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April 20, 2019, 08:54:30 PM
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the aim of the campaıngs are to make post as much as people can, and it has 20 post lımıt, how you can call that as spam, if you call that as spam so ban all sıgnature campaıngs, there is big difference between markettıng and spammıng, also it has tiny line between them, but you cant call dırectly spam to these campaıngs.
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April 20, 2019, 08:58:27 PM
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https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1119228178743083009
YoBit Signature Campaign (BitcoinTalk): https://yobit.net/en/signature/  ★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day).

YoBit exchange organized a Signature Campaign at our forum. They pay 20 posts per day. Forum will be filled with spam. Here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310031;sa=showPosts

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more


The forum is filled with them, friend.  People are being paid to post.

Admin is well aware of this issue.
Like Vod said admin is awere of this issue and the reason why the Yobit set the max 20 daily posts was because thats how the run their previous campaign back in the year 2015 . I guess they are not aware of the present situation of the forum and I think you should have send the person in charge of their PMs first before creating this thread.
Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

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April 20, 2019, 09:00:50 PM
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Like Vod said admin is awere of this issue and the reason why the Yobit set the max 20 daily posts was because thats how the run their previous campaign back in the year 2015 . I guess they are not aware of the present situation of the forum and I think you should have send the person in charge of their PMs first before creating this thread.
Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

There we go - pretty decent idea. Yobit (or any campaign for that matter perhaps?) should count a maximum of 1 payable post per 30 minutes or maybe 3 per hour (1 every 20 minutes). Until then you'll have the farmers make those "post short-round bursts".
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April 20, 2019, 09:10:08 PM
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and you can not ban or give negatif trust to anybody for his/her signature.
The line of trust can be very thin for some forum users so it can happen to anyone to get a neg.

If the supply of the account sellers stays up the forum will be flushed with posts for quite some time.

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April 21, 2019, 02:26:20 AM
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They should appoint a campaign manager before it's too late. I did not know Yobit is a proven scam exchange as last week I cashed out my BTC lying for a year and they sent me the coins and before that also I've withdrawn big amounts and they paid. I thought that people complaining about other exchanges like hitbtc  also complain about yobit as many withdrawals are kept on hold by these exchanges. Yobit is a scam exchange now?

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April 21, 2019, 02:37:46 AM
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Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

There we go - pretty decent idea. Yobit (or any campaign for that matter perhaps?) should count a maximum of 1 payable post per 30 minutes or maybe 3 per hour (1 every 20 minutes).
That would be a great idea. I'm sure the 30 minute gap for every post helps a lot to retain the good quality of a particular post (assuming that he is not a shitposter from the first place). Doing such thing definitely gives your brain a rest even only for a while and have some time to gather new ideas and motivation to post again. Are the spammers out there aware of a robot-like feeling every time they do continuous posting, what do you think? Then why they still do it despite of the bad feeling? Oh I forgot! Mainly because of money Roll Eyes.

If we think that 30 min. gap is considerably helpful, what more of a 1 hr. gap per post? What do you think?
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April 21, 2019, 04:11:49 AM
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You are wrong.
Time limit between two posts does not make sure anything about post quality. There are two possible results:
- For real users, it is sure that the 30-minute gap, for example, might make sense because it will force them to spend more time to read more posts, more topics, maybe just to get information for their own interests in the meantime to pass the 30-minute gap, and they might have more time to brainstorm and compose their posts.
- For shitty posters, it does not result in any changes in post quality. They simply post their first post, then play games, and 30 minutes later come back to show their shit again, repeatedly till they hit post quota.
However, such the rule on time-gap between posts is certainly reduce spam, and it makes sense.
I'm sure the 30 minute gap for every post helps a lot to retain the good quality of a particular post (assuming that he is not a shitposter from the first place). Doing such thing definitely gives your brain a rest even only for a while and have some time to gather new ideas and motivation to post again. Are the spammers out there aware of a robot-like feeling every time they do continuous posting, what do you think? Then why they still do it despite of the bad feeling? Oh I forgot! Mainly because of money Roll Eyes.

If we think that 30 min. gap is considerably helpful, what more of a 1 hr. gap per post? What do you think?

It would slow things down at least a bit - maybe just enough so that the incentive of posting 20 replies a day across multiple accounts is gone. 30 minutes to earn $1? Would spammers still chase that? I reckon some would but for many, the interest/allure of quick money is gone. Also if you're only being paid for 1 post every 30 minutes - you *might as-well* make it a constructive post to be paid for - would users not tend towards this conclusion? It would be easier to spot the fluff posters too in this case? (those who continue bullshit posting even if they are paid one post/30 minutes.)
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April 21, 2019, 08:09:20 AM
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- For shitty posters, it does not result in any changes in post quality. They simply post their first post, then play games, and 30 minutes later come back to show their shit again, repeatedly till they hit post quota.
It would slow things down at least a bit
I'm not convinced it would. We already know that many spammers save a bunch of pre-written posts as drafts or in notepad, and then just burst paste and post them as required to hit their posting target for that day/week/whatever. If would be fairly easy to write a script to do this for you (I suspect many already use such a script), and then just add in a 30 minute delay between posts. And if that's too complicated, then they don't even have to do that - they can just write each reply in a new tab, and then they only have to click "post" every 30 minutes. A script to do that is completely trivial.

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April 21, 2019, 08:09:27 AM
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Surprised more people aren't handing out neg trusts to posters in the Yobit Signature campaign. 
I think the instruction not to do that came from theymos himself. Trust ratings should no longer be handled out based on the quality of a post, instead if the post breaks forum rules you report it and let the moderators handle it.

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April 21, 2019, 08:10:08 AM
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May simply cancel signature companies on the forum.
Then there will be no spam.
There will be one silence.

That's a good idea. I am in favor of banning all the signature campaigns in this forum. That will definitely bring down the amount of spam. And no one can accuse anyone of bias. But I don't want selective justice. Either all the signature campaigns that doesn't violate the forum policies must be allowed, or all of them must be banned irrespective of the number of participants.

Let Theymos decide. But my opinion is that none of the sig campaigns are doing any good for this forum.
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April 21, 2019, 09:26:54 AM
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May simply cancel signature companies on the forum.
Then there will be no spam.
There will be one silence.

That's a good idea. I am in favor of banning all the signature campaigns in this forum. That will definitely bring down the amount of spam. And no one can accuse anyone of bias. But I don't want selective justice. Either all the signature campaigns that doesn't violate the forum policies must be allowed, or all of them must be banned irrespective of the number of participants.

Let Theymos decide. But my opinion is that none of the sig campaigns are doing any good for this forum.

Solve spam or not spam ...
I think not enough moderators on the forum

Stop using this thread to bump your post count. Your post history looks terrible.
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April 21, 2019, 09:41:05 AM
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This is why I wrote this
Yobit started their new campaign days ago, and the forum has went crazy with their campaigns, not only their supporters, bounty hunters, but also members whom are not their supporters. In my opinion, we've all known well about Yobit and their newest campaign, so it is likely right time to stop discussing in current threads as well as stop creating new threads to discuss about it. I hope that my thread is the last one open Yobit-related discussion (just hope).

The more topics, posts we discuss in Meta, the more free opportunities for their supporters to join and get legal posts to reach their post-quota, without fears or risks of being reported and deleted.
Just let them go, and staffs will act appropriately with the campaign, at the right time.
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April 21, 2019, 10:36:42 AM
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Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

There we go - pretty decent idea. Yobit (or any campaign for that matter perhaps?) should count a maximum of 1 payable post per 30 minutes or maybe 3 per hour (1 every 20 minutes).
That would be a great idea.

I massively doubt they're going to allocate the amount of time needed to check that. Considering the number of people who've piled in they'd need to tie up an employee not too far off full time. I'd be very interested to know what resources they have chucked at it. They may only rely on complaints or just keep going without looking at anything until it reaches a critical mass of annoyance.
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April 21, 2019, 11:01:28 AM
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May simply cancel signature companies on the forum.
Then there will be no spam.
There will be one silence.


Maybe silence is better.

Unfortunately, there are few useful messages in this forum  to the community today.
Messages in this forum usually consist of unnecessary battles and speculations.

Therefore, many older members, he is engaged in raising the awareness of people by sharing the valuable information he has found in this dump with his local forum.

perhaps silence, it will facilitate our work.

I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.
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April 21, 2019, 11:13:49 AM
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I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.

He said.
Not a lot of interesting posts today.
Posts are fights & speculations.
Then it is drunk giberrish.

Last line is basically "stfu" as far as I am concerned Cheesy

Back to the topic:

Some german users who signed up for Yobit and got less than their actual post count paid asked for an explanation and got banned without an answer.

This is perhaps going to backfire for Yobit. Not like they ever had a good rep' anyway.
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April 21, 2019, 11:22:39 AM
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I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.

Unfotunately today there is only a few usefull message in this forum.
The others are usually speculative. Not only today ist is usually same.
So most of the old members are finding e few valuable information here and sharing these in their local forums.
Because of this, I said "silence is better", maybe more useful than garbage.

Note: I'm not superman Smiley
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April 21, 2019, 11:24:44 AM
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I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.

I've been there before. He's might tryin to say is:

"Just simply cancel all signature campaign here in bitcointalk so that there will be peace here in bitcointalk!" Lmao.

This Shitposter user should ban for the meantime. Or it will be great if permanent ban.

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April 21, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
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snip

Now that you rewrote it you can delete the previous non sense maybe?
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I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.
Hmmm...is this trick question?

Ok, I think I got this. Zz is using notepad to write posts and then they copy/paste them here. He messed up and copied 3, maybe 4 posts and accidentally posted it as one. What you are looking for are threads where parts of this post should have been posted.

This is probably for "John Mcafee's satoshi" thread:
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Maybe silence is better.
Insert in any spam related thread:
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Unfortunately, there are few useful messages in this forum  to the community today.
For drama threads:
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Messages in this forum usually consist of unnecessary battles and speculations.
This is end and beginning of new post:
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perhaps silence, it will facilitate our work.

Got to fix this one first:
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Therefore, many older members, he is engaged in raising the awareness of people by sharing the valuable information he has found in this dump with his local forum.
Nah...still nothing.
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Now that you rewrote it you can delete the previous non sense maybe?

too late to delete, because it was quoted. Smiley
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