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Even the games that need skills and abilities rely on luck.
So you can spend as much time in learning and developing skills
It doesn't really rely on luck, there's a points that it has luck associated with it but that doesn't mean that it really relies on luck. but it will come 1 time that luck will f*cks you off.
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Surely success in gambling needs hard work you will have to spend time in improving your skills you will have to collect informative things which can lead you to success in gambling. Nothing comes without pain you will give your time so that you will be rewired so keep your stamina high and work as hard as you can to polish your gaming skills.
I will not treat gambling as hard work. I consider this to be intellectual work. And everything that is done in such work should be done with pleasure. That's the right way to do because gambling if we consider seeking for profit needs us to be smart. It's a kind of venture where we can use the popular sayings "work smart not hard" , however, due to the fact that we don't have the edge on the odds offered, most of us just loss in the long run, this is a very hard way of making money, those who succeed are people who are gifted. Only a few people who can get those gifted, the rest of them cannot get the same thing. No matter how smart we are, we still need that gift aka luck to help us to win in gambling. I agree that we should do "work smart not hard" but it very hard to do in real life. Maybe we can say that the hard work in the gambling games will be spending the money to roll the bets or to play gambling games in some period, learning the lesson to have more skills, having much experience in gambling. |
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Surely success in gambling needs hard work you will have to spend time in improving your skills you will have to collect informative things which can lead you to success in gambling. Nothing comes without pain you will give your time so that you will be rewired so keep your stamina high and work as hard as you can to polish your gaming skills.
I will not treat gambling as hard work. I consider this to be intellectual work. And everything that is done in such work should be done with pleasure. That's the right way to do because gambling if we consider seeking for profit needs us to be smart. It's a kind of venture where we can use the popular sayings "work smart not hard" , however, due to the fact that we don't have the edge on the odds offered, most of us just loss in the long run, this is a very hard way of making money, those who succeed are people who are gifted. Only a few people who can get those gifted, the rest of them cannot get the same thing. No matter how smart we are, we still need that gift aka luck to help us to win in gambling. I agree that we should do "work smart not hard" but it very hard to do in real life. Maybe we can say that the hard work in the gambling games will be spending the money to roll the bets or to play gambling games in some period, learning the lesson to have more skills, having much experience in gambling. In life there is no such thing as easy if we want to achieve something, yes, it's hard but as long as it's possible to be profitable in gambling, those who aim for success should not easily give up if they believe in their selves than they can be a successful gambler. As for me, I have already give up that dream a long time ago, I still think that I can make money sometimes but since I learn my lessons, I know how to handle myself in gambling, I'm more on focus on the fun than the aim to be consistent as I'm not gifted like the other gamblers. |
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August 27, 2019, 02:17:34 PM |
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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.
This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?
This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.
Yes sometimes hard work in gambling count because id you focus and learn what are the techniques in gambling is really hard to to make it in a short time, you will spend a long time in gambling like a hard work to make it perfect for your winnings. So l beleive hard work in gambling is counted to make winnings. |
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For me, yes hard working counts in gambling because you can't only trust in luck some game in gambling needs strategy and skills so that you can win easily or you have a considerable percentage to win/overcome your other opponents. Experience is very significant in gambling, especially if you are playing some poker because you can master your bluffing skills, card counting, and many more.  Experience is much required with gambling. To gain this experience one needs to loss big. Very few get to be lucky with gambling. From my understanding hard work with gambling gets good results when it is done with sports betting, which means data gathering about the players and all about the game will help in picking the right odds. With casinos I don't find hard work pays. Agree with you all kind of eating needs knowledge and to get this knowledge you will have to work hard it takes researchers and history reading ability you will need to collect as much as information completely collect about the game as it is not good to jump in gambling without any idea an knowledge pre planned gambling gets success at the end. |
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August 28, 2019, 03:33:14 AM |
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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.
This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?
This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.
Anything that you focus into will yield you result, but gambling is a different arena, there are intricacies and pitfalls that you should watch out, the first thing that you need to develop I believe is controlling if you don't have it you will not know when and how to stop when you are winning and when you are losing. of all the fields gambling offer a different perspective compared to other fields, you will end up losing a lot of winning so much but each rewarding once you master your control and develop your own strategy. I couldn't agree more. Self-control is very important since we are talking about gambling, which involves strong urges or winning as always no matter what it takes, and this kind of mindset is kind of tricky, sometimes it has good results, and sometimes it is the other way around. In gambling hard work doesn't recognize by the house edge, it doesn't care who you are, how powerful you are in real life, how rich you are, but what it cares about is how you are going to lose your money, that what is all matters. So, in short, it is important that you know, by yourself that you won't go anywhere in gambling if what you are thinking always is winning, even though the reality is the exact opposite of it, there is no harm on trying, but there will be harm if you'll insist yourself that you are going to win big in gambling if you don't stop, be smart about your decisions. |
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August 28, 2019, 03:35:05 AM |
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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.
This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?
This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.
Anything that you focus into will yield you result, but gambling is a different arena, there are intricacies and pitfalls that you should watch out, the first thing that you need to develop I believe is controlling if you don't have it you will not know when and how to stop when you are winning and when you are losing. of all the fields gambling offer a different perspective compared to other fields, you will end up losing a lot of winning so much but each rewarding once you master your control and develop your own strategy. I couldn't agree more. Self-control is very important since we are talking about gambling, which involves strong urges or winning as always no matter what it takes, and this kind of mindset is kind of tricky, sometimes it has good results, and sometimes it is the other way around. In gambling hard work doesn't recognize by the house edge, it doesn't care who you are, how powerful you are in real life, how rich you are, but what it cares about is how you are going to lose your money, that what is all matters. So, in short, it is important that you know, by yourself that you won't go anywhere in gambling if what you are thinking always is winning, even though the reality is the exact opposite of it, there is no harm on trying, but there will be harm if you'll insist yourself that you are going to win big in gambling if you don't stop, be smart about your decisions. |
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August 28, 2019, 04:08:47 AM |
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Only a few people who can get those gifted, the rest of them cannot get the same thing. No matter how smart we are, we still need that gift aka luck to help us to win in gambling. I agree that we should do "work smart not hard" but it very hard to do in real life. Maybe we can say that the hard work in the gambling games will be spending the money to roll the bets or to play gambling games in some period, learning the lesson to have more skills, having much experience in gambling. In life there is no such thing as easy if we want to achieve something, yes, it's hard but as long as it's possible to be profitable in gambling, those who aim for success should not easily give up if they believe in their selves than they can be a successful gambler. As for me, I have already give up that dream a long time ago, I still think that I can make money sometimes but since I learn my lessons, I know how to handle myself in gambling, I'm more on focus on the fun than the aim to be consistent as I'm not gifted like the other gamblers. If people want to get success in gambling, they will need to know that it is very hard, and it needs money and time together besides learning about the games. But I don't think that many gamblers can stay for a long time just because they still want to reach their goals in gambling. I thought that would be only for a few people who don't give up in gambling, but I don't know how much money they will spend before they can be a successful gambler. I don't use gambling as a source income, or I don't want to be a successful gambler because I realize that will only make me addicted to gambling. I think that when I am playing gambling for a long time, soon or later, it will suck my money until it's gone and the last thing that I will get is becoming addicted gambling itself. |
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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.
This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?
This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.
Anything that you focus into will yield you result, but gambling is a different arena, there are intricacies and pitfalls that you should watch out, the first thing that you need to develop I believe is controlling if you don't have it you will not know when and how to stop when you are winning and when you are losing. of all the fields gambling offer a different perspective compared to other fields, you will end up losing a lot of winning so much but each rewarding once you master your control and develop your own strategy. I couldn't agree more. Self-control is very important since we are talking about gambling, which involves strong urges or winning as always no matter what it takes, and this kind of mindset is kind of tricky, sometimes it has good results, and sometimes it is the other way around. In gambling hard work doesn't recognize by the house edge, it doesn't care who you are, how powerful you are in real life, how rich you are, but what it cares about is how you are going to lose your money, that what is all matters. So, in short, it is important that you know, by yourself that you won't go anywhere in gambling if what you are thinking always is winning, even though the reality is the exact opposite of it, there is no harm on trying, but there will be harm if you'll insist yourself that you are going to win big in gambling if you don't stop, be smart about your decisions. Not sometimes but always it happens when you think about to gamble you take it very easy and you think this is child's play but this is not reality if you want to get success you will have to work hard and to collect knowledge about what actually gambling is your research is your only hard work you will have to do for gambling. Yes never think anything to be that easy day you will get it without any hard work. Gambling is fun for so many people but this is wrong we are getting money from something then it is not good to think it’s easy and never under estimate anything try to gamble with all your abilities you will get reward. |
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Well, I think that this thread is a part of an eternal discussion: do you treat gambling as a hobby or as a way of making money? If you want some thrill and you don't care about money, then surely, you don't have to work your ass off.
Though if you want to be successful, you have to spend time on your research and figuring out the best way to participate in different kinds of gambling activities. No matter if is it poker, dice, sports betting or anything else.
Everything in life needs knowledge and skills. Gambling is not an exception, even though that for gambling you need some luck from time to time.
Even the games that need skills and abilities rely on luck. So you can spend as much time in learning and developing skills but it will come 1 time that luck will f*cks you off. Luck does not always go against you. There are times when you are lucky and Win. This could really make you change your fortune through gambling. So we need not to blame bad luck and hope for good luck in gambling. Surely success in gambling needs hard work you will have to spend time in improving your skills you will have to collect informative things which can lead you to success in gambling. Nothing comes without pain you will give your time so that you will be rewired so keep your stamina high and work as hard as you can to polish your gaming skills.
I will not treat gambling as hard work. I consider this to be intellectual work. And everything that is done in such work should be done with pleasure. Gambling is not really a hard work, its rather a game. It's a game of luck in which you play & win or you may play & lose all. |
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For me, yes hard working counts in gambling because you can't only trust in luck some game in gambling needs strategy and skills so that you can win easily or you have a considerable percentage to win/overcome your other opponents. Experience is very significant in gambling, especially if you are playing some poker because you can master your bluffing skills, card counting, and many more. Experience is much required with gambling. To gain this experience one needs to loss big. Very few get to be lucky with gambling. From my understanding hard work with gambling gets good results when it is done with sports betting, which means data gathering about the players and all about the game will help in picking the right odds. With casinos I don't find hard work pays. Agree with you all kind of eating needs knowledge and to get this knowledge you will have to work hard it takes researchers and history reading ability you will need to collect as much as information completely collect about the game as it is not good to jump in gambling without any idea an knowledge pre planned gambling gets success at the end. I also agree that gambling is not only about luck, hard work in many ways also affects the final outcome of gambling, especially in games that are not pure on luck for the result, of course other factors also play a role. but I admit that work hard doesn't have a big effect, maybe only around 1-30% of the possible profit |
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Only a few people who can get those gifted, the rest of them cannot get the same thing. No matter how smart we are, we still need that gift aka luck to help us to win in gambling. I agree that we should do "work smart not hard" but it very hard to do in real life. Maybe we can say that the hard work in the gambling games will be spending the money to roll the bets or to play gambling games in some period, learning the lesson to have more skills, having much experience in gambling. In life there is no such thing as easy if we want to achieve something, yes, it's hard but as long as it's possible to be profitable in gambling, those who aim for success should not easily give up if they believe in their selves than they can be a successful gambler. As for me, I have already give up that dream a long time ago, I still think that I can make money sometimes but since I learn my lessons, I know how to handle myself in gambling, I'm more on focus on the fun than the aim to be consistent as I'm not gifted like the other gamblers. If people want to get success in gambling, they will need to know that it is very hard, and it needs money and time together besides learning about the games. But I don't think that many gamblers can stay for a long time just because they still want to reach their goals in gambling. I thought that would be only for a few people who don't give up in gambling, but I don't know how much money they will spend before they can be a successful gambler. I don't use gambling as a source income, or I don't want to be a successful gambler because I realize that will only make me addicted to gambling. I think that when I am playing gambling for a long time, soon or later, it will suck my money until it's gone and the last thing that I will get is becoming addicted gambling itself. If by "successful gambler" you mean earning consistently from gambling then you don't have to worry about addiction. If it pays your bill then it is no longer addiction. Addiction in my opinion is regularly wasting time or money or both on fruitless things. Besides, some gambling games actually help improve the mind. Hello michellee, I sent you some merit... Not reflecting yet. You deserve some... wonder why you have none. |
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For me, yes hard working counts in gambling because you can't only trust in luck some game in gambling needs strategy and skills so that you can win easily or you have a considerable percentage to win/overcome your other opponents. Experience is very significant in gambling, especially if you are playing some poker because you can master your bluffing skills, card counting, and many more. Experience is much required with gambling. To gain this experience one needs to loss big. Very few get to be lucky with gambling. From my understanding hard work with gambling gets good results when it is done with sports betting, which means data gathering about the players and all about the game will help in picking the right odds. With casinos I don't find hard work pays. Agree with you all kind of eating needs knowledge and to get this knowledge you will have to work hard it takes researchers and history reading ability you will need to collect as much as information completely collect about the game as it is not good to jump in gambling without any idea an knowledge pre planned gambling gets success at the end. I also agree that gambling is not only about luck, hard work in many ways also affects the final outcome of gambling, especially in games that are not pure on luck for the result, of course other factors also play a role. but I admit that work hard doesn't have a big effect, maybe only around 1-30% of the possible profit 1-30% is still a huge possibility, we are talking about gambling here. Despite the fact that there are games that don't usually depend on luck, still, hard work is not enough. Hard work counts on jobs, on your career but in terms of gambling that is mostly depends on luck, it is a no. |
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It works in a case of Sport Betting
if you want to win on sport betting you need to study stats historic and recent form
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It works in a case of Sport Betting
if you want to win on sport betting you need to study stats historic and recent form
You don't need to be hard working if you are a fan of the sports you are betting in. For example you are a fan of basketball and you always watch their games, you will be able to predict the result of the games. I don't usually do sports betting but if you can analyze games, you can win and for that is not hard work but knowledge. |
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boyptc
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September 01, 2019, 01:42:43 PM |
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It works in a case of Sport Betting
if you want to win on sport betting you need to study stats historic and recent form
You work hard in sports betting but you'll get no guarantee with its result and it varies. You don't need to be hard working if you are a fan of the sports you are betting in.
I reckon this but there's still no guarantee even you are a die hard fan of that sports/team. |
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September 01, 2019, 02:00:10 PM |
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It works in a case of Sport Betting
if you want to win on sport betting you need to study stats historic and recent form
You don't need to be hard working if you are a fan of the sports you are betting in. Sorry but I don’t think it’s relevant regarding the question?theres too way far on what’s your views and what’s the answer For example you are a fan of basketball and you always watch their games, you will be able to predict the result of the games.
On what basis that you can predict the result?sportsman has always their skills on them and even the low ranked one can beat the highest ranking ,because no one knows the outcome until game is finish I don't usually do sports betting but if you can analyze games, you can win and for that is not hard work but knowledge.
Analyzation the games is indeed but assuring the wins is not indeed |
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