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February 27, 2019, 11:30:48 AM
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Most of the if we look to the science it contradict from religion but also tells us to understands it. Then how to comprehend this when the both of these things are really important in your life?
Religion is a basis for science and its rules. Science is in constant evolution and new facts, while religion is a constant law of good deeds and love of God.
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February 27, 2019, 12:34:45 PM
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maybe the answer depends on each individual. I think personally depending on how we respond, for example crypto (because we are in this group). according to my religion, there is indeed no specific law regarding this matter, but it depends on how we are describe the existing laws and rules. to be honest not a few who forbid crypto in my religion, but not a few that allow. indeed there are several factors that must be fulfilled according to those who allow it.
so in my opinion, actually these two things can work together and support each other.
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February 28, 2019, 01:04:00 AM
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^^^ You still want to keep an eye on the traffic, no matter if the signal says "WALK."

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April 14, 2019, 08:46:53 AM
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It depends... priests and scientists offer their truth, so you can choose what you like more...
Public acceptance of scientific facts may be influenced by religion) So depending on who it is concerned, faith is found in both science and religion.
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April 14, 2019, 09:20:11 AM
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I see so many people are saying that science  and religion cannot be in harmony but I think they are in perfect harmony by below logic.

Religion tells you to accept ,follow and speak the truth and science help you to find that truth.

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April 14, 2019, 06:55:43 PM
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Most of the religious activities has some scientifical reasons why we have to do it in our life but if we tell them to people they are not going to hear the importance of it but if was taught with the name of religion then it will be followed by most of the people that is why religions were born.

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April 14, 2019, 07:43:27 PM
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^^^ But is there any scientific reason why we have to do science? Of course. A good portion of science is religion, because people believe it to be true, and live by it, even though it isn't factually known to be true... science theories.

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April 14, 2019, 10:38:52 PM
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For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.
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April 14, 2019, 10:42:22 PM
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For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.

It's easy to prove things when you make up the definition of "prove".   Cool

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April 14, 2019, 11:03:22 PM
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For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.

It's easy to prove things when you make up the definition of "prove".   Cool

Now you are simply making up definitions.     Cool

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April 14, 2019, 11:12:21 PM
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Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.
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April 14, 2019, 11:21:17 PM
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^^^ And at times they overlap each other.

However, one of the things that religion shows is that science often says that things are true that are not true.

An example is that science technically says that Big Bang is not true. But scientists say that BB theory shows that it is true. However BB theory is the thing that shows that BB is not true. How? By showing us that things of the past were so extremely different that math and the laws of physics must have been different, as well. Since math and the laws of physics were different, we can't use them to show that BB ever really existed. And it is BB that shows us this.

So, it is the high priests of BB that are suggesting that BB is true against what BB shows us and them. This proves that BB has entered the realm of religion.

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April 15, 2019, 02:48:50 PM
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Most of the if we look to the science it contradict from religion but also tells us to understands it. Then how to comprehend this when the both of these things are really important in your life?

It's very simple for me, really.
Science talks about nature, universe, external world.
Religion talks about internal dimension of our life, spiritual world, our spirit.
If you see it from this viewpoint than religion and science can coexist together and even cooperate without any problem.
After all, God said in the Bible that in his eyes 1 day can be as 1000 years and 1000 years as 1 day.
So, don't understand everything literally in the Bible and you will be fine.



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April 15, 2019, 05:59:24 PM
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Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.

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April 15, 2019, 08:16:30 PM
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Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.

Then after the scientific method does its work, we have scientists expressing their beliefs about what the scientific method found, rather than what the scientific method DID find.

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April 15, 2019, 08:41:43 PM
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Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.

Then after the scientific method does its work, we have scientists expressing their beliefs about what the scientific method found, rather than what the scientific method DID find.

Cool

Maybe, however it's still the best system, what else is there, trusting old books blindly doesn't seem like a very good alternative to me.

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April 15, 2019, 10:11:22 PM
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Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.

Then after the scientific method does its work, we have scientists expressing their beliefs about what the scientific method found, rather than what the scientific method DID find.

Cool

Maybe, however it's still the best system, what else is there, trusting old books blindly doesn't seem like a very good alternative to me.

Actually, two better methods are:
1. Placing the correct interpretation on the results shown by the scientific method;
2. Letting the experience of others guide you (old books), and proving them by the pleasure or pain that follows.

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April 16, 2019, 06:23:10 AM
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This has been talked a lot of times and gets repeated. Both have a very different features. When you do talk about science it is all about solutions or answers to what we can see or touch tho sometimes it only provides a theory.

Religion on the other hand keeps the people intact. Most of the time it defines a value of brotherhood and most especially for spiritual purposes.

Don't get the wrong idea from those atheists spreading their own beliefs. They simply are the opposite of being religious.

Both science and religion plays a very important part as we lived in this land. If you want knowledge know things base on scientific  studies. If you want to feel the relief or finding your purpose on this planet find an entity that you can rest all your burdens and fears.
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April 16, 2019, 01:48:39 PM
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I've read an interresting quote back in the days that goes like, science made planes fly people to their destinations, religion flies planes into buildings, something like that. I don't totally agree but it shook me a little bit realizing what religion and blind faith can do to any individual. Religion did have a lot to do with people being moral and righteous but there seems to be an inconsistency there.


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April 16, 2019, 02:35:59 PM
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^^^ The inconsistency lies in the incomplete view of things. For example. Science doesn't make anything happen. It's engineering that makes things happen.

Most of the time people don't formally investigate the science of thimgs, but just engineer them into existence. People do this everyday, around the home and in the garage. You have heard the term "backyard mechanic."

There is a lot less to science than there is to engineering. In fact, it's the engineering that often shows what is wrong with a particular science, and then the science is changed to reflect what the engineering has found out. Science is given credit when it was really engineering that did it.

Same with religion. Formal religion usually has to do with making things better. It's personal religion that activates the life of every person.

Most of the time people don't conform in their personal religion to what their formal religion dictates. Yet they continue to use the formal name of their formal religion. This makes the formal religion look good, or look bad, based on the actions of the personal religions of its formal adherents.

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