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April 12, 2019, 11:32:14 AM
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I think it's a mistake to assume everything has to be decentralized. Bitcoin itself is decentralized, and Binance is known to be a centralized exchange with people behind it. If CZ wants to delist Faketoshi, so be it. People can collect that shitcoin somewhere else. Not everything has to be decentralized.

I'm willing to bet that nobody said the same when PayPal blocked WikiLeaks..
If I remember correctly that was commented as threats, abuse, illegal, etc etc..
Now, it's a free market and everybody should do what they want.

Although I hope it won't happen let's see your attitude on a major bank bans again crypto purchases.
Will you still keep this everyone is free to do what they want attitude?

Paypal banning Wikileaks is what brought attention to bitcoin as decentralized money. It's like the yin and yang - this is a part of the bitcoin story.

Paypal has every right to ban whoever they want, and they do. So people go to bitcoin.

Bitcoin and Paypal are not the same.
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April 12, 2019, 12:49:24 PM
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I hope they just delist bitcoin sv. I mean, what is bitcoin sv? What they are worth for? Just some rich guys playground nothing more.

I wonder, can they recover from delisting on binance.

CZ probably tweeted that to put a stop C. Wright shenanigans around the Bitcoin community.  What are they worth for? nothing, we all know that its just another altcoin waiting to be pump by the people behind. That case won't go further, everyone knows that he is fake as nowhere is he near the 'classy' Satoshi. Did he really think that someone will take a bite on his reward and unravel someone in crypto?


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April 12, 2019, 01:21:49 PM
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Here we go again. Another drama by Craig Wright. I think this time, I will sit in the audience and watch the drama until it ends.
I wonder what will CZ did after this drama end Grin
But I hope that it's the time for Craig Wright to end of his drama and someone must stop him from being a controversial person in the cryptocurrency world.

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April 12, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
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Craig Wright has sent a legal letter to Hodlonaut, the creator of the Lightning Torch, accusing him of libel for referring to Wright as a "fraud."

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/craig-wright-threatens-libel-suit-letter-bitcoiner-demands-apology/

As a public figure, this lawsuit would be extraordinarily difficult to win in the United States, but it could be filed in the UK, where libel cases are somewhat easier to win, though still difficult.


continuous drama from Craig Wright
I think he just wants to find the stage to gain popularity, that's all.
and regarding this latest issue, I can't say because I don't know the legal rules in the UK and America. so this is just a stage for jokes
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April 12, 2019, 03:09:30 PM
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Good to share such information about the threaten lawsuit against Bitcoiner by Craig Wright. We all know who Craig is, and what he can do in person, but based on the public figure he is, i strongly believe that if he institute the lawsuit action against the Bitcoiner, he will win the case and sue them for potential damage. Let watch what happen at the end of the story.
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April 12, 2019, 03:50:25 PM
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I'm willing to bet that nobody said the same when PayPal blocked WikiLeaks..
If I remember correctly that was commented as threats, abuse, illegal, etc etc..
Now, it's a free market and everybody should do what they want.

Although I hope it won't happen let's see your attitude on a major bank bans again crypto purchases.
Will you still keep this everyone is free to do what they want attitude?

Paypal banning Wikileaks is what brought attention to bitcoin as decentralized money. It's like the yin and yang - this is a part of the bitcoin story.
Paypal has every right to ban whoever they want, and they do. So people go to bitcoin.
Bitcoin and Paypal are not the same.

Don't you think that rather than posting 46 posts in a single day !!!! you should actually take a look at what you're posting and how you're answering questions?
Don't try to fake conversation with me by doing your usual 3 lines crap.
If you can't understand what I'm asking, do some research, if you don't know what to answer nobody is forcing you to do so,


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April 12, 2019, 04:21:39 PM
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Hmm, I don't like this at all.
Of course, CW is a fraud and probably he will not get anywhere with his lawsuit but were opening Pandora's box here.

Are we going to use exchanges to threaten people?
How the *** is this different from Paypal stopping donations to Wikileaks?

True, it's something we should look at. Why? Will this grow in this future? Could it affect the community in a lot bigger way? And not only this one but a trend of this happening could be really bad for the Crypto World. The thing about bad examples is that they get in the head of people a lot easier than good ones.

I really like your profile picture, I could probably use one like that when i rank up in every possible way in my life only for the memories and the better memories i have faith that will come.

So in a Nutshell, if something could really affect the community in the future then we should take a good look at it and if it becomes a constant pattern then speak out and create awareness of course.
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April 12, 2019, 05:02:47 PM
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I'm willing to bet that nobody said the same when PayPal blocked WikiLeaks..
If I remember correctly that was commented as threats, abuse, illegal, etc etc..
Now, it's a free market and everybody should do what they want.

Although I hope it won't happen let's see your attitude on a major bank bans again crypto purchases.
Will you still keep this everyone is free to do what they want attitude?

Paypal banning Wikileaks is what brought attention to bitcoin as decentralized money. It's like the yin and yang - this is a part of the bitcoin story.
Paypal has every right to ban whoever they want, and they do. So people go to bitcoin.
Bitcoin and Paypal are not the same.

Don't you think that rather than posting 46 posts in a single day !!!! you should actually take a look at what you're posting and how you're answering questions?
Don't try to fake conversation with me by doing your usual 3 lines crap.
If you can't understand what I'm asking, do some research, if you don't know what to answer nobody is forcing you to do so,



The community is not exactly opposed to CZ taking a stand against Faketoshi. I just happened to give my opinion that jives with the community in large part. I honestly don't think everything has to be decentralized, and if people don't like Binance they can go elsewhere. In fact, Binance is about to set up a decentralized exchange, so people can go there instead. They choose which cryptos to list and which to kick out - that's the nature of Binance.

I mean damn. You don't need to hate on a lower-ranked member with more earned merits than you. But of course, that's irrelevant to the point of this thread.
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April 12, 2019, 05:08:30 PM
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I mean damn. You don't need to hate on a lower-ranked member with more earned merits than you. But of course, that's irrelevant to the point of this thread.

 Grin Grin Grin
Further proof you have no idea what you're talking Tongue but that can't stop you on your quest to reach 100 posts a day, right?
Kiddo, you have earned 5 merits, I have earned 504 !!!

The community is not exactly opposed to CZ taking a stand against Faketoshi. I just happened to give my opinion that jives with the community in large part. I honestly don't think everything has to be decentralized, and if people don't like Binance they can go elsewhere. In fact, Binance is about to set up a decentralized exchange, so people can go there instead. They choose which cryptos to list and which to kick out - that's the nature of Binance.

Again, gibberish, nothing to do with what I've asked you.
But nice to see you have done 4 lines of text now, not 3.


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April 12, 2019, 05:14:39 PM
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I mean damn. You don't need to hate on a lower-ranked member with more earned merits than you. But of course, that's irrelevant to the point of this thread.

 Grin Grin Grin
Further proof you have no idea what you're talking Tongue but that can't stop you on your quest to reach 100 posts a day, right?
Kiddo, you have earned 5 merits, I have earned 504 !!!

The community is not exactly opposed to CZ taking a stand against Faketoshi. I just happened to give my opinion that jives with the community in large part. I honestly don't think everything has to be decentralized, and if people don't like Binance they can go elsewhere. In fact, Binance is about to set up a decentralized exchange, so people can go there instead. They choose which cryptos to list and which to kick out - that's the nature of Binance.

Again, gibberish, nothing to do with what I've asked you.
But nice to see you have done 4 lines of text now, not 3.



So let's agree to disagree. This is an industry with sociopaths. CZ is taking a stand on principle. Yes, that does conflict with some of the ideals of bitcoin, but like I said, Binance regularly delists coins for various reasons. There is no reason to take shots at Binance for this and to be silent when they delist coins due to low volume - that's also a centralized action.

All I am saying is taking a stand based on principle - as opposed to the pure passivity of decentralization - is not exactly so objectionable. I do not believe in robotic acquiescence acording to some predetermined principle. Arguably, the problem with hyper-decentralization is that it allows too many psychopaths to thrive - hence why humans evolved in a communal, centralized fashion and tendency.
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April 12, 2019, 05:39:19 PM
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Craig Wright has sent a legal letter to Hodlonaut, the creator of the Lightning Torch, accusing him of libel for referring to Wright as a "fraud."

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/craig-wright-threatens-libel-suit-letter-bitcoiner-demands-apology/

As a public figure, this lawsuit would be extraordinarily difficult to win in the United States, but it could be filed in the UK, where libel cases are somewhat easier to win, though still difficult.
So why are we always slandered by the government and the media as one of the biggest scams? Why don't we sue fools who have declared this? I do not agree with this, and I believe he cannot win this case.
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April 12, 2019, 05:41:20 PM
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So let's agree to disagree. This is an industry with sociopaths. CZ is taking a stand on principle. Yes, that does conflict with some of the ideals of bitcoin, but like I said, Binance regularly delists coins for various reasons. There is no reason to take shots at Binance for this and to be silent when they delist coins due to low volume - that's also a centralized action.

All I am saying is taking a stand based on principle - as opposed to the pure passivity of decentralization - is not exactly so objectionable. I do not believe in robotic acquiescence acording to some predetermined principle. Arguably, the problem with hyper-decentralization is that it allows too many psychopaths to thrive - hence why humans evolved in a communal, centralized fashion and tendency.

What principle?Huh
I don't agree with you but I'm more powerful so I will hurt you?

So you basically agree that an exchange should delist a coin, be it a shitcoin like btcsv just because he doesn't like the attitude of the team behind it.  Shitcoin or not shitcoin, that thing is the 16th most traded coin, and will get delisted ..why?
Because somebody doesn't like CW?

I don't like him at all and I have never touched nor his coin not any other altcoins except for dumping my BCH but this is simply stupid.
What if next, he will say that he is concerned that the CIA is behind BTC and chooses to delist bitcoin, are you going to applaud his move again?

What is the difference between this guy threatening to delist coins and getting congratulations by the mob and Chavez nationalizing private business and houses in the applause of the angry mob?

Sorry but if we're replacing bank with exchanges run by this kind of people, then count me out.
I'm more comfortable with the former.

Oh....and nothing about the merit remark? Nothing?  Roll Eyes

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April 12, 2019, 06:34:53 PM
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So let's agree to disagree. This is an industry with sociopaths. CZ is taking a stand on principle. Yes, that does conflict with some of the ideals of bitcoin, but like I said, Binance regularly delists coins for various reasons. There is no reason to take shots at Binance for this and to be silent when they delist coins due to low volume - that's also a centralized action.

All I am saying is taking a stand based on principle - as opposed to the pure passivity of decentralization - is not exactly so objectionable. I do not believe in robotic acquiescence acording to some predetermined principle. Arguably, the problem with hyper-decentralization is that it allows too many psychopaths to thrive - hence why humans evolved in a communal, centralized fashion and tendency.

What principle?Huh
I don't agree with you but I'm more powerful so I will hurt you?

So you basically agree that an exchange should delist a coin, be it a shitcoin like btcsv just because he doesn't like the attitude of the team behind it.  Shitcoin or not shitcoin, that thing is the 16th most traded coin, and will get delisted ..why?
Because somebody doesn't like CW?

I don't like him at all and I have never touched nor his coin not any other altcoins except for dumping my BCH but this is simply stupid.
What if next, he will say that he is concerned that the CIA is behind BTC and chooses to delist bitcoin, are you going to applaud his move again?

What is the difference between this guy threatening to delist coins and getting congratulations by the mob and Chavez nationalizing private business and houses in the applause of the angry mob?

Sorry but if we're replacing bank with exchanges run by this kind of people, then count me out.
I'm more comfortable with the former.

Oh....and nothing about the merit remark? Nothing?  Roll Eyes


I was wrong about the merit comment and can admit when I'm wrong - so you win that one.

I think there's murkiness with this topic, but I also don't think it's possible for the decentralized purity that some people want for a number of reasons. For example, Binance is known to freeze coins stolen by hackers - a lot of people are not opposed to that. In many ways the space is still centralized. Heck, this forum is centralized with arbitrary rules and moderators, and for me that's OK. On the other hand, I understand that Larimer and Ver have had bad experiences with governments overextending themselves, so I understand why they take their somewhat extreme philosophical approach. I just don't see one path here that is objectively right.

I think we will eventually have decentralized exchanges that will prevent what Binance is threatening to do - as well as delist and freeze stolen assets. The question is - will these exchanges be absolutely good? We have laws and need regulations because there are abuses in the system. Where the middle ground is people will still disagree - but usually a compromise is found. But again, totally decentralized exchanges and virtual realities will come to fruition eventually. I don't think Binance has ever pretended to be decentralized.

The reality is, fraud and theft are rampant in this industry. This is partly due to the Wild West nature of it with regulations that are archaic and lacking. So I see this problem as a puzzle where pieces have to be put into place, and we're going to always disagree on the setup. But anyway, there will always be jurisdictions out there more suited to individual biases.

To sum it up, yeah, I think CW is an asshole, and I don't care if his coin gets shitcanned. Does it violate some core principle among bitcoiners? Yes. But I'm just going to shrug my shoulders on this one. I am not a purist.
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April 12, 2019, 06:47:54 PM
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yes this became his own boomerang for him, trying to trick people into claiming he was satoshi nakamoto. but people don't believe in him and of course he will get harsh criticism. and bringing this matter to court to fear those who criticize it is ridiculous and he will not win in this case. it seems like he wants to find sensation and attention.
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April 12, 2019, 06:54:26 PM
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Craig wright is taking the whole thing too far any way we wish him goodluck in doing that because he has always come out to criticized the whole system and no one threatened a law suit now that he is refer to as a fraud he is filling charges. This case may be difficult in the US considering is popularity and involvements in the past.
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April 12, 2019, 07:46:28 PM
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I will really like to see if this will followed through to a reasonable end and not just as a world of mouth. Even though am not a fan of Craig and many things has been said about him in this space which are not cool. Maybe now he is trying to pick them and react to them or he might want to prove something out of it. To me if someone calls me what am not , I simply move on because that’s just the opinion of the person and I keep doing my good.

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April 12, 2019, 08:04:55 PM
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This is the result of word of mouth. If you are nothing to say good I think you don't need to talk sonething bad or against to other even it is true or not. Let us think respect each other specially in this kind of business that have so many issues. The best way to stay away from this kind of issue,think first before doing or saying anything whatever it is online or in face to face business issue.

How about you stop spamming the forum with posts that make absolutely no sense just to be paid more in your signature campaign ?
Your post history is shit, you should be careful or you'll get tagged soon.
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April 13, 2019, 12:49:11 AM
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the holdnaut donation page has raise 9k until now. Everyone must support him against this hoaxer fraud

https://weareallhodlonaut.com/

and a full list of all of Craig Wrights scams

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/bc7j9m/craig_wright_is_a_fraud_hoaxer_a_reminder_for/

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/b318ih/in_honor_of_craig_wrights_ragequit_from_twitter_i/eiwho2w/

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April 13, 2019, 09:28:56 AM
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So the drama continues...Craig Wright still fighting for his claim as the real Satoshi. It is interesting to see how the end of all this drama, will he be declared as the real Satoshi or he will get the opposite.

i really really can't stand this Craig Wright.
I will be really disappointed if, in the end, he can prove to be the real Satoshi. In my mind Satoshi is not someone who is so bully and wants so much attention.
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https://twitter.com/KennETHbosak/status/1116642717226942464?s=20


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