Member of DT. Abuse of power

[Gaetalin]

UPD: The user, who sent me message on Telegram is not real Alex_Sr.

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Impressed! Very good manipulation! Here is only my account in Telegram - @Cryptospekulant

I understand that many farmers accounts loses because of my topics a lot of money. I'm very impressed with the attempt to compromise me.

[mdayonliner]

Archived for reference: http://archive.is/iEoOW

But after a couple of days he sent me message in Telegram, where he wrote that he was ready to remove a negative trust on the account, after I pay.

Can you record a video with screen-cast of the telegram?

1. Scroll the messages up and down several times.
2. On record close the telegram and reopen it and
3. again scroll up and down.

Do the scrolling slowly so that we can read the contents.

Have the video unedited. And upload it in Youtube or any other video hosting service.

If you do not have the telegram in your desktop the learn how to use it in desktop and then do the recording.

Also can you prove that the telegram ID is his? Remember: Telegram username can be changed.

[unibitcoinist]

That proves nothing. Is there any source where Alex_Sr mentioned his telegram account? No, right? Anyone can create an account with that nick and send you text demanding payment for removing the trust.
Address is same because anyone can create a telegram account with that nick and chat with himself. Better you ensure telegram account is owned by Alex_Sr.

[coinlocket$]

Am I wrong or this can be a fake telegram screenshot?

The conversation and the "profile" are on different screens so this can be a fake.

[morvillz7z]

So let me get this straight, Alex_Sr sent you a message 4 days ago stating he will not remove his negative feedback.

And then all of a sudden he decides to risk his account for a $50 bribe. This does not scream fake at all. 

[The Cryptovator]

Lol. Nice edit. So did you paid him? Even you had sent him token it doesn't prove anything that he asked for money to you. I don't believe that someone from DT will ask 50$ for remove negative feedback's and he leave forum. If this is 50K then it's believable story. Anyway, as mdayonliner asked you to provide evidence, can you please provide it ? It might be help on your case. If you can prove it then I don't think he will be on DT anymore. On the other hand ask sign message before send any fund to forum DT. Because if you collect my btc address from forum and sent btc doesn't proof that I got bribe. Because my address is public and anyone can send fund to claim for bribe. So please provide appropriate evidence otherwise may be more red tag will reflect on your profile.


Perhaps someone try to cheat you and someone trying to pierce Alex. Even you record live video that doesn't mean you chat with original person since you don't know his telegram user. Matching telegram username and Twitter username doesn't prove you are chating with on real person.

Having same ID in telegram or twitter ID doesn't means that both are owned by the same person

Got it and edited post.

[Avirunes]

So let me get this straight, Alex_Sr sent you a message 4 days ago stating he will not remove his negative feedback.

And then all of a sudden he decides to risk his account for a $50 bribe. This does not scream fake at all.  

Lol. Nice edit. So did you paid him?

Am I wrong or this can be a fake telegram screenshot?

The conversation and the "profile" are on different screens so this can be a fake.

You guys should focus on this:

His nickname in the Telegram is exactly the same as the nickname on Twitter.

Having same ID in telegram or twitter ID doesn't means that both are owned by the same person. For example: I don't know if Lauda also have a twitter with @GrumpyKitty but I can also create and try to frame Lauda like OP is doing in this case. (I don't have such intentions tho just showing an example)

Lacks solid evidence and hence this report should be held invalid.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Those cases are very difficult to proof. Same as the suchmoon accusation
Nowadays everything can be done with Photoshop/gimp. I think this is just a lost cause....

[hacker1001101001]

Having same ID in telegram or twitter ID doesn't means that both are owned by the same person. For example: I don't know if Lauda also have a twitter with @GrumpyKitty but I can also create and try to frame Lauda like OP is doing in this case. (I don't have such intentions tho just showing an example)

Lacks solid evidence and hence this report should be held invalid.

Yes, I agree just have same telegram and twitter username do not mean the accounts are owned by same owner.

But how can one explain the coexistence of the the same DGB address on both the profiles here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2925026.msg30044702#msg30044702 + http://archive.fo/il1ir


Here is also the address DGB:
1. https://twitter.com/CryptoSarapul/status/962197576115216384 + http://archive.fo/1NUUY

2. https://twitter.com/CryptoSarapul/status/969892060831547392 + http://archive.fo/BRRrg  

I too think the telegram conversation in the OP looks some what edited as none of the DT member will ruin his repo by asking funds to remove a tag.

[Findingnemo]

You can't prove anything here while you are dealing with a member outside the forum which maybe twitter or telegram only if he OMed you through his BTT accout will take into consideration rest can be faked or intentional of ruining his reputation.

[suchmoon]

OP - when did this conversation on telegram happen? How did that person find you on telegram and why did you immediately believe it's Alex_Sr?

Edit: the above probably doesn't matter, seems to be fake just based on this:


Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image

The screenshot was taken from your own outbox (because it has the e-mail icon but your e-mail is not public) and your fake telegram chat shows it as if it's coming from the fake Alex_Sr.

[xtraelv]

SO.... we are meant to believe that he publicly posts the information so any DT can tag you.....but he offers to remove the tag a few days later for a fee ?

All based on a telegram account that has the same name that he uses for his twitter account.

I am more inclined to believe that the OP made a FAKE telegram account to make the FALSE accusation.

The proof of being a farmed account is convincing.

If you didn't make the account yourself then you are most likely getting scammed by someone pretending to be him.

I've sent Alex_Sr a message so he can comment on this accusation.

EDIT: Suchmoon just caught out the OP as a scammer making a false accusation.

Archived for future reference

OP - when did this conversation on telegram happen? How did that person find you on telegram and why did you immediately believe it's Alex_Sr?

Edit: the above probably doesn't matter, seems to be fake just based on this:



The screenshot was taken from your own outbox (because it has the e-mail icon but your e-mail is not public) and your fake telegram chat shows it as if it's coming from the fake Alex_Sr.

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[morvillz7z]

That pretty much sums up the whole topic and all the fabricated pieces of evidence shown above, good catch suchmoon!

I'll try to leave appropriate feedback to OP as I'm getting a little tired of these fake accusations of late.

[Gaetalin]

OP - when did this conversation on telegram happen? How did that person find you on telegram and why did you immediately believe it's Alex_Sr?

Edit: the above probably doesn't matter, seems to be fake just based on this:

https://i.snag.gy/pg2Q49.jpg

The screenshot was taken from your own outbox (because it has the e-mail icon but your e-mail is not public) and your fake telegram chat shows it as if it's coming from the fake Alex_Sr.

My Telegram nickname is in profile.
I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

I also thought it was a fake. But I was confused by the same DGB address.
But, why would another person give the address of the wallet is the same as Alex? Or someone trying to pierce Alex.
I don’t know.

[khaled0111]

Nice catch!
You can also know that the picture is fake from the number of posts, I don't think it will be visible for the PM receiver.

OP, this accusation will make you get more red tags.

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nice, went from -2 to -64  

[mikeywith]

But how can one explain the coexistence of the the same DGB address on both the profiles here?

for the sake of argument, i want to believe that they are the same alex on both twitter and bitcointalk, but that proves nothing, unless he can prove that alex owns that telegram account too.

you see the twitter addition to his claim is nothing but a deceiving tool, it's like when you have to solve a math equation, and you start by proving that water is wet, while water is indeed wet, the math equation can still be wrong.

OP needs to prove that alex is the one who contacted him on telegram.

[suchmoon]

My Telegram nickname is in profile.
I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

Give it up.


Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image

[morvillz7z]

I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

That envelope you see marked by suchmoon is displayed only in OUTBOX messages -> messages you have sent.

The alleged Alex_Sr telegram account approached you with a screenshot of your own OUTBOX msgs. Nobody except you has access to those unless you prove you've been hacked.

[suchmoon]

I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

That envelope you see marked by suchmoon is displayed only in OUTBOX messages -> messages you have sent.

The alleged Alex_Sr telegram account approached you with a screenshot of your own OUTBOX msgs. Nobody except you has access to those unless you prove you've been hacked.

Technically it is possible for the "envelope" icon to be visible for other users if they made their e-mail address public. I have their profile scraped a week ago and that wasn't the case. So barring some precisely timed ninja-edits to coincide with when Alex_Sr allegedly took that screenshot, I think it's safe to say the telegram chat is fake.

Edit: removed my thoughts on telegram as it's not actually showing up as I expected.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

DT 1 Member risking his account & credibility for $50? I’m not believing that to be honest, nice try.