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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics. I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much. Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God. Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit. What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. It's an odd way for an atheist to beleive in God thru gambling. I believe that it can make you believe in superstition because each gamblers have their own beliefs on whether how and what is lucky for them.
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April 22, 2019, 03:02:31 AM |
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It's an odd way for an atheist to beleive in God thru gambling. I believe that it can make you believe in superstition because each gamblers have their own beliefs on whether how and what is lucky for them.
Yeah! That was weird. but you know what? it really do happen sometimes even how degree of being an atheist you are (IMO). Actually I have an atheist friend, he is smart and only based his principles of reasoning on what science can offer to us; he possess the most common trait of an atheist. But one day, I was shocked when he told me to pray for him while we are walking on our way home, he ask for it because he is currently having a big problem with his academics due from being a lazy student. At first I laugh so hard after hearing those words coming from his lips and realized that devil's horns also break and may also replaced by a halo lol. if he, an atheist which only struggling with his academic problems, think of God somehow then what more for a gambler who is now losing everything he had or a gambler who is wishing for a life-changing bet (just for example).
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April 22, 2019, 04:49:44 AM |
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LOL, probably they can call their stupid god like casting bad words when gets loss or it could be also calling the real god when things gets good or bad. It will just depend on the scenario.
But, I do not really believe atheist has no God at all. They just deny the religion but no one could not feel a high beings with super powers that created the world and the human beings on this earth.
It’s quite natural for humans to believe in their god either they are happy or sad. But yes you are right, when we have bad times, we return ourselves to God because we know we are helpless and their materialistic world isn’t working for me. But if someone thinks gambling can turn him to God, well that is good, but unluckily it doesn’t happen mostly. Exceptional cases exists but this isn’t normal practice.
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April 22, 2019, 05:00:13 AM |
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Sometimes when I am bored I like to hop into the chat of the SofaScore app and just have a laugh at all the 'believers in God' there lol People come up with all kind of bullshit excuses for their losing sprees lol
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I Think you have the best opinion and it summarizes it all up. It’s very good to gamble and have all the fun from the game, But it is all shade of wrong to commit big money into gambling with the intention of getting it back and then start calling God for intervention in it, which we know that it is a game of luck and not a game of GOD. God has already created the game for fun but it is man that made is difficult by making it full of rush because of the introduction of huge money to play, greed is what makes us use big money to play something that we term as fun game.
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April 22, 2019, 03:35:10 PM |
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I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover.
Highly irrational, but every gambler I have ever known has some kind of superstitious belief like these and it has even become a cliche in movies that gamblers are a superstitious lot. But it's true. It isn't uncommon to reach out to a higher power in times of crisis, even if you had no previous spiritual inclinations. Seems to be part of human nature, embedded in our genes. But no I myself am not religious or even very spiritual and I don't have mystical or magical beliefs. Not even at the craps table.
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April 22, 2019, 05:05:00 PM |
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It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator. The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.
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April 25, 2019, 01:54:31 PM |
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LOL, probably they can call their stupid god like casting bad words when gets loss or it could be also calling the real god when things gets good or bad. It will just depend on the scenario.
But, I do not really believe atheist has no God at all. They just deny the religion but no one could not feel a high beings with super powers that created the world and the human beings on this earth.
It’s quite natural for humans to believe in their god either they are happy or sad. But yes you are right, when we have bad times, we return ourselves to God because we know we are helpless and their materialistic world isn’t working for me. But if someone thinks gambling can turn him to God, well that is good, but unluckily it doesn’t happen mostly. Exceptional cases exists but this isn’t normal practice. Which god are you referring to though? There are probably over a thousands gods out there and if any of those even exist, i doubt they'd give a damn about petty humans gambling lol. I know quite a few atheists and most of them are pretty religious before realizing a few things so i doubt that gambling would provide enough reason for them to go back.
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April 25, 2019, 03:39:17 PM |
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Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.
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April 25, 2019, 07:11:52 PM |
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Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.
Completely right, the supertitious belief was still there in gambler. Just like not giving tip while you are on a gamble because that will lead you from serious losses, that superstitious belief still alive and one of my relative telling me that way. Meanwhile, we can't conclude that superstitious belief will effectively since we are now in modern civilization.
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April 25, 2019, 11:31:10 PM |
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I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover.
Highly irrational, but every gambler I have ever known has some kind of superstitious belief like these and it has even become a cliche in movies that gamblers are a superstitious lot. But it's true. It isn't uncommon to reach out to a higher power in times of crisis, even if you had no previous spiritual inclinations. Seems to be part of human nature, embedded in our genes. But no I myself am not religious or even very spiritual and I don't have mystical or magical beliefs. Not even at the craps table. I admit i also have my superstitious beliefs when i gamble.And i think this tradition has started already even in the time of our ancestors.But i don't really believe that whenever you lose in gambling,God is there to make you win.Gambling is not accepted in His will and so gamblers are not even tolerated by God.
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It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator. The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.
In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious. But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not. And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them.
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April 26, 2019, 04:08:42 AM |
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It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator. The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.
In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious. But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not. And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them. Yes, that will be good advice for people who are seeing gambling from the religion side, and they should not involve in the gambling games. I don't think that an atheist could turn to theist and superstitious because sometimes an atheist makes a decision using knowledge. But we know that everything could happen and could change person to become someone else and only time will tell.
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April 26, 2019, 06:01:43 AM |
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It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator. The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.
In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious. But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not. And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them. I am 100% agree that God and religion should not be blamed for any loss in gambling. God is the one who is in control of everything. The superstitious beliefs are too old and i really shock that people living the current era still belief on things happenings on the basis of superstitious.
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April 26, 2019, 02:44:15 PM |
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No way! It's not possible anyway. Atheist is about disbelieving god existence, it's not about disbelieving a luck. Lucks and hopes are still around their lives. That means without god, they can still having luck and hoping the best for their life.
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April 26, 2019, 04:10:00 PM |
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Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.
One thing about the power of the mind is that whatever you set your mind heart is what goes with you, if a gambler believes in his heart that a pen will make him win, then it will happen, but naturally, God doesn’t have hand in such things, it is just a superstition, it is whatever they believe in their heart gets attracted to them. This what is called law of attraction, if the mindset is strong about a winning and the believe is their 100% that such gambler will be successful, then he will be, if he doubts his winning, it is obvious that he might not win, but gambling is just strictly a game of luck and luck comes to us when we believe it in our heart.
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April 26, 2019, 08:17:44 PM |
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Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.
One thing about the power of the mind is that whatever you set your mind heart is what goes with you, if a gambler believes in his heart that a pen will make him win, then it will happen, but naturally, God doesn’t have hand in such things, it is just a superstition, it is whatever they believe in their heart gets attracted to them. This what is called law of attraction, if the mindset is strong about a winning and the believe is their 100% that such gambler will be successful, then he will be, if he doubts his winning, it is obvious that he might not win, but gambling is just strictly a game of luck and luck comes to us when we believe it in our heart. There are really things which would really be possible to have that kind of positive thinking will really affect things on what he's doing but this is excluding gambling.God has really nothing to do with gambling yet all chances are random on each person and theres no thing that can affect to raise up chances anytime.So,its an impossible thing and making beliefs make a U-turn seems not too easy because losing in gambling wont really be that enough for them to be come theist and superstitious because they do lose.
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April 27, 2019, 04:03:53 PM |
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No way! It's not possible anyway. Atheist is about disbelieving god existence, it's not about disbelieving a luck. Lucks and hopes are still around their lives. That means without god, they can still having luck and hoping the best for their life.
Why do you think it’s not possible ? This is gambling, where impossibility can become possible. At difficult situations, there are so many atheists that can easily admit the supremacy of God. It’s possible they do it out of anxiety buy yes they do. I know they always trust their luck to win or believe most of their winnings are based on skill but, when the game is ongoing, they will know that an extra power is needed to win. I have experience with a lot of atheist both in gambling world and outside and, I know that it is possible because I have seen instances where they call on God for help in times of needs.
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April 27, 2019, 07:15:01 PM |
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In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious. But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not. And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them.
Yes, that will be good advice for people who are seeing gambling from the religion side, and they should not involve in the gambling games. I don't think that an atheist could turn to theist and superstitious because sometimes an atheist makes a decision using knowledge. But we know that everything could happen and could change person to become someone else and only time will tell. Yes, the very best advice for religious people would be for them, to stay off gambling completely. The game is not meant for religious people and I don’t even think there is any religion that supports gambling. If any atheist decides to become theist or becomes superstitious that his personality and it has nothing to do with the game or religion. I’ve been gambling for quit a long time, I’ve won little and I’ve lost even more and if there is anyone whom the game could change, am sure it would have been me but I chose to remain who I am.
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April 28, 2019, 06:32:24 AM |
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It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator. The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.
It will depend on the individual. One could believe in God especially if there are things that happen like a miracle or an unexpected things that favored to that individual. This might change their beliefs that there were really a superhuman being that created the universe. A simple question were still difficult to answer until now and that is " How Universe Exist, What is the reason why it exist, who made the universe and etc. Science could still not prove this and put their studies into theory and nothing else.
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