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March 01, 2019, 07:33:13 PM
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I was brave I bought some coins in the past that today gave me a certain profit, but the market is very hostile, you will not know what can happen to your altcoin that is in hold! It's all a matter of speculation and luck!
If you can read and you have good speculation you can earn profit in doing trading. But, I think it's not about the luck but its about how skillful you are in doing trading. It's hard to become intelligent trader but if you keep learning someday you can become skillful and wise trader.
a good speculation will always made a person into good form of his stage in his field more stronger but everyone does not have the ability to do that but some of the investors will do more effort for them to get the better profits.
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March 01, 2019, 09:40:55 PM
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Amen mate, amen!

thanks to stop limit because he has done a good job helping many people reduce their losses. So my advice: never forget Stop Limit

But, I think it's not about the luck but its about how skillful you are in doing trading.

it is about practice, the more practice the person has, the better results the person will have

I was brave I bought some coins in the past that today gave me a certain profit

That's because you hold, if you had done day trade it would be something else.

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March 02, 2019, 09:24:38 AM
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By just simply avoiding to put all your assets in one investment you can be at least an intelligent one. It may be sound easy to say to diversify our assets but some people really having hard time to do this, idk if it's just because they're afraid or what.

But really I prefer to be called a wise man than an intelligent one.

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March 02, 2019, 10:28:30 AM
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Not intelligent, I'm just a noob investor here, the only thing I always remember when investing in any project is, I'm going to invest for long term and I can lose all of the funds anytime. Therefore, I'm aware of all the market situation may affect badly.
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March 02, 2019, 10:50:42 AM
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being intelligent when it comes to making an investment comes down to having a lot of experience. you might have the highest IQ in the world but as long as you don't know how the markets work you will never be able to successfully make profit from them.
the good news is that experience in investing and trading can easily be gained as long as you use your head instead of blindly following others on the internet. you just have to analyze a lot, both your trades and the market.

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March 02, 2019, 12:10:21 PM
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being intelligent when it comes to making an investment comes down to having a lot of experience. you might have the highest IQ in the world but as long as you don't know how the markets work you will never be able to successfully make profit from them

You should be sort of genetically predisposed (hard-wired) for trading

So I don't know if it is possible to acquire it through experience. What I refer to here is how you act and react in cases where your trading pains become unbearable (technically, you can't use your head in these moments), i.e. what you do when things go massively awry

For example, if you are predisposed to panic, then it is unlikely that you will be able to profit from trading consistently as such people are called pigs in trading parlance and for a reason (they get slaughtered when the market makes a sudden turn against them)

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March 03, 2019, 11:06:07 AM
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It is always hard to tell if you have right investments not unless if you stick to the known coins. And being the intelligent investor would mean not losing your money. The question is how can you not lose your money when investing on unknown coins? For me it is a matter of a gamble. And being intelligent investor does not always end up so easy. Experiences would be a good foundation to become an intelligent investor and not just by purely reading details. It is always easy to say things than do it..


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March 03, 2019, 11:11:14 AM
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"Controlling yourself"

That gives me a hard time to do it.  Grin
I have been eaten by emotions before and up until now I still do it for a lot of times.
When you are on the live telegram of a group and you see some bad news about your invested coin it gets bad.

I think it would be better to just leave it alone. As long as you did your research with what you invested then it will grow. Just leave it alone. Do not be fed by news or some gossips. That is what I learned from here and also with trading.

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March 03, 2019, 04:03:22 PM
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If you wish to be an intelligent investor in the cryptocurrency markets, you are about to get your chance. The speculators have gone home, the optimists have packed their bags and the pessimists are running the show.

While we may be lacking in the financial data required to obtain true intrinsic value estimations we now have the opportunity to look for real companies, building the future, expanding their size and generating revenues and profits.

If we assume to know that the current sentiment is negative and that we are likely sitting in the depression stage of the market cycle, we can then compare this list of high-quality companies to the current pricing, stage in the cycle and their past market values to arrive at a value approximation.

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The Intelligent Cryptocurrency Investor

Recently I have been reading “The Intelligent Investor” By Benjamin Graham. I have read a lot of trading and investing books, so it was interesting that I had not read this iconic piece already. There is a wealth of old knowledge in this book that still rings true today. In fact, I have found recently that reading old books, or “classics” often gives you a better summary of the core principles around a topic than the new editions.

Let me set the scene with a quote from the book.

The whole point of investing is not purely to earn more money than average, but to earn enough money to meet your own needs. The best way to measure your investing success is not by whether you are beating the market right now, but whether you have put in a financial plan and a behavioural discipline that are likely to get you to where you want to go. In the end what matters isn’t crossing the finish line before anybody else but making sure that you do cross it.
It’s easy for us to lose focus on this, with the constant feed of price data and news headlines our brains can become completely overwhelmed. Cryptocurrency investing is unique. It involves a much larger degree of speculation than stock market investing because there is a distinct lack of hard, factual and financial data.

This means you need new frameworks for valuation and trading, which is why for cryptocurrency I have leaned towards focussing on the technical analysis of long term trends and market psychology. I believe this is the approach I will be using for a long time yet, as I cannot see a wealth of new data flooding the scene any time soon.

The Intrinsic Value Of A Cryptocurrency
While we cannot accurately speculate on the intrinsic value of a cryptocurrency without insider knowledge of assets, revenues and profits we can evaluate the opinion and beliefs of the market participants. In value investing the first step is to run the numbers and decide what the overall value of the business is by looking at its current net assets, it’s past performance and conservative future revenue earning potential. Yet in cryptocurrency, we do not have this data. What we are left to make our judgments from is past market values and market psychology at that time. Doing this will give us an approximation to the “true market value” (different to the intrinsic value).

For example, if a cryptocurrency has been falling into an area that it held previously on a number of occasions, you can assume that this level was a fair market value for that cryptocurrency. However, what you need to add into this technical calculation, is the emotional state of the market at previous times, and at this current time.

Let’s say that as price approached this specific level, and it then broke down. Did the price break down because of the overall negative market sentiment? Or was it due to more negative market opinions of the individual asset in question? If it was caused by an overall shift in the market sentiment, there is a chance this asset dropped below its true market value due to the manipulation in overall emotions. However, if the price dropped in a time of overall positive market sentiment, it is more likely that there is something specific and different about the asset in question.

Determining The Top Of An Asset Bubble
Now, all of this information is useful to determine the potential bottoms, and the true market value of cryptocurrencies, however, it is most helpful when judging and profiting from the overvaluation of assets.

As we talked about earlier individual cryptocurrencies are highly speculative in nature. Combine this with the fact that the majority of the investors are non-institutional or “average” people we can begin to create a clearer picture. The result is a market environment much like the early years of the stock market. A plethora of new valuation methods are being created, and the market is still dominated by emotion.

To use the terminology of Howard Marks, we see the pendulum of investor psychology swing back and forth, at an incredibly fast speed. What would usually take weeks, months or years, happens in hours and days. This is due to a lack of sophistication, liquidity, and players in the market. One of the main lessons I have learned in cryptocurrency is that what goes up, will almost always come back down.

We can use our framework of fair market value to observe assets that have been pushed up above this level and are likely headed for a retracement. We can also use this framework to inform potential buying opportunities as prices approach fair market valuations.

The Psychology Of An Intelligent Investor
Back in the spring of 1720, Sir Isaac Newton owned shares in the South Sea Company, the hottest stock in England. Sensing that the market was getting out of hand, the great physicist muttered that he “could calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of the people.” Newton dumped his South Sea shares, pocketing a 100% profit totaling £7,000. But just months later, swept up in the wild enthusiasm of the market, Newton jumped back in at a much higher price — and lost £20,000 (or more than $3 million in today’s money). For the rest of his life, he forbade anyone to speak the words “South Sea” in his presence.
Why is this relevant?

The problem illustrated above is that nobody can predict the top of such bubbles or price increases. In the case of cryptocurrency, prices often take time to return to their fair market value, but they usually do. There are miniature bubbles confined to a handful of assets expanding and popping constantly because nobody believes, or can accurately assess the “intrinsic value” of these cryptocurrencies. There always becomes a price so high, that nobody wants to pay it anymore. Then the news turns negative, sentiment shifts, and the crowd moves from that “hot” asset to the next “hot asset”.

“The market is a pendulum that forever swings between unsustainable optimism (which makes stocks too expensive) and unjustified pessimism (which makes them too cheap). The Intelligent Investor is a realist who sells to optimists and buys from pessimists.” — Benjamin Graham
In cryptocurrency, our main role is to assess the cycle of emotions, and how that cycle is correlated to price, and I believe the above quote serves that purpose. In cryptocurrency, the optimists are usually proved wrong, and when the last pessimist falls, those optimists will take control yet again.

If you wish to be an intelligent investor in the cryptocurrency markets, you are about to get your chance. The speculators have gone home, the optimists have packed their bags and the pessimists are running the show. While we may be lacking in the financial data required to obtain true intrinsic value estimations we now have the opportunity to look for real companies, building the future, expanding their size and generating revenues and profits. If we assume to know that the current sentiment is negative and that we are likely sitting in the depression stage of the market cycle, we can then compare this list of high-quality companies to the current pricing, stage in the cycle and their past market values to arrive at a value approximation.

“Investing isn’t about beating others at their game. It’s about controlling yourself at your own game.”


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Having a strategy and focusing on your goal can be considered as intelligent investor why? the price is unpredictable and if you have enough knowledge you can think on some ways or things to do when the price isn't good. Being patient and also creating a wise decision. You can't just take risk you have to make sure that your doings can be have a positive outcome.
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March 03, 2019, 06:42:36 PM
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"Controlling yourself"

That gives me a hard time to do it.  Grin
I have been eaten by emotions before and up until now I still do it for a lot of times.
When you are on the live telegram of a group and you see some bad news about your invested coin it gets bad.

I think it would be better to just leave it alone. As long as you did your research with what you invested then it will grow. Just leave it alone. Do not be fed by news or some gossips. That is what I learned from here and also with trading.
If you want to be successful as an investor you will have to keep your emotions away and don’t even listen any one just focus on your goal and try to trust only your researches and make sure you are well aware of all market movements because it will help you avoid all problems to become a good investor and it will give you good investment experience.
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March 03, 2019, 08:14:30 PM
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"Controlling yourself"

That gives me a hard time to do it.  Grin
I have been eaten by emotions before and up until now I still do it for a lot of times.
When you are on the live telegram of a group and you see some bad news about your invested coin it gets bad.

I think it would be better to just leave it alone. As long as you did your research with what you invested then it will grow. Just leave it alone. Do not be fed by news or some gossips. That is what I learned from here and also with trading.
If you want to be successful as an investor you will have to keep your emotions away and don’t even listen any one just focus on your goal and try to trust only your researches and make sure you are well aware of all market movements because it will help you avoid all problems to become a good investor and it will give you good investment experience.
That's how the Strong Hands think, they do not even take into account the news, except when they are Fundamental, for the rest, they only make their movements and do not divulge them, they just wait for it to happen, of course, this is a Financial Education very high, and understand 100% the market, which, does not guarantee that you can not lose, often lose, but your profit margin is higher.

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March 03, 2019, 08:20:48 PM
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being intelligent when it comes to making an investment comes down to having a lot of experience. you might have the highest IQ in the world but as long as you don't know how the markets work you will never be able to successfully make profit from them

You should be sort of genetically predisposed (hard-wired) for trading

So I don't know if it is possible to acquire it through experience. What I refer to here is how you act and react in cases where your trading pains become unbearable (technically, you can't use your head in these moments), i.e. what you do when things go massively awry

For example, if you are predisposed to panic, then it is unlikely that you will be able to profit from trading consistently as such people are called pigs in trading parlance and for a reason (they get slaughtered when the market makes a sudden turn against them)
Absolutely, I supported what you said because the intelligent part is not enough to make a crypto currency investors successful because the level of control ones emotions when the market is not doing good is also important and almost every on this forum advice people to be patience when the market are red but how many people really have that patience?
This is why I consider trading and gambling the samething type of investment.

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March 03, 2019, 09:44:31 PM
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 im not smart investor. I am stupid. If I was smart, I'd sell half my coins.. but which of us is smart? Who knew that bitcoin would fall to $ 3500?  so no one fool anyone. we people are greedy.   And we lost it because of money ambitions.
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March 04, 2019, 12:53:24 PM
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I decided to stop being an investor, I could not analyze a project that could end successfully.
but I still survive being a trader, by trading several coins that have a good future.
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March 04, 2019, 02:01:54 PM
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im not smart investor. I am stupid. If I was smart, I'd sell half my coins.. but which of us is smart? Who knew that bitcoin would fall to $ 3500?  so no one fool anyone. we people are greedy.   And we lost it because of money ambitions.
If you are being greedy then you may face losses so try to be act smalrt and generous don't get jealous of other traders when they making more profits than you,what you need to do is more trades with less profits margin.
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March 04, 2019, 02:10:48 PM
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Theres too many to consider on how to be an intelligent investor. I will admit that i am just an average type where i rely half of the book/charts and half of the patience and mindset. I know that was enough to survive since i am surviving the bloody market for a long time. I guess being wise is better than being intelligent.

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March 04, 2019, 02:13:52 PM
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im not smart investor. I am stupid. If I was smart, I'd sell half my coins.. but which of us is smart? Who knew that bitcoin would fall to $ 3500?  so no one fool anyone. we people are greedy.   And we lost it because of money ambitions.
If you are being greedy then you may face losses so try to be act smalrt and generous don't get jealous of other traders when they making more profits than you,what you need to do is more trades with less profits margin.
greed will interfere with our soul, with greed that will hinder healthy brain performance, so that every thing we do is always wrong. think positive, and take advantage of the moment, so we can get out before the hill is formed

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March 04, 2019, 04:05:38 PM
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Short story, a guy invested in bitcoin in 2010, everyone told he is an idiot cause he invested in some imaginary technology, after some time he is a millionaire and intelligent investor. This happened with some other cryptocurrencies too, when you look a big picture I`m sure same happens with investing in anything else, in beginning everyone tells you that you are crazy, after some time it turns to be that you are very intelligent. When you look at the things like that most of the people on this forum are very intelligent investors, they invest time, energy or money into this and this is the future.



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March 04, 2019, 04:18:08 PM
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im not smart investor. I am stupid. If I was smart, I'd sell half my coins.. but which of us is smart? Who knew that bitcoin would fall to $ 3500?  so no one fool anyone. we people are greedy.   And we lost it because of money ambitions.
If you are being greedy then you may face losses so try to be act smalrt and generous don't get jealous of other traders when they making more profits than you,what you need to do is more trades with less profits margin.
greed will interfere with our soul, with greed that will hinder healthy brain performance, so that every thing we do is always wrong. think positive, and take advantage of the moment, so we can get out before the hill is formed
No soul wants money only our brain are doing this because we let our brain to control us,thing practually and invest on anything to make profits.
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March 04, 2019, 04:53:27 PM
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I can't say that i am an intelligent cryptocurrency investors even i had already earned a lot of money from my investments because i also still experience scam and mostly i don't get enough profit from my investment. That is why i still ask for help from my friend who also invest in crypto before i invest my money.
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