Buy the DIP, and HODL!

[Merit.s]

My dear fellow PLEBS,

If you didn't buy the DIP yet, it's your opportunity to buy NOW before Bitcoin surges back to $120,000 NEXT WEEK. If you're a DCA investor, DOUBLE your bids and adjust them accordingly when Bitcoin is above $120,000 again.

Our objective is to stack more units of Bitcoin as much as possible during the DIP, and HODL.

There is no need thinking about the dip, if you are on your regular DCA purchase because that will make you not miss out any opportunity in the market. It's people that are waiting for bitcoin to dip to their preferred price before buying that are losing out. There is nothing to adjust as a regular DCA weekly investor because it's your discretionary income that will determine how much bitcoin that you will purchase. Also it doesn't matter what price bitcoin is or will be just keep on stacking to avoid limiting your bitcoin quantity in the long run.

[Stormisover]

I understand your confusion. However leet me try to break it down in the simplest way I can..... There are different methods people use to accumulate Bitcoin, some of this methods includes

• DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging): When you buy a fixed amount of Bitcoin at regular intervals, no matter the price.
• Buying the Dip: Here you wait for price drops and then buy more when Bitcoin is more cheaper.
• Lump Sum: You invest  a large amount into Bitcoin all at once.
• Earning of  Bitcoin: Through work or services( like earning through the signature campaigns and so on) or any other means instead of buying.......etc.

Your whole point is very well put. But you said "Buying dips: Here you have to wait for the price to drop and then buy more when Bitcoin is cheaper." I feel a little confused about this sentence.

As far as I know, buying dips is not for an investor but for a trader.

You are Very funny mate. I know you are a newbie and may never understand everybit of this but Buying the dip is not for only traders but for all. Infact buying the dip is one method or strategy that investors use to mitigate by buying more Bitcoin when the market is bearish.
The three strategy to buy Bitcoin by investor has been listed which are
1. Buying the dip
2. lump sum
3. DCA

All This three strategy are perfect strategy to build a better portfolio. An investor mostly capitalize on DCA which is investing every week or month. Provided they have discretion inc. they can also lump sum at ago when their is a bonus recieved from a place of work. And they can buy the dip from their discretion when Bitcoin is dip and it does not mean that they are traders since they are not buying the dip for taking quick profit.

Let me throw more light on this in a more simpler way and easier understanding to Rhow, from what I understood, buying the dip is not a problem rather it can be problematic when it becomes a primary strategy where by you have to wait for a dip before executing buying Bitcoin, but those who has considered buying the dip as a secondary strategy and not their primary strategy they are still called investors and not traders, as you said and you also need to understand that an investor who has been long gone in their accumulation process maybe some where close to an over accumulation can decide to be buying the dips and may not be buying as frequently as before, to back you up I will say that a no or low coiner who has the conception of waiting for a dip before buying Bitcoin we can called them traders because their interest is only to buy low and sell high.

[New Judgement]

Thank you sir for taking your time to educate me on this matter. You know I have only limited myself to the practice of the dca method. I haven't had the privilege to apply the theory three practice. Hopefully in the future when I get lump sum, I'll divide it into three parts and practicalise the three practice so I will be informed and gather knowledge. For now since I only depend on my monthly income, I will continue with my differ technique (DCA) since I like buying weekly.

DCA is not a deferring technique if you are buying whenever you get paid (such as weekly or whenever you figure out how much money you have remaining after figuring out your expenses).  However, if you receive a lump sum payment, like in my earlier example, then all of a sudden you might have 12 weeks or more of your regular DCA amount sitting in front of you. In that case, if you were to spread out some of your lump sum over time, then you would be deferring your buy, and there is nothing wrong with that.

So the kind of DCA that a guy does when buys bitcoin every time he gets paid, such as once a week, is not deferred.

however the kind of DCA that a guy does if he receives a lump sum, and maybe he decides to spread it out for 4 weeks or more, then that would be deferred,.

Let's go back to the example that I created.  Usually you plan to buy $100 every single week, except some weeks you either don't get paid enough or your expenses are higher, so you might ONLY have $60 to buy bitcoin in those weeks, and then there are some other weeks that your pay is very high or your expenses are very low, so you are able to buy up to $170 worth of bitcoin.

So after you had been engaging in that kind of system for several months, maybe 6 months, all of a sudden you go to work and you hear that on the next Tuesday you are going to receive an extra $1,500 because the boss is feeling generous or there was some kind of a profit sharing arrangement that had caused you to earn it... so yeah, you are very excited, yet you figured you had been being a bit skimpy on building your back up funds, so you decided to add $300 of that to put into your back up funds and then use the other $1,200 to buy bitcoin.. and since you want to test out each one of the systems with your bonus pay, you figure that within a day of your receiving the deposit, you are going to buy $400 right away (within that same week), and then you with the buying on dip portion, you are going to set up to buy $100 ever time the bitcoin price drops 4%, starting from 4% lower than whatever price that you end up making your first buy with the $400.  So then you figure that you would buy at 4%, 8%, 12% and 16%.  If the BTC price goes up rather than down, you will rethink the matter if the BTC price goes up 16% from whatever price you buy the $400 next week... otherwise you are just going to keep those buy orders set.  Regarding the DCA, you decide  that you are going to add $50 to each of your already scheduled weekly DCA buys no matter whatever the DCA amount that you buy for the week, you are going to add $50 for each of the next 8 weeks.

Something like this could happen at any time.  Let's say that you receive a gift or you are given a side job that is going to pay you some extra amount that is beyond what you usually make.

I think I have gotten the clue now, and the way you have simplified the explanation this time made it very easy for me to understand. Here is the recap of what I got from the explanation. DCA is the regular buy we do weekly or monthly when we receive our salary. While deferred technique happens in a situation were we receive extra income (lump sum) from work bonus or other side hustle, it could be from sales of inheritance, and we decide to split the money into different parts and invest it weekly or monthly as it suitable to the investor.

[Kelward]

My dear fellow PLEBS,

If you didn't buy the DIP yet, it's your opportunity to buy NOW before Bitcoin surges back to $120,000 NEXT WEEK. If you're a DCA investor, DOUBLE your bids and adjust them accordingly when Bitcoin is above $120,000 again.

Our objective is to stack more units of Bitcoin as much as possible during the DIP, and HODL.

There’s no point of being under pressure to accumulate during the dip, and most especially for the newbies who have been focused initially to consistently and persistently accumulate bitcoin either on weekly or monthly basis depending on when they’re able to figure out a discretionary income to accumulate and hold for the long term goal and gradually build up their portfolio. Bitcoin investment is a long term investment and depending on your level of preparedness to accumulate when dip occurs while you’ve already been accumulating gradually with your discretionary income in the past using through DCAing, then the dip will only be an added advantage to accumulate more because you’ve already prepared for this, but if not, no need to be under pressure to accumulate dip except you’ve already prepared for it because you need to put in place the right financial management skill before you use your whole earnings or money meant to be used for your other financial obligations to accumulate simply because you want to buy in the dip. The objective is to remain consistent in your accumulation and hold for the long term goal.

I agree with you that it's not necessary to put ourselves under pressure because we want to accumulate more during dip. Inasmuch as we're on our regular DCA method of accumulation which is working out fine we can stick to the plan, afterall it's the basis of DCA to maintain consistency no matter the current price of Bitcoin.

However if you can be able to cut down on one or some of your budgets in your discretionary funds you can add it to your accumulation funds to buy the dip. Serious consideration must be given to the budgeted allocation in your discretionary funds from where you plan to deduct funds to temporarily increase your DCA.  Adding additional funds to your DCA to buy the dip when your income is still the same is not a do or die affair so think smart before you can make such a move.

[SmartCharpa]

The longer that a member has been accumulating bitcoin, then he might not need to buy all the time anymore... so it can be difficult to know if a guy might have reached a point of accumulating enough or more than enough bitcoin.

Even the case of LGD2Business, he could have had been with an income of $30k per year and ONLY investing around $50 per week for the past 10 years, and he may have over 15 BTC if he had been ongoingly accumulating bitcoin at that rate.. so sometimes the size of the bitcoin stash can start to affect how aggressive a person might be in his bitcoin accumulation, and based on his BTC stash he might ONLY buy during dips or during dips of a certain size.

Sure, the more someone has been accumulating Bitcoin, the little pressure they will feel to continue buying at any time because they already own a big holdings. Those types of people can only accumulate more during dips because any small amount you put in today can turn into something big tomorrow. Your example shows how some people can end up with a lot of amount if they maintain to their plan.

Furthermore, some people who are still in the early stages of accumulation find it different because they have not reached that level, but buying using the DCA method is very important for newbies because it allows them to focus on building their portfolio without waiting for market to change. It all is based on where everyone is with their investments, those who have plenty enough will be able to wait for dips, while those who still want to grow their portfolio should continue buying according to their plan.

[Alonso_]

Thank you sir for taking your time to educate me on this matter. You know I have only limited myself to the practice of the dca method. I haven't had the privilege to apply the theory three practice. Hopefully in the future when I get lump sum, I'll divide it into three parts and practicalise the three practice so I will be informed and gather knowledge. For now since I only depend on my monthly income, I will continue with my differ technique (DCA) since I like buying weekly.

The technique you've been using so far is also fine for anyone, as the goal is to buy Bitcoin within your own means and with a method you can implement comfortably without any interruptions or other sacrifices. However, I'd like to remind you that you must be more consistent in implementing this method as long as you're not yet able to buy large amounts of Bitcoin at once. This is because it can only be done by people with a substantial weekly income and by business owners who consistently generate profits through their own work.

I think the best way to invest in Bitcoin is just having that methods that we feel is comfortable and sustainable to us and focusing on it, depending on the amount of discretionary income that we have available at our disposal, if we think that a strategy is good for us to keep buying and accumulating bitcoin then we could have a better chance of having a successful Bitcoin portfolio, and also trying to implement other financial strategies that could also support us have more discretionary income in our disposal to be able to stack up more bitcoin, I think we might not necessarily have a weekly income to be able to get started, and having a discretionary income could be enough for us to go that far in our bitcoin investment, we might possibly have a weekly income and don’t have a discretionary, then we can’t start, so it’s better to get started little by little with availability of discretionary income.

[Princess Leah]

Thank you sir for taking your time to educate me on this matter. You know I have only limited myself to the practice of the dca method. I haven't had the privilege to apply the theory three practice. Hopefully in the future when I get lump sum, I'll divide it into three parts and practicalise the three practice so I will be informed and gather knowledge. For now since I only depend on my monthly income, I will continue with my differ technique (DCA) since I like buying weekly.

The technique you've been using so far is also fine for anyone, as the goal is to buy Bitcoin within your own means and with a method you can implement comfortably without any interruptions or other sacrifices. However, I'd like to remind you that you must be more consistent in implementing this method as long as you're not yet able to buy large amounts of Bitcoin at once. This is because it can only be done by people with a substantial weekly income and by business owners who consistently generate profits through their own work.

I think the best way to invest in Bitcoin is just having that methods that we feel is comfortable and sustainable to us and focusing on it, depending on the amount of discretionary income that we have available at our disposal, if we think that a strategy is good for us to keep buying and accumulating bitcoin then we could have a better chance of having a successful Bitcoin portfolio, and also trying to implement other financial strategies that could also support us have more discretionary income in our disposal to be able to stack up more bitcoin, I think we might not necessarily have a weekly income to be able to get started, and having a discretionary income could be enough for us to go that far in our bitcoin investment, we might possibly have a weekly income and don’t have a discretionary, then we can’t start, so it’s better to get started little by little with availability of discretionary income.

Especially for newbies, most of them didn't accumulate much bitcoin is the past cause the felt it's a scam some because the price was too high for them yet now that they're now willing to invest on it they're now using strategies that would slow down their accumulation process you can't be a new investor and be Waiting for the dip before buying cause you'll definitely miss out on lots of opportunities and there's no two ways about it.

 Am not disregarding other strategies but for a newbie it best to start with the DCA then along the way, for those newbies who are low income earners it would be more "comfortable and sustainable" for them cause it would help them start gradually till they have more income to expand their discretionary.

[Miramax12]

I understand your confusion. However leet me try to break it down in the simplest way I can..... There are different methods people use to accumulate Bitcoin, some of this methods includes

• DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging): When you buy a fixed amount of Bitcoin at regular intervals, no matter the price.
• Buying the Dip: Here you wait for price drops and then buy more when Bitcoin is more cheaper.
• Lump Sum: You invest  a large amount into Bitcoin all at once.
• Earning of  Bitcoin: Through work or services( like earning through the signature campaigns and so on) or any other means instead of buying.......etc.

Your whole point is very well put. But you said "Buying dips: Here you have to wait for the price to drop and then buy more when Bitcoin is cheaper." I feel a little confused about this sentence.

As far as I know, buying dips is not for an investor but for a trader.

You are Very funny mate. I know you are a newbie and may never understand everybit of this but Buying the dip is not for only traders but for all. Infact buying the dip is one method or strategy that investors use to mitigate by buying more Bitcoin when the market is bearish.
The three strategy to buy Bitcoin by investor has been listed which are
1. Buying the dip
2. lump sum
3. DCA

All This three strategy are perfect strategy to build a better portfolio. An investor mostly capitalize on DCA which is investing every week or month. Provided they have discretion inc. they can also lump sum at ago when their is a bonus recieved from a place of work. And they can buy the dip from their discretion when Bitcoin is dip and it does not mean that they are traders since they are not buying the dip for taking quick profit.

Let me throw more light on this in a more simpler way and easier understanding to Rhow, from what I understood, buying the dip is not a problem rather it can be problematic when it becomes a primary strategy where by you have to wait for a dip before executing buying Bitcoin, but those who has considered buying the dip as a secondary strategy and not their primary strategy they are still called investors and not traders, as you said and you also need to understand that an investor who has been long gone in their accumulation process maybe some where close to an over accumulation can decide to be buying the dips and may not be buying as frequently as before, to back you up I will say that a no or low coiner who has the conception of waiting for a dip before buying Bitcoin we can called them traders because their interest is only to buy low and sell high.

A lot of people still think buying the dip" is strictly a trader’s move, but that’s not really the case. Long-term investors use that strategy too not to flip quick profits, but to lower their average cost and strengthen their position during bearish markets.
All three strategies DCA, lump sum, and dip buying can work depending on the person’s risk tolerance, income flow, and goals. It’s not one-size-fits-all. Some weeks you might DCA, some months you might sit out, and sometimes you might go all in if the market gives you a good entry. It’s all about having a plan and staying consistent.

[Stormisover]

DCA strategy is the mostly discussed strategy on this thread so i will not blame you if you think DCA is the only strategy used in accumulating bitcoin. There are three strategies you can use to accumulate bitcoin, and they are DCA strategy, buying the dip strategy, and lump sum strategy. Why it seems DCA strategy is the only bitcoin investment strategy is because DCA is the mostly discussed and adopted strategy because it gives both rich and poor investors a chance to start bitcoin investment even if bitcoin price is $200,000. There's no bitcoin strategies that is difficult to use in accumulating bitcoin, and if you know you can't make use of lump sum and buying the dip strategies to accumulate bitcoin, you better stick with DCA strategy so that you will not mess up your bitcoin investment.

Yes, I understand from the experts that DCA is the most discussed and accepted strategy.

The biggest reason for this is that rich and the poor can invest in the DCA method. There is no pressure. Because no matter how much the price of Bitcoin increases or decreases, it does not affect the investor's investment. The investor can set a specific goal and continue to invest. They do not have any trouble in taking long-term goals. On average, very good returns are obtained. For all these reasons,the DCA method seems to me to be the only investment method. Also, I think it is not right to invest with so much pressure at the beginning of the investment. If I gain more experience in investing, I can try other methods, but before that I will follow the DCA method.

To me, investing in other methods is like being under pressure. Although everyone knows that no matter how much the price of Bitcoin decreases, the price will recover. Still, I consider buying lamsum and dips to be uncertainty.

How can you say no matter how much the price of Bitcoin increases or decreases it doesn't affect investors investment?  this is not true, when the price increases or decreases it affects the investors investment.

There is no reason enough for you to say that DCA is the only investment method and this can be misleading.

It is not right at all to invest with any pressure at whatever level of your investment and not only in the beginning of your investment.

Gaining more experience in investing only doesn't qualifies you trying other methods what qualifies you is that those other methods suits your circumstances and it is not compulsory that you must use all the methods, you will only use the one that is convenient for you, and there is no pressure in investing with those other methods do the ones that will works for you without pressure.

I don't understand what you meant by considering buying lump sum not lamsum and dips to be uncertain, please can you explain further.

[justinlamode]

Let me throw more light on this in a more simpler way and easier understanding to Rhow, from what I understood, buying the dip is not a problem rather it can be problematic when it becomes a primary strategy where by you have to wait for a dip before executing buying Bitcoin, but those who has considered buying the dip as a secondary strategy and not their primary strategy they are still called investors and not traders, as you said and you also need to understand that an investor who has been long gone in their accumulation process maybe some where close to an over accumulation can decide to be buying the dips and may not be buying as frequently as before, to back you up I will say that a no or low coiner who has the conception of waiting for a dip before buying Bitcoin we can called them traders because their interest is only to buy low and sell high.

A lot of people still think buying the dip" is strictly a trader’s move, but that’s not really the case. Long-term investors use that strategy too not to flip quick profits, but to lower their average cost and strengthen their position during bearish markets.
All three strategies DCA, lump sum, and dip buying can work depending on the person’s risk tolerance, income flow, and goals. It’s not one-size-fits-all. Some weeks you might DCA, some months you might sit out, and sometimes you might go all in if the market gives you a good entry. It’s all about having a plan and staying consistent.

Stormisover gave a clear explanation of what buying the dip should be and from what I understood from him, buying the dip should not be your primary approach to Bitcoin accumulation rather, it should be combined with other methods. I agree with this because if you rely on buying the dips alone, you will end up in problem, either missing out on the market or develop FOMO where there is sharp move and end up making things a little complicated for yourself. Buy the dip is not a bad strategy, but combining with the DCA method will produce great results. You can be applying the DCA method will keeping small part of your discretionary income for aggressive accumulation should there be a dip. So while waiting for the dip, you are already buying and holding and will not miss out on the market no matter what happens.

[Jewan420]

A lot of people still think buying the dip" is strictly a trader’s move, but that’s not really the case. Long-term investors use that strategy too not to flip quick profits, but to lower their average cost and strengthen their position during bearish markets.
All three strategies DCA, lump sum, and dip buying can work depending on the person’s risk tolerance, income flow, and goals. It’s not one-size-fits-all. Some weeks you might DCA, some months you might sit out, and sometimes you might go all in if the market gives you a good entry. It’s all about having a plan and staying consistent.

Are you talking about stopping investment continuity and waiting for a certain market period? In this case, I will never agree with you and I will say that you are making a mistake and only delaying your investment.

The strategies you are mentioning are not wrong to use. But when you are a new investor and are in the initial investment journey, your best strategy is DCA. For investing in dips and lump sums, make sure that you have already met your goals or have accumulated enough Bitcoin. That is, if you are an experienced investor who has completed his investment journey, buying in dips and lump sums may be the right move.

But when you are in the initial investment journey, it is important for you to enter the market consistently. You should not even wait for a certain market period to be aggressive in investing. Buy Bitcoin as soon as you have prudent money and deposit it for the long term. In the initial stage, give importance to the DCA strategy, because this strategy is absolutely simple and more effective for you.

[Kagaru]

DCA strategy is the mostly discussed strategy on this thread so i will not blame you if you think DCA is the only strategy used in accumulating bitcoin. There are three strategies you can use to accumulate bitcoin, and they are DCA strategy, buying the dip strategy, and lump sum strategy. Why it seems DCA strategy is the only bitcoin investment strategy is because DCA is the mostly discussed and adopted strategy because it gives both rich and poor investors a chance to start bitcoin investment even if bitcoin price is $200,000. There's no bitcoin strategies that is difficult to use in accumulating bitcoin, and if you know you can't make use of lump sum and buying the dip strategies to accumulate bitcoin, you better stick with DCA strategy so that you will not mess up your bitcoin investment.

Yes, I understand from the experts that DCA is the most discussed and accepted strategy.

The biggest reason for this is that rich and the poor can invest in the DCA method. There is no pressure. Because no matter how much the price of Bitcoin increases or decreases, it does not affect the investor's investment. The investor can set a specific goal and continue to invest. They do not have any trouble in taking long-term goals. On average, very good returns are obtained. For all these reasons,the DCA method seems to me to be the only investment method. Also, I think it is not right to invest with so much pressure at the beginning of the investment. If I gain more experience in investing, I can try other methods, but before that I will follow the DCA method.

To me, investing in other methods is like being under pressure. Although everyone knows that no matter how much the price of Bitcoin decreases, the price will recover. Still, I consider buying lamsum and dips to be uncertainty.

How can you say no matter how much the price of Bitcoin increases or decreases it doesn't affect investors investment?  this is not true, when the price increases or decreases it affects the investors investment.

There is no reason enough for you to say that DCA is the only investment method and this can be misleading.

It is not right at all to invest with any pressure at whatever level of your investment and not only in the beginning of your investment.

Gaining more experience in investing only doesn't qualifies you trying other methods what qualifies you is that those other methods suits your circumstances and it is not compulsory that you must use all the methods, you will only use the one that is convenient for you, and there is no pressure in investing with those other methods do the ones that will works for you without pressure.

I don't understand what you meant by considering buying lump sum not lamsum and dips to be uncertain, please can you explain further.

You are correct that price fluctuations will have an influence on the portfolio of an investor at any given time including in DCA. By that most people mean that DCA will minimise the emotional effect since you are not purchasing in a lump sum. It does not insulate you against profits or losses, but it helps level volatility, and may simplify long-term planning.

Following lump sum and buying the dips, the risk has been in the form of uncertainty that is the timing risk. A single bulk purchase means you are exposed to the risk of making a purchase at a high point whereas DCA diversifies the price. But you are correct, it is not necessarily uncertain, it is only riskier when market timing is wrong.

I also do not disagree that DCA is not the only method. This is based on what you are seeking to achieve, the level of risk and the situation. Other investors are attracted to lump sum or tactical buying, as it can offer higher returns when done at the right time, and it does not need to be a stressful experience when done with due caution. The trick is to select an approach that best suits you and leave it without allowing emotions to influence decision making.

[HajiBagi]

My dear fellow PLEBS,

If you didn't buy the DIP yet, it's your opportunity to buy NOW before Bitcoin surges back to $120,000 NEXT WEEK. If you're a DCA investor, DOUBLE your bids and adjust them accordingly when Bitcoin is above $120,000 again.

Our objective is to stack more units of Bitcoin as much as possible during the DIP, and HODL.

This opportunity is for those awaiting for buy the dip. For DCA investors, it is not necessary to double your bid, as you are already committed to your DCA strategy. Stick to your plan to not put pressure when buying. The current opportunity is only for those waiting for buying at the dip, the price of Bitcoin has dropped, and taking advantage of this opportunity will benefit those who are waiting for it. There are those who are still waiting for the price to drop further, which is a bad decision, they may believe the price will drop only to be surprised when it rises back to $120k or above next week.

[Mr_Brilliant$]

Thank you sir for taking your time to educate me on this matter. You know I have only limited myself to the practice of the dca method. I haven't had the privilege to apply the theory three practice. Hopefully in the future when I get lump sum, I'll divide it into three parts and practicalise the three practice so I will be informed and gather knowledge. For now since I only depend on my monthly income, I will continue with my differ technique (DCA) since I like buying weekly.

The technique you've been using so far is also fine for anyone, as the goal is to buy Bitcoin within your own means and with a method you can implement comfortably without any interruptions or other sacrifices. However, I'd like to remind you that you must be more consistent in implementing this method as long as you're not yet able to buy large amounts of Bitcoin at once. This is because it can only be done by people with a substantial weekly income and by business owners who consistently generate profits through their own work.

I think the best way to invest in Bitcoin is just having that methods that we feel is comfortable and sustainable to us and focusing on it, depending on the amount of discretionary income that we have available at our disposal, if we think that a strategy is good for us to keep buying and accumulating bitcoin then we could have a better chance of having a successful Bitcoin portfolio, and also trying to implement other financial strategies that could also support us have more discretionary income in our disposal to be able to stack up more bitcoin, I think we might not necessarily have a weekly income to be able to get started, and having a discretionary income could be enough for us to go that far in our bitcoin investment, we might possibly have a weekly income and don’t have a discretionary, then we can’t start, so it’s better to get started little by little with availability of discretionary income.

Am not disregarding other strategies but for a newbie it best to start with the DCA then along the way, for those newbies who are low income earners it would be more "comfortable and sustainable" for them cause it would help them start gradually till they have more income to expand their discretionary.

Yes there might be plenty of strategies out there that can work in their own way, but I will advise when someone is just coming in fresh, it makes more sense to keep things simple and less stressful with DCA...  DCA kind of forces discipline without putting too much weight on the person pocket, and that will help any newbie at his early stage...  TBH, What a neebie needs at first is just something that allows them to build the habit of stacking little by little without the fear of, did I buy at the wrong time? Stuff like that..

Other methods will likely come with pressure and risks that can shake someone who is still learning…

And honestly, if you have already started with DCA, it is like using salt in your food, once you have tasted how easy and natural it feels, you would not even want to stop… You will just keep adding a little more each time, and before you know it, you have built something massive without even realizing how consistent you have been.. That is why i would say, for any newbie, start there first, then experiment with other approaches later if you want… But won’t advise…

[PremiumcryptoHub]

I saw this post in my LB and though it would be a source of encouragement to lots of people here to find ways to make discretionary income available even if it means taking a side hustle and start investing instead of just waiting until whenever you would start having discretionary income to invest into bitcoin, you can actually do more to raise such income that you would use to invest into bitcoin just like this guy. Another remarkable thing is his consistency for a long period of time, doing the same thing over and over again and investing the proceeds into bitcoin, this is an evidence of great dedication, commitment and consistency in his accumulation journey which is required of anyone who wishes to be successful in his investment into bitcoin.

Hitting almost 1 Bitcoin in just 2 years? He must be making a lot of money from gathering disposal cans and reselling them to have been able to accumulate such an amount. Or maybe he's not actually investing with his discretionary income alone. Yeah maybe sticked to a consistent DCA but definitely not with his discretionary income alone, which can be a very dangerous approach for investors. Sure we can learn a thing or two from the man's story, like the consistency and sticking to a regular DCA, but let's not be to aggressive with our accumulation to the extent that we act or become ignorant of things that really matters, like taking care of essential expenses, setting aside funds for backup and Investing only with our discretionary income. Because some investors after seeing these kind of posts, gets overly motivated, aggressive and obsessed with reaching a sizable amount sooner, it's always crucial to prioritize setting and sticking to a realistic approach as this is the key to actually reaching your financial goals.

It may not be impossible to get a Bitcoin in just 2 years, but the statement mentioned here is wrong because it is mentioned that this Brazilian man is close to earning almost one bitcoin in two years by collecting cans. How amazing is it that this man quietly collected Bitcoin, away from the hustle and bustle of institutional investors and the Treasury, and in fact a fighting spirit has blossomed within him. As far as I know this person already has a well-known nickname: Crypto Scrapper. By the way, check out this post of his on how he raised money and how he made $7.50 selling cans. Maybe he continued his struggle like this every day and was able to sell all the cans he found and turn them into Bitcoin. Looking at the signs of his struggle, it seems that he collects only these cans from all over his city. Moreover, the Brazilian has already proven that the rumors are false and he has mentioned that he is still far from acquiring one Bitcoin and Oliveira current goal is to reach 0.1 Bitcoin.

[Lembo69]

My dear fellow PLEBS,

If you didn't buy the DIP yet, it's your opportunity to buy NOW before Bitcoin surges back to $120,000 NEXT WEEK. If you're a DCA investor, DOUBLE your bids and adjust them accordingly when Bitcoin is above $120,000 again.

Our objective is to stack more units of Bitcoin as much as possible during the DIP, and HODL.

This opportunity is for those awaiting for buy the dip. For DCA investors, it is not necessary to double your bid, as you are already committed to your DCA strategy. Stick to your plan to not put pressure when buying. The current opportunity is only for those waiting for buying at the dip, the price of Bitcoin has dropped, and taking advantage of this opportunity will benefit those who are waiting for it. There are those who are still waiting for the price to drop further, which is a bad decision, they may believe the price will drop only to be surprised when it rises back to $120k or above next week.

Kagaru DCA strategy is a step-by-step investment. What does it matter if it is a one-time investment? The DCA strategy is a method that works like a beard scale with the decrease and increase of the market price. This DCA strategy is also for those who are actually interested in investing but do not have much money. It is not unreasonable to adopt the DCA strategy even if you say to buy a dip or if the price of Bitcoin reaches a high price. As you understand, investors will hesitate.
A new investor starts with the DCA strategy and when he is able to increase his portfolio, he makes a long-term plan. Therefore, whether it is a one-time investment or whatever, adopting the DCA strategy is also an investment opportunity.

[Joeboy]

That combo approach you are doing immediate partial buy,

Miramax12 you have lots of of explanations to do here because you ain't really making any sense to me with what you are saying here. What do you mean by combo approach and immediate partial buy? I haven't heard anything about immediate partial buy since I started bitcoin investment. How does partial buy work? Is either you are buying bitcoin or you are not. I don't really understand were immediate partial buy is coming from, how do you do that please?

I stand to be corrected, but what  I think what Miramax12 was trying to explain kind makes sense if we see it from this perspective (It is not however advisable for beginner, beginners should stick to DCA approach). Many experienced investors that I follow, makes use of the combo approach in their accumulation journey, it has to do with  combining different strategies(DCA, Lump sum, Buying the Dip) together overtime, instead of sticking to one method of accumulating Bitcoin.

The immediate partial buy is still a part of combo approach this because in immediate partial buy, instead of lump suming( putting in all your money at once),  you use part of your Discretionary income to buy a portion of Bitcoin. Then the rest of your Discretionary income is then used for ur DCA buys, and some reserved for your conditional buys, anytime the market dips(buying the dip).

Here is a simple example to my explanation.
For example, your Discretionary income is $50, so instead of investing the whole $50 into Bitcoin at once(Lump sum). You use $20 to Lump sum and then $20 for you DCA buys and then keep the remaining $10 for  you to accumulate more anytime the market dips.

[Rockstarguy]

There is no need thinking about the dip, if you are on your regular DCA purchase because that will make you not miss out any opportunity in the market. It's people that are waiting for bitcoin to dip to their preferred price before buying that are losing out. There is nothing to adjust as a regular DCA weekly investor because it's your discretionary income that will determine how much bitcoin that you will purchase. Also it doesn't matter what price bitcoin is or will be just keep on stacking to avoid limiting your bitcoin quantity in the long run.

Those who normally use the DCA method to invest in Bitcoin don't need to be told to buy Bitcoin during a dip because it is an opportunity they wouldn't want to miss. DCA investors buy Bitcoin at all times, irrespective of the price of Bitcoin.
As for those who are fond of waiting for the dip to buy Bitcoin, I see them as non-serious because even if the dip takes place, they still become confused about it, thinking it is not yet the dip they need to buy Bitcoin. Real Bitcoin investors just invest continuously as long as the money is available.

[JayJuanGee]

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Hitting almost 1 Bitcoin in just 2 years? He must be making a lot of money from gathering disposal cans and reselling them to have been able to accumulate such an amount. Or maybe he's not actually investing with his discretionary income alone. Yeah maybe sticked to a consistent DCA but definitely not with his discretionary income alone, which can be a very dangerous approach for investors. Sure we can learn a thing or two from the man's story, like the consistency and sticking to a regular DCA, but let's not be to aggressive with our accumulation to the extent that we act or become ignorant of things that really matters, like taking care of essential expenses, setting aside funds for backup and Investing only with our discretionary income. Because some investors after seeing these kind of posts, gets overly motivated, aggressive and obsessed with reaching a sizable amount sooner, it's always crucial to prioritize setting and sticking to a realistic approach as this is the key to actually reaching your financial goals.

We could do a quickie search and see that if a guy had dedicated to buying $440 per week in bitcoin between 4/11/2023 and 4/11/2025, he would have invested slightly more than $46k, and he would have had gotten to 1 BTC.

Starting with investing $440 per week into bitcoin now would likely take longer than 5 years to reach one bitcoin.

There can sometimes be ways to hustle by identifying a way to work hard, potentially even suffer for a while, and to put yourself into a better place.  Of course there are needs to safeguard your investment too.

If a person has a regular job that covers all of his expenses, and let's say that he had $430 per month  or $100 per week of discretionary income.

On the side the guy starts to collect and to sell cans, so his selling of cans increased his discretionary income.  It might have had increased some of his costs too, so for example, he has to drive around (and use gas - although in one of the pictures I see him on a bicycle which would reduce costs in some ways but maybe increase costs in other ways) and maybe there are other costs that are involved, so increasing the activity of collecting cans in this case might not be all purely additional discretionary income since some of his expenses might have gone up.

I agree with your point that there may well be more going on behind the story, and even collecting cans for the past two year, it seems that it might be difficult to clear around $440 per week for two years straight, even though surely there sometimes are certain kind of ways that guys can earn extra money on a consistent basis, and they might not realize or have had properly done the calculations, like you suggest, and which is reasonable to calculate some of the specifics to see if the story is believable and if so, how much extra discretionary income it would need to generate in order to be able to reach such levels of bitcoin accumulation.

Actually, there sometimes can be people in certain kinds of industries that have mediocre to normal levels of pay, yet every once in a while through their work, they might get lucky in the kind of contract that they enter into or that certain jobs end up being quite lucrative and profitable... and merely the person was in the right place at the right time to land a certain lucrative job that he had thought was otherwise beyond his capabilities... yet he was in the right place at the right time and he had the proper training (or resources) to be able to carry out the job.

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It is not often people distinguish between "routine" DCA and what happens when you’re working with a lump sum. Makes a lot of sense when you explain it that way.
That combo approach you are doing immediate partial buy, conditional dip buys, and boosting your weekly DCA is actually really smart. It gives you structure but still leaves room for the market to come to you. Most people either go all in too fast or overthink and miss their windows entirely.

Sometimes we can employ techniques and strategies that we believe to be moderate and reasonable based on some new circumstances, such as receiving a $1,500 bonus.  Yet at the same time, we might want to be careful to NOT over think the matter, since it may well be better to just DCA, yet every once in a while some adjustments can be made and we can recognize the trade-offs that we are making when we deviate from DCA and we might supplement with lump sum buying and/or buying on the dip, and maybe we might consider that since we are already doing $100 in DCA every week, then maybe it doesn't make any sense to add more to our DCA, but instead we think that with our extra money will ONLY focus on the two other strategies - even though there are risks.. so for example, if we put $1,200 into buying right away, then the BTC price goes down, then we might feel bad that we could have had gotten more if we had waited, and if we dedicate $1,200 towards buying the dip, but then the BTC price does not dip enough to fill any of our orders, then we might feel that we did not treat the situation in a way that would help us to attempt to be mostly emotionally neutral about whatever way that the BTC price might go.

That combo approach you are doing immediate partial buy,

Miramax12 you have lots of of explanations to do here because you ain't really making any sense to me with what you are saying here. What do you mean by combo approach and immediate partial buy? I haven't heard anything about immediate partial buy since I started bitcoin investment. How does partial buy work? Is either you are buying bitcoin or you are not. I don't really understand were immediate partial buy is coming from, how do you do that please?

You probably need to read the underlying posts within Miramax12's response, since he seemed to have had been referring to the description within one of my earlier posts that was within the part he cited...  Without context Miramax12's post might not make very much sense.

I saw this post in my LB and though it would be a source of encouragement to lots of people here to find ways to make discretionary income available even if it means taking a side hustle and start investing instead of just waiting until whenever you would start having discretionary income to invest into bitcoin, you can actually do more to raise such income that you would use to invest into bitcoin just like this guy. Another remarkable thing is his consistency for a long period of time, doing the same thing over and over again and investing the proceeds into bitcoin, this is an evidence of great dedication, commitment and consistency in his accumulation journey which is required of anyone who wishes to be successful in his investment into bitcoin.

Hitting almost 1 Bitcoin in just 2 years? He must be making a lot of money from gathering disposal cans and reselling them to have been able to accumulate such an amount. Or maybe he's not actually investing with his discretionary income alone. Yeah maybe sticked to a consistent DCA but definitely not with his discretionary income alone, which can be a very dangerous approach for investors. Sure we can learn a thing or two from the man's story, like the consistency and sticking to a regular DCA, but let's not be to aggressive with our accumulation to the extent that we act or become ignorant of things that really matters, like taking care of essential expenses, setting aside funds for backup and Investing only with our discretionary income. Because some investors after seeing these kind of posts, gets overly motivated, aggressive and obsessed with reaching a sizable amount sooner, it's always crucial to prioritize setting and sticking to a realistic approach as this is the key to actually reaching your financial goals.

It may not be impossible to get a Bitcoin in just 2 years, but the statement mentioned here is wrong because it is mentioned that this Brazilian man is close to earning almost one bitcoin in two years by collecting cans. How amazing is it that this man quietly collected Bitcoin, away from the hustle and bustle of institutional investors and the Treasury, and in fact a fighting spirit has blossomed within him. As far as I know this person already has a well-known nickname: Crypto Scrapper. By the way, check out this post of his on how he raised money and how he made $7.50 selling cans. Maybe he continued his struggle like this every day and was able to sell all the cans he found and turn them into Bitcoin. Looking at the signs of his struggle, it seems that he collects only these cans from all over his city. Moreover, the Brazilian has already proven that the rumors are false and he has mentioned that he is still far from acquiring one Bitcoin and Oliveira current goal is to reach 0.1 Bitcoin.

This makes more sense, since can collecting does not tend to be very lucrative. So with my earlier example, a guy collecting $44 per week and using that $44 per week to buy bitcoin between April 2023 and April 2025 would have gotten him up to 0.1BTC within those two years.

At that rate, he will likely never reach a whole bitcoin, unless he is able to increase his income through other means or more lucrative work.

Yet, he does not necessarily need to reach a whole bitcoin in order to be well off. In 15 years, he may well ONLY need around 0.35 BTC in order to have an annual income of $40k, which surly is a large amount, and even with merely another 8 years if he were able to get up to 0.3 BTC, then that would products something like $12k per year.. of passive income.. which surely would not be a bad place to be after 10-ish years of collecting cans.  He probably would be updating his life style prior to then.

[Derekfunds]

My dear fellow PLEBS,

If you didn't buy the DIP yet, it's your opportunity to buy NOW before Bitcoin surges back to $120,000 NEXT WEEK. If you're a DCA investor, DOUBLE your bids and adjust them accordingly when Bitcoin is above $120,000 again.

Our objective is to stack more units of Bitcoin as much as possible during the DIP, and HODL.

This opportunity is for those awaiting for buy the dip. For DCA investors, it is not necessary to double your bid, as you are already committed to your DCA strategy. Stick to your plan to not put pressure when buying. The current opportunity is only for those waiting for buying at the dip, the price of Bitcoin has dropped, and taking advantage of this opportunity will benefit those who are waiting for it. There are those who are still waiting for the price to drop further, which is a bad decision, they may believe the price will drop only to be surprised when it rises back to $120k or above next week.

I disagree with the bold words because it is not true the opportunity is for everyone who is ready and willing to invest in Bitcoin and not only for people that is waiting for the Dip and sometimes the people who wait for the Dip don't invest or seize the opportunity when they see it but those who are ready and willing to invest will definitely seize the opportunity when it will come. Whether you are using the DCA method that is investing at any given price of the market that doesn't mean the Dip is not for the person (investor) unless the investor doesn't prepare before dip comes and it is not advisable to take advantage of the dip when you didn't prepare for it.