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April 12, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
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In the quest to clean up the forum,i feel there is need to be considerate.I appreciate the fact that we need to maintain some check and balance in the forum,but it is bad when some innocent become a victim all in the name of trying to maintain some check and balance in the forum.I don't know why some guys have turned to police overnight in the forum,hunting for people,claiming that they are running multiple account,at times ,most of their proof are not strong enough as far as am concern because we all know that,this is internet where anything is possible.Though some might feel,the so called police are doing all these to clean up the forum,but you know what i see,
1.I see hatred been demonstrated to some section of the forum.
2.I see people that are desperate to earn some merit by using other people as a bait.
3.I see people that are seeking to be known by the administrator by pretending to be cleaning the forum.
4.I see opportunist

I feel the administrator can actually run the check and balance by themselves instead of leaving the destiny of people on this forum at the mercy of these desperate set of people.I want you all to know that,the forum need the people just like the people need the forum.If care is not taken,more desperate guys will take advantage of this and more innocent will become a victim,and this can later result to,if i can't beat them,then,i will join them.Am calling on theymos and the rest to do some review.
  I know we have got a good administrator,in the person of theymos.

I don't think it is sensible for the same DT members to attempt to derail, defame, and discredit the post and poster on the basis of pure speculation as to whom the individual may be.

This kind of behavior from the same DT members could be construed to be the bullying and mafia type tactics the thread is trying to bring attention to.  Even if you believe you are acting in the best interests of the board, you should still confine yourselves to operating with a certain decorum and remain respectful during discussions whether they align with your own views or not. If you can provide evidence that you feel is robust enough to provide a refutation, then that is a different matter.

There are certainly some instances where people are being unfairly treated on this forum. 
It comes as no surprise to me that some members will feel compelled to use alternative accounts to protect their main accounts from reprisals.

The admin should provide some strict enforceable guidance for red trust . I feel that is what the initial poster is asking for.

I thought this forum is supposed to be decentralized, why are the few mobsters holding power over all of us.  They throw out red trust like they are giving out halloween candy.  Why do we continue to let them abuse and use us like this.  Its just about the principle at this point, people going around bullying others What gives them the right, that guy doesn't even understand shit about bitcoin.  This soundsl ike I'm frustrated, yes I am I really do care about this forum but we have bullies here that come and act like this is their house and their the kings.  I've provided knowledge and help to the community and I get bunched in with the scammers and spammers for doing nothing wrong.  Why is this corrupt trust system even is place, bitcointalk is falling in shambles and I know for a fact these gambling sig shillers are taking bribe money and doing backdoor deals all the time.  So much corruption so much power tripping on a virtual forum that used to be a place of great discussion.

A few users, powerful users use their influence to change the forum dynamics.
We see now where we have a merit system where it is set up that these powerful members decide who decides to rank up, particularly considering that these powerful users are awarded merit points out of thin air for nothing. I think you call them merit sources. Besides from merit sources, these powerful members constantly virtue signal by meriting each other for every half-arsed thread posted in  meta (or anywhere where they see each other post really). We now have a forum where only these powerful people and people who they like rank up.

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To look everything over, these powerful members control the ranking system. A system where they themselves and people who they like rank up. Other high ranking members are eliminated from the scenario for reasons mentioned above.At the end of the day, we have only these high powerful members and their friends in the higher ranks of the forum. What happens is that only this select group are able to make any sort of money from their accounts.
It gets worse, these powerful members also run the campaigns. They are paid to pay their friends and people who they like.

The-One-Above-All is best with their reply:

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It comes as no surprise to me that some members will feel compelled to use alternative accounts to protect their main accounts from reprisals.

Protecting main account with brand new account. Then doesn't want to speak from brand new account at who are they pointing.

I bet 10$ they will create new account to complain that they post from new account to protect brand new account  Cheesy

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April 12, 2019, 09:23:56 PM
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I noticed it earlier. Sadly it’s not a new thing, sock puppets will always be created to do the dirty work their main account is too much of a coward to do.

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April 12, 2019, 09:42:36 PM
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Using of sockpuppet simply signifies 2 points.

1. They think that broken part of trust system might be used against them.
2. Their main account has no credibility left and even a "Brand New" accounts look more credible then their main account.

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The most of the sockpuppet just afraid and scared that there main account maybe get tagged or they want to hide there opinion with there main account !

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April 12, 2019, 10:04:01 PM
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Using of sockpuppet simply signifies 2 points.

1. They think that broken part of trust system might be used against them.
2. Their main account has no credibility left and even a "Brand New" accounts look more credible then their main account.

I think it's

3. Trolling.

All those sockpuppets provided exactly zero (0) facts or other tangible details as to what the actual problems are, if any. Just some generic rants.

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Using of sockpuppet simply signifies 2 points.

1. They think that broken part of trust system might be used against them.
2. Their main account has no credibility left and even a "Brand New" accounts look more credible then their main account.

I think it's

3. Trolling.

All those sockpuppets provided exactly zero (0) facts or other tangible details as to what the actual problems are, if any. Just some generic rants.

Maybe you're retarded or maybe you just refuse to read. If you gloss over my thread, I literally call someone out for sending somebody 10 merits for a post that doesn't deserve to be merited.
Because it's a friend of yours you turn a blind eye.
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April 12, 2019, 10:25:33 PM
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2. Their main account has no credibility left and even a "Brand New" accounts look more credible then their main account.
It's this reason, in my opinion.  My guess is that these are sockpuppets of some of the better-known Meta trolls that no one is listening to anymore.  Creating new accounts espousing the same crackpot ideas creates the illusion that the trolls have independent support.  I'm not buying it.

My suggestion is to put all the new accounts on ignore if you don't agree with what they're saying--because they're probably not going to change their tune and will keep repeating the same tired old rants against DT, the trust system, merits, and more.  It's all just more noise on Meta.

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I think it's

3. Trolling.

All those sockpuppets provided exactly zero (0) facts or other tangible details as to what the actual problems are, if any. Just some generic rants.

Maybe you're retarded or maybe you just refuse to read. If you gloss over my thread, I literally call someone out for sending somebody 10 merits for a post that doesn't deserve to be merited.
Because it's a friend of yours you turn a blind eye.

And this little "emotional" outburst and invitation to "read' is enough to understand who is behind the persecuted newbies that are invading the meta section.

I bet 10$ they will create new account to complain that they post from new account to protect brand new account  Cheesy

I fell tempted to give each of them 10$ if they promise to follow the path of their Overlord and take a break.

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April 13, 2019, 01:34:47 AM
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Maybe you're retarded or maybe you just refuse to read. If you gloss over my thread, I literally call someone out for sending somebody 10 merits for a post that doesn't deserve to be merited.
Because it's a friend of yours you turn a blind eye.

The horror... newbie troll thinks a post doesn't deserve merit. Call the internet cops. Oh wait...

So you got nothing.

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Peotecting their accounts? Accounts that is only a MEMBER Rank 🤣 Oh come on, still, can't think of the logic on what they're doing, did they really think newbies has a voice here? (newly created and spouting issues from nowhere)

USERS from The old generation are way too scaredy cats 🤣 too afraid to lost their accounts and also be tagged. Hahaha




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I am non native English speaker, so I appreciated your words that help me to learn a new vocabulary, sockpuppet, and its example usage.  Lips sealed


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I am non native English speaker, so I appreciated your words that help me to learn a new vocabulary, sockpuppet, and its example usage.  Lips sealed

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ONE MORE SOCKPUPPET : (similar to mentioned in the OP)

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ONE MORE SOCKPUPPET : (similar to mentioned in the OP)

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Every Sr member said  why this forum gives red trust, How secure my account for red trust

With the latest thread they opened in the Meta section, I think this is a legit noob.  Cheesy
(I reported the thread to moderator to move to off topic board.)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131323
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ONE MORE SOCKPUPPET : (similar to mentioned in the OP)

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Every Sr member said  why this forum gives red trust, How secure my account for red trust

With the latest thread they opened in the Meta section, I think this is a legit noob.  Cheesy
(I reported the thread to moderator to move to off topic board.)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131323

yep, their english is too bad. the other ones are all pretty eloquent, that and their general attitude(s) remind me of another Meta troll who has gone missing recently.

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That Jet Cash is one culprit, when he puts his right hand up, we can be quite erudite and sensible, but the left hand makes us use naughty sexually explicit words like "tupz". I wonder if he still owns the dot com of that.  I liked my brother JetAid, but he hasn't been very helpful lately, and there is much Jet about him.

Mind you - Jet Cash isn't becoming a bit obsessed with crypto, and he's turning his back on cash. It's all those nasty dirty notes, he'd much rather have some nice clean virtual assets that don't smell of coke.

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With the latest thread they opened in the Meta section, I think this is a legit noob.  Cheesy
(I reported the thread to moderator to move to off topic board.)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131323
Yes, but I think he would be banned soon.

He is paralizing posts. This makes me inclined to think he is a noob for sure.

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BitCoin mining is a record-keeping service that is done using computer processing power. Bitcoin transactions are recorded in blockchains, which functions as a public ledger. The consistentency and completeness of the blockchain is maintained in an unalterable state by miners, who repeatedly verify and collect newly broadcast transactions – this is called as a block.Cyber criminals infect vulnerable computers with BitCoin Miner Virus to steal computer processing power. This drastically affects the performance of the system. Hence, users must be able to detect and remove BitCoin Miner virus.

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Source: https://antivirus.comodo.com/blog/comodo-news/detect-remove-bitcoin-miner-virus/
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April 13, 2019, 08:05:14 AM
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Maybe you're retarded or maybe you just refuse to read. If you gloss over my thread, I literally call someone out for sending somebody 10 merits for a post that doesn't deserve to be merited.
Because it's a friend of yours you turn a blind eye.
JetCash explained what happened a few posts below how it came to the post being rewarded with 10 merits.
Ask yourself what is his motive in abusing the merit system in that way? He is a Legendary rank here, doesn't wear a signature and is not participating in any campaigns. He has several alt accounts, which is not against the rules and anyone is allowed to have them. All of them Member rank (I think) and none of them are in any campaigns either.

If he is not using his main account for profit, which could earn him the biggest payouts and probably five times more than a Member account, why would he be meriting his unknown alts, friends or selling his merits - I am not sure what exactly you are accusing him to do.

So without foul language, what exactly is the problem with JetCash?
 

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April 13, 2019, 03:28:21 PM
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Maybe you're retarded or maybe you just refuse to read. If you gloss over my thread, I literally call someone out for sending somebody 10 merits for a post that doesn't deserve to be merited.
Because it's a friend of yours you turn a blind eye.
JetCash explained what happened a few posts below how it came to the post being rewarded with 10 merits.
Ask yourself what is his motive in abusing the merit system in that way? He is a Legendary rank here, doesn't wear a signature and is not participating in any campaigns. He has several alt accounts, which is not against the rules and anyone is allowed to have them. All of them Member rank (I think) and none of them are in any campaigns either.

If he is not using his main account for profit, which could earn him the biggest payouts and probably five times more than a Member account, why would he be meriting his unknown alts, friends or selling his merits - I am not sure what exactly you are accusing him to do.

So without foul language, what exactly is the problem with JetCash?
 

He did not explain why he decided to give his pal merits just because he asked for them.

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4661300.msg49692389#msg49692389


I see merits given to this initial post. I see no PROOF than any of these accounts that are being accused of being sock puppets are sock puppets. May I see the proof.

It is the double standards of you and your friends here which there is clear proof of.


Do you have proof it was me who deleted posts?

Yes, yes, I understand this but do you have proof that it was me who deleted posts?

Post video proof of me pressing delete button and removing posts from account zorroback.

This is an accusation with no proof. You can not claim every new account that posts something you do not like is a sock puppet or alt account without evidence.
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April 13, 2019, 03:56:47 PM
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Why it now looks to me they all are the alt of a single person whose rants are lengthy post are missing now from Meta.
Surprisingly that poster did not posted in past couple of days.

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