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April 07, 2019, 05:53:42 PM
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I don't think you most of you guys consider gambling as the right thing to put GODS in it. It just all depends on what religion you were and if you are not believing in any Gods then it's your choice. Why bother to question yourself again if you really not believe in God when everything you did was according to your choices?

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April 07, 2019, 05:57:02 PM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

Don't think that God could associated to our winnings when it come to the issue of gambling, because God hate gamblers. God will not participate either with the winning side or the losing side of gambling, He was clearly against greediness in the mosaic dispensation, even till now he still do. Although we all pray to God to win in gambling, but he's not the one that give even at the point of our winnings nor our looses. Own personal view.
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April 07, 2019, 06:00:32 PM
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Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.
Actually, there is no direct connection between God (religion in general) and gambling. It was just your mindset.

Aside from being atheist, you surely don't think of God every time you win because you are in your comfortable state. You think nothing but to enjoy since everything is all under your control. On the other hand, pious people out there definitely thank a lot in God for how blessed they are every time they meet their goals but since you are not one of them then for sure you only rely on your capabilities claiming that you are the superior of your own. But when losing streak comes, there's a point that you now feel frustrated, confused and can't explain what's the reason for those miserable events which later result to calling God. Your mind and body tend to call Him because you are already hopless and feel helplessr right that moment. You treat God as your last resort for solving such problems.

Anyway, don't worry mate, that is normal and expected from an imperfect individual like you (us) For sure that most of us think the same way
I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley
It depends on the way of thinking of a particualr gambler. If he has a clearer mind and always stick to positive vibes then it's not impossible for him to change into theism but if he is really self-centered then he might get worse.
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April 07, 2019, 06:31:30 PM
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Gambling doesn't have any specific role in making an atheist get turned to be theist. Gambling is just an fun zone or an entertainment system which has got the access to provide players with a earning on their wins based on the amount being risked. There are people who are superstitious with traditional gambling, but the same isn't effective with online gambling.

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April 07, 2019, 06:38:35 PM
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Maybe if that person experiences downfall and said to himself "I will believe in GOD if I win this round" I think there are plenty of people who are into that kind of stuff. I just don't know if they follow through though. It's just a way of "increasing" their chances in their minds. I can't say that it works because it's just chance.

That's pretty funny though but I believe there are a lot of people who did that at one point in their lives. But after winning or losing, they totally forgot what they promised.  Tongue

But to answer the topic presented, I think there are people who turned more on to be superstitious but not religious. They will find a good omen before playing. Though it's all in their minds, but it does good on their feelings.
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April 07, 2019, 07:07:03 PM
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Not really. If there is a God I am sure he is not searching for gamblers to help them win money. You said in your OP that you are an atheist but you prayed to God, that is a bit contradictory, asking help from someone or something you don't believe in and expecting to get help from the same.

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April 07, 2019, 07:22:56 PM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley
there is nothing like that the luck is only the factor of getting success in gambling otherwise Strategies and hard work will not pay you in gambling you need to be invested every time when you had luck you will get the success in gambling.
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April 07, 2019, 07:35:53 PM
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Being religious has nothing to do with Gambling yet no matter how hard you do pray the result would be still the same if you arent lucky
on a particular day on gambling you will definitely lose no matter what. No hardwork or prayers would work out and theres no certain factor
that do affects out on how you would be gonna lucky yet this do only comes randomly.

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April 07, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
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In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

I thought that atheists doesn't believe in God? yours is a special case IMO.
Truth is as a former very religious person that God can not help in your gambling.
To risk your money when you should be providing for your family is something God and all religions I believe look down on.
Unless of course it supports the religion

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April 07, 2019, 08:29:50 PM
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I don't think you most of you guys consider gambling as the right thing to put GODS in it. It just all depends on what religion you were and if you are not believing in any Gods then it's your choice. Why bother to question yourself again if you really not believe in God when everything you did was according to your choices?

Gambling clubbed with political and society doubts kind of question is this. We should not consider religious faiths and the belief relevant to that with the simple games.
If you are thinking about other may think we have this kind of idea and want to learn more about the improvisation to show.

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April 07, 2019, 10:39:59 PM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley


God is not a gambling God. I dont know if some countries has a God like that but i know God isnt favor on you gambling. If youre an atheist then im sure you are more prone to be angry with God whenever you lose your money on gambling. The probability is that you are more likely to lose than to win and God cant save you with that.

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April 08, 2019, 03:28:58 AM
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In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

I thought that atheists doesn't believe in God? yours is a special case IMO.

That's true, you might blame God if you run into a lost, you might blame him in case you lose a lot of money blaming him for letting him earlier on then lost a lot, so forget that ide, it's just a coincidence, we have a just God and will not lead you to something that can ruin you.
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April 08, 2019, 03:30:14 AM
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Maybe if that person experiences downfall and said to himself "I will believe in GOD if I win this round" I think there are plenty of people who are into that kind of stuff. I just don't know if they follow through though. It's just a way of "increasing" their chances in their minds. I can't say that it works because it's just chance.

That's pretty funny though but I believe there are a lot of people who did that at one point in their lives. But after winning or losing, they totally forgot what they promised.  Tongue

But to answer the topic presented, I think there are people who turned more on to be superstitious but not religious. They will find a good omen before playing. Though it's all in their minds, but it does good on their feelings.
People tend to be just to live on that moment but right after, it goes away like nothing ever happened and when the time comes to do it again, they are going to blame "GOD" for not winning on the second time and totally not believe anymore. I don't know why people tend to do that though.

It's not good to rely on something like that. Better check yourself if you personally do that, I did before but I've learned better.

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April 08, 2019, 03:41:46 AM
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You are not an atheist, you are a pretender. If you are an atheist then there should not be a concept of god in you. You should be blaming the house if you lose if you are really an atheist.

I do not think gambling will turn someone into a God believing person unless he believes that dice and cards are his gods.
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April 08, 2019, 06:39:55 AM
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Gambling is not related to any religion, gambling was a way for a human to enjoy life and they can play so many games inside gambling games. I don't think that the addiction person in gambling will fear or afraid to play gambling games. Maybe some people will stop to play gambling if they remember about GOD. But I don't have any idea about that.

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April 08, 2019, 11:26:40 PM
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I don't think so, but its depend on your belief, for western people gambling is all about luck, odds and probability for Eastern people gamble is about superstitious things, you will find a lot of them wearing amulet to gamble, for me gambling is only for fun and it's all about luck, praying to God won't help you win because every religion forbid gambling
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April 09, 2019, 12:53:54 AM
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I have no idea if it would turn an atheist to theist, as when you are winning you don't care about God. Only when you are losing big you want help from God.

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April 09, 2019, 01:52:12 AM
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I have no idea if it would turn an atheist to theist, as when you are winning you don't care about God. Only when you are losing big you want help from God.
Also, it can only be an expressions in mind when OP's losing or hoping for a good outcome, but nonetheless he won't mind about it, if he wins he will not glorify anyone gambling is a game of hope and luck, no one can change anything aside from possible hack inside the system.

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April 09, 2019, 03:55:02 AM
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You don't need to be a theist to be superstitious. Humans aren't exactly logical creatures and it shows the most when we're dealing with probability, or just numbers in general. That's why we often make bad decisions regarding money.

Also, if you are religious, you know asking God for help in gambling is pointless. You already know it's considered wasteful.

In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

I thought that atheists doesn't believe in God? yours is a special case IMO.
Truth is as a former very religious person that God can not help in your gambling.
To risk your money when you should be providing for your family is something God and all religions I believe look down on.
Unless of course it supports the religion


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April 09, 2019, 05:39:37 AM
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In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

I thought that atheists doesn't believe in God? yours is a special case IMO.
they will say oh my god !! When they lose or win. At least that reminds them to God. Lol.
You're right, there really isn't any correlation From gambling to religion. So don't expect you to get the guidance and blessings of God from gambling
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