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April 18, 2019, 06:14:57 PM
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I don't see any solid logic behind this argument. I am a religious person (Hindu), but I have a number of atheist friends. I would say that in case an atheist wins a big jackpot, then he is more likely to thank his skills than attributing it to the god. And one more thing... being a theist doesn't mean that one needs to be superstitious. And you can find superstitious people among the atheists as well.
You are talking about a case when they win, atheist win always attribute winnings to skills, and luck but they can be superstitious in a tensed situation especially in gambling, I think this is the whole context of this argument.

I also have a number of them as friends and I have witnesses how they can act contrary to their beliefs in gambling and I totally understand that this is due to tension not necessarily that they do not know what the belief is all about. Gambling is just a game that can make you go against your own belief during playing,  but it’s still just the game.
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April 18, 2019, 11:32:56 PM
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I guess I can see how someone might see a miracle in the growth of a plant or the wonder of space. But I am completely baffled at how one might reconcile religion and math.  Mathematics is pure logic and has no room for belief at all.  It is completely predictable and provably knowable. So if you think God is going to make one plus one equal three, then you don't know God or math. 
OP came to that point that he's desperate to ask God to give him luck.

And by chance, he was able to get what he wanted.

I think it was chance also. Heck, I don't believe in a God and yet she keeps rewarding my irreverence with money. 
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April 18, 2019, 11:46:35 PM
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I come from strong religious background so, I believe in God even before I started gambling. I don't think it has any influence in my gambling life anyway. Generally, most of the people shows an inclination to God when they have a breakdown. I guess this is the reason why you asked this question. So, its not about gambling its all about fear and stress as we encounter a problem.
Religious aspects have never been connected to gambling and as said people would only call for God when they do lose out but not literally for those people who are atheist will have always the chance to called out
God on that time.Its possible but i doubt that wont really be enough to consider to say that turning atheist into God-fearing creature.
That's true, and it's necessary that we should remain realistic in gambling as we are facing real risk.
A risk that could make us loss more than we can afford to lose, and we cannot call God on that to help us since it's us alone that are making decision in gambling. God is everywhere, for us who believe in God we are thankful if we win, but should not blame God if we loss since losing is possible.
For me,gambling is a total opposite from the will of God so if we lose or win from gambling,God has nothing to do with it.We are responsible for the things we do as much as we are responsible too for whatever circumstances it bring.I think gambling is not enough to make an atheist call for God.

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April 19, 2019, 04:26:16 PM
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it's necessary that we should remain realistic in gambling as we are facing real risk.
A risk that could make us loss more than we can afford to lose, and we cannot call God on that to help us since it's us alone that are making decision in gambling. God is everywhere, for us who believe in God we are thankful if we win, but should not blame God if we loss since losing is possible.
Staying realistic in gambling is easier said than done mate. I don’t think you have ever faced the tension of losing big amount of money in gambling, You will be so confused at that moment that you automatically become religious. I am just talking from experience. Like you have advised not to gamble what we cannot afford to loose, that’s actually a good advice and I everyone should always have this at the back of the mind. And if at all a gamer decides to take risk, he should be ready to bear the consequences that comes with

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April 19, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
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I don't think that being an aitheist or a believer connected in gambling. Yes, sometimes I tend to pray to God for me to win my gambles. But even so, I still don't win some games. You wanna know why? Because it is not connected to your religion.




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April 19, 2019, 06:31:10 PM
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The tension that comes with gambling can change anyone from religion if not careful.
Just imagine when playing with huge money and you see that money at stake, you will call any God available at that moment for help.

I remember one time I was at a gambling center and the guy beside me who was an atheist kept on screaming oh help me God to win this game, it was really serious and then at the end of the game he felt relieved. Asking him how he won, he claimed he was just lucky.

I think the tension has a way of making any gambler believing in whatever power that can help at that moment.
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April 19, 2019, 11:51:59 PM
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You are saying the fear of losing big money made you changed your mind and adopted a religion? What on earth did happen to you to change a sudden course like that. What was the religion you chose? I bet it was some religion who prohibits you from gambling. That way not only fear stops you from gambling again but also the fear of God. Things like that are possible somehow, the state that you are now proves that. Even criminals have changed for the good because of fear of losing their heads if they continue to do bad things. The difference only is that your's is money and them are their lives or for the sake of the family.
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April 20, 2019, 12:34:11 AM
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What's the difference between someone who prays in a Church, and someone who prays in a casino? The person who is praying in the casino really really means it Smiley To some extent that's true. I've asked God to help me win this last time so I can go home, or to help me recover my loss, etc. I've even seen an old lady gently rub and talk to the slot machine before each spin, hoping that the slot machine will make her win this time. It's very sad. I haven't set foot in a casino in over a year, and don't miss it one single bit.

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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.
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Luck is addional benefits but in gambling i am not believe in luck talent and skill with knowledge and strategy how get win.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.
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Actually if people not seltting up their selfcontrol for sure they going into addiction.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley


My general opinion is play gambling for just fun and relaxation do not ask to god about this because god hate gamble because in the bible they say gambling is the sin. But as people and they want to enjoy and use extra money theres nothing wrong with playing gambling i advise aleays set selfcontrol to avoid addiction.
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.
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Luck is addional benefits but in gambling i am not believe in luck talent and skill with knowledge and strategy how get win.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.
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Actually if people not setting up their selfcontrol for sure they going into addiction.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley


My general opinion is play gambling for just fun and relaxation do not ask to god about this because god hate gamble because in the bible they say gambling is the sin. But as people and they want to enjoy and use extra money theres nothing wrong with playing gambling i advise always set selfcontrol to avoid addiction.
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April 20, 2019, 02:25:43 PM
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I don't think that being an aitheist or a believer connected in gambling. Yes, sometimes I tend to pray to God for me to win my gambles. But even so, I still don't win some games. You wanna know why? Because it is not connected to your religion.

Those who are more attached to the religion will surely pray from the God that they win in gambling. If you have no attachment to religion then ofcourse you will not think in this way. In few religions Gambling is prohibited, so those people should avoid gambling in the first place.

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April 20, 2019, 04:05:19 PM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

How can that be our God do not want his people to become miserable if you become a compulsive gambler and your life's become miserable then you have God to blame, it's just pure luck because that forms of gambling you are playing relies on pure luck nothing more.


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April 20, 2019, 05:55:32 PM
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That's true, and it's necessary that we should remain realistic in gambling as we are facing real risk.
A risk that could make us loss more than we can afford to lose, and we cannot call God on that to help us since it's us alone that are making decision in gambling. God is everywhere, for us who believe in God we are thankful if we win, but should not blame God if we loss since losing is possible.

That would be stupid since you're immersing yourself into a game of probabilities. Can't really blame God for it because you know the conditions beforehand. Also according to what i know about the bible, God hates quick riches, they tend to be worse than poverty for the soul of a man. At least that's what it says, i don't have the knowledge of all things.

Being thankful can be pretty good for everyone, what if you help the poor with a bit of it and end up with a better relationship with God? Just for when a more important situation comes. And it has to be done constantly, if you do it by % it's a lot better.

People tend to look for God when everything else is lost and it shouldn't be that way. Being loyal goes a long way.
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April 21, 2019, 06:06:28 AM
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That's true, and it's necessary that we should remain realistic in gambling as we are facing real risk.
A risk that could make us loss more than we can afford to lose, and we cannot call God on that to help us since it's us alone that are making decision in gambling. God is everywhere, for us who believe in God we are thankful if we win, but should not blame God if we loss since losing is possible.

That would be stupid since you're immersing yourself into a game of probabilities. Can't really blame God for it because you know the conditions beforehand. Also according to what i know about the bible, God hates quick riches, they tend to be worse than poverty for the soul of a man. At least that's what it says, i don't have the knowledge of all things.

Being thankful can be pretty good for everyone, what if you help the poor with a bit of it and end up with a better relationship with God? Just for when a more important situation comes. And it has to be done constantly, if you do it by % it's a lot better.

People tend to look for God when everything else is lost and it shouldn't be that way. Being loyal goes a long way.

Well, this is strange that in case of a win people say that this is due to our good luck and our strategy but in case of a loss we put all the blame to god and religion. This should not be the case. You know the good and bad effects of gambling already.

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April 21, 2019, 07:48:37 AM
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

How can that be our God do not want his people to become miserable if you become a compulsive gambler and your life's become miserable then you have God to blame, it's just pure luck because that forms of gambling you are playing relies on pure luck nothing more.

Gambling is only depends upon luck and there is not such superstitious which may cause you win. Some people believe that wearing such color clothes or doing gambling at certain day of week or time may result in good luck and win. These are just false beliefs and have no real existence.
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April 21, 2019, 04:25:16 PM
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LOL, probably they can call their stupid god like casting bad words when gets loss or it could be also calling the real god when things gets good or bad. It will just depend on the scenario.

But, I do not really believe atheist has no God at all. They just deny the religion but no one could not feel a high beings with super powers that created the world and the human beings on this earth.
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April 21, 2019, 05:00:20 PM
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I don't think that being an aitheist or a believer connected in gambling. Yes, sometimes I tend to pray to God for me to win my gambles. But even so, I still don't win some games. You wanna know why? Because it is not connected to your religion.

Those who are more attached to the religion will surely pray from the God that they win in gambling. If you have no attachment to religion then ofcourse you will not think in this way. In few religions Gambling is prohibited, so those people should avoid gambling in the first place.
Yes. It is normal for everyone to call on what they believe in a tensed situation, this is the reason why many religious people would always call on God. No big deal with this, I even see it as one fun aspect in gambling. I laugh really hard, most of the times I see religious gamblers at my casino center and I try to relate what they are going through. Well, like you have rightly said, those whose religion is against gambling should not be in the game to avoid too many contradictions.
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April 21, 2019, 05:12:01 PM
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LOL, probably they can call their stupid god like casting bad words when gets loss or it could be also calling the real god when things gets good or bad. It will just depend on the scenario.

But, I do not really believe atheist has no God at all. They just deny the religion but no one could not feel a high beings with super powers that created the world and the human beings on this earth.
The first statement was right, it's all depends in the situations where you are in place, calling god to help you by doing a sinful act very funny, when you win you'll be thankful but if you lose then you will assume to yourself that there's no existence of such being and you will keep denying it inside of you, mentioning being atheist, maybe it's normal to say that you probably looking for someone to blame if things will not favors you.
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April 21, 2019, 06:01:20 PM
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What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. Smiley

I believe in God so I believe that God involves in everything that I do/get. In case of gambling no matter when I win or lose, I believe that God has his plan on it. I cant say it is a God's power, but all is planned by God already.
For those who believe in God they must also know that God does not approve gambling so if you still do and pray and you win, I don’t think God made it happen. It happened because of chance but no God’s will involved there, that is only in preparation for your incoming loses.
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April 21, 2019, 07:51:57 PM
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If you gamble for fun, that it should be ok with any religion.
Paying some money for entertainment is a good idea.
We in casinos believe that we provide entertainment for people. And we do charge for it.
Sometimes when you look at random outcomes it looks like you understand the nature of the game.
It looks like you have got the understanding how random works.
You feel the intuition that tells you what to do, you listen to the voice of God or Devil who knows.
Please be aware that all that is a part of entertainment casinos offer and charge for it.
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