[FLAGGED] [scam] BetKing.io broke ICO promise and dropped token value 99%

[BetKing.io]

BillyBurns: I don't think you're Dean's alt account. But know that users have been tagged for promoting scams before, and since the consensus is that BetKing's ICO turned into a scam, it's probably time to stop promoting the site.

Consensus by idiots in here that can't use logic or think for themselves. Never mind not being able to provide a shred of evidence or even round up any other BKB holders that actually believe they were scammed.

My inbox is empty, why is no one demanding their investment back from this scam?
You can pm here, email me, telegram me. I'm not getting anything.

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[BillyBurns]

Your detective work is very, very poor.

That's funny, coming from someone who claims JollyGood is game-protect, and claims asche is likely to be marlboroza.

However what you are doing is bordering on doxing someone else just because they post about the site? That is terrible behaviour and surely is against the forum rules.

If someone posts something by himself, analyzing the screenshot isn't considered doxing.

Instead of getting off on the little fame you get from these trolls worshipping you why don't you stick to your retirement with your gf and your bike?
Or is selling btc too hard for you too still since running from the US?

Please refrain from going off-topic.

Screenshot of BetKing.io's recently Sent feedback:

I love the trust abuse. Very mature!

Disclaimer:
Note that meriting a post doesn't necessarily mean I agree with the post. It means the post is worth reading, and in this case can also mean it's worth reading because it says a lot about the person posting it.

BillyBurns: I don't think you're Dean's alt account. But know that users have been tagged for promoting scams before, and since the consensus is that BetKing's ICO turned into a scam, it's probably time to stop promoting the site.

concensus? Consensus by who? The guys that think that was irrefutable evidence? Or the guys who think breaking forum rules day after day is kool because they can get away with it, or the guys who make claims as facts when all they have is speculation? The only scam I know of is the fact you guys are all teamed up breaking rules on a witch hunt, Look at my bad merit/trust, I don't deserve this. You abusers gave it to me and I would like to see one person justify it.

[LoyceV]

My inbox is empty, why is no one demanding their investment back from this scam?

I tried, you told me I can sell my $700+ tokens for $8. Did you expect more emails after that?

You can pm here, email me, telegram me. I'm not getting anything.

I sent you a PM on January 30, 2019:

Howdy Dean,

Since your new EOS/BKT adventure doesn't appeal to me that much: can I sell back the BKB tokens I still have (in my Betking account) at $0.099 a piece, so my BetKing token holder adventure ends?

Thanks,
Loyce

You never thought once to actually pm or email me to ask for info before posting shit even though I've paid you for jobs in the past?

I didn't get a reply.

Or the guys who think breaking forum rules day after day is kool because they can get away with it

You seem to share your obsession with forum rules with Dean. Just so you know, you've broken forum rules by yourself, right here in this topic (use the edit button instead of posting 3 posts in a row).

The only scam I know of is the fact you guys are all teamed up breaking rules on a witch hunt

I tell you what: give me $700, I'll give you a made-up token and promise you it'll be worth $700, then offer you $8 for it in return. If you don't understand that's not a nice thing, I'm open to do that deal

Look at my bad merit/trust, I don't deserve this. You abusers gave it to me and I would like to see one person justify it.

You have no red trust from any DT-member. JollyGood is excluded by 2 DT1-members:

Trust list for: JollyGood (38 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-03-23_Sat_05.36h)
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JollyGood is Trusted by:
1. IconFirm (25 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. johnsmithx (7 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~JollyGood is Distrusted by:
1. DarkStar_ (DT1! (24) 646 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. TeMHuK (9 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. zloy_hulk (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. blurryeyed (4 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. xtraelv (DT1! (19) 1023 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. A_Creature (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. translocated (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. yurez83 (17 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. Nihrupka (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

I encourage you (and anyone else) to set your own custom Trust list.

[StackGambler]

Oh, Ryan. You never fail to amuse. Excellent detective work. I'd consider that pretty irrefutable proof that they're the same person.

This is the problem with these trolls, you consider that pretty irrefutable proof... When your making some pretty big accusations. I would hate for your opinion to be at the hands of another human being on trial. You don't have the ability to look at things objectively, you want Dean to be me so you will let your subjective feelings cloud your judgement. This post by you show's that your claims should have little credability in the future.

Rhavar should have 100% not posted this, he should have tried to get in contact with me and explain what he had and ask me to verify or give him proof. I'm sure he was sitting there feeling so gleeful as he compiled his circumstancial evidence. So proud to unleash his findings.

Quoting devans, I'm not a judge, nor am I the internet police. My opinion doesn't matter. People are smart and are free to make their own assumptions. All I will say is, for the intents and purposes of this discussion, which to me is nothing but entertainment since I have no stakes in the situation, I have no doubt that you are Dean (thanks to the evidence that RHavar provided). If I did have some stake in the matter, or if I was in a jury, then I'd probably have a closer look, but since that's not the case, and seeing that I don't have a burning desire to waste time on scammers like you guys, I'll pass on that.

[asche]

That's funny, coming from someone who claims JollyGood is game-protect, and claims asche is likely to be marlboroza.

This is the best comparison I have ever been involved in. Love it

Regarding that retaliory feedback, I understand quite well what happened, thank you for your concern Dean.

I have no doubt that you are Dean (thanks to the evidence that RHavar provided).

You should stop misusing the word evidence.

[BillyBurns]

Oh, Ryan. You never fail to amuse. Excellent detective work. I'd consider that pretty irrefutable proof that they're the same person.

This is the problem with these trolls, you consider that pretty irrefutable proof... When your making some pretty big accusations. I would hate for your opinion to be at the hands of another human being on trial. You don't have the ability to look at things objectively, you want Dean to be me so you will let your subjective feelings cloud your judgement. This post by you show's that your claims should have little credability in the future.

Rhavar should have 100% not posted this, he should have tried to get in contact with me and explain what he had and ask me to verify or give him proof. I'm sure he was sitting there feeling so gleeful as he compiled his circumstancial evidence. So proud to unleash his findings.

Quoting devans, I'm not a judge, nor am I the internet police. My opinion doesn't matter. People are smart and are free to make their own assumptions. All I will say is, for the intents and purposes of this discussion, which to me is nothing but entertainment since I have no stakes in the situation, I have no doubt that you are Dean (thanks to the evidence that RHavar provided). If I did have some stake in the matter, or if I was in a jury, then I'd probably have a closer look, but since that's not the case, and seeing that I don't have a burning desire to waste time on scammers like you guys, I'll pass on that.

irrefutable LOL, btw I enjoyed your youtube video was A+ well done.

[StackGambler]

Oh, Ryan. You never fail to amuse. Excellent detective work. I'd consider that pretty irrefutable proof that they're the same person.

This is the problem with these trolls, you consider that pretty irrefutable proof... When your making some pretty big accusations. I would hate for your opinion to be at the hands of another human being on trial. You don't have the ability to look at things objectively, you want Dean to be me so you will let your subjective feelings cloud your judgement. This post by you show's that your claims should have little credability in the future.

Rhavar should have 100% not posted this, he should have tried to get in contact with me and explain what he had and ask me to verify or give him proof. I'm sure he was sitting there feeling so gleeful as he compiled his circumstancial evidence. So proud to unleash his findings.

Quoting devans, I'm not a judge, nor am I the internet police. My opinion doesn't matter. People are smart and are free to make their own assumptions. All I will say is, for the intents and purposes of this discussion, which to me is nothing but entertainment since I have no stakes in the situation, I have no doubt that you are Dean (thanks to the evidence that RHavar provided). If I did have some stake in the matter, or if I was in a jury, then I'd probably have a closer look, but since that's not the case, and seeing that I don't have a burning desire to waste time on scammers like you guys, I'll pass on that.

irrefutable LOL, btw I enjoyed your youtube video was A+ well done.

Thank you!

In any case, you should probably consider removing what has been proven a scam site from your profile signature...

[BetKing.io]

In any case, you should probably consider removing what has been proven a scam site from your profile signature...

Proven  good one

[StackGambler]

In any case, you should probably consider removing what has been proven a scam site from your profile signature...

Proven  good one

I guess it depends on what you consider proof. I would personally trust the judgement of seven independent DT members.

[marlboroza]

Your detective work is very, very poor.

That's funny, coming from someone who claims JollyGood is game-protect, and claims asche is likely to be marlboroza.

Likely alt.
Perhaps BetKing.io should change that negative on my trust page and edit it with "likely alt of asche" 

Look at my bad merit/trust, I don't deserve this. You abusers gave it to me and I would like to see one person justify it.

You have no red trust from any DT-member. JollyGood is excluded by 2 DT1-members:

Looks like someone logged in to wrong account.

Btw, BillyBurns recently sent positive trust this to scammer:

[JollyGood]

-snip-

BillyBurns (aka GNIKTEB on BetKing as seen on the screenshot) appears to be an admin/moderator on BetKing. His name is red in chat, and so is Dean's. All normal player names are blue. I think it's more likely that he is someone hired by Dean. (program choice is weird though; why Windscribe & ProtonVPN?)

Yes he tends to behave like a lapdog that attacks anybody that exposes scammer Dean Nolan or asks questions that scammer Dean Nolan finds difficult to answer as he would incriminate himself

Given the red GNIKTEB admin user name on betking he has taken it upon himself as a "job" to protect his master scammer Dean Nolan

[LoyceV]

Look at my bad merit/trust, I don't deserve this. You abusers gave it to me and I would like to see one person justify it.

You have no red trust from any DT-member. JollyGood is excluded by 2 DT1-members:

Looks like someone logged in to wrong account.

Good catch, I had a different interpretation, but this makes more sense.

[BillyBurns]

Your detective work is very, very poor.

That's funny, coming from someone who claims JollyGood is game-protect, and claims asche is likely to be marlboroza.

Likely alt.
Perhaps BetKing.io should change that negative on my trust page and edit it with "likely alt of asche" 

Look at my bad merit/trust, I don't deserve this. You abusers gave it to me and I would like to see one person justify it.

You have no red trust from any DT-member. JollyGood is excluded by 2 DT1-members:

Looks like someone logged in to wrong account.

Btw, BillyBurns recently sent positive trust this to scammer:

Thanks for negative trust. See how willingly you gave it to me, what is the reason?

[JollyGood]

What Dean did is obviously horrible. Loyce, thank you for the write-up. However, the way I see it, a part of the blame also falls into the hands of the victim. This wasn't a very clever or well thought out scam at all... any person, especially in the crypto world, who guarantees that a token won't fall below a certain point is probably scamming. I mean, the very idea is ridiculous. I feel very sorry for the people who lost money in this... although it was obvious, let it be a lesson to everyone not to fall for such blatant lies.

No one lost money in this (except me).
They claim to know people who say they have lost money but none of them have posted and none of them have been in contact with me which I'm sure if they did actually lose money or felt they had they would be in contact.

If he has the BKB he can't have lost money. If he sells or trades it and sells at a low price now then he would lose money but that would be his decision and I have explained how the new system works and that he should wait.
Instead he wants attention and just shouts scam (note Loyce didn't even buy tokens in the ico, he got them from bounty)
But it is not the concern of anyone in this forum who didn't own BKB from the original ICO.

Well come then, explain everything.

The ICO brought in $6.5 million in funds raised:

1,046.60623397 BTC
4,614.61055431 ETH
833.38469263 LTC

Provide a step by step breakdown of where funds went from there.

[BetKing.io]

What Dean did is obviously horrible. Loyce, thank you for the write-up. However, the way I see it, a part of the blame also falls into the hands of the victim. This wasn't a very clever or well thought out scam at all... any person, especially in the crypto world, who guarantees that a token won't fall below a certain point is probably scamming. I mean, the very idea is ridiculous. I feel very sorry for the people who lost money in this... although it was obvious, let it be a lesson to everyone not to fall for such blatant lies.

No one lost money in this (except me).
They claim to know people who say they have lost money but none of them have posted and none of them have been in contact with me which I'm sure if they did actually lose money or felt they had they would be in contact.

If he has the BKB he can't have lost money. If he sells or trades it and sells at a low price now then he would lose money but that would be his decision and I have explained how the new system works and that he should wait.
Instead he wants attention and just shouts scam (note Loyce didn't even buy tokens in the ico, he got them from bounty)
But it is not the concern of anyone in this forum who didn't own BKB from the original ICO.

Well come then, explain everything. How much did the ICO bring in, $6.5 million in Total funds raised:

1,046.60623397 BTC
4,614.61055431 ETH
833.38469263 LTC

Provide a step by step breakdown of where funds went from there.

Where is the need?
Why should I explain to you when you've spent a year on this smear campaign?
Why should I explain to any of the DT members here when they were so quick to label it a scam when they had no evidence and didn't invest in the ICO themselves?
Why should I explain to any trolls who just ignore what I say (all questions have been answered at some point in the past year but you ignored them or twisted my words).

Where are the people who I should explain to? Where are the people who feel that the site is a scam?
If I had scammed $6.5 million there should be hundreds of people posting in here demanding money back.
Where are they?
There isn't anyone.

All of you just proved that the forum is toxic and none of you should be trusted or have your opinions or views taken seriously.

Continue on with your circus. It means nothing. We have players and investors who are happy the way things are going. That's who should be getting the attention.

[JollyGood]

Where is the need?
Why should I explain to you when you've spent a year on this smear campaign?
Why should I explain to any of the DT members here when they were so quick to label it a scam when they had no evidence and didn't invest in the ICO themselves?
Why should I explain to any trolls who just ignore what I say (all questions have been answered at some point in the past year but you ignored them or twisted my words).

Where are the people who I should explain to? Where are the people who feel that the site is a scam?
If I had scammed $6.5 million there should be hundreds of people posting in here demanding money back.
Where are they?
There isn't anyone.

All of you just proved that the forum is toxic and none of you should be trusted or have your opinions or views taken seriously.

Continue on with your circus. It means nothing. We have players and investors who are happy the way things are going. That's who should be getting the attention.

That is an excuse for you to avoid answering. Very immature, throwing another tantrum.

Let us start with LoyceV as being one

The way betking is going it will be dead soon. Your reputation means nothing to investors but those scammed have long memories and will never forget. For those that did not ask for an audit and took your word for where the money was spent, sadly they deserve to suffer losses as a result because they put blind trust in you. I would never trust a scammer like you


So because LoyceV owns 7278 BKB tokens will you answer his questions if he lists them? He is an original BKB token holder after all.

If he sends me some BKB tokens and I become a BKB token holder, will you answer my questions about betking expenditure post-ICO?

Well?

[BoXXoB]

Oh, Ryan. You never fail to amuse. Excellent detective work. I'd consider that pretty irrefutable proof that they're the same person.

Well Dean claims he has people working for him, so it's certainly possible BillyBurns is one. I do find it rather unlikely that he's some unbiased observer though

I don't think he's Dean but if you look at my post history I quoted a post from him where he was fed up with him and implied he's a scammer. It didn't take long for him to go from that to defending him. That could be for whatever reason...

Edit: here

I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG

He went broke trading alt coins, according to him he was tired of alt coiners making more gains than him so he started trading and he got liquidated for everything, this is not a lie I was told to keep hush but I ain't letting this dude get away with another scam, my 30k is long gone. Now the interesting thing  is to speculate is if he used ico funds to gamble on is bitmmex acc or otc trades. Fromm y point of view since the inception of Ico it seems he is doing everything in his power for it to fail.

[marlboroza]

Thanks for negative trust. See how willingly you gave it to me, what is the reason?

What do you think?

Where are the people who I should explain to?

One of them created this thread.

We have players and investors who are happy the way things are going.

@Loyce, as token holder, are you happy the way how things are going?

Why should I explain to any of the DT members here when they were so quick to label it a scam when they had no evidence and didn't invest in the ICO themselves?

Because someone is still holding tokens because you promised price of token will never drop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122856.msg50269606#msg50269606
And some other things which have been repeated dozen times but you have never addressed them so I don't see point in repeating them..

[JollyGood]

Thanks for negative trust. See how willingly you gave it to me, what is the reason?

What do you think?

Where are the people who I should explain to?

One of them created this thread.

We have players and investors who are happy the way things are going.

@Loyce, as token holder, are you happy the way how things are going?

Why should I explain to any of the DT members here when they were so quick to label it a scam when they had no evidence and didn't invest in the ICO themselves?

Because someone is still holding tokens because you promised price of token will never drop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122856.msg50269606#msg50269606
And some other things which have been repeated dozen times but you have never addressed them so I don't see point in repeating them..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122856.msg50267661#msg50267661

Scammer Dean Nolan wrote: "The token price was $0.09286 after the ICO. The token value is calcualted as $0.09286 + ((total bankroll profit of eth, btc, ltc in $ at current exchange price) / 100,000,000) Which is now $0.0966. A profit of $0.00374 per token": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2150057.msg25690525#msg25690525

The value of BKB held by LoyceV should have been 7278 BKB x $0.09286 (+profits) = $675.84 minimum flat rate without any profits to take in to consideration.

If the site made no profit it should STILL guarantee a buy-back of BKB at $0.09286 which totals $675.84 because those were the terms of the 2017 betking ICO by scammer Dean Nolan. He claims he used 600 BTC of the bankroll to buy-back BKB tokens however he excluded LoyceV from that buy-back and also never explained how much of that alleged 600 BTC went directly in to his own pocket via him selling his own BKB tokens.

I suggest the alleged 600 BTC used to buy-back tokens was a ruse, just a convenient way for scammer Dean Nolan to sell his own tokens alongside other token holders because any other outcome does not make sense. Sometimes he says he purchased the buy-back tokens at loss to himself and he owns 70 million BKB tokens and sometimes he says the 600 BTC of the bankroll was used to purchase the buy-back tokens.

Scammer Dean Nolan conflates himself and betking as one-and-the-same as and when he pleases because it adds to the confusion and gives misdirection.

[LoyceV]

We have players and investors who are happy the way things are going.

@Loyce, as token holder, are you happy the way how things are going?

No. And I don't believe that many tokens holders will be happy. They owned a part of BetKing.io, which is going to close. Swapping tokens for a token worth 99% less doesn't make sense, but they are given no choice. Whatever new project is started, old token holders see their share diluted by 90%.

The logical and fair thing to do, would have been to let token holders choose: a 100% buyback, or a token swap.

however he excluded LoyceV from that buy-back

To be fair, I've been included in the earlier quarterly buybacks (before they ended).