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April 15, 2019, 10:55:33 PM
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It was this guy @yoloyet : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2547690

He replied on my thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132164.0) where I was offering $115 ADA for $105 to payoneer, but seems like he removed his post but here are screenshots of our conversation on telegram... If someone from administration can contact this guy because he had some issues before about scamming but everything ended nicely because it wasn't problem in him but in guy who ordered something from him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127291.0). So when I saw this topic I trusted him and I sent him my ADA and he promised to send money via payoneer as I wanted... Really don't know why I did that, we had a little chat on telegram and I started to trust this guy, so if moderation can do anything about this it would be amazing, thanks in advance...

proof of transaction: https://cardanoexplorer.com/tx/2143347c43d8f7461cebef5f7c60be36b39963bb07016eddd9e221ee0a4e17c0

here are screenshots of our conversation and proof that I've sent him my ADA but he scammed me at the end...

https://imgur.com/a/pp4vUZG

https://imgur.com/a/m8I4AKi

and from this point he started with messages like "who you are."

his telegram account is @ambosss and he introduced himself like guy from romania... I'm willing to remove this thread if he refunds me back my coins...
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April 15, 2019, 11:15:22 PM
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Did you use escrow?

EDIT: From the screenshots, escrow was not used.

OP is asking me to remove my feedback for a successful trade because of what happened to them.

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April 15, 2019, 11:21:19 PM
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Please proof the messages by forwarding to a trusted user.

Check if my username was @ambosss
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April 15, 2019, 11:22:33 PM
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You have a mistake on dealing with a newbie always read the sticky thread before you deal.

Do you know how to use the escrow? Always check this list of escrow here if you deal to lower rank members.

If you deal to lower rank member you should always use an escrow to avoid scam attempts like the scammer you linked above.

What I noticed from the scammer trust list he receives bad feedbacks but he receives trusted feedback from a trusted forum member here. You maybe need to contact him and bring him here to start conversation why he is still not sending the payment yet.

Edit: Looks like he's here.

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April 15, 2019, 11:23:32 PM
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Did you use escrow?

No we did not sadly... I thought guy was legit because he had been reported before for scamming and it turned out to be misunderstanding... as I said if he's willing to return coins I'm ready to remove this thread and we are fine..
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April 15, 2019, 11:25:46 PM
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Please proof the messages by forwarding to a trusted user.

Check if my username was @ambosss

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April 15, 2019, 11:30:58 PM
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Please proof the messages by forwarding to a trusted user.

Check if my username was @ambosss

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hopefuly someone from moderation can see deleted post and confirm that it's that username on telegram which you posted... here is thread so please someone check it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132164.0

as I said, if you want to refund me my coins I'm willing to delete this and everything will be fine...
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April 15, 2019, 11:42:08 PM
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there you go, same telegram username in your posts...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=2547690;sa=showPosts

https://imgur.com/a/gQcKDBA
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April 15, 2019, 11:52:52 PM
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You have a mistake on dealing with a newbie always read the sticky thread before you deal.

Do you know how to use the escrow? Always check this list of escrow here if you deal to lower rank members.

If you deal to lower rank member you should always use an escrow to avoid scam attempts like the scammer you linked above.

What I noticed from the scammer trust list he receives bad feedbacks but he receives trusted feedback from a trusted forum member here. You maybe need to contact him and bring him here to start conversation why he is still not sending the payment yet.

Edit: Looks like he's here.

so how these things usualy end up? he's here pretending that he's not, won't even reply to my messages? we wait for moderationg then what?
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April 16, 2019, 12:16:32 AM
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so how these things usualy end up? he's here pretending that he's not, won't even reply to my messages? we wait for moderationg then what?

I think the conversation from telegram or any 3rd party conversation is not enough to tell that he is scammer you must provide a proof that you ask the telegram account name here on bitcointalk like a screenshot from the conversation in your Bitcointalk messages(PM).

If you just input the screenshot from the telegram conversation without telling us how did you get his telegram account we can not say that he is scammer.

As what I look from the image the name you are dealing is yolo, not @ambosss look at the image again.

As I told you recently that dealing without escrow to lower rank member might be scam you should always use trusted escrow to deal with low-rank members here on the forum

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April 16, 2019, 12:22:02 AM
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so how these things usualy end up? he's here pretending that he's not, won't even reply to my messages? we wait for moderationg then what?

I think the conversation from telegram or any 3rd party conversation is not enough to tell that he is scammer you must provide a proof that you ask the telegram account name here on bitcointalk like a screenshot from the conversation in your Bitcointalk messages(PM).

If you just input the screenshot from the telegram conversation without telling us how did you get his telegram account we can not say that he is scammer.



don't know why would anyone think that I would come here and not tell the truth about this poor scammer soul? I have no interest in telling lies about this guy, he's scammer, I got scammed because I'm stupid for trusting him... Everyone can check thread which I made on markeplace where I sent the guy my ada but he had some problems with payoneer and we weren't able to complete transaction, and then this scammer came in... I have no reason to lie about this guy, this is conversation we made, I know I have no reputation but fact that he removed post from my thread can tell something to moderation... I hope they can see that he removed the post from my thread...
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April 16, 2019, 12:28:08 AM
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I can not believe I did not see your topic. If I had, I would have made you an offer. Sad

But it is imperative that an escrow is used in negotiations like this. There is nothing the forum can do to help you recover the money; As the payoneer does not offer the opportunity to dispute, it is very difficult to recover the money using their services. But it is still possible to lock the user account if you provide enough evidence. And make DT1 member negative the scam profile here in the forum.
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April 16, 2019, 12:32:47 AM
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I thought guy was legit because he had been reported before for scamming and it turned out to be misunderstanding.

This makes absolutely zero sense, in my head.
You noticed that the used was previously accused of scamming (A), but because this was incorrect it gave you more of a reason to trust them (B); Can you explain how you get from A to B?

When you're dealing with an account created 2-months ago, or dealing with any amount/item you'd be upset to lose, use an escrow.

 
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April 16, 2019, 12:36:21 AM
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I can not believe I did not see your topic. If I had, I would have made you an offer. Sad

But it is imperative that an escrow is used in negotiations like this. There is nothing the forum can do to help you recover the money; As the payoneer does not offer the opportunity to dispute, it is very difficult to recover the money using their services. But it is still possible to lock the user account if you provide enough evidence. And make DT1 member negative the scam profile here in the forum.

I think I'm done with crypto because of people like this one who scammed me... and this forum, why is there that thingy one hour one message, two messages a day? how am I supposed to have evidence if I have to contact people via telegram, skype etc... but oh well, I have learned a lesson, good thing it ain't much more, but I need that money desperately right now, would never offer to sell them If I didn't have to...

I thought guy was legit because he had been reported before for scamming and it turned out to be misunderstanding.

This makes absolutely zero sense, in my head.
You noticed that the used was previously accused of scamming (A), but because this was incorrect it gave you more of a reason to trust them (B); Can you explain how you get from A to B?

When you're dealing with an account created 2-months ago, or dealing with any amount/item you'd be upset to lose, use an escrow.

because he's been accused for scamming before, and it turned out to be misunderstanding between him and guy who made thread like I made right now... so I was thinking this guy is okay, don't know...
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April 16, 2019, 01:26:55 AM
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The capabilities to reason and logic here are dwindling by the post. You're going to be done with cryptocurrency because there is a minority of people that scam and have bad intentions. Does that same logic follow for being involved with USD, payoneer or whatever other money/currency you utilize currently? You made a bad decision and got taken advantage of; it happens to the best of us at one point or another. Allowing it to discourage you is not doing yourself any favors. I'd suggest becoming more well-equipped to prevent these situations.

There's restrictions on the forum activity of low-ranking members to combat the spam we've been increasingly experiencing throughout the years.

Being wrongfully accused of scamming in the past is no indication that you can be trusted. I don't know why that even needs to be said.

 
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April 16, 2019, 01:28:53 AM
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Please proof the messages by forwarding to a trusted user.

Check if my username was @ambosss


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April 16, 2019, 02:41:33 AM
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OP is asking me to remove my feedback for a successful trade because of what happened to them.
I don't think you should remove anyone by anyone's speech. But if you think that person is a scammer or can scam then you should remove it without anyone's speech. Even trust can be the opposite positive to negative.

Please proof the messages by forwarding to a trusted user.

Check if my username was @ambosss
I don't think op can proof it because telegram is the easiest way from where all chat information can be removed within a second.  And telegram username can be changed also at the same time a new account can be created on the previous username.
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April 16, 2019, 02:47:34 AM
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I think the conversation from telegram or any 3rd party conversation is not enough to tell that he is scammer you must provide a proof that you ask the telegram account name here on bitcointalk like a screenshot from the conversation in your Bitcointalk messages(PM).

If you just input the screenshot from the telegram conversation without telling us how did you get his telegram account we can not say that he is scammer.
don't know why would anyone think that I would come here and not tell the truth about this poor scammer soul? I have no interest in telling lies about this guy, he's scammer, I got scammed because I'm stupid for trusting him... Everyone can check thread which I made on markeplace where I sent the guy my ada but he had some problems with payoneer and we weren't able to complete transaction, and then this scammer came in... I have no reason to lie about this guy, this is conversation we made, I know I have no reputation but fact that he removed post from my thread can tell something to moderation... I hope they can see that he removed the post from my thread...

It isn't that we don't believe that you *think* you were scammed by "yoloyet" aka @ambosss... but it is actually quite simple for people on Telegram to create identical/similar "usernames" to commit scams by pretending to be other users.

So, we need to see some actual proof, other than your word, that definitively links yoloyet (Bitcointalk account) and the account that you were talking to on Telegram ("yolo"). Should you be able to show that the "yolo" account that you were talking to on Telegram is indeed @ambosss, there is sufficient proof in yoloyet's bitcointalk history to show that he is @ambosss.

Without this, all we have is some screenshots from someone called "yolo". Undecided

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April 16, 2019, 03:22:12 AM
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OP is asking me to remove my feedback for a successful trade because of what happened to them.
I don't think you should remove anyone by anyone's speech. But if you think that person is a scammer or can scam then you should remove it without anyone's speech. Even trust can be the opposite positive to negative.

Please proof the messages by forwarding to a trusted user.

Check if my username was @ambosss
I don't think op can proof it because telegram is the easiest way from where all chat information can be removed within a second.  And telegram username can be changed also at the same time a new account can be created on the previous username.


Can be deleted from one side, as it shows in the screenshots , some messages are old already and can't be deleted on both sides. At least him should have the conversation and can share it easily.

HCP - yes, it can be changed within a second, i always ask people to use minerjones as he is fast as always on telegram, not my fault he was played by someone.

Next time take care and use escrow

Solution, get in touch with someone that posted in this channel and forward the message where I gave you an ADA address. They can check if the message comes from me or not, whatever the username i had at that moment. it will show the current one.
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April 16, 2019, 03:30:03 AM
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Can be deleted from one side
You are not right at this point. On the new version of the telegram, the message can be deleted from both sides and of both person's message. I mean it is possible to delete all message from all sides within a second.
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