one member promotes and has red trust like they are afraid of deception or even a hacker.
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Johnny00 (OP)
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February 25, 2019, 03:01:04 AM |
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Wow, lots of angry people here. This site really has gone downhill.
I'll answer all questions. Let me know if I miss anything.
No i am not a team member or community manager. just a user.
Its marketing the new platform. Parimutal P2P betting with no fees.
They are finalizing the other wallets, Just windows is ready now.
It's anonymous, no data is stolen.
Its a wallet where you can bet in your own wallet.
Also in regards to merit I had no idea what it was. I just saw someone gave me some and I gave it back. Who cares. Not sure how it is abuse when there was no warning. I've done a lot in other groups which many people have trusted with with much more money than a merit based website.
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Johnny00 (OP)
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February 25, 2019, 03:01:50 AM |
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Every gambling place should choose every person who will be promoting their place, ...
I think that, they didn't choose him to promote that site, this might be a work from the OP willingly to advertise it for free without being connected or affiliated to the company/site. And if not, I guess that company owner, together with its core team is crazy for not thinking very well. of course, i'm just a community member. Not many people use bitcointalk anymore
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February 25, 2019, 06:24:20 AM |
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How this works
The op just provided two link without providing explanation on how the contents work. I was careful not to risk my account by clicking the link because of hacking but I believe they is no serious explanation at the sites too.
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February 25, 2019, 02:12:12 PM |
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Every gambling place should choose every person who will be promoting their place, this is a disadvantage when they choose someone who is not trusted in this forum, such as now most people will not visit the gambling site when he sees the red trust he has, there are many interpretations from everyone when one member promotes and has red trust like they are afraid of deception or even a hacker.
No gambling sites will choose a red trust member to be their representative in this forum as well as in other places. On the other hand, any members in this forum are free to create a thread for anything they want to share as long as it does not break any forum rules. Creating a thread informing about a site or any other thing does not mean that the user is chosen by the gambling site. I'm saying it in general, not to defend the OP.
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February 25, 2019, 05:36:18 PM |
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No gambling sites will choose a red trust member to be their representative in this forum as well as in other places. On the other hand, any members in this forum are free to create a thread for anything they want to share as long as it does not break any forum rules. Creating a thread informing about a site or any other thing does not mean that the user is chosen by the gambling site. I'm saying it in general, not to defend the OP As I got it, OP is not affiliated with the site But no fees is definitely a red flag (yes, I checked with the site and it states exactly that). Really, why would anyone want to offer a free lunch (well, a free betting opportunity)? How are they going to earn then unless there are some hidden fees involved? It doesn't look like they are offering a web interface at all (which is a must-have these days), but they have a desktop wallet which you should download and install. So don't be surprised if there is some nasty code in it eagerly looking to steal your precious coins
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Johnny00 (OP)
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February 25, 2019, 05:45:44 PM |
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No gambling sites will choose a red trust member to be their representative in this forum as well as in other places. On the other hand, any members in this forum are free to create a thread for anything they want to share as long as it does not break any forum rules. Creating a thread informing about a site or any other thing does not mean that the user is chosen by the gambling site. I'm saying it in general, not to defend the OP As I got it, OP is not affiliated with the site But no fees is definitely a red flag (yes, I checked with the site and it states exactly that). Really, why would anyone want to offer a free lunch (well, a free betting opportunity)? How are they going to earn then unless there are some hidden fees involved? It doesn't look like they are offering a web interface at all (which is a must-have these days), but they have a desktop wallet which you should download and install. So don't be surprised if there is some nasty code in it eagerly looking to steal your precious coins No nasty code. Look at the block rewards. 10% to the dev. That's their only payment so it aligns 100% to have this platform up and running. Join telegram or discord to ask the dev any questions.
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February 25, 2019, 06:42:57 PM |
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No gambling sites will choose a red trust member to be their representative in this forum as well as in other places. On the other hand, any members in this forum are free to create a thread for anything they want to share as long as it does not break any forum rules. Creating a thread informing about a site or any other thing does not mean that the user is chosen by the gambling site. I'm saying it in general, not to defend the OP As I got it, OP is not affiliated with the site But no fees is definitely a red flag (yes, I checked with the site and it states exactly that). Really, why would anyone want to offer a free lunch (well, a free betting opportunity)? How are they going to earn then unless there are some hidden fees involved? It doesn't look like they are offering a web interface at all (which is a must-have these days), but they have a desktop wallet which you should download and install. So don't be surprised if there is some nasty code in it eagerly looking to steal your precious coins No nasty code. Look at the block rewards. 10% to the dev. That's their only payment so it aligns 100% to have this platform up and running. Join telegram or discord to ask the dev any questions Well, I expected something like that The same approach is used with ZCash if I'm not mistaken, where some share of the block reward goes right into the wallets of primary investors in this coin (doesn't look like ZCash is extremely popular though). In this manner, it can be said that betting should help promote the use of the underlying coin (which is called BetKings, KNG for short). So, technically, it is yet another shitcoin that you are supposed to buy in order to bet with it, a bet coin of sorts. But we already have Dogecoin which fits perfectly here, so why all the fuss really?
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February 26, 2019, 03:35:15 AM |
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Every gambling place should choose every person who will be promoting their place, this is a disadvantage when they choose someone who is not trusted in this forum, such as now most people will not visit the gambling site when he sees the red trust he has, there are many interpretations from everyone when one member promotes and has red trust like they are afraid of deception or even a hacker.
No gambling sites will choose a red trust member to be their representative in this forum as well as in other places. On the other hand, any members in this forum are free to create a thread for anything they want to share as long as it does not break any forum rules. Creating a thread informing about a site or any other thing does not mean that the user is chosen by the gambling site. I'm saying it in general, not to defend the OP. This was what I thought, I didn't know what was done by OP, just share to everyone about the gambling site or he tried to promote this gambling site because usually everyone will do something (especially promoting a place) with the aim of getting a reward, infrequently someone who did these thing with a sincerity.
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February 26, 2019, 03:56:29 AM |
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Being a hero member with good number of merits and without any clear description making an announcement thread is annoying. In the thread itself you could've provided with the detailing which will at least gain some trust upon you and the posted service even though you're painted with red trust.
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February 26, 2019, 09:11:59 AM |
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Being a hero member with good number of merits and without any clear description making an announcement thread is annoying. In the thread itself you could've provided with the detailing which will at least gain some trust upon you and the posted service even though you're painted with red trust. Forget about merit, he only earned that because of abuse, not really organic coming from his real contribution in this forum. Just check his trust rating below so that you will know the reason why his profile has red trust. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F24yaams.png&t=665&c=MXGZMK2731VFgw)
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February 27, 2019, 07:23:49 AM |
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There are still tons of other better places to bet than this new platform they want on an altcoin? It's posted on bitcoin talk and we should somehow see huge value in this token that is being sold hmmmm?? Makes no sense.
If they need to launch a "currency" to have a business, the customers are probably not their first priority.
It looks overly complex with no real benefit to the people betting to use Masternodes (this is bitcoin talk right?) rather than a currency like bitcoin to gamble with.
Betting this fails is obvious with all of the altcoin gambling sites that pop up. Look at Augur or any of the Ethereum and EOS gambling sites that NOBODY plays on.
Just because it is a huge industry with lots of MONEY, doesn't mean that money easily moves into Bitcoin, yet alone "crypto."
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February 27, 2019, 08:56:22 AM |
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Seems they have an ANN thread here that they will delete comments suggesting their whole business idea is stupid... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104653.0Fair enough but people spending their MONEY on these stupid ICO's, Airdrops and Bounties will dry up soon Anyways, deleted post: It looks lame.
Bounty's and airdrops aren't needed for things that are valuable but ICO's drop these "new coins" at the drop of a hat.
PEOPLE DONT VALUE BUYING THINGS THAT ARE JUST GIVEN AWAY.
If a currency needs to be created for a business to exist it isn't a business looking out for its customers...therefore there will be no customers...
Every gambling whitepaper, token or ICO has something like this:
"The net worth of the gambling market is a total of 60 billion dollars, BetKings aims to improve that by introducing decentralized bets on the blockchain completely autonomous, no human interferes with your funds or your bets."
Gambling is HUGE therefore WE will disrupt it by doing the same thing Augur, Fairlay, Onehash, Nitrogen, Bitcoin Rush, Stake, BetOnline, Bodog, 7bit, bitstarz, mbit, FunFair and TONS of others are trying to disrupt.... with what? Blockchain? LOL
This will not make money. Your staff should keep their CV's up to date because they will need jobs when the ICO money dries up if it doesn't fail.
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February 27, 2019, 11:57:59 AM |
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Seems they have an ANN thread here that they will delete comments suggesting their whole business idea is stupid... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104653.0Fair enough but people spending their MONEY on these stupid ICO's, Airdrops and Bounties will dry up soon Anyways, deleted post: It looks lame.
Bounty's and airdrops aren't needed for things that are valuable but ICO's drop these "new coins" at the drop of a hat.
PEOPLE DONT VALUE BUYING THINGS THAT ARE JUST GIVEN AWAY.
If a currency needs to be created for a business to exist it isn't a business looking out for its customers...therefore there will be no customers...
Every gambling whitepaper, token or ICO has something like this:
"The net worth of the gambling market is a total of 60 billion dollars, BetKings aims to improve that by introducing decentralized bets on the blockchain completely autonomous, no human interferes with your funds or your bets."
Gambling is HUGE therefore WE will disrupt it by doing the same thing Augur, Fairlay, Onehash, Nitrogen, Bitcoin Rush, Stake, BetOnline, Bodog, 7bit, bitstarz, mbit, FunFair and TONS of others are trying to disrupt.... with what? Blockchain? LOL
This will not make money. Your staff should keep their CV's up to date because they will need jobs when the ICO money dries up if it doesn't fail.
Any user should just stay away from any website that has a official self moderated ann topic, If there's nothing wrong with what you're promoting why would you feel the need to delete posts really?, Just lol at the first post in that topic, just wait and see how many newbies express their opinion about how much they like everything about the website and how legitimate the website is because they just deposited x amount of money there.
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February 27, 2019, 12:39:19 PM |
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So shitty accusations has been cleared I think you should already lock this thread up, it won't really do you a good thing by keeping this up, you'll get bashed over and over again because of the reddy thing in your account.
With just leaving your explanation like that I think it will help you let these users understand on why you purposedly advertised that site.
Normal for people to react when seeing some negative tags on some accounts no matter on where it do involves, impressions would still remain.As far as know about this betting contest it do talks about that shitty shitcoin KNG on that.I wont ever tend to download some unknown source and with that alone, i wont really have the reason to continue.
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February 27, 2019, 01:20:25 PM |
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Any user should just stay away from any website that has a official self moderated ann topic, If there's nothing wrong with what you're promoting why would you feel the need to delete posts really?, Just lol at the first post in that topic, just wait and see how many newbies express their opinion about how much they like everything about the website and how legitimate the website is because they just deposited x amount of money there I'm doubtful if anyone is going to deposit anything there Basically, the whole idea of this system is to promote yet another shitcoin. And while a couple years ago it might have attracted some money, this is no longer the case. As they say, once bitten twice shy, and people are likely to stay away from any such efforts nowadays. Regarding self-moderated threads, I don't like them either (but who does?), but on the other hand, it is easy to derail even a topic about a truly legitimate product which is just kicking off (for example, by angry competitors)
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February 27, 2019, 04:52:26 PM |
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I'm doubtful if anyone is going to deposit anything there
Basically, the whole idea of this system is to promote yet another shitcoin.
They already postponed launching in Q4 2018 on their roadmap...like someone realized Augur, Fairlay, Onehash have prediction betting products that are already covering altcoins and bitcoin. Then there are the outright sportsbooks offering gambling for every game. Even Hodlhodl is launching a prediction market. They have an existing business, revenue stream and customers it's likely these startups all get crushed quickly.
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February 27, 2019, 06:05:36 PM |
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Seems they have an ANN thread here that they will delete comments suggesting their whole business idea is stupid... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104653.0Fair enough but people spending their MONEY on these stupid ICO's, Airdrops and Bounties will dry up soon Anyways, deleted post: It looks lame.
Bounty's and airdrops aren't needed for things that are valuable but ICO's drop these "new coins" at the drop of a hat.
PEOPLE DONT VALUE BUYING THINGS THAT ARE JUST GIVEN AWAY.
If a currency needs to be created for a business to exist it isn't a business looking out for its customers...therefore there will be no customers...
Every gambling whitepaper, token or ICO has something like this:
"The net worth of the gambling market is a total of 60 billion dollars, BetKings aims to improve that by introducing decentralized bets on the blockchain completely autonomous, no human interferes with your funds or your bets."
Gambling is HUGE therefore WE will disrupt it by doing the same thing Augur, Fairlay, Onehash, Nitrogen, Bitcoin Rush, Stake, BetOnline, Bodog, 7bit, bitstarz, mbit, FunFair and TONS of others are trying to disrupt.... with what? Blockchain? LOL
This will not make money. Your staff should keep their CV's up to date because they will need jobs when the ICO money dries up if it doesn't fail.
Little follow up to this one... https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/crypto-news/betkings-kng-kings-ag-decentralized-sportsbook-platform-or-ico-shit-coin-scam/Note to ICO's (especially with Gambling Sites) - there is a community that actually cares about cleaning up this industry as it takes over the real money gambling industry over time. ICO's that have no real plan or reason to acquire customers should avoid sourcing community funds through ICO's and simply raise their own capital if their project is such a good idea. Businesses don't need their own currencies to acquire customers. ICO's like Tombola have been a complete joke in bitcointalk forums https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/crypto-news/tombola-edits-whitepaper-mid-ico/Pretending these tokens are needed then realizing people don't value that stuff.
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February 27, 2019, 06:10:46 PM |
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Any user should just stay away from any website that has a official self moderated ann topic, If there's nothing wrong with what you're promoting why would you feel the need to delete posts really?, Just lol at the first post in that topic, just wait and see how many newbies express their opinion about how much they like everything about the website and how legitimate the website is because they just deposited x amount of money there I'm doubtful if anyone is going to deposit anything there Basically, the whole idea of this system is to promote yet another shitcoin. And while a couple years ago it might have attracted some money, this is no longer the case. As they say, once bitten twice shy, and people are likely to stay away from any such efforts nowadays. Regarding self-moderated threads, I don't like them either (but who does?), but on the other hand, it is easy to derail even a topic about a truly legitimate product which is just kicking off (for example, by angry competitors) I know that no one deposited anything there and won't in the future, that's why I said newbies are saying good stuff about this website, those are just op's alt accounts, just look how excited this newbie user is about their website and how much he appreciates that the Dev's are working tirelessly. Excited to see this take off.
Dev's have been working tirelessly to get a solid, secure, functional blockchain solution for sports betting!
Chain has been running solid for just over 1 year and betting wallet is around the corner. Good luck!
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