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April 04, 2019, 02:25:32 PM
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Really, the wrong place to be asking, but, well, um...

What are peoples thoughts on Nuclear power? Do you think Nuclear could be big in mining Bitcoin in the future at all as coal and other 'dirties' get priced out?
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April 04, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
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Really, the wrong place to be asking, but, well, um...

What are peoples thoughts on Nuclear power? Do you think Nuclear could be big in mining Bitcoin in the future at all as coal and other 'dirties' get priced out?

No  it is always at risk  to an earthquake or tsunami or Homer Simpson hitting the wrong button.

Even  if nothing goes wrong  there is no place to store waste safely.

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April 04, 2019, 03:48:16 PM
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Plus its anything but cheap. The plant is expensive, the fuel is expensive, and most of all, disposal is expensive. Its only advantage is that each refueling takes decades. If the plant is already built and has a schedule for its closure (which can take years) then sure, but ideally it should be avoided and certainly don't encourage to build more.

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April 04, 2019, 04:58:47 PM
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The ideal solution would be bringing all the wasted fuel to antarctica  and having it guarding by four or five Countries.  Of course many would say you are then destroying or risking the destruction of the Antarctic if a natural disaster happens such as an earth quake or a meteor strike.

As I kid I thought or was told Nuclear power was a good thing.  But I predate:
3 mile island
chernobyl
the one in japan (? the name of that one)

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April 04, 2019, 06:25:35 PM
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Nuclear power in the US, since we are still using 1960s technology, isn't that great. Most of the issues regarding shutdowns for refueling, and even the types of waste generated, were solved or at least progressed substantially in the last 30 years or so. But because people here are poorly educated about all of that, we keep being afraid of mostly nothing and haven't licensed a new reactor since Phil was probably in high school.

Chernobyl was a deliberate disaster caused by idiots with poor designs and safety measures turned off. Entirely man-made and basically impossible under any other conditions.
3 Mile Island's second reactor is still operating today.
Fukushima survived an earthquake almost a full point larger than it was built to withstand (among the strongest recorded), and then a tsunami, and still almost worked out. The meltdown issues they had were exacerbated by an older reactor design without some of the essential upgrades everywhere else in the world (except maybe Russia) implemented decades ago, and wouldn't have happened at all had the backup generators for redundant cooling pumps not been under several feet of salt water.

Nuclear would be an excellent carryover to getting rid of coal/gas while still improving the tech and infrastructure for a purely renewable grid.

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April 04, 2019, 11:05:52 PM
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Yeah the anti-nuclear intolerance is like saying that: since planes crash and kill hundreds of people, and some plane building companies don't do it right, we shouldn't have planes.

In fact nuclear power should be promoted way more so that more research is done into it.

Why? Well the obvious ... what is the sun? A large ball of nuclear fusion reaction (of course different to fission)
That's where it should be headed ... abundant low cost pure energy.
Fission was the first step, the second step of sustainable fusion still hasn't been achieved.

(Yeah I still hope for 'Chain Reaction' to become reality one day)

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April 05, 2019, 12:13:51 AM
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Things may be starting to look up for nuclear power in the US.

A bipartisan group of 15 US senators re-introduced a bill in late March 2019 that, if passed, would authorize the US government to enter into 40-year power purchase agreements (PPAs) with nuclear power companies. Current laws only authorize a maximum duration of 10 years for nuclear PPAs.

The bill also directs the Department of Energy's Office of Nuclear Energy to develop a 10-year strategic plan for supporting research into advanced nuclear reactors.

This means that the US could, in the not-too-distant future, see smaller and more modular reactors that run on safer fuel, like Terrapower's traveling wave reactor that runs on depleted uranium, become a reality.
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April 05, 2019, 12:45:27 AM
Last edit: April 05, 2019, 01:31:32 AM by frodocooper
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Or is terrapower a pipe dream con like the pretty blood test lady  was

nice 2014 news

http://www.newser.com/story/196987/youngest-female-billionaire-30-revolutionizes-blood-tests.html

not so nice 2019 news

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elizabeth-holmes-committed-fraud-massive-155700628.html

so terrapower.com  2019 nice news on their website below I quoted it.

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TWR Technology: Preparing Nuclear Energy for Global Growth

Its innovative design results in a reactor that can operate with higher thermal efficiency and consume uranium resources in a more efficient, clean and safe manner than previously possible.

Unlike traditional nuclear reactors, this technology will be capable of utilizing fuel made from depleted uranium, which is currently a waste byproduct of the uranium enrichment process. Its unique design gradually converts the fuel through a nuclear reaction without removing it from the reactor’s core, eliminating the need for reprocessing, generating heat and producing electricity over a much longer period of continuous operation. Additionally, eliminating reprocessing reduces proliferation concerns, lowers the overall cost of the nuclear energy process, and helps to protect the environment by making use of a waste byproduct and reducing the production of greenhouse gases.

To date, TerraPower has achieved significant success in the development of this advanced nuclear reactor design, largely through progress made by leveraging public-private partnerships, seeking excellence in commercial partners, and forging a new supply chain for fuels and materials. This has led to the completion of the core concept design for a prototype of the TWR program.

Construction of a TWR engineering simulator is an important milestone, as it puts engineers in the control room of a virtual TWR system to study the reactor’s operation from start-up to full power. By pairing cutting-edge computing power with real-world data, TerraPower continues to improve the TWR design, analyzing it using new seismic, physics and mechanical methodologies. Together, these activities bring the design ever closer to construction of the first TWR technology.

TerraPower aims to achieve startup of its prototype TWR reactor in the mid-2020s, followed by global commercial deployment.

Is it too good to be true and a pipe dream/con  like Liz was?

Note: I have heard cold fusion has been produced--- hint it was not.

I am not anti nuke as much as I am anti rich fucks hurting us with lies.

I also forgot to mention nine nuke subs lost at sea google it.

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