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Gambling is in many senses against the religious teachings as here people try to gain more what is not earned by themselves and in meantime lose what they have. As people lose much, they start to pray and lose more. So they'll have less faith on god but still believes they have chances to win and turns into superstitions.
It is true, when we do start of losing in gambling then we start to pray even we forget it that in many religious gambling is not allow to play it, but we don't care about it and still we do pray, sometime i laugh on it, but it is also funny just like our gambling give us fun. Yes, that is what happened but for me, I have never mixed up the affairs of religion, God or anything else in gambling, because when I gamble it is entirely pure luck that becomes a hope and when I get a loss, then it is a bad luck for me and indeed, in gambling we should not associate religion because it is something different and very sensitive.
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June 21, 2019, 11:15:09 AM |
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Isn't an atheist someone who believes in whatever he sees fit?
Since he doesn't belive in a God, he'll act in any way he believes will benefit him, including showing "fake belief" to a God. I I wouldn't consider such behavior an act of "becoming theist".
Good point, they can do anything they've like since there's nothing impossible for people who wanted to win, they will believe if things will give them opportunities and even without knowing anything they will praise such if it's possible to provide some winnings.
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I am not sure how here thesis and athesis things we can discuss in the name of gambling. mostly this kind of questions has been raised in the beginners and help or political and society child boards. Whatever matter for every gamblers at least one time lucky jackpot everyone wishes. If they wish definitely it will change the mentality.
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June 21, 2019, 06:14:09 PM |
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Gambling is in many senses against the religious teachings as here people try to gain more what is not earned by themselves and in meantime lose what they have. As people lose much, they start to pray and lose more. So they'll have less faith on god but still believes they have chances to win and turns into superstitions.
I think gambling takes us away from religion. When people lose , they blame to god and they think that there prayers may not be fulfilled. Although gambling has nothing to do with religion. Also I think the more the person is religious, he would stay away from gambling.
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June 24, 2019, 10:26:31 AM |
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics. I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much. Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God. Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit. What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Nah I don't think so… no matter what an atheist experience in gambling, he's still going to say it's all about luck. The thing is that whenever God just wants you to change and you must follow his ways, he just let things that would bring trust into you to come your way. And when those things happen, you wouldn't have to think twice before you start believing in God. So there's nothing like gambling changing an atheist, in your case, I'd say that God just wants you to start believing in him and doesn't want you to perish.
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June 24, 2019, 06:53:48 PM |
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In my opinion, superstitions have never been a clear feature of a believer, atheists are always in a hurry to confront. The fact is that for a believer who really worships his God, any bad habits are a sin, among which there is excitement.
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June 24, 2019, 08:43:53 PM |
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In my opinion, superstitions have never been a clear feature of a believer, atheists are always in a hurry to confront. The fact is that for a believer who really worships his God, any bad habits are a sin, among which there is excitement.
And to add with this, those gamblers who suddenly turned to being religious or superstitious are only faking it and not doing it by heart. They are only fooling themselves believing that they will be lucky when they suddenly recite all the prayers that they know of just to win the game. So nope, I don't believe such gambler can be a religious one because the truth is, it is against the teachings of whatever his religion he is into.
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics. I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much. Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God. Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit. What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It doesn't seem very logical and rational. Why he would do that? If he wants you to earn big money, he just need to send you a big amount of money in your bank account or in your bitcoin wallet. No need for him to help you cheating casino games LOL ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) But maybe you are seeing that as tipping for your prayers?
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August 05, 2019, 06:42:03 PM |
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Gambling is in many senses against the religious teachings as here people try to gain more what is not earned by themselves and in meantime lose what they have. As people lose much, they start to pray and lose more. So they'll have less faith on god but still believes they have chances to win and turns into superstitions.
Religions is indeed against gambling but what Op is asking about the superstition when some gamblers use to go in churches to pray for them before going to gambling places I heard that some cockfight's enthusiasts specially those who handles the chickens are believing in some superstition like rubbing their handkerchief to the saints before the fight .thats why OP asked that an atheist can be a theist because of this
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August 05, 2019, 10:56:14 PM |
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics. I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much. Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God. Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit. What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It doesn't seem very logical and rational. Why he would do that? If he wants you to earn big money, he just need to send you a big amount of money in your bank account or in your bitcoin wallet. No need for him to help you cheating casino games LOL ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) But maybe you are seeing that as tipping for your prayers? Maybe HE sends the luck to him so he can win that games. Maybe we can say that because HE wants to see what will he do with the money if he wins the game. With winning the game, HE wants to test him, but many of us become greedy when we can win the game, and we want bigger money, so we continue to play. But I don't think that he will believe GOD if he can win in many times
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August 06, 2019, 04:01:35 AM |
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics. I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much. Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God. Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit. What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) For me, it depends on the level of your faith or belief, especially there are so many religions that have a different point of view. I'm a theist and in our religion, God, would not help you in gambling but might take you to the path of the gambling world to test you or give the answer to your prayers. But like I said it depend on the person, (we all have our own perspective and desires). Gambling is very tricky must of the gamble believe in luck, and some other gamblers don't believe in luck they just prefer to the scientific explanations.
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August 06, 2019, 01:14:17 PM |
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics. I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much. Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God. Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit. What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It doesn't seem very logical and rational. Why he would do that? If he wants you to earn big money, he just need to send you a big amount of money in your bank account or in your bitcoin wallet. No need for him to help you cheating casino games LOL ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) But maybe you are seeing that as tipping for your prayers? Maybe HE sends the luck to him so he can win that games. Maybe we can say that because HE wants to see what will he do with the money if he wins the game. With winning the game, HE wants to test him, but many of us become greedy when we can win the game, and we want bigger money, so we continue to play. But I don't think that he will believe GOD if he can win in many times God has nothing to do with gambling. Why would he want gamblers to win where in fact gambling is considered as a sin. He surely do not want to encourage more people to gamble and end up losing. So i don't believe that gambling can turn an atheist into a theist because God is definitely against it. If ever you win in gambling,that's pure luck and strategies you applied in gambling. That is just for an example, but you are right. GOD doesn't like human make a sin, but that will up to the human. Atheist or not, humans make their own decision about playing gambling and like what you say, that will be luck and strategies that will help human to win the game. But if somehow, we cannot win, then we can consider that the luck is not beside us.
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics. I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much. Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God. Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit. What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It doesn't seem very logical and rational. Why he would do that? If he wants you to earn big money, he just need to send you a big amount of money in your bank account or in your bitcoin wallet. No need for him to help you cheating casino games LOL ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) But maybe you are seeing that as tipping for your prayers? Maybe HE sends the luck to him so he can win that games. Maybe we can say that because HE wants to see what will he do with the money if he wins the game. With winning the game, HE wants to test him, but many of us become greedy when we can win the game, and we want bigger money, so we continue to play. But I don't think that he will believe GOD if he can win in many times God has nothing to do with gambling. Why would he want gamblers to win where in fact gambling is considered as a sin. He surely do not want to encourage more people to gamble and end up losing. So i don't believe that gambling can turn an atheist into a theist because God is definitely against it. If ever you win in gambling,that's pure luck and strategies you applied in gambling. That is just for an example, but you are right. GOD doesn't like human make a sin, but that will up to the human. Atheist or not, humans make their own decision about playing gambling and like what you say, that will be luck and strategies that will help human to win the game. But if somehow, we cannot win, then we can consider that the luck is not beside us. Lol. Atheists are atheists because they don't believe in anything unnatural. If it can't be proven by actual evidence, it's not true. What makes you think anything can make an atheist believe in god? Skeptics will be skeptics until their criteria for what's believable can be met. Failure in gambling is generally due to bad luck or bad money management. If they're skeptic enough to question the existence of god, im sure as hell they won't turn about because of bad luck.
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What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There are various ways God calls someone to believe in Him, from a murderer to being a priest, a prostitute becoming a teacher of the scriptures, and finally, a gambling addict becomes a more religious person like your case. ps: I don't think betting or gambling is a sin, that makes betting like sin is the effect of betting like theft or fraud from someone who wants to make a bet. cmiiw
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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics. I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much. Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God. Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit. What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I believe they may become superstitious but they won't blame for their descision and luck to god. I'd like to call myself a theist but I don't think god would be caring about making someone win or lose. God gotta have more serious stuff to look into. Gambling, talking about the legit online gambling is just probability. you need luck mostly.
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What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win?
No, I don't believe that some supernatural power will help me win a gambling game. I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It has, some gambler find solace in the teachings of god when rock bottom and nowhere else to lean on. I personally have seen someone became religious after losing everything to gambling (property,family,friends etc..). even though I am not religious my self I am glad that religion can sometime help a person pick themselves up and start again.
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"choice of odds" in mathematics.
do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win?
Maths is your own god and saviour in this situation. Religion is a delusion when people only seek it out begging favour from some greater power, that fallacy in human thought does go back 10,000 years or more but why would a great being ever seek to help us for such petty requests. The world has a nature and detail to it on every consideration even bets on a roulette wheel but any God can only help those would work towards a solution and ask for guidance. There is no greater help beyond how people can be great in of themselves, dont beg for anything as its not the path to riches that I've ever seen. Gratitude is a great thing to respect, respect every bit of good luck you have in life and you may find more ? Thats the extent of religion I find and the most true I know of.
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Gambling is in many senses against the religious teachings as here people try to gain more what is not earned by themselves and in meantime lose what they have. As people lose much, they start to pray and lose more. So they'll have less faith on god but still believes they have chances to win and turns into superstitions.
I think most of the religion, gambling is prohibited so if you belong to that religion, you cannot pray to win in gambling as you are already doing sin if you are playing gambling. For the rest of the people, who do not believe in the religion, they do not think god exists so they never pray.
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Gambling is in many senses against the religious teachings as here people try to gain more what is not earned by themselves and in meantime lose what they have. As people lose much, they start to pray and lose more. So they'll have less faith on god but still believes they have chances to win and turns into superstitions.
I think most of the religion, gambling is prohibited so if you belong to that religion, you cannot pray to win in gambling as you are already doing sin if you are playing gambling. For the rest of the people, who do not believe in the religion, they do not think god exists so they never pray. Yes, that will not change their perception about GOD because they never believe in GOD. They only think that on that day, they are very lucky so they can win the games. I think if we talk outside of gambling, maybe that person can turn from an atheist into theist because that will touch his feeling and emotion about life. In gambling, we use different feeling and emotion, and that is not related to GOD. But if that person can think for a while about GOD in the gambling place, and he is aware that all of the things he did in the gambling is because of his luck and that luck will come from GOD, maybe he can realize that everything in his life is related to the GOD.
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What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win?
No, I don't believe that some supernatural power will help me win a gambling game. I agree with this. God doesn't want us to gamble so He won't support or help anyone in this. For me it's just luck. Luck is considered a skill, so it's up to the person whether he can win or not in a gambling game. So don't include God in it. I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It has, some gambler find solace in the teachings of god when rock bottom and nowhere else to lean on. I personally have seen someone became religious after losing everything to gambling (property,family,friends etc..). even though I am not religious my self I am glad that religion can sometime help a person pick themselves up and start again. Yes, it depends on the situation. When a gambler reach the rock bottom and see that he is always losing, he will tend to change his perspective in life and there's a possibility that He will turn to God, believe in Him, pray that God will change his perspective, and to start living a better life away from his gambling addiction.
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