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Today at 05:45:49 PM
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Investing in Bitcoin is not risk free especially to investors who do not  invest appropriately with the right approach and strategy,  and also not sticking to their investment plans (long-term).
I disagree with your statement partly because long term investing is not risk free. Investing in Bitcoin or other coins certainly involves risk. If you are a professional investor then you are used to taking risks as the price of any currency is not always the same and fluctuates constantly. This is the picture we see in the cryptocurrency market.
However, although the investment involves risk, the level of risk in Bitcoin investment is relatively low. The risk level of Bitcoin investment is low because investors buy and hold the currency for a long period of time by buying and accumulating small amounts in what we call the Dollar Cost Averaging method. If you want to earn substantial profits, investing in this method requires you to plan to hold the investment for a long period of time.

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Today at 05:49:40 PM
Last edit: Today at 06:22:34 PM by Samlucky O
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1 demand and supply 2 market sentiment 3 rumor
4 media and news 5 regulation

and the number 5 which is regulation, falls under government or politics that affect bitcoin. in which ever way you guys put it politics have a role to play in bitcoin growth not saying it as if you are not sure.

However even the five factors you believed has influence on Bitcoin growth actually had nothing to do with politics and also we know that market is all about demand and supply but in terms of media I don't think it has any serious effect on Bitcoin because Bitcoin is  not any kind of coin that would possibly be manipulated by media influencers however on the aspect you mentioned Rumors I don't really understand what you meant by that.

@Salamuh I think what pi network is saying is true demand and supply is not the only thing that drive bitcoin adoptions or increase or decrease bitcoin growth as the case may be, from my understanding the media influencers influences bitcoin decrease in a situation where by they mislead people in social media to invest in some shitcoins, in hope of getting a big return, motlsly in telegram, YouTube and other social media platforms and this cause a distraction making most bitcoin investors to move there fund from bitcoin and invest is scam projects and they lose in turn an cause decline in bitcoin. Emagine if an influencer distract an investors and they pull out 50000 numbers of bitcoin from the market, wount it cause a decline? And vise versa if an influencer leure people to invest 50000 number of bitcoin to the market wount it cause an increase? So surely media influencers have a role to play in bitcoin.

And rumours is more likely to function as social media influencers too. In rumour people get a wrong speculation about bitcoin like "there will be a sudden dip in price of bitcoin"predicted by some bitcoin analyst which might not be true and some fear minded investors will likely pull out some liquid from bitcoin and sell due to panic and I believe that surely this has a role to play in bitcoin decline in my own understanding and research.

And Morover politics/regulation has a big role to play too. Most countries today would have adopted bitcoin massively like El Salvador but due to government regulations and strick ban in bitcoin transaction has cause a decline in bitcoin adoption. Just like Nigeria government delisted NGN from exchange shows that they have a role to play and even if they decide that all exchange should delist all Nigerian fiat P2P it will clamp down on all. Government has place ban on bitcoin transaction in many countries and that has decrease people's interest in bitcoin investment/adsorption. So how can you say politics and regulations has no role to play. Why is El Salvador popular today ? Isn't it because of government regulations and making it massive for all?

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Today at 06:16:44 PM
 #9903

Investing in Bitcoin is not risk free especially to investors who do not  invest appropriately with the right approach and strategy,  and also not sticking to their investment plans (long-term).
I disagree with your statement partly because long term investing is not risk free. Investing in Bitcoin or other coins certainly involves risk. If you are a professional investor then you are used to taking risks as the price of any currency is not always the same and fluctuates constantly. This is the picture we see in the cryptocurrency market.
However, although the investment involves risk, the level of risk in Bitcoin investment is relatively low. The risk level of Bitcoin investment is low because investors buy and hold the currency for a long period of time by buying and accumulating small amounts in what we call the Dollar Cost Averaging method. If you want to earn substantial profits, investing in this method requires you to plan to hold the investment for a long period of time.
Then you didn't grasp what I said properly, read well, I said is not risk free meaning there is risk involved in investing in Bitcoin.

I never mentioned or made references to shitcoins or Altcoins investment in my comment, @AirtelBuzz you bringing it up on this thread.  I was specifically talking about Bitcoin investment which is my only choice of investment in digital currency. I would never investment my funds in Altcoins and shitcoins, investing in shitcoins or Altcoins is a simple waste of funds. The opportunity bitcoin offers is very significant, there is no need to look side ways.
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Today at 08:22:45 PM
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1 demand and supply 2 market sentiment 3 rumor
4 media and news 5 regulation

and the number 5 which is regulation, falls under government or politics that affect bitcoin. in which ever way you guys put it politics have a role to play in bitcoin growth not saying it as if you are not sure.

However even the five factors you believed has influence on Bitcoin growth actually had nothing to do with politics and also we know that market is all about demand and supply but in terms of media I don't think it has any serious effect on Bitcoin because Bitcoin is  not any kind of coin that would possibly be manipulated by media influencers however on the aspect you mentioned Rumors I don't really understand what you meant by that.

@Salamuh I think what pi network is saying is true demand and supply is not the only thing that drive bitcoin adoptions or increase or decrease bitcoin growth as the case may be, from my understanding the media influencers influences bitcoin decrease in a situation where by they mislead people in social media to invest in some shitcoins, in hope of getting a big return, motlsly in telegram, YouTube and other social media platforms and this cause a distraction making most bitcoin investors to move there fund from bitcoin and invest is scam projects and they lose in turn an cause decline in bitcoin. Emagine if an influencer distract an investors and they pull out 50000 numbers of bitcoin from the market, wount it cause a decline? And vise versa if an influencer leure people to invest 50000 number of bitcoin to the market wount it cause an increase? So surely media influencers have a role to play in bitcoin.

And rumours is more likely to function as social media influencers too. In rumour people get a wrong speculation about bitcoin like "there will be a sudden dip in price of bitcoin"predicted by some bitcoin analyst which might not be true and some fear minded investors will likely pull out some liquid from bitcoin and sell due to panic and I believe that surely this has a role to play in bitcoin decline in my own understanding and research.

And Morover politics/regulation has a big role to play too. Most countries today would have adopted bitcoin massively like El Salvador but due to government regulations and strick ban in bitcoin transaction has cause a decline in bitcoin adoption. Just like Nigeria government delisted NGN from exchange shows that they have a role to play and even if they decide that all exchange should delist all Nigerian fiat P2P it will clamp down on all. Government has place ban on bitcoin transaction in many countries and that has decrease people's interest in bitcoin investment/adsorption. So how can you say politics and regulations has no role to play. Why is El Salvador popular today ? Isn't it because of government regulations and making it massive for all?
Demand and supply is the major factor that controls the price of any commodity and the same applies to bitcoin. Bitcoin started growing from the scratch and got to this price because a lot of people have adopted it and the demand increases while the supply decreases every four years during the halving.

Other factors are minor factors and they are short-term but demand and supply is are long-term factor.

Investing in Bitcoin is not risk free especially to investors who do not  invest appropriately with the right approach and strategy,  and also not sticking to their investment plans (long-term).
I disagree with your statement partly because long term investing is not risk free. Investing in Bitcoin or other coins certainly involves risk. If you are a professional investor then you are used to taking risks as the price of any currency is not always the same and fluctuates constantly. This is the picture we see in the cryptocurrency market.
However, although the investment involves risk, the level of risk in Bitcoin investment is relatively low. The risk level of Bitcoin investment is low because investors buy and hold the currency for a long period of time by buying and accumulating small amounts in what we call the Dollar Cost Averaging method. If you want to earn substantial profits, investing in this method requires you to plan to hold the investment for a long period of time.
In addition, DCA limit the risk in bitcoin because it gives you the opportunity to buy bitcoin at various price interval, and very easy to implement. Since DCA is done with our discretionary income, it means that even if we lose that money it does not matter to us because bitcoin price might go against us and that will not be a problem. However, the odds of bitcoin price going against us is low and that is why one need to invest regularly and consistent as a new investor using DCA for up to 4-10 years and above because long term investment is the best.

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Today at 08:41:02 PM
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Nobody is saying that bitcoin is relying on some political campaigns to make headlines or saying that without political endorsement of bitcoin by politicians that bitcoin will not keep breaking new heights, and setting records

Am sorry, I didn't address anything concerning Bitcoin hitting a new height or setting records. You might be responding to something very different from what I contributed to JJG's reply.

Incase you didn't go through my entire writeup, let me quote a summary of what I was trying to pass across.


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The truth is, politics and Bitcoin are two different things that might not work in hand. My reason for saying this is because: Bitcoin happens to be very transparent and open. it is a system of decentralization where power belongs to everyone who is connected. This is unlike politics where power belongs to a certain group of people that categories themselves as same party members or dictators.

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I am not motivated to invest in Bitcoin because a political candidate is showing interest or has made several promises. I am making my own investment for my own benefits.

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I shouldn't be motivated to invest in Bitcoin just because a politician has it in mind. But Incase those campaign promises becomes true at the end of the day, then it's still for the betterment (benefits) of everyone.




 No that's not the point, the picture I want you to see here is that bitcoin is gradually earning it's rightful place in the society, years ago there was nothing like politicians saying anything good about bitcoin, but today the story has changed, to the point that someone as big as Donald Trump is now building his political campaigns around bitcoin, saying some actual truth about bitcoin. Even though we can't actually be sure that he won't keep his promises if he wins the presidential election.

You have a point here. I don't know about you, but this shouldn't get me excited or motivate me more to invest in Bitcoin. My reason for making Bitcoin investment is because I understand its true potentials and the future benefits that I will be getting. At least I won't regret taking this part.

But I still stand on the ground that "Bitcoin and politics might not work in hand".

Now, you've just stated that " Trump is saying some actual truth about bitcoin", which I agree with that fact, but would you expect him to tell a lie in the first place knowing he can also get support form the Bitcoin community?. He is telling the entire Bitcoin community what they need to hear. That's how politics plays, and that is how it has been playing. See, we are currently in 2024. The politicians we see today are up-to-date with the current happenings, and they are fully aware of what the people needs. All his saying are manifestos, and Bitcoin happens to be one of the strategies.



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But it is a win situation to the bitcoin community because bitcoin is gaining more grounds, and people who has been less concerned about bitcoin in the past, are now showing interest. People who probably must have not heard about bitcoin are now becoming aware of it. So either ways bitcoin is not losing here, rather it is gaining!!

Yea. I think the term should be "creating more awareness". Even those who don't know how to use the internet are becoming aware just by listening to some of these Bitcoin related manifesto on the news.

But, my entire writeup was never about if politicians were creating awareness with Bitcoin or not. I am only trying to say that: a politicians interest in Bitcoin shouldn't be a motivation in making/continuing Bitcoin investment.

But I think I am done with the whole political thing, as I don't enjoy discussions based on that area.



And Morover politics/regulation has a big role to play too. Most countries today would have adopted bitcoin massively like El Salvador but due to government regulations and strick ban in bitcoin transaction has cause a decline in bitcoin adoption.

Permit me to join this conversation.

When you talk about adoption,  I really don't get the point you are trying to make here.

Mind you, there are only two countries that has adopted Bitcoin as a legal tender, you might want to do the research for yourself. Now, you see, when something is declared a legal tender, adoption process becomes automatic. The people won't have any choice, as it's already accepted as a form of payment for debts and other stuff.

Now, you should also understand that there are other countries that didn't ban Bitcoin (i.e Bitcoin is legal). We can't really compare the adoption rate of Bitcoin in these countries to that of the two countries where it is legal tender. Some of the countries where Bitcoin is legal are US, France, Japan, France, Germany, Denmark, etc as far as I can remember. So you can see that, ban on Bitcoin isn't just the only thing that limits it's adoption, though there are adoption in these regions, but we can't compare them to that of the two countries where it is legal tender.

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Just like Nigeria government delisted NGN from exchange shows that they have a role to play and even if they decide that all exchange should delist all Nigerian fiat P2P it will clamp down on all.

Even if the Nigerian Government remove the ban, we won't still get a fast and proper adoption, compare to when Bitcoin has been made a legal tender, and you should know by now that majority of the government won't consider that for the now, because they clearly don't understand how Bitcoin works and other excuses they might have.

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Government has place ban on bitcoin transaction in many countries and that has decrease people's interest in bitcoin investment/adsorption. So how can you say politics and regulations has no role to play. Why is El Salvador popular today ? Isn't it because of government regulations and making it massive for all?

It's actually based on the fact that Bitcoin is a legal tender in El Salvador. I doubt if their regulations on Bitcoin are up to 10% of what the US government has implement. El Salvador now see Bitcoin as a regular type of money (but in digital form), so regulations on Bitcoin shouldn't be too different from that of their fiat currency (that's if they have any).
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Today at 08:48:39 PM
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Today I have accumulated bitcoins and for me there is no other word than buying and continuing to hold. I have made purchases 72 times as I have exceeded a regular DCA that lasts about 1.5 years where every week I continue to buy even at different levels of execution. Different executions in the sense that the capital I spend sometimes varies from small or large amounts and it depends on how big the decline is that week.

From the previous post I think many people aim to hold their bitcoins until they are 70 years old. One side is quite good but today I think we should enjoy the results of our investments and maybe 55 years old is ideal to feel the results of the investments we make. However, it is up to each individual because some people regulate it in terms of 2 years or 5 years. But I think we don't miss our routine purchases every week before our satisfaction target is achieved.

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Today at 09:16:12 PM
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Today I have accumulated bitcoins and for me there is no other word than buying and continuing to hold. I have made purchases 72 times as I have exceeded a regular DCA that lasts about 1.5 years where every week I continue to buy even at different levels of execution. Different executions in the sense that the capital I spend sometimes varies from small or large amounts and it depends on how big the decline is that week.

From the previous post I think many people aim to hold their bitcoins until they are 70 years old. One side is quite good but today I think we should enjoy the results of our investments and maybe 55 years old is ideal to feel the results of the investments we make. However, it is up to each individual because some people regulate it in terms of 2 years or 5 years. But I think we don't miss our routine purchases every week before our satisfaction target is achieved.

Congratulations. I think news and good reports like this are what I always look forward to seeing. 1.5years(weekly) is quite incredible, and seeing that you've still got the passion to continue your accumulation, shows you are working with a well planned DCA strategy. I think your contributions to this thread can also be helpful to some of us hear, as you've spent more than a year already accumulating, which means you are acquainted with certain things already, I assume.

Well, I think our level of accumulation and strength to continue with the accumulation will also determine the age at which one can start enjoying. But since some of the helpful replies under this thread has been to address new investors (sort of), which 8-10years has been an ideal ( most mentioned) time of investment plan.

Personally, I will like to continue my own investment, as long as I can still work and get funds to invest. Retirement age sometimes might not be as we've planned.
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