philipma1957 (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4214
Merit: 8367
'The right to privacy matters'
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 30, 2019, 03:28:28 PM Last edit: April 01, 2019, 12:34:11 AM by frodocooper Merited by OgNasty (1), HagssFIN (1), frodocooper (1) |
|
I was allowed to order a M20 V1 from pangolinminer. Due on may 20th should do 72th and 3312 watts or 46 watts a th I paid in full with no discount other then it is due to ship out to me before May 20th https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3ERrWbZnr6JxxHqXKGxeVW8deFe2NRcMB6I will post info here when it comes. Sound in db Power drawn could be an issue as my 30/24 amp pdus are fused at 15 amps per plug which may not work with a 3312 watt load. Note this is not in speculation because It is staing I paid for the demo and show the payment to pangolin thus it is a fact. It only means it is ordered and is due before may 20th. Keep an eye peeled as these are costly items 2048 usd was paid by me today. plus I may get trump tax of 520 or so making it a 2568 item. Note to mods if you think it should be in speculation it is cool by me.
|
|
|
|
TheYankeesWin!
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 30, 2019, 03:30:19 PM |
|
0.507 btc is a lot for a preorder. Due in 50 days
|
|
|
|
philipma1957 (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4214
Merit: 8367
'The right to privacy matters'
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 30, 2019, 03:40:06 PM |
|
At yankees yeah it is a lot and 50 day wait time is 5 days past my limit for preorders.
But I am in a funny spot. The Clifton build is power capped.
I have
M10's = 8 S15 = 1 T15 = 1 t2turbo = 1 A921 = 1
I want to move out all the gear below
20 s9's say 230th and 23000 watts 2 721's say 11th and 1500 watts 2 s7ln say 5th and 1500 watts
this is 246th and 26000 watts
8 new M20 v1 = 576 th and 26496
also will cost 8 x 2000 = 16000 + 4000 trump tax and wait till July shipping with no idea if the gear is good.
Getting the 1 demo reduces risk to 2000 + 500 trump tax and gives me an idea if it is good gear.
It also gives people a chance to decide if they should do orders of these.
May 20th is a long wait for 2000 bucks but some risks need to be done.
Ideal is it comes a little early it works well. "we will see what we shall see."
|
|
|
|
Artemis3
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1563
CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 30, 2019, 03:45:46 PM Last edit: April 01, 2019, 12:35:11 AM by frodocooper |
|
Is this the large M10S like unit? 72T or 46T? Can you post size dimensions as I'm now confused with the three M20 models... An independent review is always welcome.
|
█████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████ | BRAIINS OS+| | AUTOTUNING MINING FIRMWARE| | Increase hashrate on your Bitcoin ASICs, improve efficiency as much as 25%, and get 0% pool fees on Braiins Pool | |
|
|
|
philipma1957 (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4214
Merit: 8367
'The right to privacy matters'
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 30, 2019, 03:55:35 PM Last edit: April 01, 2019, 12:35:55 AM by frodocooper |
|
Is this the large M10S like unit? 72T or 46T? Can you post size dimensions as I'm now confused with the three M20 models... An independent review is always welcome.
It should be larger like the M10S and there are no dimensions for it as of now. I am basing the preorder on the fact that they have sent me 7m10's and some m3's all on time. this is all I have for info Weight 14 kg Algorithm SHA-256 Chips Process Technology 12nm TSMC Hashrate 72.0 Th/s, 58.0 Th/s, 48.0 Th/s Power Consumption 3312W (+-10%) @ 72th/s, 3364W (+-10%) @ 58th/s, 2208W (+-10%) @ 48th/s Working Temperature -5℃ ~ 40℃ Warranty 180 days after shipment
Note bold type is my order. I ordered this cable https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014JWENSO/and I have this cable https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Heavy-Duty-IEC-320-C19-P040-014/dp/B005KKCNXW/so I can go wall out to psu no pdu just in case.
|
|
|
|
HagssFIN
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1709
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 30, 2019, 05:19:09 PM |
|
Wow, the 72Th/s one is a big piece of gear.
Will be interesting to see it in action.
|
|
|
|
|
Artemis3
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1563
CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 30, 2019, 05:53:06 PM Last edit: April 01, 2019, 12:36:36 AM by frodocooper |
|
How many amps do you think that miner will pull? maybe 15a rated wiring would be too close?
|
█████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████ | BRAIINS OS+| | AUTOTUNING MINING FIRMWARE| | Increase hashrate on your Bitcoin ASICs, improve efficiency as much as 25%, and get 0% pool fees on Braiins Pool | |
|
|
|
HagssFIN
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1709
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 30, 2019, 06:20:07 PM |
|
Greater than or equal 20A amp rating would be in the safe zone.
|
|
|
|
|
NotFuzzyWarm
Legendary
Online
Activity: 3724
Merit: 2655
Evil beware: We have waffles!
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 31, 2019, 12:25:49 AM |
|
Or see what Stayonline dot com has for you. That link is to 6-15 cables but they also have 6-20 and custom ones. Great source for cables. What is the PSU receptacle? IEC C13, 15, 19, 20, etc?? They do them all of course.
|
|
|
|
philipma1957 (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4214
Merit: 8367
'The right to privacy matters'
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 31, 2019, 02:17:07 PM Last edit: April 01, 2019, 12:37:41 AM by frodocooper |
|
I don't know if it will be a c13 or c19 also don't know if they are going to go to stacked short tube like the T15 and s15. Info is lite here. Specs and not much else All my pdus have 15 amp fused individual plugs I suspect it will need to power directly from the wall which I don't like. I have this cable a 10 gauge I can unscrew the l6-30r and add this http://wattgate.com/products/320ihc/ that will handle 16 to 20 amps ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIwsgAM2.png&t=665&c=zNJ6zwToK4beRw)
|
|
|
|
HagssFIN
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1709
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 31, 2019, 02:19:56 PM Last edit: March 31, 2019, 04:57:07 PM by HagssFIN |
|
I think it will follow earlier models and have a IEC C14 receptable, which takes in a cable with IEC C13 connector.
edit: This was a brain fart. Please see my later post below.
|
|
|
|
philipma1957 (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4214
Merit: 8367
'The right to privacy matters'
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 31, 2019, 04:36:55 PM |
|
I think it will follow earlier models and have a IEC C14 receptable, which takes in a cable with IEC C13 connector.
may be okay with a IEC C13 it is a 15 amp item. Have to wait and see. Of course a lower speed more efficient setting say 60 2400watts fixes all issues. I ordered the 72th gear with the hope it has 2 speeds. 72th 3312watts = 46 watts a th 60th 2400 watts= 40 watts a th these 2 settings would be ideal
|
|
|
|
HagssFIN
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1709
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
March 31, 2019, 04:56:41 PM Last edit: March 31, 2019, 05:19:53 PM by HagssFIN Merited by frodocooper (1) |
|
https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m10s-with-psu/I just looked at this M10 S product page, and I had a good look at the psu power receptable. Please forget what I said in the earlier post. It is actually a very wise choice if they use a IEC C20 receptable (which takes in a IEC C19 power cord), just like they used with the M10 S model. C19 - C20 couple has a maximum current rating of 16 Amps (IEC standard, international). Where as C13 - C14 is only 10 Amps.
|
|
|
|
|
Steamtyme
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1554
Merit: 2036
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
April 01, 2019, 03:08:17 AM |
|
I have the same unit on order for the May 20th Demo release. I was originally going to grab a 48TH unit, but ran out of time securing more coins for the order. Really depleted myself with the M10 orders. Thankfully I was able to secure this last night.
Due to past dealing with Pangolin, I'm not worried about the timing on the pre-orders. Definitely going against my no batch 1 order rule of the past, but it was an opportunity I couldn't pass up looking into the summer months. I do believe these will be delivered on spec.
My only real worry comes down to leveraging nearly 44% of my hashrate on 1 machine. This machine will never make it into the house for my winter mining down the road, but it will do just fine in my garage year round.
For me I run steadily at or above 240V, in full power mode I will be 13.8 amps. I'm not sure if I will upgrade the circuit to 30 amps just to be safe or not. This will be the only machine on the circuit, so even at +10% I'm under 16 Amps steady load. I should have everything in place to do a proper power draw reading as well, so if needed I'll know I need to change things up.
Good find on the cables, I was just going to wait to hear from Pangolin for more detailed specs so I can be sure I'm ready.
|
░░░░░▄▄██████▄▄ ░░▄████▀▀▀▀▀▀████▄ ░███▀░░░░░░░░░░▀█▀█ ███░░░▄██████▄▄░░░██ ░░░░░█████████░░░░██▌ ░░░░█████████████████ ░░░░█████████████████ ░░░░░████████████████ ███▄░░▀██████▀░░░███ █▀█▄▄░░░░░░░░░░▄███ ░░▀████▄▄▄▄▄▄████▀ ░░░░░▀▀██████▀▀
| Ripmixer ░░░░░▄▄██████▄▄ ░░▄████▀▀▀▀▀▀████▄ ░███▀░░░░░░░░░░▀█▀█ ███░░░▄██████▄▄░░░██ ░░░░░█████████░░░░██▌ ░░░░█████████████████ ░░░░█████████████████ ░░░░░████████████████ ███▄░░▀██████▀░░░███ █▀█▄▄░░░░░░░░░░▄███ ░░▀████▄▄▄▄▄▄████▀ ░░░░░▀▀██████▀▀
|
|
|
|
philipma1957 (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 4214
Merit: 8367
'The right to privacy matters'
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
April 01, 2019, 03:18:58 AM |
|
I have the same unit on order for the May 20th Demo release. I was originally going to grab a 48TH unit, but ran out of time securing more coins for the order. Really depleted myself with the M10 orders. Thankfully I was able to secure this last night.
Due to past dealing with Pangolin, I'm not worried about the timing on the pre-orders. Definitely going against my no batch 1 order rule of the past, but it was an opportunity I couldn't pass up looking into the summer months. I do believe these will be delivered on spec.
My only real worry comes down to leveraging nearly 44% of my hashrate on 1 machine. This machine will never make it into the house for my winter mining down the road, but it will do just fine in my garage year round.
For me I run steadily at or above 240V, in full power mode I will be 13.8 amps. I'm not sure if I will upgrade the circuit to 30 amps just to be safe or not. This will be the only machine on the circuit, so even at +10% I'm under 16 Amps steady load. I should have everything in place to do a proper power draw reading as well, so if needed I'll know I need to change things up.
Good find on the cables, I was just going to wait to hear from Pangolin for more detailed specs so I can be sure I'm ready.
Yeah I am not looking to get more then one for now. I want to be sure the 3312 watts is manageable up in Clifton. We could run it at buysolars smaller array Since the longer days are around and he will be moving 3x l3 +'s to Clifton that's 2100 watts so a net plus of 1200 watts and a grand total of 3312 + 1200 = 4500 watts at the lessor array. this is a costly unit 2048 and maybe 500 trump tax = 2548 usd a lot more then I want to spend but I have heard the trump tax is going to drop to 10% so maybe be more like 240 tax vs 500 tax. I can live with that. I rather run it at the local array for a month before I bring it up to clifton.
|
|
|
|
Artemis3
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1563
CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
April 01, 2019, 01:56:17 PM Last edit: April 02, 2019, 12:59:44 AM by frodocooper |
|
https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m10s-with-psu/I just looked at this M10 S product page, and I had a good look at the psu power receptable. Please forget what I said in the earlier post. It is actually a very wise choice if they use a IEC C20 receptable (which takes in a IEC C19 power cord), just like they used with the M10 S model. C19 - C20 couple has a maximum current rating of 16 Amps (IEC standard, international). Where as C13 - C14 is only 10 Amps. For reference, C13/C14 coupler: C19/C20 coupler: M10S-FRONT: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FdgcjMrj%2Fimage.png&t=665&c=ejwrON0m1isfhg)
|
█████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████ | BRAIINS OS+| | AUTOTUNING MINING FIRMWARE| | Increase hashrate on your Bitcoin ASICs, improve efficiency as much as 25%, and get 0% pool fees on Braiins Pool | |
|
|
|
HagssFIN
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1709
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
April 01, 2019, 02:14:18 PM |
|
@Artemis3 Thanks. Yep, I made a close comparison like that to correct my brain fart. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
|
|
|
|
|