VANTA a SCAM? Wasted 6 weeks working for Vanta without payment

[semes]

I spent 6 weeks working on a project called VANTA and finally end up without a payment. I started working on VANTA since from the 1st week to the final and yet I got no payment. After we started working for VANTA 3 weeks in, the Bounty manager comes out with a new rule saying, everyone must trade 2308 VNT on Allbit for 10 consecutive days, if not, no payment.

If that rule was there from the beginning many would not join the campaign. The bounty program was originally 4 weeks, the 2 weeks was added later when they implemented the new rule for 10 days trading on Allbit.

It's funny to see how this kind of projects conspire with the bounty managers and work away with our tokens every day. I was previously scammed in projects such as HDAC, Envion, REGA, GIZER, Confido, EOSex, and now VANTA. I started thinking now is time say enough for that.  

Note: I even traded VNT on Allbit for about 3-4 days and I stopped because I was busy working on other projects as well. By the way, I'm a proud bounty hunter, not a trader and ain't trading for nobody. Trading is different from bounty hunting. For VANTA, if you think stealing our tokens (for not trading 10 days) is good, add them to your supply and try to surpass bitcoin on market cap.


So guys, what is your take on VANTA, A scam or not?
For me, any project that is not legit enough to pay the bounty hunters is not worth investing.

We shouldn't tag anyone as easy SCAM, but it's a shame not to pay Bounty! This is completely against the nature of work. And trusting the team that did this, I would never do that coin trade.

The bounty doesn't pay today, so he can leave the project and run away because he makes a profit tomorrow. I added Vanta to the my blacklist.

[sergejs.veliky]

Vanta network is one of the few projects out there that has been able too trade above its ico price .. without ethereum and btc market.. so on my opinion instead of crying here on bitcointalk.. pick up a few for yourself while it's still around 1.2krw..

Go lick your master's ass (VANTA) No hunter will buy these paltry tokens.

[thaliaand]

I didn't join this campaign nor supporting this project. But this topic is quite hot recently regarding to bounty reward. Hearing the situation regarding to bounty hunters which required hunters to trade 10 days consecutively as a mandatory option is a little unfair. Though this condition may be the right of the team, but it is not a good impression which showing the team is likely unwilling to pay its supporter.
This project may not be a scam, but it scammed bounty hunters by being unfair. As the bounty campaign manager, I think we can not completely blame him because of the rules were changed according to the orders of the team. But at least he should stand in front to defend his bounty hunters by finding a better and fair solution for all parties.
May be there is someone who can be a mediator in finding a solution to this problem.

[BADBITCH]

Am not sure how it feels, but I also took part in the vanta bounty
And when the two weeks extension was prioritized and trading made compulsory for 10 days

I partaked in it and even traded for a long 14days getting extra airdrop rewards in the process

Am sorry you didn’t trade, but it’s not vanta fault

The trading airdrop was live on their website and their social media pages
So I don’t think it was shady either

Am sorry, but talk to the team and bounty team amicable

[ivan1975]

I am not sure scam VANTA token or not.
I traded on Allbit Exchange 10 days with 10 trades per day and get all my tokens.
Strange that official announcement thread is locked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095100.0

[bonyaserg]

Personally, I also suffered from this project Vanta. I was also not paid for the good work for which I honestly fulfilled all the conditions of the project. I am a bounty hunter and not a trader who must trade. Project Vanta is a project that wants to make a profit with other hands. Yes, this is a solid scam not to pay a reward.

[Gabteb]

I have traded 10 dyas on Allbit and then got all my tokens from team maybe 10 days trading as a mandatory wasn't right but seems they have pay all users who have done that trades ,so dont htink we can talk about it as a scam,i was paid so dont have any problems with Vanta team ,but i understand some users hade done work and go and didn't know about trade maybe.

[eternalgloom]

I think Vanta is not a scam. I noticed myself that Vanta changed the requirements and unfortunately they have the right to do so. That a bounty changes the requirements is nothing new and it's the same as when they demand KYC afterwards. I myself think it's unfair, but if something like this happened, I wouldn't call it scam. Only if Vanta doesn't pay out any token at all, it's a scam, but since they have even provided the token for trading, it is somehow not a scam. Nevertheless I understand your situation and would also be annoyed about it, but unfortunately that does not help you either. 

Oh bullshit, I wouldn't trust a company that did shady stuff like this, you might as well call it a scam.
They completely deserve to be named and shamed for this and I'm not saying that because I have participated.

I stay away from all these ICO bounty programs in general, unless they pay me upfront in other cryptocurrency like ETH or Bitcoin.

[pawanjain]

I spent 6 weeks working on a project called VANTA and finally end up without a payment. I started working on VANTA since from the 1st week to the final and yet I got no payment. After we started working for VANTA 3 weeks in, the Bounty manager comes out with a new rule saying, everyone must trade 2308 VNT on Allbit for 10 consecutive days, if not, no payment.

If that rule was there from the beginning many would not join the campaign. The bounty program was originally 4 weeks, the 2 weeks was added later when they implemented the new rule for 10 days trading on Allbit.

It's funny to see how this kind of projects conspire with the bounty managers and work away with our tokens every day.

If that's the case then you must have took part in only those campaigns where the campaign managers were trust worthy. There are many campaign managers I know on this forum who are well trusted and I am sure that they would have not made this situation occur to you or any other participants.

I was previously scammed in projects such as HDAC, Envion, REGA, GIZER, Confido, EOSex, and now VANTA. I started thinking now is time say enough for that.  

Damn, so many scams. You must have been an experienced scam victim now. No Offense. I think you should do your homework of making a thorough research well before participating in the bounty campaign.

Note: I even traded VNT on Allbit for about 3-4 days and I stopped because I was busy working on other projects as well. By the way, I'm a proud bounty hunter, not a trader and ain't trading for nobody. Trading is different from bounty hunting. For VANTA, if you think stealing our tokens (for not trading 10 days) is good, add them to your supply and try to surpass bitcoin on market cap.


So guys, what is your take on VANTA, A scam or not?
For me, any project that is not legit enough to pay the bounty hunters is not worth investing.

It's definitely a scam and it's good to know that you are opposing it and standing for your rights. Such scam projects should be reported then and there so that others become aware of it and not get scammed.

[tranduong123]

They have a rule, those who have complied with the rules that have received a token, those who do not comply, do not receive it, it cannot be called a scam.

[NotFoundGlobal]

I spent 6 weeks working on a project called VANTA and finally end up without a payment. I started working on VANTA since from the 1st week to the final and yet I got no payment. After we started working for VANTA 3 weeks in, the Bounty manager comes out with a new rule saying, everyone must trade 2308 VNT on Allbit for 10 consecutive days, if not, no payment.

If that rule was there from the beginning many would not join the campaign. The bounty program was originally 4 weeks, the 2 weeks was added later when they implemented the new rule for 10 days trading on Allbit.

Note: I even traded VNT on Allbit for about 3-4 days and I stopped because I was busy working on other projects as well. By the way, I'm a proud bounty hunter, not a trader and ain't trading for nobody. Trading is different from bounty hunting. For VANTA, if you think stealing our tokens (for not trading 10 days) is good, add them to your supply and try to surpass bitcoin on market cap.


So guys, what is your take on VANTA, A scam or not?
For me, any project that is not legit enough to pay the bounty hunters is not worth investing.
thanks for the support, everyone.

That's your problem, you work another project but you didn't finish the first project (seems not fair).
You got a reward from another project but the first project doesn't full the requirement.

Trading is basic! Vanta gave you the token, you also don't need to think the price will be up or down, just trade it because it's free token. LoL

"Trading is different from bounty hunting."
Trade is simple than bounty hunting, not good on Technical Analysis? no problem, vanta give you a free token to claim a bounty reward.

Conclusion: Manage your time as well, you are a bounty hunter, not a king/boss (all participant are same who they busy every day or not). Check any update about bounty project where you joined.
Vanta did not scam anyone, just fill the complain form if anybody did a requirement but don't get a bounty reward.

CMIIW

[herdiansyahdanang]

I spent 6 weeks working on a project called VANTA and finally end up without a payment. I started working on VANTA since from the 1st week to the final and yet I got no payment. After we started working for VANTA 3 weeks in, the Bounty manager comes out with a new rule saying, everyone must trade 2308 VNT on Allbit for 10 consecutive days, if not, no payment.

If that rule was there from the beginning many would not join the campaign. The bounty program was originally 4 weeks, the 2 weeks was added later when they implemented the new rule for 10 days trading on Allbit.

Note: I even traded VNT on Allbit for about 3-4 days and I stopped because I was busy working on other projects as well. By the way, I'm a proud bounty hunter, not a trader and ain't trading for nobody. Trading is different from bounty hunting. For VANTA, if you think stealing our tokens (for not trading 10 days) is good, add them to your supply and try to surpass bitcoin on market cap.


So guys, what is your take on VANTA, A scam or not?
For me, any project that is not legit enough to pay the bounty hunters is not worth investing.
thanks for the support, everyone.

That's your problem, you work another project but you didn't finish the first project (seems not fair).
You got a reward from another project but the first project doesn't full the requirement.

Trading is basic! Vanta gave you the token, you also don't need to think the price will be up or down, just trade it because it's free token. LoL

"Trading is different from bounty hunting."
Trade is simple than bounty hunting, not good on Technical Analysis? no problem, vanta give you a free token to claim a bounty reward.

Conclusion: Manage your time as well, you are a bounty hunter, not a king/boss (all participant are same who they busy every day or not). Check any update about bounty project where you joined.
Vanta did not scam anyone, just fill the complain form if anybody did a requirement but don't get a bounty reward.

CMIIW

Indeed, this is a rule from the VANTA team, but in my opinion it is difficult for Bounty hunters to receive tokens, I also know that VANTA tokens are sent free after a wallet check has no notification, after checking the bounty thread they have a new regulation.

[nik009]

VANTA's team that did not pay for the work of the PR campaign - does not deserve the trust of investors. This behavior deserves a red tag.

[Jack_Sin]

The rule is strange because there are no such rules in other bounties before, the rules for trading 10 consecutive days are just the team's goal to increase the volume

[cybersofts]

The rule is strange because there are no such rules in other bounties before, the rules for trading 10 consecutive days are just the team's goal to increase the volume

VANTA's effort to create a FAKE trading volume to attract more investors and exchanges alike. I'm still asking myself is that even legal? it is a fraudulent practice, of course.

[bitgolden]

I am very sorry for your loss man, this is the reason why I would never choose to work for any project for free because it might end up becoming a real waste of time for me, I always ask any team project that wants me to be part of them should make a commitment fee to me before I commence working with them so that if anything happens in the future like this type of experience, I would have nothing whatsoever to loss, I think you should make use of this same model too to avoid being scammed repeatedly.

Due to fallen market conditions, now a days we cannot distinguish failed projects due to improper management from intentional scam attempts. We need to be careful with all possible ways. Otherwise, getting scammed repeated would be the sequence like most developers and managers do face here.

[timmmers]

The rule is strange because there are no such rules in other bounties before, the rules for trading 10 consecutive days are just the team's goal to increase the volume

VANTA's effort to create a FAKE trading volume to attract more investors and exchanges alike. I'm still asking myself is that even legal? it is a fraudulent practice, of course.

It is not fake trading volume, it is volume created by real traders - but these traders are temporary and that could cause a problem.
And there are many other probably ilegal activities, like pushing users to vote for getting listed on exchange.

[gensol]

It could be their own way of trying to get trading volume they might be dumping as well in the market to get more money before they exit scam. Sad you worked that long for them.

[Bharathi13]

It could be their own way of trying to get trading volume they might be dumping as well in the market to get more money before they exit scam. Sad you worked that long for them.

I think they will soon exit scam as there is no one from the project team on the Vanta community to address the issues of the bounty hunters and the just give one mail ID to raise the issue but no one gets the answers. They scammed bounty hunters of around 13 to 17 BTC worth VNT token as they are not giving tokens to those who did not trade for 10 days on allbit.

[pat25]

I am the one who didn´t receive rewards because when I registered on Allbit they didn´t allow me to pass KYC because my country is not at the list of accepted countries. 

But, I do not care, they reduced rewards for participants 10 times! So no big loss here.