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May 20, 2019, 03:18:57 PM
Last edit: May 22, 2019, 05:31:51 AM by frodocooper
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And here are some pretty pics:

https://qiniu.microbt.com/uploading/13_dbe4abf9993eb524836302a7a537bc49.jpg
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At least now i know what the things are supposed to look like. The M21 is suspiciously looking like the M3, but that efficiency looks like the M10. i wonder why... 16nm chips? The M20 seems to match the 12nm efficiency rate.

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Last edit: May 21, 2019, 04:24:49 AM by philipma1957
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Yeah I usually talk with Laurent on pangolin telegram channel.

So far no reply but it is midnight in China so maybe a reply in about 9 -10 hours.

Oh my wimpy m10 is not restarting I will try later today.



I pulled the hottest board from the m10  the one with highest hash numbers and set unit to low it did fire up and is doing about 13.00 th on low with 2 boards.  It does sip power under 720 watts.

and laurent got back to me I may get gear shipped very soon

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Status update:
I'll receive a M20S unit for review in the beginning of June.

I will get on to it as soon as I receive it
and I will keep you guys updated.

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I have been contacted and told mine will Ship May 31 or June 1.

I will do a youtube on it and attach it to your review.
As always if you want to sell it off after your review I will buy it from you.
I will take it and put it in Clifton Buildout.

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Last edit: May 22, 2019, 05:34:35 AM by frodocooper
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Thanks Phil that's who responded to my email this time around. I'm waiting on an update for the shipdate as well, not to disappointed though. This way I can get my spare parts for the M10 shipped out at the same time. Just wondering did any of us grab anything besides the M20S, might not be a lot of diversity in these reviews Smiley.



I have been contacted and told mine will Ship May 31 or June 1.

I will do a youtube on it and attach it to your review.
As always if you want to sell it off after your review I will buy it from you.
I will take it and put it in Clifton Buildout.

Pretty sweet deal, to be able to get in on that now. Looking forward to your review as well Hagss.


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Pangolin have the M20 and M21S on their site now as well as the M20S and M21 they had before.

I think that's the whole range now from MicroBT.

M20S 70Th/s (+-5%). Power consumption is 3360W (+-10%). 48W/TH - $2025
M20 45Th/s (+-5%). Power consumption is 2160W (+-10%). 48W/TH - $1699
M21S 56Th/s (+-5%). Power consumption is 3360W (+-10%). 60W/TH - $1650
M21 31Th/s (+-5%). Power consumption is 1860W (+-10%). 60W/TH - $850

Not up on Whatsminer.net yet but soon no doubt.

But they have been up on the MicroBT site for a while now priced in Yuan https://www.microbt.com/mall/BTmall.html

Everything is Aug/Sep delivery now.

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May 28, 2019, 01:26:08 PM
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Hey, they have 2 distributors you can order from. MicroBT is the manufacturer. It's not that bad once you get your head wrapped around that. See here under MicroBT.
Pangolinminer.com and Whatsminer.net are the distributors. Hope that helps; unfortunately it's a bit of a long pre-order.


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thanks for the reply... do you think microbt.com is a trusted website for the manufacturer?
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M21s has a batch shipping Late July.

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Yeah it looks like a decent unit.

55 th and 3300 watts but July delivery  price is 2070

vs

70th and 3300 watts but aug/sept delivery price is 2454

We were maxed at Clifton but owner decided to add 65-70kwatts  to the 65-70kwatts we had.

So I am looking hard for more gear.
with coins at 8700+  gear supply has dried up a lot.

I have 1 m20s
supposed to ship the 20th of may
now should ship the 1st of June

I would order one or 2 of these m21s models for July  but not til I get my already late m20s.

I am running 536th at Clifton
and 83th In other locations.   total of 619th

I am due 1 m20s 70th
and 1 or 2 A1041's about 30-60 th

I estimate I need 40kwatts of gear  to fill clifton. If I had the overdue m20s it would be easy to order more from pangolin.
At this point in time I would say they are good to me as a customer but I have seen too much shit happen from 2012 to 2019 to blindly order 10 of these.

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Fast and loose is never a good way to play. Seems all whatsminer demo's are delayed and pricing is going up. I think I mentioned what I'm looking at personally in our dm's phil but hardware is pretty scarce even for resellers making it a little harder to thoughtfully plan upgrades or additions.

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Fast and loose is never a good way to play. Seems all whatsminer demo's are delayed and pricing is going up. I think I mentioned what I'm looking at personally in our dm's phil but hardware is pretty scarce even for resellers making it a little harder to thoughtfully plan upgrades or additions.

Yeah I may just have to wait for a bit.

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I'm still eagerly awaiting confirmed shipping, I spoke to them a few nights ago it's supposed to be shipped this week. I should also be seeing a PSU and bridge board to see if I can get my gimpy M10 to perform like the others. Overall they are not bad, but this delay is bothering me a bit, if June had been the ship or receive date I know I wouldn't have pre-ordered. I'm sure I'll be all smiles once I get that monster in the garage, but until then it's annoying.


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Fast and loose is never a good way to play. Seems all whatsminer demo's are delayed and pricing is going up. I think I mentioned what I'm looking at personally in our dm's phil but hardware is pretty scarce even for resellers making it a little harder to thoughtfully plan upgrades or additions.

yeah, thought they are better than Bitm@in but yet they are bumping the prices, and for a 3 month delivery!
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Demand is up and so is market. Unfortunately units will only trend to higher pricing most likely. 

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Sadly, and even if we correct 20-30% prices will remain delayed Sad   I sold a s4 for $500 in 2017  s9's where like 3k iirc.

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yep  I delayed purchasing s17's and t17's  while waiting for the demo model here.

First date was:      May 10 for the demo to ship
Second date was:  May 20 for the demo to ship
Third date is:        May 31 for the demo to ship

I have 1 s17 it runs great. I would have purchased more, but the m20 demo was due to ship may 10 so I waited.
I did this because I was treated fairly well with my m10 gear.

So my choice  means I have less gear for the next 3 to 4 months.

Oh well  shit happens.

Hoping for  gear somewhere as we added 60-70kwatts of power.

I have 10 or 12 kwatts I can do   which means I am short  50-60kwatts of gear.

if summer heat is factored in I am still short 40-50kwatts of gear.

Price took off sooner than I preferred. Happens.

the demo is a 3.3kwatt
maybe some avalons  come and are 3.6 kwatts

that is 7 kwatts  drops me to 33-43 kwatts short.

that is 10 m20's or 13 s17's  would love to have them on the way.

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May 29, 2019, 05:19:46 PM
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We were setting up for a demo but DJminer never sent an invoice or payment details. So we'll sit this one out at this point with all the delays.

I imagine manufacturers are going to mine units longer with price up. Bitmain already looking at Oct for next batch release since Sept was last available. T3's are pushed to aug/sept as well. I have my new fan coming and will be ordering another pdu, and probably a couple of T2T's since they ship in two weeks.

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May 29, 2019, 06:03:46 PM
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We were setting up for a demo but DJminer never sent an invoice or payment details. So we'll sit this one out at this point with all the delays.

I imagine manufacturers are going to mine units longer with price up. Bitmain already looking at Oct for next batch release since Sept was last available. T3's are pushed to aug/sept as well. I have my new fan coming and will be ordering another pdu, and probably a couple of T2T's since they ship in two weeks.

It is annoying as I supported them when coin prices sucked.
Buying multiple m10s.

But it is what happens when $$$ get big fast.

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May 30, 2019, 03:54:46 PM
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did anyone place order from whatsminer.net?
are they legit? they price is cheaper than pangolin
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