Bad Faith in the Gambling Ecosystem

[Distinctin]

There is a big competition in the market and the gambling industry is very profitable.

Some competitors played a dirty way in order to discredit other gambling sites and to attract the gamblers to join in their site.
I don't see it as a new thing in crypto, the fact that it's not regulated, or appropriate to say that most gambling sites has no license, they can play it the way they want without restriction.

It's their competition but this benefits the gamblers in the general view.

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[DoublerHunter]

There is a big competition in the market and the gambling industry is very profitable.

Because that is the strategy of competition in the business field, the gambling industries now are growing populations so probably business owner has a dirty game to show up their business and make them a huge profit if they are succeeding. But in this case, let's speak people and choose whatever they want in a gambling site, they have their own decisions even how competitor destroy the image of gambling.

[roosbit]

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I still have faith in the gambling system, especially now that projects like faireum.io has revolutionized it.

Stop shilling out your faireum.io site. You are spamming everywhere.

Really thought this was nothing more than shilling which has also gone off topic with the discussion  

When there's a competition, it's part of it. It's not just about gambling and casino's but in any industry, you see reviews that are being published to give bad publicity to reduce their customers pool. There's some reviews too that has a main thing to do but to give good reviews. Every company is open for critic but those reviews that's giving them bad impression intentionally is a desperate move from their competitors. And if you're worried about protecting them, don't worry customers who are loyal to their casino and experiences heaven will not listen to hearsays.

You have a good point, we cant deny that this "fake reviews" practice is happening everywhere. That's why we should not rely on reviews completely, we should be able to filter which reviews are honest and which reviews are fake. This is why this forum is very helpful, I will only trust reviews made by users with good trust or good experiences, obviously there should be valid proofs of the review as well.

So are you saying we should put a blind eye to such reviews because of the filter used or because we are loyal customers and not experiencing the bad service as others

And don't you think that with the crypto ecosystem being generally unregulated, bad reviews need not to go unanswered by engaging these guys in forums they have a presence to come clean as its the only way to regulate them as their reputation is on the line if they choose to be mute..

[Twinkledoe]

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I still have faith in the gambling system, especially now that projects like faireum.io has revolutionized it.

Stop shilling out your faireum.io site. You are spamming everywhere.

Really thought this was nothing more than shilling which has also gone off topic with the discussion   

When there's a competition, it's part of it. It's not just about gambling and casino's but in any industry, you see reviews that are being published to give bad publicity to reduce their customers pool. There's some reviews too that has a main thing to do but to give good reviews. Every company is open for critic but those reviews that's giving them bad impression intentionally is a desperate move from their competitors. And if you're worried about protecting them, don't worry customers who are loyal to their casino and experiences heaven will not listen to hearsays.

You have a good point, we cant deny that this "fake reviews" practice is happening everywhere. That's why we should not rely on reviews completely, we should be able to filter which reviews are honest and which reviews are fake. This is why this forum is very helpful, I will only trust reviews made by users with good trust or good experiences, obviously there should be valid proofs of the review as well.

So are you saying we should put a blind eye to such reviews because of the filter used or because we are loyal customers and not experiencing the bad service as others

And don't you think that with the crypto ecosystem being generally unregulated, bad reviews need not to go unanswered by engaging these guys in forums they have a presence to come clean as its the only way to regulate them as their reputation is on the line if they choose to be mute..

He didn't say put a blind eye to such reviews but rather should not rely on reviews completely. We all know that most of them are paid reviews, so they are writing the article in a biased manner. You can assess what they are saying if you have actual experience on that platforms. They can always come clean but for you, you know what's the real deal.

[crzy]

There is a big competition in the market and the gambling industry is very profitable.

Because that is the strategy of competition in the business field, the gambling industries now are growing populations so probably business owner has a dirty game to show up their business and make them a huge profit if they are succeeding. But in this case, let's speak people and choose whatever they want in a gambling site, they have their own decisions even how competitor destroy the image of gambling.

Some may try to ruin any gambling sites that is blocking their road and for me its legal in a bad way but i think gamblers already know where to gamble and they support that gambling site no mattet what. Every gambling sites have their own problems, and gamblers also encounter that one. All they need to do is the consistency of a great system and after that more gamblers will do play on their site.

[imstillthebest]

Some may try to ruin any gambling sites that is blocking their road and for me its legal in a bad way but i think gamblers already know where to gamble and they support that gambling site no mattet what. Every gambling sites have their own problems, and gamblers also encounter that one. All they need to do is the consistency of a great system and after that more gamblers will do play on their site.

Some may try to ruin any gambling sites that is blocking their road and for me its legal in a bad way

Legal in a bad way ?  You can use the word illegal instead but that is not illegal or wrong to make a competition to someone else  . its a business and anyone can do whatever they want to but at the end , people will still be the one to choose if what will they prefer   . whats wrong is if they will make false claim about their competitor  .

Every gambling sites have their own problems, and gamblers also encounter that one.

Having a problem is normal and all sites do also experienced it but the problem should be fix asap . if not , the gambling site will loose its costumers .

Overall , bad faith in gambling ecosystem are not real  because gambling is not really bad  . 

[Cacingkemi]

Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable? And who protects these companies if reputation is gold in the crypto world??

Customer or also called CS is always justified, not like that if there is evidence it will be followed up and will likely lose the player.However if there are no errors, then IMO its only a communication error that does't understand each other.
Golden reputation in the crypto world that protects them is players, of course not, the experience I know they have security for which might be very strong.

[posi]

Some may try to ruin any gambling sites that is blocking their road and for me its legal in a bad way but i think gamblers already know where to gamble and they support that gambling site no mattet what. Every gambling sites have their own problems, and gamblers also encounter that one. All they need to do is the consistency of a great system and after that more gamblers will do play on their site.

Legal in a bad way ?  You can use the word illegal instead but that is not illegal or wrong to make a competition to someone else  . its a business and anyone can do whatever they want to but at the end , people will still be the one to choose if what will they prefer   . whats wrong is if they will make false claim about their competitor  .

Every gambling sites have their own problems, and gamblers also encounter that one.

I totally opposed the statement made by Crzy and I dont think any gambling site have to ruin the reputation of it fellow gambling site just because they are competitors. However, there are best we in doing things rather than doing something bad to other which seems to be blocking their roads cause how a gambling site treat their customers/players is what will determine their visitor/players.

Meanwhile, every companies, organizations or project will always have the problem of their own which I believed was part of their duties the team involving because every leader must be a problem solver.

[MFahad]

Actually in every business we have a dark site and a positive site, then it is not only in gambling we see it. Gambling is highlight because in most of the countries gambling is illegal that's why people see it with a deep eyes.
But now gambling become a very popular business , so in my view, it is a good sign of our ecosystem.  

[BossMacko]

Ever since crypto gambling came alive, many of us have enjoyed these services without the need of know your customer aka KYC and avoided any territorial restrictions that come with most of our fiat casino and sports books. But what am really interested to learn about this industry...is do we have users, shills or competitors that are in it to give false reviews or generally bad press in the name of discrediting these companies?? I don't know about you guys but I have seen many crypto companies being put on the chopping board even when we customer's/players are in the wrong but still the company has to take the bullet and put it's reputation on the line....Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable? And who protects these companies if reputation is gold in the crypto world??

Of course, there are competitors that use false news/reviews, shills just to make the other company fall or delay to  deliver there services.. It happened before in some exchanges or forums they are getting DDOS where they are flooding the competitor server thus make them not accessible or transactions are lagging or delayed and more. So you're always gonna see Shills, false news /reviews.

[Natalim]

Customer is always right is suppose to be the general rule in the business, but not in gambling.
We the gamblers or the customers has to follow the terms and condition of the gambling sites, or else we will have a problem with our winning.
One thing I noticed, when depositing money even if you violate their rules, there is no problem, the problem only comes out when you win and try to cash out.

[Juggy777]

Customer is always right is suppose to be the general rule in the business, but not in gambling.
We the gamblers or the customers has to follow the terms and condition of the gambling sites, or else we will have a problem with our winning.
One thing I noticed, when depositing money even if you violate their rules, there is no problem, the problem only comes out when you win and try to cash out.

Hey when you speak about crypto gambling based casinos one should look at the reviews with a pinch of salt, as many of them are of the gamblers who have lost their money and now want a refund. I understand your point that issues don’t happen when you deposit, but if issues happen during withdrawal then it could be because of creating duplicate accounts, or violation of their rules. However if you feel you’re being conned you can always open a scam accusation thread here, in most cases you should get your issue solved.

[Natalim]

Customer is always right is suppose to be the general rule in the business, but not in gambling.
We the gamblers or the customers has to follow the terms and condition of the gambling sites, or else we will have a problem with our winning.
One thing I noticed, when depositing money even if you violate their rules, there is no problem, the problem only comes out when you win and try to cash out.

Hey when you speak about crypto gambling based casinos one should look at the reviews with a pinch of salt, as many of them are of the gamblers who have lost their money and now want a refund. I understand your point that issues don’t happen when you deposit, but if issues happen during withdrawal then it could be because of creating duplicate accounts, or violation of their rules. However if you feel you’re being conned you can always open a scam accusation thread here, in most cases you should get your issue solved.

The problem is not all gambling sites are making their presence felt in this community, so the DT members or the community would not be able to help.
I believe that although good sites has some hidden shadiness inside, so that is already part of the risk of being a gambler.

[logicgate]

Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable? And who protects these companies if reputation is gold in the crypto world??

Customer or also called CS is always justified, not like that if there is evidence it will be followed up and will likely lose the player.However if there are no errors, then IMO its only a communication error that does't understand each other.
Golden reputation in the crypto world that protects them is players, of course not, the experience I know they have security for which might be very strong.

  Even if there are such faults that you have mentioned but I still have faith in gambling as this is modern age with time we will see more protection for the gamblers, since the crypto as since early ages when the crypto gambling came into being people are working and investing in gambling, but still some people gambles for another intentions which leads to wrong result I personally really like and enjoying gambling.

[Oilacris]

Customer is always right is suppose to be the general rule in the business, but not in gambling.
We the gamblers or the customers has to follow the terms and condition of the gambling sites, or else we will have a problem with our winning.
One thing I noticed, when depositing money even if you violate their rules, there is no problem, the problem only comes out when you win and try to cash out.

Hey when you speak about crypto gambling based casinos one should look at the reviews with a pinch of salt, as many of them are of the gamblers who have lost their money and now want a refund. I understand your point that issues don’t happen when you deposit, but if issues happen during withdrawal then it could be because of creating duplicate accounts, or violation of their rules. However if you feel you’re being conned you can always open a scam accusation thread here, in most cases you should get your issue solved.

Not all the time for it to be resolved if you have posted into that section.It might give out some noise but not a guarantee that the gambling site
you have played on isnt a scam.If it is then say goodbye to your funds but eventually why would play into new shady gambling site on the first place?
You can easily spot it out or having just that first impressions when you do tend to play.

[prtty2gal2]

I dont think any gambling site have to ruin the reputation of it fellow gambling site just because they are competitors. However, there are best we in doing things rather than doing something bad to other which seems to be blocking their roads cause how a gambling site treat their customers/players is what will determine their visitor/players.

Meanwhile, every companies, organizations or project will always have the problem of their own which I believed was part of their duties the team involving because every leader must be a problem solver.

Well, I think there is no concept of faith either good or bad in gambling. It is way too absurd to think that in a capitalist world and in a world where everyone quest to maximize their profits, faith would be of any use. Of course, in the gambling ecosystem, every company or website or house plays you.

You are the one with the lowest advantages and chances of winning. So, bear in mind to question everything you come across in the world of gambling and that may end up in something which will definitely help you to get rid off your problems which may be just quitting gambling for life time. Yes, instead of struggling for each and every aspects, it would be much better to give up once and then lead a happier life ever after.

[akram143]

The trust is the only thing that keep everything under normal conditions in gambling without any type of Faith with the gambling field it will not run properly without the help of the investors and the people who are trusting it as like money making way and more importantly the investors are the developers here to develop gambling every time.

[futile-resistance]

There is a big competition in the market and the gambling industry is very profitable.

Some competitors played a dirty way in order to discredit other gambling sites and to attract the gamblers to join in their site.
I don't see it as a new thing in crypto, the fact that it's not regulated, or appropriate to say that most gambling sites has no license, they can play it the way they want without restriction.

It's their competition but this benefits the gamblers in the general view.

I think that no gambling website is honest with its users.
Every one is here for the money and this is what they do. There is no 0% house edge on any of the gambling websites.

Having said that, it is very easily understandable that at least there is no good faith in the gambling ecosystem. The instruments you use during gambling are never in your favor in this industry though you pay for it. There is a mystery in their engineering.

[omonuyak]

Actually in every business we have a dark site and a positive site, then it is not only in gambling we see it. Gambling is highlight because in most of the countries gambling is illegal that's why people see it with a deep eyes.
But now gambling become a very popular business , so in my view, it is a good sign of our ecosystem.  

Gambling has really became a higher popular business since the inception of cryptocurrencies.  I have seeing many gambling business been open online and offline for the purpose of taking the advantage of this great opportunity that Cryptocoins has provided.

[Ailmand]

I guess that's just a part of the competition. That's the reason why gambling sites have to develop their sites continuously. There will always be negative reviews but only the site alone could prove if it's not true or if they're really honest and giving good services to their users.