Demo M20 v1 is on order due May 20th

[philipma1957]

I was allowed to order a M20 V1 from pangolinminer.
Due on may 20th

should do 72th and 3312 watts  or 46 watts a th

I paid in full  with no discount other then it is due to ship out to me before May 20th

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3ERrWbZnr6JxxHqXKGxeVW8deFe2NRcMB6

I will post info here when it comes.

Sound in db
Power drawn  could be an issue as my 30/24 amp pdus are fused at 15 amps per plug which may not work with a 3312 watt load.

Note this is not in speculation  because  It is staing I paid for the demo and show the payment to pangolin thus it is a fact.

It only means it is ordered and is due before may 20th.

Keep an eye peeled as these are costly items 2048 usd was paid by me today.

plus I may get trump tax of 520 or so making it a 2568 item.

Note to mods if you think it should be in speculation  it is cool by me.

[TheYankeesWin!]

0.507 btc is a lot for a preorder. Due in 50 days

[philipma1957]

At yankees yeah it is a lot and 50 day wait time is 5 days past my limit for preorders.

But I am in a funny spot.  The Clifton build is power capped. 

I have

 M10's      = 8
 S15        = 1
 T15        = 1
 t2turbo   = 1
A921       =  1

 I want to move out all the gear below

 20 s9's    say  230th and  23000 watts
   2 721's  say    11th and   1500 watts
   2 s7ln    say     5th  and   1500 watts

this is 246th  and 26000 watts

8 new M20 v1 = 576 th and  26496

also will cost 8 x 2000 = 16000 + 4000 trump tax  and wait till July shipping  with no idea if the gear is good.

Getting the 1 demo  reduces risk to 2000 + 500 trump tax and gives me an idea if it is good gear.

It also gives people a chance to decide if they should do orders of these.

May 20th is a long wait for 2000 bucks but some risks need to be done.

Ideal is it comes a little early it works well. "we will see what we shall see."

[Artemis3]

Is this the large M10S like unit? 72T or 46T? Can you post size dimensions as I'm now confused with the three M20 models... An independent review is always welcome.

[philipma1957]

Is this the large M10S like unit? 72T or 46T? Can you post size dimensions as I'm now confused with the three M20 models... An independent review is always welcome.

It should be larger like the M10S and there are no dimensions for it as of now.

I am basing the preorder on the fact that they have sent me 7m10's and some m3's all on time.

this is all I have for info

Weight   14 kg
Algorithm   
SHA-256
Chips Process Technology   
12nm TSMC
Hashrate   
72.0 Th/s, 58.0 Th/s, 48.0 Th/s
Power Consumption   
3312W (+-10%) @ 72th/s, 3364W (+-10%) @ 58th/s, 2208W (+-10%) @ 48th/s
Working Temperature   
-5℃ ~ 40℃
Warranty   
180 days after shipment

Note bold type is my order.

I ordered this cable

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014JWENSO/

and I have this cable

https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Heavy-Duty-IEC-320-C19-P040-014/dp/B005KKCNXW/

so I can go wall out to psu no pdu just in case.

[HagssFIN]

Wow, the 72Th/s one is a big piece of gear.

Will be interesting to see it in action.

[philipma1957]

Wow, the 72Th/s one is a big piece of gear.

Will be interesting to see it in action.

yeah  I may end up  needing to rewire  Clifton  as I think the pdu's won't work with it.

these are well priced

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interpower-250V-20A-Appliance-Computer-L6-20P-to-C19-Cord-Plug-Certified-10-feet/223080235190?

[Artemis3]

How many amps do you think that miner will pull? maybe 15a rated wiring would be too close?

[HagssFIN]

Greater than or equal 20A amp rating would be in the safe zone.

[philipma1957]

in Clifton we run around 229 volts  so 3312 / 229 = 14.46 amps  24/7/365  a 20 amp wire is derated to 16 amps so you need a 20 amp cable

a short run of 12 gauge will be okay  but close

10 gauge is no worry.

I may need to make cables  from this

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Power-Extension-Cord-15FT-L6-30P-L6-30R-10AWG-30Amp-200-250VAC-Black-10-3C/123699039492?

pull the l6-30r and swap in a c13 or c19

https://www.parts-express.com/wattgate-320i-hc-black-high-current-iec-ac-power-connector--110-444

this rates but I do not know what the socket will be to this item.

an l6-30p to >>> 10 gauge cable to the   c 19 above  costly cable to get a 20 amp rating.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Or see what Stayonline dot com has for you. That link is to 6-15 cables but they also have 6-20 and custom ones. Great source for cables.

What is the PSU receptacle? IEC C13, 15, 19, 20, etc?? They do them all of course.

[philipma1957]

I don't know if it will be a c13 or c19  also don't know if they are going to go to stacked short tube  like the T15 and s15.

Info is lite here.  Specs and not much else

All my pdus  have 15 amp fused individual plugs

I suspect  it will need to power directly from the wall  which I don't like.

I have this cable   a 10 gauge I can unscrew the l6-30r  and add this

http://wattgate.com/products/320ihc/   that  will handle 16 to 20 amps

[HagssFIN]

I think it will follow earlier models and have a IEC C14 receptable, which takes in a cable with IEC C13 connector.

edit: This was a brain fart. Please see my later post below.

[philipma1957]

I think it will follow earlier models and have a IEC C14 receptable, which takes in a cable with IEC C13 connector.

may be okay with a IEC C13  it is a 15 amp item.  Have to wait and see.

Of course a lower speed more efficient setting say 60  2400watts  fixes all issues.

I ordered the 72th gear with the hope it has 2 speeds.

72th 3312watts = 46 watts a th

60th 2400 watts= 40 watts a th

these 2 settings would be ideal

[HagssFIN]

https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m10s-with-psu/
I just looked at this M10S product page,
and I had a good look at the psu power receptable.

Please forget what I said in the earlier post.

It is actually a very wise choice if they use a IEC C20 receptable (which takes in a IEC C19 power cord),
just like they used with the M10S model.

C19 - C20 couple has a maximum current rating of 16 Amps (IEC standard, international).

Where as C13 - C14 is only 10 Amps.

[philipma1957]

https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m10s-with-psu/
I just looked at this M10S product page,
and I had a good look at the psu power receptable.

Please forget what I said in the earlier post.

It is actually a very wise choice if they use a IEC C20 receptable (which takes in a IEC C19 power cord),
just like they used with the M10S model.

C19 - C20 couple has a maximum current rating of 16 Amps (IEC standard, international).

good find.

Then I can use this cable in red for "Danger"

https://www.amazon.com/C20-C19-Power-Cord-IBX-1804-06/dp/B00CFQKMX2/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

I have to check the specs on my apc ap7841 pdus

https://datasheet.octopart.com/AP7841-APC-datasheet-10006789.pdf

[Steamtyme]

I have the same unit on order for the May 20th Demo release. I was originally going to grab a 48TH unit, but ran out of time securing more coins for the order. Really depleted myself with the M10 orders. Thankfully I was able to secure this last night.

Due to past dealing with Pangolin, I'm not worried about the timing on the pre-orders. Definitely going against my no batch 1 order rule of the past, but it was an opportunity I couldn't pass up looking into the summer months. I do believe these will be delivered on spec.

My only real worry comes down to leveraging nearly 44% of my hashrate on 1 machine. This machine will never make it into the house for my winter mining down the road, but it will do just fine in my garage year round.

For me I run steadily at or above 240V, in full power mode I will be 13.8 amps. I'm not sure if I will upgrade the circuit to 30 amps just to be safe or not. This will be the only machine on the circuit, so even at +10% I'm under 16 Amps steady load. I should have everything in place to do a proper power draw reading as well, so if needed I'll know I need to change things up.

Good find on the cables, I was just going to wait to hear from Pangolin for more detailed specs so I can be sure I'm ready.

[philipma1957]

I have the same unit on order for the May 20th Demo release. I was originally going to grab a 48TH unit, but ran out of time securing more coins for the order. Really depleted myself with the M10 orders. Thankfully I was able to secure this last night.

Due to past dealing with Pangolin, I'm not worried about the timing on the pre-orders. Definitely going against my no batch 1 order rule of the past, but it was an opportunity I couldn't pass up looking into the summer months. I do believe these will be delivered on spec.

My only real worry comes down to leveraging nearly 44% of my hashrate on 1 machine. This machine will never make it into the house for my winter mining down the road, but it will do just fine in my garage year round.

For me I run steadily at or above 240V, in full power mode I will be 13.8 amps. I'm not sure if I will upgrade the circuit to 30 amps just to be safe or not. This will be the only machine on the circuit, so even at +10% I'm under 16 Amps steady load. I should have everything in place to do a proper power draw reading as well, so if needed I'll know I need to change things up.

Good find on the cables, I was just going to wait to hear from Pangolin for more detailed specs so I can be sure I'm ready.

Yeah I am not looking to get more then one for now.

 I want to be sure the 3312 watts is manageable up in Clifton.  We could run it at buysolars smaller array Since the longer days are around  and he will be moving 3x l3 +'s to Clifton   that's 2100 watts  so a net plus of 1200 watts and a grand total of 3312 + 1200 = 4500 watts at the lessor array.

this is a costly unit 2048 and maybe 500 trump tax = 2548 usd a lot more then I want to spend but I have heard the trump tax is going to drop to 10%  so maybe be more like 240 tax vs 500 tax.  I can live with that.  I rather run it at the local array for a month before I bring it up to clifton.

[Artemis3]

https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m10s-with-psu/
I just looked at this M10S product page,
and I had a good look at the psu power receptable.

Please forget what I said in the earlier post.

It is actually a very wise choice if they use a IEC C20 receptable (which takes in a IEC C19 power cord),
just like they used with the M10S model.

C19 - C20 couple has a maximum current rating of 16 Amps (IEC standard, international).

Where as C13 - C14 is only 10 Amps.

For reference,

C13/C14 coupler:



C19/C20 coupler:



M10S-FRONT:

[HagssFIN]

@Artemis3

Thanks. Yep, I made a close comparison like that to correct my brain fart.