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Don't you get it yet? When Russia and China interfere it is A-OK, when the US interferes the sky is falling. Get with the program subject.
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Venezuela needs help and I think this is a good intervention. I don't know why some international bodies like UN are so silent on the political instability in the country. Until recently, you would only hear the interest from Trump and the USA government. This is a good intervention from the Russian government and I hope it yields good results. The citizenry of Venezuela have suffered a lot and this intervention should definitely bring smiles on the face of the ordinary people.
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March 29, 2019, 05:16:37 PM Last edit: March 29, 2019, 05:40:08 PM by Artemis3 |
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The "official" account is that these 99 Russians came to do maintenance and fix weapon systems previously bought from them, such as the S-300VM
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March 29, 2019, 05:30:53 PM |
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Russian is one of the world power and if Russia and China interference in any political or economic matter have to be taken with all seriousness, Venezuela government should take this with all seriousness.
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March 29, 2019, 08:48:54 PM |
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The "official" account is that these 99 Russians came to do maintenance and fix weapon systems previously bought from them, such as the S-300VM
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F1%2F1a%2F9A83ME_TEL_-_Antey-2500_SAM_02.jpg%2F320px-9A83ME_TEL_-_Antey-2500_SAM_02.jpg&t=665&c=xM6XSsmmJFkSpA) . Unfortunately, the USA will not tolerate a buildup of Russian or Chinese troops in Venezuela. The people of Venezuela will have to choose who they want to support, because if you try to sit on the fence, you will become the next grounds for proxy war. Not saying it is fair, but it is reality.
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March 30, 2019, 12:22:07 AM |
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who cares, in 30 years there might be no russian central bank anymore, and those weapons would move into the hands of local authoriies like its going to happen with brexit UK oversea territories.
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March 30, 2019, 11:57:45 AM |
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Russian intervention is better than US intervention It will help the country with all certainty. Russia is working to find peace all over the world. It has worked on its terrorist warriors in the Middle East.
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March 30, 2019, 12:54:40 PM |
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Russian intervention is better than US intervention It will help the country with all certainty. Russia is working to find peace all over the world. It has worked on its terrorist warriors in the Middle East. Make no mistake, Russia got involved because it served their own security interests. Not because of anything else.
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March 30, 2019, 01:18:33 PM Last edit: March 30, 2019, 01:45:03 PM by KingScorpio |
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Russian intervention is better than US intervention It will help the country with all certainty. Russia is working to find peace all over the world. It has worked on its terrorist warriors in the Middle East. Make no mistake, Russia got involved because it served their own security interests. Not because of anything else. does it matter weather maduro or guidao is the countries placed money printer? in any case the purpose is in order to delude the public. that he (maduro/guidao) is king and they are supposed to be money earning cattle. jes you can have a burocratic and efficient banking system with jewish bankers which are actually quite good. but whats the problem is why is it important how the person in power in that respective country looks like. why cant the usa live with maduro? russia can live with both, but it prefers to have continuity instead of contstant hick hack. so there is at least reliability
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March 30, 2019, 02:02:00 PM |
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does it matter weather maduro or guidao is the countries placed money printer?
in any case the purpose is in order to delude the public. that he (maduro/guidao) is king and they are supposed to be money earning cattle.
jes you can have a burocratic and efficient banking system with jewish bankers which are actually quite good. but whats the problem is why is it important how the person in power in that respective country looks like. why cant the usa live with maduro? russia can live with both, but it prefers to have continuity instead of contstant hick hack. so there is at least reliability
Because Maduro will let Russia and China use Venezuela as a military staging ground to invade the USA complete with its own oil supply to fuel it. This will not be tolerated by the US administration, and Russia is already building up troops there.
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It's obvious that Venezuela becoming ''playing grand'' for a big countries like America, Russia or China. Each country have their own agenda, political and economical interest in Venezuela. Last move from Russia is actually message to Trump: ''Don't dare to send your soldiers here!'. The saga continues and the people are starving.
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I don't usually get excited when it comes to the kind of topics but Russia is doing the right thing. Russia is one of the strongest nations of all. Here's another link: "As Maduro confronts a crisis, Russia’s footprint in Venezuela grows"One of the main reason why Russia is trying to help Maduro is that Venezuela is one of the largest known oil reserves. Moscow also plays a big role in this issue as they are trying to dispatch military personnel and equipment and is acting to offset the United States sanctions by shipping Venezuelan crude to Indra for processing. Just read the article for more. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 30, 2019, 04:26:00 PM |
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does it matter weather maduro or guidao is the countries placed money printer?
in any case the purpose is in order to delude the public. that he (maduro/guidao) is king and they are supposed to be money earning cattle.
jes you can have a burocratic and efficient banking system with jewish bankers which are actually quite good. but whats the problem is why is it important how the person in power in that respective country looks like. why cant the usa live with maduro? russia can live with both, but it prefers to have continuity instead of contstant hick hack. so there is at least reliability
Because Maduro will let Russia and China use Venezuela as a military staging ground to invade the USA complete with its own oil supply to fuel it. This will not be tolerated by the US administration, and Russia is already building up troops there. such nonsense, why should they invade the usa? everything is about sovereignty. they are arming these countries because their governments are afraid of the usa destabilising them with constant regime changes. russia and china also like human rights, and having a good and innovative economy.
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March 30, 2019, 04:33:06 PM Last edit: March 30, 2019, 07:38:41 PM by Artemis3 |
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Aside from the missiles there are a few more weapon platforms bought in the time of Chávez, such as the 35 or so Sukhois Su-30. From time to time a pair of bombers come and leave, and once a fleet of ships, reportedly with nuclear warheads came for a parade then left some years ago. They might have some interests but their commitment seems lacking at most. It is clear that China would secretly want someone else, and probably Russia as well. Maduro destroyed the country to a point where its even hurting THEIR interests. who cares,
in 30 years there might be no russian central bank anymore, and those weapons would move into the hands of local authoriies like its going to happen with brexit UK oversea territories.
Said by someone who doesn't have to live days in total darkness and weeks without water. Does it matter who "prints" money? Yes, A LOT. Under tyranny there is little you can do. Want to use bitcoin? oh there is no electricity, or no internet... Everyday i understand a little more how the people survive in north korea... From your freedom you can choose which fiat or crypto to use, not here. The difference is abysmal. Its not the same "printing money" when you have the privilege of not using it, than "printing money" when you are coerced to NOT use anything else. But you have yet to live under "socialism" to truly get it. Within the realm of imagination and theory, everything looks beautiful, now try it in practice...
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March 30, 2019, 05:04:48 PM |
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does it matter weather maduro or guidao is the countries placed money printer?
in any case the purpose is in order to delude the public. that he (maduro/guidao) is king and they are supposed to be money earning cattle.
jes you can have a burocratic and efficient banking system with jewish bankers which are actually quite good. but whats the problem is why is it important how the person in power in that respective country looks like. why cant the usa live with maduro? russia can live with both, but it prefers to have continuity instead of contstant hick hack. so there is at least reliability
Because Maduro will let Russia and China use Venezuela as a military staging ground to invade the USA complete with its own oil supply to fuel it. This will not be tolerated by the US administration, and Russia is already building up troops there. I believe this to be the case. They will strike soon after America enters it's 2nd Civil War. A civil war brought on by its building political, social, and economic tensions. The boiling point is near.
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March 30, 2019, 05:30:14 PM |
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Aside from the missiles there are a few more weapon platforms bought in the time of Chávez, such as the 35 or so Sukhois Su-30. From time to time a pair of bombers come and leave, and once a fleet of ships, reportedly with nuclear warheads came for a parade then left some years ago. They might have some interests but their commitment seems lacking at most. It is clear that China would secretly want someone else, and probably Russia as well. Maduro destroyed the country to a point where its even hurting THEIR interests. who cares,
in 30 years there might be no russian central bank anymore, and those weapons would move into the hands of local authoriies like its going to happen with brexit UK oversea territories.
Said by someone who doesn't have to live days in total darkness and weeks without water. Does it matter who "prints" money? Yes, A LOT. Under tyranny there is little you can do. Want to use bitcoin? oh there is no electricity, or no internet... Everyday i understand a little more how the people survive in north korea... From your freedom you can choose which fiat or crypto to use, not here. The difference is abysmal. Its not the same "printing money" when you have the privileged of not using it, than "printing money" when you are coerced to NOT use anything else. But you have yet to live under "socialism" to truly get it. Within the realm of imagination and theory, everything looks beautiful, now try it in practice... there is no difference for the workers weather maduro or guadio or who he is correctly spells prints the money, both is capitalism with these two figures at the top. constantly questioning the capitalists only damages the development of structures in venezuela. there is also a tyrany of us capitalism, its the tyrany of being poor and having no money.
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Aside from the missiles there are a few more weapon platforms bought in the time of Chávez, such as the 35 or so Sukhois Su-30. From time to time a pair of bombers come and leave, and once a fleet of ships, reportedly with nuclear warheads came for a parade then left some years ago. They might have some interests but their commitment seems lacking at most. It is clear that China would secretly want someone else, and probably Russia as well. Maduro destroyed the country to a point where its even hurting THEIR interests. who cares,
in 30 years there might be no russian central bank anymore, and those weapons would move into the hands of local authoriies like its going to happen with brexit UK oversea territories.
Said by someone who doesn't have to live days in total darkness and weeks without water. Does it matter who "prints" money? Yes, A LOT. Under tyranny there is little you can do. Want to use bitcoin? oh there is no electricity, or no internet... Everyday i understand a little more how the people survive in north korea... From your freedom you can choose which fiat or crypto to use, not here. The difference is abysmal. Its not the same "printing money" when you have the privileged of not using it, than "printing money" when you are coerced to NOT use anything else. But you have yet to live under "socialism" to truly get it. Within the realm of imagination and theory, everything looks beautiful, now try it in practice... there is no difference for the workers weather maduro or guadio or who he is correctly spells prints the money, both is capitalism with these two figures at the top. constantly questioning the capitalists only damages the development of structures in venezuela. there is also a tyrany of us capitalism, its the tyrany of being poor and having no money. Being poor has a lot to do with making poor choices. Like when I see somebody using food stamps and buying cigarettes. Or having their 6th child from the 4th daddy. Capitalism rewards work. Socialism penalizes it.
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March 30, 2019, 06:55:18 PM |
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does it matter weather maduro or guidao is the countries placed money printer?
in any case the purpose is in order to delude the public. that he (maduro/guidao) is king and they are supposed to be money earning cattle.
jes you can have a burocratic and efficient banking system with jewish bankers which are actually quite good. but whats the problem is why is it important how the person in power in that respective country looks like. why cant the usa live with maduro? russia can live with both, but it prefers to have continuity instead of contstant hick hack. so there is at least reliability
Because Maduro will let Russia and China use Venezuela as a military staging ground to invade the USA complete with its own oil supply to fuel it. This will not be tolerated by the US administration, and Russia is already building up troops there. such nonsense, why should they invade the usa? everything is about sovereignty. they are arming these countries because their governments are afraid of the usa destabilising them with constant regime changes. russia and china also like human rights, and having a good and innovative economy. You are what ignorant as to what is happening here aren't you? The US and China are already in the early stages of war. The US and Russia have been engaging in proxy war for some time too. China wants to take the USA, there is no doubt. Also I love the part about China having human rights. That is fucking hilarious.
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there is no difference for the workers weather maduro or guadio or who he is correctly spells prints the money, both is capitalism with these two figures at the top. constantly questioning the capitalists only damages the development of structures in venezuela.
there is also a tyrany of us capitalism, its the tyrany of being poor and having no money. Of course there is! In one system you have fed workers, even Marx etc mention the capitalists will give them the bare minimum for them to keep working the next day and keep "exploiting" them. But not here, they are quitting the state owned companies TO eat (do something else, often technically "illegal" or outright illegal). What Maduro is doing is not even State capitalism, no one knows what it is but whatever it is, doesn't work. He keeps using the socialist rhetoric though. He DID had a Leninist mentor, and certainly Lenin at some point talked about destroying the currency to defeat capitalism, which is why some people think he does it on purpose. Unfortunately the victims are not the "capitalists", those wealthy enough simply move their business elsewhere, only the poor cannot go anywhere. It is not the same when you have "underpaid" workers that can eat, vs underpaid workers that can't. A ruined economy doesn't benefit anyone, but that's precisely what he and his close people do. Some claim they act like a criminal gang, since they are the ones getting the most benefits while the population is suffering by their mega exploitation known as hyperinflation.
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