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April 12, 2019, 12:28:11 PM Last edit: April 15, 2019, 05:09:29 PM by nakamura12 |
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My question is do you want to help the forum?
If yes, you can help the forum even if it is not very helpful but you still help the forum in this way. I won't include the ways you can help forum by posting good/constructive/high quality/meritable post, donating bitcoins to the forum, reporting spams, finding scam ICOs/sites that some forum users already did.
How can you help exactly?
Well, we all know that we start from newbie without knowledge about cryptocurrency or blockchain and more and we did post a non-highly quality post and useless post that sometimes will be deleted. You can help the forum to make it clean by deleting some of your old post that is not worth to read and you have to delete the post that is posted twice in the same thread. It happen to me when I'm posting to a thread and then after it loads I saw two post made by me so I had to delete the other one. This happened when i'm using my mobile phone but I don't know if this happen on a computer. My answer to the double post is that the post is posted twice due to slow internet connection. Even faster internet connections can also experience slower connection and double post may happen. Honestly, I did not do these ways in helping the forum clean myself (all the time) but I did deleted some double post that happen to me when i'm posting on using mobile a several times. I know there are some forum users who really want to help maintaining or helping cleaning the forum then this is one of the ways to help.
WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS IN THIS IDEA?
Edit: I forgot to add report to moderator and avoid over quoting as we know that will result to pyramid quoting.
Post your own opinion, criticism and more or share your own ideas. I'll lock this thread if this is not worth to discuss/to mention or I'll removed thread myself (if possible since i'm not a moderator).
Notice: I created this thread in GIVING IDEAS AND NOT A SUGGESTION.
TAKE NOTE: Only delete a post that is "USELESS" or "SPAM" post and more post that may be called as spam or shitpost. My point in this thread is to help/give ideas on what way you can do to help the forum.
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For me, deleting an old post is not necessary because that is a sink with a new post. IF you are a newbie I may advise you to stay at local section while you are not in the good poster and if you feel you didn't help the entire forum.
There's a simple way if you really want help the forum while you are a newbie or feeling newbie. "Report to moderator" scroll down lower right side, in that way it is very easy to spot a spammer by mods if you have found a spammy posts/replies.
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nakamura12 (OP)
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April 12, 2019, 01:12:17 PM |
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For me, deleting an old post is not necessary because that is a sink with a new post. IF you are a newbie I may advise you to stay at local section while you are not in the good poster and if you feel you didn't help the entire forum.
There's a simple way if you really want help the forum while you are a newbie or feeling newbie. "Report to moderator" scroll down lower right side, in that way it is very easy to spot a spammer by mods if you have found a spammy posts/replies.
Yes there is but what about the duplicate post you have made? As stated in my post, I experienced posting to a where after the thread loads I saw a two post with the same content and same time posted in that thread same as double spend. I forgot to add report to moderator option where you only report to mods and let the mods decide what the mods will do to that post. Anyway I am not saying it's necessary to delete old post. Deleted post that is reported to mods is also the same as deleting spammy/shitpost because both way is that the lost will be deleted, deleting old spammy, shitpost is also fine in my opinion that's why I created this thread to see if there's anyone who also think that this way can also be helpful.
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April 12, 2019, 01:37:56 PM |
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The deletion of double posts is the honorable thing to do whenever you discover that you Post's have been submitted twice, but deleting your old posts may not necessarily help the forum after all those where your learning period and you can always refer back to them. The most effective way to help this forum is to increase your knowledge about the forum and what it represent that is bitcoin/cryptocurrency and blockchain entirely. So that you can be able to provide solutions to problems and help other members with they questions.
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April 12, 2019, 02:31:49 PM |
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It's a great idea considering those old posts were shitposts mostly worthless i.e they didn't add any value as of posting although for the average post which aren't "technically spams" I don't advice you delete those. If a meriter comes across such posts in future it might earn you some merit (personally I have merited such posts) or help a user in need.
OP I understand your point of view that it benefits the forum and reduces the workload of moderators if you delete your worthless old posts yourself instead of letting it get reported for deletion. As humans we can't always produce quality and sometimes the topics you read will result to you leaving worthless reply and it's kinda a good practice to clean yourself when you have the chance to.
Although when it comes to topics deletion that isn't possible. There are few topics I started as a newbie that i would had love to delete too but instead I just edited and it's still in my posts history.
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Bounty hunters for example... You find someone with loads of bounty link reports in their post history. Bounties as old as one year ago, but they are not bothered to delete anything.
In fact a post history fully of bounty report links kills one's chances of; - Earning merit as most merit givers look through your post history. - Joining high quality Bitcoin paying signature campaigns as Campaign managers may obviously think that one is a poor poster
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April 12, 2019, 08:18:38 PM |
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Helping the forum is the duty of everyone because it would be beneficial to all. But helping the forum doesn't have to go with posts alone you cab help the forum by frowning on merit abuse, promoting scam project or inciting one, bastardising other member. Being greedy also in terms of only wanting to gain from the forum without actually appreciating the forum or willing to help it
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nakamura12 (OP)
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April 12, 2019, 09:16:11 PM |
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Helping the forum is the duty of everyone because it would be beneficial to all. But helping the forum doesn't have to go with posts alone you cab help the forum by frowning on merit abuse, promoting scam project or inciting one, bastardising other member. Being greedy also in terms of only wanting to gain from the forum without actually appreciating the forum or willing to help it
That is another way to help the forum which some forum users already did this ways like mentioned above like merit abuse and promoting scam projects will only give negative aura to newcomers that they will only think that the forum is only full of scam projects/ICOs which is not entirely true.
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April 13, 2019, 02:37:17 AM |
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OP I understand your point of view that it benefits the forum and reduces the workload of moderators if you delete your worthless old posts yourself instead of letting it get reported for deletion.
It is not only a contribution to reduce workload on forum staffs, but also help to improve the overview, general post quality of the forum. Let's me explain more. The fact, you clearly knew that if you join forum in 2017 or 2018, is that most of topics burried with shitty posts months ago, before the beginning of magical merit system. I rarely see forum staffs delete posts (even they are shitty posts) that have more than month- or year-old . Forum staffs delete old topics sometimes, but they don't spend too much time to screen all old posts and delete them. Report button should be used by normal forum users. If you occasionally find shitty posts that made months or years ago, you should report them to mods, then topics might become cleaner. If newcomers visit topics, they will have better impression on those topics, in particular, and better overview on the forum, in general. No one want to stay using forum that is burried with trash posts.
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April 13, 2019, 04:22:52 AM |
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I know that it's not necessary to delete average post which of course I know that it's not a spam because I can relate to those average post, honestly I do have average post but report to mods doesn't made the post got deleted right after it is reported because mods will investigate/analyze if the post is to be removed or not. It is not only a contribution to reduce workload on forum staffs, but also help to improve the overview, general post quality of the forum. Let's me explain more. The fact, you clearly knew that if you join forum in 2017 or 2018, is that most of topics burried with shitty posts months ago, before the beginning of magical merit system. I rarely see forum staffs delete posts (even they are shitty posts) that have more than month- or year-old . Forum staffs delete old topics sometimes, but they don't spend too much time to screen all old posts and delete them. Report button should be used by normal forum users. If you occasionally find shitty posts that made months or years ago, you should report them to mods, then topics might become cleaner. If newcomers visit topics, they will have better impression on those topics, in particular, and better overview on the forum, in general. No one want to stay using forum that is burried with trash posts.
Thank you for explaining the topic and yes, it's true that some meritable post are burried by the shitty ones especially in Spam M ega Threads discussions where other users really want a serious discussion while other users only there just to have a post to reach their quota.
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Sure, fella. Please do it yourself when you have time, for your own interests as well as for the forum interests in general. However, I believe that only real users, will apply your suggestion. Shitty posters, bounty hunters will never mind about screening back and delete their bad posts. They are very busy with their works to publish shitty things everyday.
In general, it's good for the forum, in long term, if users have time, then check back their post history, and delete their bad posts. Bad posts mean posts that are off-topic. Moreover, whenever they see bad posts, in topics they joined, they can report to moderators. It only costs them second to do this. Sometimes, mods will delete it, sometimes wont'. Sometimes you are right with your reports, sometimes you are wrong. Sometimes sfaffs/mods agree with your reports, sometimes they won't. Nevertheless, you should just do your works first, and let the rest for staffs/ mods, to clean up the forum.
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Forum do not need our bitcoins at this point of time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think we can stop feeding the trolls. No need to do argument with them. We are just bumping their topic and wasting our energy. Locking your own threads, once your query is resolved. Bookmarking the good topic and information , so you can help anybody with correct information. (it is saving your time and increase the value of your answer and in the the end it will be a quality post.) Working for self improvement is also good as it is going to increase the value of both forum and member. Post your opinissibleon,
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April 15, 2019, 03:48:33 PM Last edit: April 15, 2019, 04:06:57 PM by tranthidung |
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Forum do not need our bitcoins at this point of time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) theymos, has stated so many times that the forum does not need money. I did not note the theymos' original post on this, but I might come back some days later to update the post with link to his original statements. Maybe you can find it here, but not sure: Get Donator status by donating 10 BTC
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April 15, 2019, 04:40:55 PM |
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You can help the forum to make it clean by deleting some of your old post A week or two ago, I've deleted almost 300 of my posts from 2017. They're mostly weekly reports and authentication posts from finished/abandoned bounty campaigns.
Other than doing those stated by OP, I think we can help more by tracking alt accounts that are active in bounties. It takes more time but a lot of posts will be avoided if those accounts will be reported.
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April 15, 2019, 05:39:25 PM |
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<…>A week or two ago, I've deleted almost 300 of my posts from 2017. They're mostly weekly reports and authentication posts from finished/abandoned bounty campaigns.<…>
Deleted posts are not really erased from the Database, since Admins can still gain access to them, although regular mods don’t (see re: Can the mods see deleted posts? Is deleting/reposting allowed?). Post deletion seems therefore to be performed at a logical level on the database, not physical. I’m not sure if logical deletions simply modify the state of the post (i.e. set it to "deleted") or if the deleted posts get moved on to another table to shorten the post database table. By that I mean that it likely may not have barely any impact on forum throughput.
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April 15, 2019, 05:54:09 PM Last edit: August 08, 2019, 07:09:54 PM by nakamura12 |
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Forum do not need our bitcoins at this point of time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I totally agree with you but there are some forum users who want to have a custom title in their account but did not continue his/her plan to have a custom title because will cost you 50BTC to become VIP just like this forum user that really want to have a custom tiltle like the forum user profile url in the thread. How this user got custom title?. Post your opinissibleon,
![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Corrected. Thank you for letting me know that mistake as it should be "own opinion" or I must have scramble it with some new letters as the Word Prediction is "ON" so I turn it off. Word prediction can sometimes mess the spelling. My thought about that mistake is like a combination of two words the result is "opinissibleon", it look like a combination of po(ssible) and (opini)(on). Do you think so? A week or two ago, I've deleted almost 300 of my posts from 2017. They're mostly weekly reports and authentication posts from finished/abandoned bounty campaigns.
That's a lot of old post you have deleted but unfortunately I am not deleting my old post right away because I'll have to check the post again if it is good to delete or some small tweaking but as my op stated deleting shitty post is that I don't waste my time checking those shitty post I have, seldomly I'll edit some of it just like what CryptopreneurBrainboss stated as it may help newbies too but if not "poof" that's it. It is the same as the merit where it stated that "there is no point of hoarding smerits" where in posts is "there is no point in keeping/hoarding unusable/useless post", simple as that. In my opinion it's still helpful though, since forum users don't usually be able to see a post in a thread then the interested readers doesn't need to skip/pass a post and readers or those who want to learn will have more time to read and less time consumed for skipping such posts. Sure, fella. Please do it yourself when you have time, for your own interests as well as for the forum interests in general. However, I believe that only real users, will apply your suggestion. Shitty posters, bounty hunters will never mind about screening back and delete their bad posts. They are very busy with their works to publish shitty things everyday.
Well, I'm not really suggesting this idea but deleting old post can be useful too like what I stated above that readers/learners won't take much time skipping shitpost or whatever trash they'll encounter.
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