Simplest bitcoin lottery, totally free, no registration required, real-time

[alisafidel58]

not divide the pot into 3 winners (as for now based on the site).

Why it should not be divided into 3 winners? It is usual in any lottery sites to have more than 1 winner. More winners = more chance to win something back, that's the logic.

You have quoted my post but not everything. You clearly didn't understand what I just said. It would be best if there was a specific amount to be won just like in freebitco.in lottery.

Where is the logic in your post?

[proTECH77]

How will your lottery site be fair when the player with the big bet amount have 100% assurance of winning and the one with a small amount have almost 0% winning  assurance, what is you algorithm do you use in doing your lottery calculation?

This can't be called the simplest bitcoin lottery because of the chances of winning on the gambling platform. Although it inspire my humble self because it require no registration before play. Also, like the price distribution of the winnings, kudos to the team behind this project, wish you success.

[nauane]

https://mybitcoinlottery.com is in beta, looking to see how much interest is generated from this type of lottery:

• Easy to play
• Simple format
• Totally free
• No membership, registration or login required
• Frequent drawings
• Multiple chances to win
• Results are published in real-time

We look forward to any feedback on how we can improve.

I am sorry to say that even spending about 15 mins on your lottery site, i am still unable to figure out how this lottery system works ?
As soon as 3 players deposits, we have a lottery result announced ? How can be it fair if a one person depoist more amount so he will automatically win ?

Also you need to add a help section on your site as nothing is clear on how to deposit etc. 

[avikz]

https://mybitcoinlottery.com is in beta, looking to see how much interest is generated from this type of lottery:

• Easy to play
• Simple format
• Totally free
• No membership, registration or login required
• Frequent drawings
• Multiple chances to win
• Results are published in real-time

We look forward to any feedback on how we can improve.

Your website isn't working in my mobile crome browser. While the home page is opening fine, as sion as I am trying to enter a lottery and clicking on Submit, it returns a server error. You may want to look at this!

[xvids]

Why is it that in your site, you have this phrase: "Again, this isn't real, we don't have a gaming license."

Care to explain?

And I think this looks like a faucet to me but with a simple twist of having a lottery.

Yeah it also reminds me of Freebitco.in .
And I also have a question to OP how can it be totally free?
And how much could we win?
I visited the website but there is no more info about the winning prize except that the 1st place would receive 80%

[panjul07]

not divide the pot into 3 winners (as for now based on the site).

Why it should not be divided into 3 winners? It is usual in any lottery sites to have more than 1 winner. More winners = more chance to win something back, that's the logic.

You have quoted my post but not everything. You clearly didn't understand what I just said. It would be best if there was a specific amount to be won just like in freebitco.in lottery.

Where is the logic in your post?

And you do not even understand how freebitcoin lotteries works. There is no specific amount to be won in freebitco.in as the prize is progressive depends on how many tickets are sold/earned.
Even worst, the lottery on this site works the same. The prize depends on how many satoshis sent to the pool. It shows that you dont understand about lottery at all.

[nakamura12]

There is no fixed amount of bitcoin/satoshi that the winner can get after winning the lottery that is why when you go to the site you'll fill up your bitcoin address and how many satoshi you'll bet then that satoshi will be added to the prize pool as the reward for the winner but you can see/check how much is the reward added in all before the winner will be drawn. This is what caught my attention same as you guys "Again, this isn't real, we don't have a gaming license." in which I know lottery is also a game.

[rewardu]

I'm looking forward to win in this bitcoin lottery thing. Since it's free and on beta more and more prizes waiting for us. I just visited the site and there is somebody with a 99% win rate.

Yes, someone had bet 10000 satoshi while another player bet only 10 satoshi.  The 3rd player bet 0 satoshi and thus had a 0% chance of winning.  Check out game results for Game ID 9b7a8a6e-a83e-4dc6-a2f9-837ac110e1c9

Just tried to put some random inputs and it directed me to a lot of codes that are not clear to me. Probably, that's one of the things you need to fix. Try to add at least just a pop up message for that like, "invalid bitcoin address."

I've done some better validations, including "Invalid Bitcoin address" and Satoshi must be >0.

Thank you very much for your feedback!

[rewardu]

I see that the site is just like a test run or a concept for lottery. I guess this would be good if the lottery is provably fair. It might catch a lot of gamblers attention if you will be able to run the web site without problem, such as deposits and withdrawals.

Hi there - thanks for your response.  Yes, at this point the website is only a proof of concept.  It could easily be made live with real transactions if it turns out there is enough interest in the simplicity of the concept.  Currently the randomization is just using the .net random function, but if I go live I would make it provably fair with hash matching before and after each transaction.  Thanks again!  Yours and everyone's feedback is very helpful!

[AmoreJaz]

Lately someone here had an idea of 0% house edge dice and was asking for donation, now this one is asking for donation. OP better to set house edge over 0% to get some profit, no one will donate to casino/lottery and to my mind it's even unethical when casino/lottery asks for it.
Now what can we say about demand: I think it's very, very low because there were similar ideas with enough funds but non of them succeed, well, overally demand is very low and can say the same about trust.

lets face the reality here. a casino or lottery business asking for donation from the community? epic fail!
im not judging them but a new gambling site should have their own money to start with. how can the gamblers trust their financial side?
also the dev might want to improve his site. we are not looking for a grandeur entrance but at least an appealing website...

[rewardu]

https://mybitcoinlottery.com is in beta, looking to see how much interest is generated from this type of lottery:

Firstly welcome to the gambling industry
Secondly, if you ask about how much the interest of such lottery game then I can say that the interest is not that much here. There are many other similar lotteries since few years ago but no one can survive due to lack of interest.
Third, your site is so simple which is good but also a bit not attractive to catch gambler's eyes.
Last but not least, Regarding the prize distribution of your lottery based on the Finished games. The total prize for 3 winners is exactly the same as the total prizepool. Does it mean that you do not take any fees when it will be live?

Hello - thanks for your warm welcome.  It may be true that people won't have interest in this lottery, so I'm glad to get the feedback early on before dumping a lot of cash into the project.  If nothing else, I'm enjoying the experience.  If it would go live, I would beautify the site to attract players, but I am really going for absolute simplicity, transparency and frequency of the rounds (the rounds are played as fast as the players want to play them).

You are correct to intuit that the total prize for 3 winners is exactly the same as the total prize pool, which means there are no fees.  My vision is that this lottery is totally free to play, and players are not playing against the house, they are simply playing each other.  I do not want to store any PII of the players, and I do not want to create a barrier to entry by charging a fee to play.  The idea is to generate traffic by being the simplest and barrier free lottery available.

If anything I may consider creating a charity pot, and direct a small % (1%?) of each game to give to a charity (or charities), also via Bitcoin transactions that would be public and traceable.

[rammy2k2]

Hi, by what are you saying there, thats not probability fair at all, can you please elaborate a little more how is that calculated, and most of all, how can we check that too ?
Thank you

[rewardu]

You will have a hard time making this lottery site of your to gain gamblers or bettors. I still don't understand how much I could actually win if I bet. There should be a specific amount that can be won by bettors and not divide the pot into 3 winners (as for now based on the site).

Hello - thank you for your feedback and hopefully I can answer your question here.

It is currently set to 3 entries per round producing 3 winners taking 80/15/5 of the entire pot (ultimately producing a single winner and essentially two losers).  It could be 5 entries per round, 100 entries per round or 1000 entries per round.  Why must the lottery pay out a specific amount?  Players can buy multiple tickets in most lotteries, which increases the pot and increases their probability of winning.  Think of setting your own satoshi amount as buying multiple tickets to acheive the same effect.

[rewardu]

How will your lottery site be fair when the player with the big bet amount have 100% assurance of winning and the one with a small amount have almost 0% winning  assurance, what is you algorithm do you use in doing your lottery calculation?

Hello and thank you for your reply.  I don't see it differently than any lottery where players may purchase an unlimited amount of tickets.  Imagine you play a lottery, and buy 1 ticket.  Your friend also buys 1 ticket.  Finally a third player decides to play and purchases 998 tickets.  Wouldn't it be fair that his odds of winning are 99.8% while yours and your friends' odds are 0.1% each?  Doesn't buying multiple tickets in any lottery increase your odds of winning?

If you're asking how we could keep people from playing that way, there could be multiple versions of the lottery with different entry limits set, and different numbers of entries that would make a round.  I'm certainly open to suggestions.

[rewardu]

You will have a hard time making this lottery site of your to gain gamblers or bettors. I still don't understand how much I could actually win if I bet. There should be a specific amount that can be won by bettors and not divide the pot into 3 winners (as for now based on the site).

Its okay if he's going to find it hard to make his lottery into fame. As he said, this is just a test and likely a survey on how gamblers are going to be interested with the lottery that he has created. OP is playing safe before running his own lottery business, he needs verification from the community and will base the result of it from the feedbacks that he will receive from the people who will try it out. I'll try it out OP and would probably give my opinion about your site.

Thank you livingfree.  You've got it exactly right.  I appreciate your feedback.

[rewardu]

Yeah, a simple lottery with a very simple website design too. I've seen this before but this thing would eventually fail for sure. Not to be soo negative but this would always be the destiny of these lottery kind of games.

Hello and thank you for your reply.  You're not being negative by providing this feedback, and it is much appreciated.  As the site is a proof of concept to learn if interest in this type of lottery could be created, one possible good outcome here is that if there is no interest I would not have wasted excessive time and money on something that won't fly.

[Bitinity]

Please kindly stop bumping your own thread multiple times in a row, you can reply those posts in single post. Bumping thread is allowed once per 24 hours, so you have just done something against the forum rules. Dont be offended, it is just a friendly advise. Your account might be banned if you do it regularly.

[wuvdoll]

It is always the first tickets that is hard for any lottery, I mean you are building something that has over a billion dollars in many countries so do not be really shocked by the fact that the market is sutured and you are gonna have hard time making people believe in this project and get customers.

The problem is, if you have 1000 people buying tickets than you are not gonna have hard time than finding more people on top of that, but finding that first 1000 customers gonna be the biggest challenge, if you could establish yourself as a lottery and get your name heard and everyone knows you than it will become super easy to continue the operation, just focus on that first customers that will buy the tickets and than promoting their wins and after that it is gonna be easy.

[rewardu]

Lately someone here had an idea of 0% house edge dice and was asking for donation, now this one is asking for donation. OP better to set house edge over 0% to get some profit, no one will donate to casino/lottery and to my mind it's even unethical when casino/lottery asks for it.
Now what can we say about demand: I think it's very, very low because there were similar ideas with enough funds but non of them succeed, well, overally demand is very low and can say the same about trust.

Hi and thanks for your feedback..  Out of curiosity, what do you consider unethical about a donate button being on a casino/lottery site?  I had not considered that.

You might be totally right about the demand (and I hear the same from others on the thread), which is why I made this a proof of concept before diving into major investments in time and money.  That's mainly why I started this thread, and I'm very thankful for the feedback so far.

[rewardu]

Please kindly stop bumping your own thread multiple times in a row, you can reply those posts in single post. Bumping thread is allowed once per 24 hours, so you have just done something against the forum rules. Dont be offended, it is just a friendly advise. Your account might be banned if you do it regularly.

My apologies - I did not realize that was a problem, and was only trying to reply to all the questions.  Here we go to answer multiple posts in a single thread.

How will your lottery site be fair when the player with the big bet amount have 100% assurance of winning and the one with a small amount have almost 0% winning  assurance, what is you algorithm do you use in doing your lottery calculation?

This can't be called the simplest bitcoin lottery because of the chances of winning on the gambling platform. Although it inspire my humble self because it require no registration before play. Also, like the price distribution of the winnings, kudos to the team behind this project, wish you success.

Hi Okala - How would it be fair that a player with a big bet has equal chance of winning than a player with a small bet?  I believe the probability of winning the lottery being tied to the size of the bet is as fair as it could possibly get.

Thanks for your feedback proTECH77.  No registration required is a big point, as I haven't seen many other sites that don't require registration.  If you don't like it, you're not tied to it via registration, so you can just go... and there's never any chance that anyone's identity could ever be compromised (as far as I can imagine).

But a bigger question... how could this lottery possibly be any simpler?  That's what I'm aiming for... to be the simplest.

I am sorry to say that even spending about 15 mins on your lottery site, i am still unable to figure out how this lottery system works ?
As soon as 3 players deposits, we have a lottery result announced ? How can be it fair if a one person depoist more amount so he will automatically win ?

Also you need to add a help section on your site as nothing is clear on how to deposit etc. 

Hi Nauane, no need to apologize, I'm just trying to get feedback as I'm sure the concept is nowhere near perfect. 

Yes, after 3 bets are made, that round will be over, and the next transaction will start the next round.  The game results are always listed at the bottom of the site.  Regarding your question if a player deposits more amounts, how is that any different from a traditional lottery where a player buys multiple tickets to increase his odds of winning?  He's putting more on the line than the other players, so he should have a better chance of winning.

I'm not sure how I could make the depositing of bitcoin into the lottery much more straight-forward.  There are two text boxes.  The first is your bitcoin address, and the second is how many Satoshi you want to bet.  Can I ask what is confusing about that?

Your website isn't working in my mobile crome browser. While the home page is opening fine, as sion as I am trying to enter a lottery and clicking on Submit, it returns a server error. You may want to look at this!

Thank you for letting me know, there was a bug during the entry submission that I've fixed if you care to give it another go!

Yeah it also reminds me of Freebitco.in .
And I also have a question to OP how can it be totally free?
And how much could we win?
I visited the website but there is no more info about the winning prize except that the 1st place would receive 80%

Hi xvids - thanks for your questions!  At the moment, I have literally no costs to maintain this site.  The cost would be a gaming license if I choose to make the site live.  If I did it I would find alternate revenue streams... place ads, sell t-shirts, develop another game that does have a house edge, whatever.  At the moment though, my vision is to have the simplest lottery possible, that is totally free to the players.

Regarding how much a player can win, the answer is based on how much the players bet.  If 3 players each bet 1 BTC, then the total pot would be 3 BTC and would be split (not evenly) among the 3 players.  I could make any variant of the game... there could versions that have 5 players, 10 players, 100 players per round.  There could be versions that have min/max bet limits so players can be sure their bets won't get poached by a high roller... there could be versions where the pot is split at different percentages (currently I have it set at 3 winners, split by 80/15/5%)... there are a lot of directions this type of game could go.



P.S. Thanks to Bitinity for the advice on not bumping the thread!