What do we expect the Mueller Report to Contain?

[squatz1]

News reports in the past couple weeks have continued to say that the Mueller report is going to be ending in the coming days (though who knows if this is true, as it's been said for sometime now) We do know that this has to go to Attorney General (William Barr), and then it will go through some sort of confidentially screenings, then it will be sent to Congress and then if William Barr wants it to be sent (with maybe more confidentially screenings) -- it will then be shown to the people.

Barr is going to without a doubt release this to the public though, as I don't seem him as a Trump crony and someone who owes anything to the administration. With the amount of pressure from Congress and the people, he's going to release this report and the people are going to see it.

I personally don't think this is going to be anything, as Trump has already stated that he is confident and he wants the people to see it. It might be cautious optimism, but it is still something.

What do you all think about the report, and what's going to come out of it?

https://www.apnews.com/093727be24b649f7adad971e0b48878d

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[TECSHARE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzN3yJXlWrg

[Spendulus]

News reports in the past couple weeks have continued to say that the Mueller report is going to be ending in the coming days (though who knows if this is true, as it's been said for sometime now) We do know that this has to go to Attorney General (William Barr), and then it will go through some sort of confidentially screenings, then it will be sent to Congress and then if William Barr wants it to be sent (with maybe more confidentially screenings) -- it will then be shown to the people.

Barr is going to without a doubt release this to the public though, as I don't seem him as a Trump crony and someone who owes anything to the administration. With the amount of pressure from Congress and the people, he's going to release this report and the people are going to see it.

I personally don't think this is going to be anything, as Trump has already stated that he is confident and he wants the people to see it. It might be cautious optimism, but it is still something.

What do you all think about the report, and what's going to come out of it?

https://www.apnews.com/093727be24b649f7adad971e0b48878d

You know there are likely still a small minority of people that actually believe in the procedural safeguards you have described. These emanate from a concept known as the Rule of Law.

Confidentiality Screenings
Review by Congress
Discretion of William Barr
More Confidentiality Screenings
Part of Fake Report released to public

Here you see pure corruption and the politicalization of justice system, shrouded in the pale vestiges of the Rule of Law.

A related part of this that is a colossal joke is the application of government security protocols to the matter. The average guy on the street has more integrity than the system and is more entitled to the full facts than the corrupted governments systems that would hide the facts from him. They are using security levels to classify their own corruption and keep it hidden.

[Flying Hellfish]

AG Bill Barr has the Mueller report...

[Quickseller]

If I had to guess, it will show zero collusion between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government.

[KingScorpio]

i dont care whats in it, it is very likely to be just a bunch of false flag strategic lies.

[DireWolfM14]

i dont care whats in it, it is very likely to be just a bunch of false flag strategic lies.

Of course you don't care what's in it because it doesn't fit your narrative.  The left can now play the "conspiracy" card to save face.  But Hilary being pardoned by the FBI (or should I say Obama's private Gestapo) for flagrant violations of the law...  No conspiracy there, move along, nothing to see, move along sheeple.

[KingScorpio]

i dont care whats in it, it is very likely to be just a bunch of false flag strategic lies.

Of course you don't care what's in it because it doesn't fit your narrative.  The left can now play the "conspiracy" card to save face.  But Hilary being pardoned by the FBI (or should I say Obama's private Gestapo) for flagrant violations of the law...  No conspiracy there, move along, nothing to see, move along sheeple.

narrative? you want to say you want you believe stuff you want to believe because its in your interest?

you are basically just a bunch of paranoid idiots who think the russians are almighty and secretly rule the entire world and influence everything through their activities.

[Spendulus]

i dont care whats in it, it is very likely to be just a bunch of false flag strategic lies.

Of course you don't care what's in it because it doesn't fit your narrative.  The left can now play the "conspiracy" card to save face.  But Hilary being pardoned by the FBI (or should I say Obama's private Gestapo) for flagrant violations of the law...  No conspiracy there, move along, nothing to see, move along sheeple.

The left rode the Mueller probe into taking the House.

It's all about power.

[TECSHARE]

i dont care whats in it, it is very likely to be just a bunch of false flag strategic lies.

Of course you don't care what's in it because it doesn't fit your narrative.  The left can now play the "conspiracy" card to save face.  But Hilary being pardoned by the FBI (or should I say Obama's private Gestapo) for flagrant violations of the law...  No conspiracy there, move along, nothing to see, move along sheeple.

narrative? you want to say you want you believe stuff you want to believe because its in your interest?

you are basically just a bunch of paranoid idiots who think the russians are almighty and secretly rule the entire world and influence everything through their activities.

At least he can read. You, not so much.

[Spendulus]

i dont care whats in it, it is very likely to be just a bunch of false flag strategic lies.

Of course you don't care what's in it because it doesn't fit your narrative.  The left can now play the "conspiracy" card to save face.  But Hilary being pardoned by the FBI (or should I say Obama's private Gestapo) for flagrant violations of the law...  No conspiracy there, move along, nothing to see, move along sheeple.

narrative? you want to say you want you believe stuff you want to believe because its in your interest?

you are basically just a bunch of paranoid idiots who think the russians are almighty and secretly rule the entire world and influence everything through their activities.

At least he can read. You, not so much.

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Bah.

As this illustrates, the ability to read has never been a necessary part of political decision making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xlQaimsGg

[KingScorpio]

i dont care whats in it, it is very likely to be just a bunch of false flag strategic lies.

Of course you don't care what's in it because it doesn't fit your narrative.  The left can now play the "conspiracy" card to save face.  But Hilary being pardoned by the FBI (or should I say Obama's private Gestapo) for flagrant violations of the law...  No conspiracy there, move along, nothing to see, move along sheeple.

narrative? you want to say you want you believe stuff you want to believe because its in your interest?

you are basically just a bunch of paranoid idiots who think the russians are almighty and secretly rule the entire world and influence everything through their activities.

At least he can read. You, not so much.

uhm jes russia influences us in order to achieve its own economic and political goals like stability etc. us does the same all over the world, as does every other culture and nation, as much as it can

every country does that the question is what is socially acceptable. for russia the destruction of infrastructure (lybia) is a no go. except the enemy is unchangably hostile

btw. all powerful regions and blocks will do that. if you constantly lie like us authorieties and use fals flag claims, you get the problem over time that no one cares anymore what they say.

even americans have trouble believing their government and watch RT

[theymos]

I think that it'll basically portray Trump as the center of a large group of shady people and criminals, but not actually have any hard evidence of crimes by Trump. The whole process was a clear witch hunt, so the report will probably on the whole be more beneficial to Democrats, though Republicans will probably also be able to say "Mueller cleared Trump!"

[TECSHARE]

I think that it'll basically portray Trump as the center of a large group of shady people and criminals, but not actually have any hard evidence of crimes by Trump. The whole process was a clear witch hunt, so the report will probably on the whole be more beneficial to Democrats, though Republicans will probably also be able to say "Mueller cleared Trump!"

Can anyone point me to a billionaire that is not surrounded by shady people? Democrats are already laying the narrative for the next line of conspiracy theories, and this was the goal all along. Trial by media (which they control). Since everyone just repeats what they see on TV over and over again it is just "common knowledge" that Trump is corrupt now, even though there is no evidence of this whatsoever, but but muh Colbert told me so. The media have done a great job training the left to be perfectly content completely denying reality, as long as the fantasy fits with their preferred bias, and that unending denial of reality is going to lead to civil war.

[Spendulus]

I think that it'll basically portray Trump as the center of a large group of shady people and criminals, but not actually have any hard evidence of crimes by Trump. The whole process was a clear witch hunt, so the report will probably on the whole be more beneficial to Democrats, though Republicans will probably also be able to say "Mueller cleared Trump!"

Can anyone point me to a billionaire that is not surrounded by shady people? Democrats are already laying the narrative for the next line of conspiracy theories, and this was the goal all along. Trial by media (which they control). Since everyone just repeats what they see on TV over and over again it is just "common knowledge" that Trump is corrupt now, even though there is no evidence of this whatsoever, but but muh Colbert told me so. The media have done a great job training the left to be perfectly content completely denying reality, as long as the fantasy fits with their preferred bias, and that unending denial of reality is going to lead to civil war.

You want to be surrounded by shady people? You don't need to be a billionaire. Just go to a bitcoin/cryptocoin conference.

The real question is what happens now? The media have been pushing their lies for years. The left has been deluding its people for years. And now there is no elephant in the room.

My preference would be for a fair and impartial Hillary investigation and trial. There are some others, too, who shouldn't just be let go.

Will the sham of the collusion charges be investigated?

[DireWolfM14]

I like what Alan Dershowitz (a life-long Democrat) had to say about it.  Essentially Mueller passed the buck and didn't really say anything of any value.  To paraphrase: no collusion, no exoneration.  What the fuck?  No balls, I say.  In the effort of self preservation Mueller sounds non-committal like a law-school flunky.  Of course he doesn't want to end up "committing suicide" like so many others who've pissed off the Clintons.

[Juggy777]

I like what Alan Dershowitz (a life-long Democrat) had to say about it.  Essentially Mueller passed the buck and didn't really say anything of any value.  To paraphrase: no collusion, no exoneration.  What the fuck?  No balls, I say.  In the effort of self preservation Mueller sounds non-committal like a law-school flunky.  Of course he doesn't want to end up "committing suicide" like so many others who've pissed off the Clintons.

Hey the report has been tabled and as we can see there is no dirt on Trump, now as I see it this is a big boost for Trump and his supporters. I feel this shall boost his chances of winning re-election to the office, as for a very long time his critics were gunning for his head based on Russia meddling but now he’s been cleared. Also I feel in his re-election campaign he can claim to have calmed North Korea, established better relations with Russia which may influence voters again.

[OgNasty]

Vindication.

[MadmanAmazon]

Vindication.

Yes of course. Now he can Make Israel Great Again!

[Spendulus]

I like what Alan Dershowitz (a life-long Democrat) had to say about it.  Essentially Mueller passed the buck and didn't really say anything of any value.  To paraphrase: no collusion, no exoneration....

A prosecutor either recommends charges or he does not.

That's all there is.

There are no charges.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dy1C95p00E

[theymos]

I've only read a little of it so far, though I'm planning on reading the whole thing. At least in the first couple dozen pages, it seems much better for Trump than I expected.

There's a brief mention of Bitcoin being used by the Russians for certain things, though it's pretty neutral.

[Daniel91]

I'm little disappointed, I have to confess.
This report is to big and I don't have time to read in full, but I read expert analysis and it seems that this is general report, without many clear facts or evidence.
So, both Democrats and Republicans can claim now that this report is good for them and that report prove President's connectivity and cooperation with Russians or that report freed him from guilt.
Now, we will see true color of politicians in Congress, more useless fights and discussions.
All will last until the next elections and will be used in the presidential campaign.

[squatz1]

I've only read a little of it so far, though I'm planning on reading the whole thing. At least in the first couple dozen pages, it seems much better for Trump than I expected.

There's a brief mention of Bitcoin being used by the Russians for certain things, though it's pretty neutral.

Any idea on which page this is on? Very curious to see what the Russians are using Bitcoin for, even if it is neutral.

Hats off to you for reading through about 448 (or so pages), I've read maybe 15 pages of it just because I was curious on certain topics. I'd love to see a little write up from you about it Theymos!

I can already see the Democrats and media pundits shifting the goal posts though, and now saying that because Trump OBSTRUCTED (which Mueller made no determination on) he should be impeached. I don't know how you can obstruct a an investigation on a crime that never happened -- but we'll see where this brings us.

I'm little disappointed, I have to confess.
This report is to big and I don't have time to read in full, but I read expert analysis and it seems that this is general report, without many clear facts or evidence.
So, both Democrats and Republicans can claim now that this report is good for them and that report prove President's connectivity and cooperation with Russians or that report freed him from guilt.
Now, we will see true color of politicians in Congress, more useless fights and discussions.
All will last until the next elections and will be used in the presidential campaign.

Eh. Any 'expert' reading it is going to have a bias. I think that the only way to get your own (as close to unbiased as possible) is to read it yourself. Though I doubt you're going to (or most) are going to want to read through 400 pages of legal and investigative mumbo jumbo.

But yeah, this is going to be another political fight that further divides the nation. Though I do think that many moderates are now seeing that Trump isn't a foreign agent, and they may be more keen to support him now. I'd like to see what opinion polls say about him within a month or two and report back.

[Quickseller]

Any idea on which page this is on? Very curious to see what the Russians are using Bitcoin for, even if it is neutral.

I haven’t had the chance to look at the report really at all. However bitcoin was mentioned in the indictments against the Russian nationals filed last year.

They had bought up a bunch of miners to mine bitcoin and used the bitcoin they mined to buy up some VPSs. They might have also used it to buy up ads, but I am not sure about this and don’t specifically remember one way or another.

[theymos]

Any idea on which page this is on? Very curious to see what the Russians are using Bitcoin for, even if it is neutral.

Pages 36-37 and 41. They mined and bought bitcoins and then used them to buy domain names and hosting, it seems.

This is a also a nice quote:

Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated -- including some associated with the Trump Campaign -- deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records. In such cases, the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.

Lesson: always use encryption.

[Spendulus]

....I don't know how you can obstruct a an investigation on a crime that never happened.....

Not providing the evidence that the crime happened when the crime did not happen would of course be obstruction.

In the minds of people seeking the guilt that was pre-determined.

[Quickseller]

Any idea on which page this is on? Very curious to see what the Russians are using Bitcoin for, even if it is neutral.

Pages 36-37 and 41. They mined and bought bitcoins and then used them to buy domain names and hosting, it seems.

This is a also a nice quote:

Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated -- including some associated with the Trump Campaign -- deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records. In such cases, the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.

Lesson: always use encryption.

If you are implying that using encryption will give you a license to lie to the government, I would suggest you reconsider this stance.

Whenever you are using encryption in this regard, you are always communicating with someone else. If the person you are communicating with gives up their communication keys, via corporation or otherwise will potentially allow the government to view your communications (depending on the platform), and using a means to conceal a crime is generally going to lead to a more harsh punishment if/when caught.

[OgNasty]

A link to the report if anyone is in a reading mood.  I didn't see one posted already.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5955240-Full-Mueller-Report.html#document/

[Fortify]

I found it hilarious upon hearing that Mueller decided not to go after Donald Trump Jr. for one of his crimes, because he thought he was too stupid to even realize he was being used in the commission of a crime. Unfortunately they could not tie the president to any crime explicitly, but there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window to protect himself at the expense of democracy.

[Spendulus]

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

[Fortify]

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

[Flying Hellfish]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

[Spendulus]

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

It's not irrelevant, unless the unstated, poorly implied meaning behind "hundreds of years of accepted protocol" can be bent to make your point.

I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies.

This is a very puzzling opinion of yours, given that the subject is politics and political administration.  I'm reminded of Jimmy Carter bringing all his cronies to Washington, but it's not just him. And  conversely, Trump has put many, many people in place that certainly are not his "business cronies."

leaving that aside, maybe you can explain this? What is a "Cronie?"

Leaving that aside and looking at "fully manning the USA government with competent experts," I'm all for it. When do we start firing all the incompetent idiots now in the USA government?

[Quickseller]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

[OgNasty]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

[TECSHARE]

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

This is also something a president trying to resist a coup might do...

[Spendulus]

... there are plenty of examples that Donald Trump is willing to throw hundreds of years of accepted protocol out the window...

You mean, sort of like people who advocate crypto currencies do?

Bitcoin is a currency and they have existed for a long time. Currencies have been sent electronically in various formats for a long time before bitcoin came along, so no I don't agree with your point and it is kind of irrelevant. I'm talking about fully manning the USA government with competent experts, rather than his business cronies. Like giving up all control of your business empire when becoming president, so there is no possibility for a conflict of interest to arise. There are simply too many examples of bad practice and incompetence to list.

This is also something a president trying to resist a coup might do...

True, but I'm still unable to unravel the phrase "hundreds of years of accepted protocol" as it relates to the situation.

The closest I can come is to consider the way Democrats and DC insiders tried to execute a coup. That certainly has not been accepted protocol, at least in the US of A.

[Waradlain]

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

[Quickseller]

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

The conversation was surrounding the impact of having a special counsel to his Presidency. It was being discussed that a special counsel will prevent Trump's presidency from getting things done, which is what happened. Trump also lost the political momentum that he had from being just elected.

[TECSHARE]

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

You are operating based on the assumption that they are legitimate actors after him. They are not. This was designed as a trap from day 1. Trump is very familiar with "lawfare", and he knows that the law can be bent to make it say whatever those in control want it to say.

[Waradlain]

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

You are operating based on the assumption that they are legitimate actors after him. They are not. This was designed as a trap from day 1. Trump is very familiar with "lawfare", and he knows that the law can be bent to make it say whatever those in control want it to say.

Nothing else but PRESIDENT HARASSMENT in other words?

[TECSHARE]

Alright lads so what about "I'm fucked part"?
If I assume there is nothing they can find against me, why would I react this way?

You are operating based on the assumption that they are legitimate actors after him. They are not. This was designed as a trap from day 1. Trump is very familiar with "lawfare", and he knows that the law can be bent to make it say whatever those in control want it to say.

Nothing else but PRESIDENT HARASSMENT in other words?

More like an incomplete attempted coup, and all the rats trying to cover their asses after the fact.

[dimondimon]

he just shit himself and made a lot of money.

[Flying Hellfish]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

[Spendulus]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Actually, not so weird at all. Given how many Republicans hated Trump.

Here's Romney's anti-Trump speed from during the campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iefXdC794I

Here's a more balanced take on these issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl0ze9d72_U

[markstivn98]

News reports in the past couple weeks have continued to say that the Mueller report is going to be ending in the coming days (though who knows if this is true, as it's been said for sometime now) We do know that this has to go to Attorney General (William Barr), and then it will go through some sort of confidentially screenings, then it will be sent to Congress and then if William Barr wants it to be sent (with maybe more confidentially screenings) -- it will then be shown to the people.

Barr is going to without a doubt release this to the public though, as I don't seem him as a Trump crony and someone who owes anything to the administration. With the amount of pressure from Congress and the people, he's going to release this report and the people are going to see it.

I personally don't think this is going to be anything, as Trump has already stated that he is confident and he wants the people to see it. It might be cautious optimism, but it is still something.

What do you all think about the report, and what's going to come out of it?

https://www.apnews.com/093727be24b649f7adad971e0b48878d

I think a few people will believe it, are these investigations fair?
The judiciary has become dominated by politics, and according to the interests of the authority comes out the final decision,
The investigation will be in favor of the Democrats ..

[KingScorpio]

who the hell cares?

[TECSHARE]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Weird, almost like Trump is actually anti-establishment...

[Astargath]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Did the report confirm he colluded with the russians or not? It didn't, therefore you must admit he is innocent, otherwise you are just a biased person and hate trump deeply for some reason. I don't know if it's all the NPC brainwash or what but USA isn't doing too bad after 2.5 years of Trump's presidency, no third world war yet.

[Spendulus]

....

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Did the report confirm he colluded with the russians or not? It didn't, therefore you must admit he is innocent, otherwise you are just a biased person and hate trump deeply for some reason. I don't know if it's all the NPC brainwash or what but USA isn't doing too bad after 2.5 years of Trump's presidency, no third world war yet.

Technically, a lack of a recommendation to prosecute is not a confirmation of no collusion or its opposite.

There's no "need to admit he is innocent," except that we should presume innocence. But the Trump haters don't, they presume guilt.

More importantly, what the evidence indicates is multiple attempts to entrap Trump staff and associates into the setup that would create the appearance of collusion, for the purposes of bringing down a sitting duly elected US president.

There are numerous indictments coming for these matters.

[Astargath]

....

Weird having a GOP senator that thinks your POTUS is a colluding piece of shit!

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia,"
Mitt Romney
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/romney-mueller-president-trump-reaction/index.html

Did the report confirm he colluded with the russians or not? It didn't, therefore you must admit he is innocent, otherwise you are just a biased person and hate trump deeply for some reason. I don't know if it's all the NPC brainwash or what but USA isn't doing too bad after 2.5 years of Trump's presidency, no third world war yet.

Technically, a lack of a recommendation to prosecute is not a confirmation of no collusion or its opposite.

There's no "need to admit he is innocent," except that we should presume innocence. But the Trump haters don't, they presume guilt.

More importantly, what the evidence indicates is multiple attempts to entrap Trump staff and associates into the setup that would create the appearance of collusion, for the purposes of bringing down a sitting duly elected US president.

There are numerous indictments coming for these matters.

Well, yeah, we should presume innocence but now even more than before, after 2.5 years of no direct evidence of anything, his innocence ''level'' should be higher. I don't know how they can get away with literally lying about the president of the United States, something unheard of, to be honest, I remember 4-5 years ago, no one mocked Obama like they do with Trump, granted you should have the right to do it but still, one thing is mocking, the other is lying and making up stuff about your own president.

[Spendulus]

...
Well, yeah, we should presume innocence but now even more than before, after 2.5 years of no direct evidence of anything, his innocence ''level'' should be higher. I don't know how they can get away with literally lying about the president of the United States, something unheard of, to be honest, I remember 4-5 years ago, no one mocked Obama like they do with Trump, granted you should have the right to do it but still, one thing is mocking, the other is lying and making up stuff about your own president.

Right, but it was under Obama that the eerie feeling of "being scared to speak out" really started.

And there's a lot there to be uncovered, and a lot of people who do not want it uncovered...

https://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

And the uncovering will continue...

[squatz1]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

This made me cackle.

I doubt even Mueller read this entire report, that shit is INSANE. Still waiting for Theymos to awake from his (probably boring) time of reading this report and coming back with his findings.

News reports in the past couple weeks have continued to say that the Mueller report is going to be ending in the coming days (though who knows if this is true, as it's been said for sometime now) We do know that this has to go to Attorney General (William Barr), and then it will go through some sort of confidentially screenings, then it will be sent to Congress and then if William Barr wants it to be sent (with maybe more confidentially screenings) -- it will then be shown to the people.

Barr is going to without a doubt release this to the public though, as I don't seem him as a Trump crony and someone who owes anything to the administration. With the amount of pressure from Congress and the people, he's going to release this report and the people are going to see it.

I personally don't think this is going to be anything, as Trump has already stated that he is confident and he wants the people to see it. It might be cautious optimism, but it is still something.

What do you all think about the report, and what's going to come out of it?

https://www.apnews.com/093727be24b649f7adad971e0b48878d

I think a few people will believe it, are these investigations fair?
The judiciary has become dominated by politics, and according to the interests of the authority comes out the final decision,
The investigation will be in favor of the Democrats ..

Just a little side note I'd like to write below:
Democrats in 2018: "You must accept the conclusions of the Mueller Report"

Democrats in 2019: "We want to impeach Trump, and we're going to disregard the Mueller report"
Also Democrats "NoN-ObStRuCtIoN iS ImPeAcHaBlE"

I fail to see the thinking here.

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Flying Hellfish is a COMMIE.

[Astargath]

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Weird having a troll for a moderator.  Sort of fun depending on how you look at it I guess.  As his punishment I suggest he read every page of the report.

This made me cackle.

I doubt even Mueller read this entire report, that shit is INSANE. Still waiting for Theymos to awake from his (probably boring) time of reading this report and coming back with his findings.

News reports in the past couple weeks have continued to say that the Mueller report is going to be ending in the coming days (though who knows if this is true, as it's been said for sometime now) We do know that this has to go to Attorney General (William Barr), and then it will go through some sort of confidentially screenings, then it will be sent to Congress and then if William Barr wants it to be sent (with maybe more confidentially screenings) -- it will then be shown to the people.

Barr is going to without a doubt release this to the public though, as I don't seem him as a Trump crony and someone who owes anything to the administration. With the amount of pressure from Congress and the people, he's going to release this report and the people are going to see it.

I personally don't think this is going to be anything, as Trump has already stated that he is confident and he wants the people to see it. It might be cautious optimism, but it is still something.

What do you all think about the report, and what's going to come out of it?

https://www.apnews.com/093727be24b649f7adad971e0b48878d

I think a few people will believe it, are these investigations fair?
The judiciary has become dominated by politics, and according to the interests of the authority comes out the final decision,
The investigation will be in favor of the Democrats ..

Just a little side note I'd like to write below:
Democrats in 2018: "You must accept the conclusions of the Mueller Report"

Democrats in 2019: "We want to impeach Trump, and we're going to disregard the Mueller report"
Also Democrats "NoN-ObStRuCtIoN iS ImPeAcHaBlE"

I fail to see the thinking here.

The United States of Russia, Congrats USR you're criminally justice obstructing POTUS and his campaign were actively working with Russians to affect the your elections in Trump's favour!

The report was pretty clear in saying that Trump and his campaign were NOT working with Russians...

Flying Hellfish is a COMMIE.

Certainly, anyhow the most important part about the report is whether trump colluded with the russians or not and it's pretty clear in the report that he did not, end of the story, everything else is meaningless, the media has been saying trump is guilty since he was elected, they should be held accountable.

[TECSHARE]

Certainly, anyhow the most important part about the report is whether trump colluded with the russians or not and it's pretty clear in the report that he did not, end of the story, everything else is meaningless, the media has been saying trump is guilty since he was elected, they should be held accountable.

They will be. That is exactly why they are so desperate to cover this all up.

[Flying Hellfish]

For anyone who actually is interested in the severity of what the Mueller report contains, do one tiny little exercise and replace Trump with Clinton or Obama...  If a Democrat had done 1/10th of the things in the report imagine how the GOP would react.

Fucking hypocritical cunts in this thread LOL.

[TECSHARE]

For anyone who actually is interested in the severity of what the Mueller report contains, do one tiny little exercise and replace Trump with Clinton or Obama...  If a Democrat had done 1/10th of the things in the report imagine how the GOP would react.

Fucking hypocritical cunts in this thread LOL.

They have done 10 times this and more. You will see how the rest of the nation responds to this coup attempt. I know this because I have been monitoring their illicit activities since about as long as I was able to comprehend politics as a child. They are part of a long standing criminal cartel responsible for unspeakable crimes, and they are about to see justice. You have fun playing with your Muller shaped Ouija board interpreting the narrative as best serves your delusions. Down deep you know you are wrong but your ego will not let you admit how badly you have been duped. You choose to remain in that painful state of cognitive dissonance as long as you want, you are only hurting yourself at this point. Real justice will soon be served and you are going to have to learn to cope with reality sooner or later.

[Spendulus]

....  If a Democrat had done 1/10th of the things in the report imagine how the GOP would react.

Fucking hypocritical cunts in this thread LOL.

Like WHAT 1/10 of what things? What exact things would be in that 1/10 that you imagine the GOP would go nuts over?

Go ahead, lay them out.

[KingScorpio]

....  If a Democrat had done 1/10th of the things in the report imagine how the GOP would react.

Fucking hypocritical cunts in this thread LOL.

Like WHAT 1/10 of what things? What exact things would be in that 1/10 that you imagine the GOP would go nuts over?

Go ahead, lay them out.

no one in the world cares about the trashed up mueller report, the americans interfered into foreign countries affairs since 200 years now other countries interfer with them, thats called a globalised world. on the city planet coruscant thats daily life.

if americans arent happy with that, they then at least should straight forward publicly admit that their liberal humanist empire ist just a zentral bank scam propaganda.

so the world can leave the worthless usdollar that only serves the interest of in the usa living billionaires.

and with a dropped usd we then will also drop the bitcoin spam.

alternatively they can run their future presidential elections similar like mayor elections in cities.

regards

[theymos]

Still waiting for Theymos to awake from his (probably boring) time of reading this report and coming back with his findings.

Wait no more, as I have in fact now read the whole thing. It was actually very interesting, moreso than I'd expected. While it's very far from an exoneration, it's about as good as Trump could've hoped for, since it doesn't go into his personal business very much, he is personally rarely involved in anything too incriminating in the report, the number and severity of negative things are relatively small considering the massive scope of the investigation, and overall Trump comes across as more bumbling than criminal.

If you're interested in the report, I recommend reading the executive summaries at the start of each volume. Here are several scattered thoughts/notes of mine:

Volume I - "NO COLLUSION"

The Russians come off as kind of disorganized, like a few rich Russian guys who wanted to mess with American elections and casually threw a few million dollars at it. They achieved quite a bit, but no more than a few dedicated and skilled people could do. Their goal seems to have been primarily to see Hillary defeated, and so they focused on attacking her and helping everyone else, especially Trump and Sanders. They interacted with both left-wing and right-wing groups.

Today's social media is basically the perfect tool to manipulate people, and by using social media the Russians were able to achieve impressive results. It's quite possible that the election would've gone differently without them.

I wonder how the US got such detailed info on the Russian DNC/DCCC hacking. It makes me think that they might be logging most/all Internet traffic globally (which has long been suspected but unproven).

The hacking operations against election systems strike me as loud and primitive, and were probably intended mostly to sow distrust in the election system.

Trump's campaign was disorganized and naïve. They were used to these things being far away and not bothering them, so nobody was really thinking about the possibly criminal nature of the Russian stuff. They weren't prepared to be in the crosshairs of so many hostile actors both foreign and domestic, so they weren't nearly paranoid enough. I'm pretty sure that if the Russians had tried, they could've gotten the Trump campaign to do some super illegal things by abusing this careless attitude, but they either didn't think to do this or they didn't think that doing this would be in their interests. I'm not personally bothered much by the Trump campaign's outlook, since in my view law/democracy are things that you live with rather than values you fight for, and furthermore the campaign's activity in this matter was basically passive. They were being tempted by "evil", and would've fallen for it if the temptation had not been removed, but they were not the ultimate source of the "evil". If you do care about lawfulness or democracy as fundamental values, then I could understand condemning the Trump campaign's actions and outlook here, since they pretty clearly had a willingness to play very dirty in order to win and to perform acts that would break laws (even if in some cases they arguably didn't know that they would be breaking laws). (Note: IMO Clinton is probably far dirtier, but she's more experienced in hiding it.)

Bannon comes across as dirty, but too smart to leave a paper trail. Manafort comes across as very effective campaign-wise, and possibly a key in Trump's ultimate success, but he was completely ineffective at hiding his activities. It sounds like Trump himself basically has everyone else do all of his work for him, which is a decent way to stay out of trouble, at least. A whole lot of other people in both Trump's campaign and Russia come across as pretty stupid.

It's clear that there was no true conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign, and in fact the Russians were having a lot of trouble after Trump won in figuring out how to achieve effective communication with the incoming presidency.

it would be much better for GOP to win ... Dems+Media+liberals would then form a block to reign in their worst qualities ... With Hillary in charge, GOP will be pushing for her worst qualities, dems+media+neoliberals will be mute... She's a bright, well connected, sadistic sociopath.
[...]
GOP will generate a lot of opposition, including through dumb moves. Hillary will do the same thing, but co-opt the liberal opposition and the GOP opposition. Hence hillary has greater freedom to start wars than the GOP and has the will to do so.

Good analysis by Assange! I was thinking along the same lines at the time, and it turned out to be somewhat correct, though I've been disappointed at how much Trump has been able to continue/expand the wars. Ironically, Trump has probably been motivated to be extra hawkish due to the Russia hubub, which Assange contributed to. (Though hindsight is 20/20, and IMO Assange had good motives, at least.)

The report contradicts the idea that Wikileaks was some kind of puppet of the Russian government, though they were clearly not at all neutral.

Why is everyone sending sensitive communications via Twitter DM? Twitter's obviously going to turn that over to the government, maybe even without a warrant. It's even worse than email.

Reference to possible dirt on the Clintons on pages 61 and 109. I'm suspicious that a lot of the redactions elsewhere may also be protecting establishment figures.

Cohen recalled conversations with Trump in which the candidate suggested that his campaign would be a significant "infomercial" for Trump-branded properties

LOL

Volume II - "WITCH HUNT"

Volume II is just hilarious. It basically makes the Trump administration look like a sitcom. I could seriously imagine it as a great dramatized comedy manga series or something (it'd be difficult to do a live-action show without being cringy).

when Sessions told the President that a Special Counsel had been appointed, the President slumped back in his chair and said, "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked. [...] How could you let this happen, Jeff? [...] Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won't be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me.

Trump is portrayed as someone who has no idea what he's doing, who just randomly vents his thoughts to whoever he happens to come across. I actually laughed out loud several times reading volume II.

On March 26, 2017 [...] the President called NSA Directory Admiral Michael Rogers. The President expressed frustration with the Russia investigation, saying that it made relations with the Russians difficult. [...] The President also said that the news stories linking him with Russia were not true and asked Rogers if he could do anything to refute the stories. Deputy Directory of the NSA Richard Ledgett, who was present for the call, said it was the most unusual thing he had experienced in 40 years of government service.

There are many examples like the above; it's like Trump went through the presidential phonebook and said to everyone, "Hey, how's it going, you're fabulous. By the way, do you have any idea how I can get rid of this Russian nonsense?" Trump was so ineffective at handling his people and the Russia thing that he comes across as totally harmless, not as any real schemer.

More funny quotes:

During the June 19 meeting, Lewandowski recalled that, after some small talk, the President brought up Sessions and criticized his recusal from the Russia investigation. The President told Lewandowski that Sessions was weak and that if the President had known about the likelihood of recusal in advance, he would not have appointed Sessions. The President then asked Lewandowski to deliver a message to Sessions and said "write this down." This was the first time the President had asked Lewandowski to take dictation, and Lewandowski wrote as fast as possible to make sure he captured the content correctly. The President directed that Sessions should give a speech publicly announcing:

I know that I recused myself from certain things having to do with specific areas. But our POTUS...is being treated very unfairly. He shouldn't have a Special Prosecutor/Counsel b/c/ he hasn't done anything wrong. I was on the campaign w/ him for nine months, there were no Russians involved with him. I know it for a fact b/c I was there. He didn't do anything wrong except he ran the greatest campaign in American history.

The President also asked McGahn in the meeting why he had told Special Counsel's Office investigators that the President had told him to have the Special Counsel removed. McGahn responded that he had to and that his conversations with the President were not protected by attorney-client privilege. The President then asked, "What about these notes? Why do you take notes? Lawyers don't take notes. I never had a lawyer who took notes." McGahn responded that he keeps notes because he is a "real lawyer" and explained that notes create a record and are not a bad thing.

An important point is that Mueller went into this with the intention to refuse to say that the President was guilty of anything, though he would've been willing to exonerate him if this was absolutely clear. Some media outlets seem to present his non-conclusion as Mueller thinking that it was just too close to call, which isn't the case. After reading all of the report, I get a strong impression that Mueller thinks that Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice, but that he feels compelled not to explicitly say so. Instead, he lays out a very compelling case for obstruction of justice over 182 pages, and implies that either congress should impeach Trump or Trump should be prosecuted after he leaves office:

while the OLC opinion concludes that a sitting President may not be prosecuted, it recognizes that a criminal investigation during the President's term is permissible.³ The OLC opinion also recognizes that a President does not have immunity after he leaves office⁴.

3: "A grand jury could continue to gather evidence throughout the period of immunity"
4: "Recognizing an immunity from prosecution for a sitting President would not preclude such prosecution once the President's term is over or he is otherwise removed from office by resignation or impeachment"

Note that there are a bunch of grand jury redactions in volume II, which makes me think that they could be preparing to jump on Trump after he leaves office.

I find the arguments for obstruction of justice pretty convincing on an intellectual level, especially the witness-tampering-type stuff in Flynn's and Cohen's cases. Mueller makes a lot of good arguments for Comey's firing also being obstruction, but that I find more difficult to accept. But in reality this is 100% political, so the legal arguments don't matter all that much, and I also don't care whether Trump broke any laws. My opinion of Trump was a bit negatively impacted, but mostly due to his general disloyalty to his subordinates. On the whole, my opinion of Trump remains the same: 1) he's a bit crazy and rather ineffective, which is from my libertarian perspective good; 2) his policies are mostly objectively terrible; 3) but if you grade him on a curve with other recent presidents, he's above average.

[Quickseller]

I wish I had the time to read the whole report in that amount of time.

The Mueller report is obviously not a neutral document and was written by a group of partisans. Further, the directive was to investigate the relationship between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.

I am pretty sure they wrote it in a way to make Trump look bad, even if what he (or his campaign/administration) was doing isn’t illegal. I also suspect that episodes were put in the report doesn’t necessarily reflect what actually happens on a day to day basis.

I don’t think there is any question that the Russian government expanded resources to help the Trump campaign. I am also interested to see what else they did in regards to meddling in the election, IIRC they used Twitter trolls to help Sanders during the primaries. I am curious if they did anything to help Clinton in 2016 (or 2008) that might have come out if she had won. I am curious what other countries did in 2016. Probably most importantly, I am curious to know what other countries did in both 2016 and previous elections.

The FISA warrants (that were made public) said that Russia has been trying to meddle in US elections for Decades, or more accurately, Generations.

What were most of the reasons for redactions in Volume 2? Was it for ‘ongoing investigation’? Or for other reasons (investigation techniques, national security, or personal privacy)?

[TECSHARE]

I wish I had the time to read the whole report in that amount of time.

The Mueller report is obviously not a neutral document and was written by a group of partisans. Further, the directive was to investigate the relationship between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.

I am pretty sure they wrote it in a way to make Trump look bad, even if what he (or his campaign/administration) was doing isn’t illegal. I also suspect that episodes were put in the report doesn’t necessarily reflect what actually happens on a day to day basis.

I don’t think there is any question that the Russian government expanded resources to help the Trump campaign. I am also interested to see what else they did in regards to meddling in the election, IIRC they used Twitter trolls to help Sanders during the primaries. I am curious if they did anything to help Clinton in 2016 (or 2008) that might have come out if she had won. I am curious what other countries did in 2016. Probably most importantly, I am curious to know what other countries did in both 2016 and previous elections.

The FISA warrants (that were made public) said that Russia has been trying to meddle in US elections for Decades, or more accurately, Generations.

What were most of the reasons for redactions in Volume 2? Was it for ‘ongoing investigation’? Or for other reasons (investigation techniques, national security, or personal privacy)?

It is also a valid point to mention that Muller has been in office and over seen some VERY shady shit during his watch. He among others behind this organized attack was a desperate attempt to cover their own asses. Muller is right in the middle of it.

[theymos]

The Mueller report is obviously not a neutral document and was written by a group of partisans.

Probably, but the flaws and biases mostly don't make themselves apparent to me at this time. I perceived a strong pro-DoJ bias, and of course the whole thing comes from a statist and establishment perspective, but nothing caught my eye as pushing a false narrative or anything like that.

One thing I noticed on this front is that the report states witness testimony as fact when the author finds it convenient, and in particular treats Cohen as 100% reliable. But I couldn't detect any actual false statements due to this.

I am also interested to see what else they did in regards to meddling in the election

They had huge followings on Twitter and Facebook, and they organized rallies in the US by sort of social-engineering people into being rally leaders. Also, the report convincingly argues that the hacking/leaking operations were specifically carried out with the intent of influencing the election, though this was not necessarily coordinated with the main social media campaign, which was done by a separate Russian group.

IIRC they used Twitter trolls to help Sanders during the primaries. I am curious if they did anything to help Clinton in 2016 (or 2008) that might have come out if she had won.

Yes, they weren't pro-Republican or pro-Democrat:

More commonly, the IRA created accounts in the names of fictious US organizations and grassroots groups and used these accounts to pose as anti-immigration groups, Tea Party activists, Black LIves Matter protester, and other US social and political activists.

[Russians:] "Main idea: Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary [Clinton] and the rest (except Sanders and Trump - we support them)."

What were most of the reasons for redactions in Volume 2? Was it for ‘ongoing investigation’? Or for other reasons (investigation techniques, national security, or personal privacy)?

Mostly "grand jury", with some "harm to ongoing investigation".

[Quickseller]

The Mueller report is obviously not a neutral document and was written by a group of partisans.

Probably, but the flaws and biases mostly don't make themselves apparent to me at this time. I perceived a strong pro-DoJ bias, and of course the whole thing comes from a statist and establishment perspective, but nothing caught my eye as pushing a false narrative or anything like that.

They can pick and choose what facts and what testimony to include in the report.

I think it would be difficult to push a false narrative, but they could try to shine a negative light onto Trump. For example, there was a WSJ article (paywall, sorry) that laid out some examples of Trumps behavior, according to the Mueller report, show him to be a not good business executive:

Mr. Trump campaigned on his record as a businessman who would bring private-sector efficiency to the federal government. But the Mueller report shows an executive who often lacks a willingness to take on tough conversations and personnel moves, as well as a forthrightness in dealing with employees and the public, and follow-through to ensure that his decisions are executed.
[...]
Officials and associates are shown to have disobeyed and resisted Mr. Trump’s orders, or simply ignored them, hoping he would forget. Hanging over many of the episodes is an imprecise relationship with the truth, in which aides were asked to, and at times did, make statements marked by hyperbole or without basis in fact
[...]
[M]ost aides rarely tell Mr. Trump no, the report found, instead opting not to follow through on his orders.
[...]
Mr. Trump also frequently sought to blame others for his own decisions. When Mr. Trump planned to fire then-FBI director James Comey in May 2017, some of his advisers urged Mr. Trump to permit Mr. Comey to resign instead, but “the President was adamant that he be fired.”

After Mr. Comey’s firing became public, the White House asked the Justice Department to put out a statement saying it had been Mr. Rosenstein’s idea, the report said. Mr. Rosenstein said he wouldn’t participate in putting out a “false story,” the report said.
[etc]

One thing I noticed on this front is that the report states witness testimony as fact when the author finds it convenient, and in particular treats Cohen as 100% reliable. But I couldn't detect any actual false statements due to this.

In a court proceeding, assuming the witness is allowed to testify, it is assumed the witness is telling the truth, unless two witnesses contradict eachother.

I am also interested to see what else they did in regards to meddling in the election

They had huge followings on Twitter and Facebook, and they organized rallies in the US by sort of social-engineering people into being rally leaders. Also, the report convincingly argues that the hacking/leaking operations were specifically carried out with the intent of influencing the election, though this was not necessarily coordinated with the main social media campaign, which was done by a separate Russian group.

IIRC, CNN found an old women who can setup one of the rallies, accusing her, on camera of working with Russians.

What they did to help Trump is pretty well documented, I am more interested to see what Russia did to help other candidates. I have speculated that Russia intentionally exposed themselves as helping Trump after he won, and could have done the same to Sanders or Clinton (or another Republican) if either of them had won.

It is also a valid point to mention that Muller has been in office and over seen some VERY shady shit during his watch. He among others behind this organized attack was a desperate attempt to cover their own asses. Muller is right in the middle of it.

Some of the conflicts that Mueller has have been reported in the media. Don McGahn, former White House counsel didn't agree

But Mr. McGahn thought those conflicts were “silly” and “not real,”

[Spendulus]

....Trump was so ineffective at handling his people and the Russia thing that he comes across as totally harmless, not as any real schemer.....

....On the whole, my opinion of Trump remains the same: 1) he's a bit crazy and rather ineffective, which is from my libertarian perspective good; 2) his policies are mostly objectively terrible; 3) but if you grade him on a curve with other recent presidents, he's above average.

Covington
Kavanaugh
Mueller

I think we've pretty much got a sense of the kind of people that oppose Trump.
....
The best argument in favor of Trump’s presidency is what Trump’s presidency has taught us about the character of the people who oppose him, and who would be wielding power if he weren’t.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/319648/

[squatz1]

The madman Theymos actually wasn't kidding when he said he was going to read through this!

The summary is without a doubt a very amazing thing to have here, I'd like if you even stickied it so the people in this board would be able to see this without having to sift through the board. You do a very good job at noting where you biases may stand (as you are a libertarian)

[Astargath]

....Trump was so ineffective at handling his people and the Russia thing that he comes across as totally harmless, not as any real schemer.....

....On the whole, my opinion of Trump remains the same: 1) he's a bit crazy and rather ineffective, which is from my libertarian perspective good; 2) his policies are mostly objectively terrible; 3) but if you grade him on a curve with other recent presidents, he's above average.

Covington
Kavanaugh
Mueller

I think we've pretty much got a sense of the kind of people that oppose Trump.
....
The best argument in favor of Trump’s presidency is what Trump’s presidency has taught us about the character of the people who oppose him, and who would be wielding power if he weren’t.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/319648/

True, it's almost like they are talking about themselves when they insult or mock Trump. They all end up being degenerates or criminals themselves and Trump always ends up being innocent, pretty funny.

[Spendulus]

....Trump was so ineffective at handling his people and the Russia thing that he comes across as totally harmless, not as any real schemer.....

....On the whole, my opinion of Trump remains the same: 1) he's a bit crazy and rather ineffective, which is from my libertarian perspective good; 2) his policies are mostly objectively terrible; 3) but if you grade him on a curve with other recent presidents, he's above average.

Covington
Kavanaugh
Mueller

I think we've pretty much got a sense of the kind of people that oppose Trump.
....
The best argument in favor of Trump’s presidency is what Trump’s presidency has taught us about the character of the people who oppose him, and who would be wielding power if he weren’t.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/319648/

True, it's almost like they are talking about themselves when they insult or mock Trump. They all end up being degenerates or criminals themselves and Trump always ends up being innocent, pretty funny.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russiagate-fiasco-taibbi-news-media-826246/amp/

From the Rolling Stone, of all places...

You know what was fake news? Most of the Russiagate story. There was no Trump-Russia conspiracy, that thing we just spent three years chasing. The Mueller Report is crystal clear on this.

He didn’t just “fail to establish” evidence of crime. His report is full of incredibly damning passages, like one about Russian officialdom’s efforts to reach the Trump campaign after the election: “They appeared not to have preexisting contacts and struggled to connect with senior officials around the President-Elect.”
Not only was there no “collusion,” the two camps didn’t even have each others’ phone numbers!

[Astargath]

....Trump was so ineffective at handling his people and the Russia thing that he comes across as totally harmless, not as any real schemer.....

....On the whole, my opinion of Trump remains the same: 1) he's a bit crazy and rather ineffective, which is from my libertarian perspective good; 2) his policies are mostly objectively terrible; 3) but if you grade him on a curve with other recent presidents, he's above average.

Covington
Kavanaugh
Mueller

I think we've pretty much got a sense of the kind of people that oppose Trump.
....
The best argument in favor of Trump’s presidency is what Trump’s presidency has taught us about the character of the people who oppose him, and who would be wielding power if he weren’t.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/319648/

True, it's almost like they are talking about themselves when they insult or mock Trump. They all end up being degenerates or criminals themselves and Trump always ends up being innocent, pretty funny.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russiagate-fiasco-taibbi-news-media-826246/amp/

From the Rolling Stone, of all places...

You know what was fake news? Most of the Russiagate story. There was no Trump-Russia conspiracy, that thing we just spent three years chasing. The Mueller Report is crystal clear on this.

He didn’t just “fail to establish” evidence of crime. His report is full of incredibly damning passages, like one about Russian officialdom’s efforts to reach the Trump campaign after the election: “They appeared not to have preexisting contacts and struggled to connect with senior officials around the President-Elect.”
Not only was there no “collusion,” the two camps didn’t even have each others’ phone numbers!

It's also pretty clear that pretty much all countries ''intervene'' some way in other country's elections and other affairs, after all is no secret that there are still spies working for each country trying to gather information about other countries everyday, I don't know why liberals act like USA doesn't do it.

[Spendulus]

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It's also pretty clear that pretty much all countries ''intervene'' some way in other country's elections and other affairs, after all is no secret that there are still spies working for each country trying to gather information about other countries everyday, I don't know why liberals act like USA doesn't do it.

Today the reason is because foreign influences have made deep inroads into the Democratic Party with the intention of influencing the future direction of this country.

Of course they don't want that out in the open.