Yobit spam on the forum

[safar1980]

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1119228178743083009
YoBit Signature Campaign (BitcoinTalk): https://yobit.net/en/signature/  ★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day).

YoBit exchange organized a Signature Campaign at our forum. They pay 20 posts per day. Forum will be filled with spam. Here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310031;sa=showPosts

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

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[Vod]

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1119228178743083009
YoBit Signature Campaign (BitcoinTalk): https://yobit.net/en/signature/  ★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day).

YoBit exchange organized a Signature Campaign at our forum. They pay 20 posts per day. Forum will be filled with spam. Here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310031;sa=showPosts

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

The forum is filled with them, friend.  People are being paid to post.

Admin is well aware of this issue.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Unfortunately there is not much anyone can do about it, as long as they follow the forum rules.

[safar1980]

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1119228178743083009
YoBit Signature Campaign (BitcoinTalk): https://yobit.net/en/signature/  ★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day).

YoBit exchange organized a Signature Campaign at our forum. They pay 20 posts per day. Forum will be filled with spam. Here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310031;sa=showPosts

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

The forum is filled with them, friend.  People are being paid to post.

Admin is well aware of this issue.

I have nothing against good and quality posts. If the user can write 140 quality posts per week, it is not a problem.  But when the user after a long break starts to spam, it should be regulated.

[bernardos]

Just report anything that you dont think is in accordance with forum rules and I am sure many other users will do the same. Unfortunately there are no rules in place when it comes to daily post count so users can pretty much post any number of posts.

[Virtual miner]

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1119228178743083009
YoBit Signature Campaign (BitcoinTalk): https://yobit.net/en/signature/  ★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day).

YoBit exchange organized a Signature Campaign at our forum. They pay 20 posts per day. Forum will be filled with spam. Here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310031;sa=showPosts

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

As far as of now Yobit is working very well within the rules of the forum. The problem is actually being created by spam users like the one you have shown( although I think he will soon be banned as he is violating Yobit Guidelines). To stop this yobit should limit up the number of participants they are willing to accept in their campaign and only then they would be able to regulate spam content although that being said test checking 140 posts per participant in a week to ensure that its a contributing reply seems like an impossible task for any human manager. But this is for the second time by yobit so they must have thought of this before launching this campaign. Let's wait how it turns out.

[gentlemand]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898552;sa=showPosts

20 posts in 45 minutes.

At least they're cutting out the lower ranks but there are still plenty of nothing accounts from the old days that do qualify. I hope the mods do a swift job on this because Yobit back in the day was a right old blight.

[pandukelana2712]

it should be regulated.

Forum already has rules. And it works 24/7. I'm sure, moderator can delete the spam post. Plus, DT members will paint them, if they get red trust, they will be rejected from the campaign
And if you found Sr. Member, Hero, and Legend wearing yobit signature making spam, just report them.

Btw, I'm curious about your own posts. Most of your posts are one-liner post.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Are they paying red tagged users also? If no then tagging every user seen wearing the signature and majority of their post are just off topic or spam can reduce their effect on the forum. I don't have a problem with getting paid for quality contribution but to me any user accepting a payment to spam forum doesn't value the forum and can't be trusted.

Read the number one Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign. these guys need to make at least 100post to receive something reasonable. PASS

[TryNinja]

Are they paying red tagged users also? If no then tagging every user seen wearing the signature and majority of their post are just off topic or spam can reduce their effect on the forum. I don't have a problem with getting paid for quality contribution but to me any user accepting a payment to spam forum doesn't value the forum and can't be trusted.

Read number 1  Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign.  these guys need to make at least 100post to receive something reasonable. PASS

Nope.

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/

But we can't tag them anymore. Remember what theymos said? No more tagging users just because of their posting behavior - that's not what the trust system was made for.

[pandukelana2712]

Are they paying red tagged users also? If no then tagging every user seen wearing the signature and majority of their post are just off topic or spam can reduce their effect on the forum. I don't have a problem with getting paid for quality contribution but to me any user accepting a payment to spam forum doesn't value the forum and can't be trusted.

Read the number one Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign. these guys need to make at least 100post to receive something reasonable. PASS

Sorry about that.
As Ninja said...

that's not what the trust system was made for.

So, who can paint the spammers? moderator? Just for warning if they doing spam?

[AdolfinWolf]

Are they paying red tagged users also? If no then tagging every user seen wearing the signature and majority of their post are just off topic or spam can reduce their effect on the forum. I don't have a problem with getting paid for quality contribution but to me any user accepting a payment to spam forum doesn't value the forum and can't be trusted.

Read number 1  Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign.  these guys need to make at least 100post to receive something reasonable. PASS

Nope.

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/

But we can't tag them anymore. Remember what theymos said? No more tagging users just because of their posting behavior - that's not what the trust system was made for.

So is this user just acting like a moderator all of a sudden for the heck of it  ?
Seems like they might be accepting red-trusted users afterall. Knowing Yobit, i personally wouldn't be surprised.

Although, this could just be an exception.

[mk4]

So, who can paint the spammers? moderator? Just for warning if they doing spam?

Simply report the user if you think that a certain user is going into spam territory. The admins will likely sort things out after seeing your report.

Optional: if you think the spam is really getting out of hand, you can probably give the user red trust.

[TryNinja]

~snip~

I'm just quoting their page. I don't work for Yobit so I can't know.

I questioned the same thing on another thread.

I thought neg-tagged users were not allowed?

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

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The point of my post was that they don't allow neg-tagged users and I already see 3 neg-tagged users just on this page wearing Yobit's signature.

[AdolfinWolf]

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The point of my post was that they don't allow neg-tagged users and I already see 3 neg-tagged users just on this page wearing Yobit's signature.

Holy shit, now that i've read that ANN, 20 posts a DAY, @ 0.00012, that's every spammers wet dream right there.

Allowing red-trusted Sr. Members/Heros' is going to open up some serious floodgates of spam. Can't wait for that.

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For a time it had seemed that their savior was gone.

It had been three days (give or take a few many months) since the vanquishment of the Lord, YoBit.
YoBit had been ostracized, attacked, and relentlessly punished savagely by the masters of the domain: the DT-gang.

Exiled from the realm, YoBit had essentially perished... but would return, stronger than ever.

Blasting forth from the heavens, YoBit's will carried on! For they would not rescue the s-posters from within the realm controlled by malicious entities... no.

They would send messages from outside of the s-poster realm of existence, outside of the master's controls, through their prayers and directly into their inboxes of various email providers.

"A new campaign has started."Welcome to the Crusade.

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[sujonali1819]

The spam is already started in this forum for the campaign. I don't sure that yobit accept/not the red trust users for their campaign but I have seen some red tagged members are already updated the yobit signature.
So spam is one people had not been active since September  of 2018 after getting red trust but now today Suddenly active and already 15+ post done by the user after joining the campaign.

[EastSound]

offer % daily ponzi service, i think they will close down soon.
I doubt that they will be paying their signature participants.

[bones261]

     I think encouraging people to post 20 posts a day is a bit irresponsible. At least they don't have a minimum post count as well. I can't imagine posting 20 posts a day. Shoot, I'm having trouble meeting the 10 post per week minimum on the signature campaign that I am currently with.

[TryNinja]

offer % daily ponzi service, i think they will close down soon.
I doubt that they will be paying their signature participants.

They make millions of trading fees on their shitcoins + a bunch of coins that vanished from the costumers account balance. It’s not like they don’t have the money.

Holy shit, now that i've read that ANN, 20 posts a DAY, @ 0.00012, that's every spammers wet dream right there.

Allowing red-trusted Sr. Members/Heros' is going to open up some serious floodgates of spam. Can't wait for that.

Maybe I should create some alts... ^/s

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Optional: if you think the spam is really getting out of hand, you can probably give the user red trust.

Eh, as much as I'd love to tag shitposters, Theymos does not want members doing that, DT or not.  The only thing that should be done if you notice someone spamming/shitposting is to report their post(s) to the mods and let them deal with it.

Yobit had this same campaign setup before, and there was certainly a lot of spam but mostly in Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion, both of which probably couldn't get any worse.  But I'll definitely keep my eyes open for any shenanigans.

[s1ng]

Maybe someone can try to manage the campaign to minimalize the spam ?

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Holy shit, now that i've read that ANN, 20 posts a DAY, @ 0.00012, that's every spammers wet dream right there.

Allowing red-trusted Sr. Members/Heros' is going to open up some serious floodgates of spam. Can't wait for that.

Maybe I should create some alts... ^/s

It's become the opportunity for your brother,uncle,bff,father,mother, to do it

[gentlemand]

I supposed at least this is a fast track way to cull the no mark higher ranked accounts. It's going to attract every single one of them and no doubt they're going to pound away until they're banned or booted. Interested to see if Yobit do anything. I somehow doubt they care all that much.

[Kavelj22]

Yobit had a long run signature campaign earlier in 2016 to 2017 for more than a year (don't know if it really stopped as I frequently see some users wearing the signature) with the highest pay-rate (compared to actual running BTC campaigns considering also the BTC price at that time.
I don't remember reading any complaints about that campaign. Yobit had been greatly promoted via that campaign, which may be seen as a major success factor for the platform.
For the New launched campaign, I really have some doubts about it for the following reasons:

• How long will it run?
• Why there is no Bitcointalk manager to respond different community asks?
• How much fund reserved for the campaign?
• Are funds escrowed by any trusted third-part?
• Should we blindly trust Yobit after the last accusations against it?
• How many users will be accepted in this campaign?
• Isn't weird not to set more post restrictions for a high rate campaign?

I think the issue with this campaign is a little bit bigger than the spam-encouragement problem.
We can't blame/judge participants or managers until someone break forum rules.
Reminder, confirmed spammers will be banned, so I think applicants will take more attention doing their tasks.

This is just a personal attitude, and am not accusing Yobit or participants being part of any scam/spam theme.

[gentlemand]

I don't remember reading any complaints about that campaign. Yobit had been greatly promoted via that campaign, which may be seen as a major success factor for the platform.

There were bloody millions of moans. 'Yobit spammer' became a short hand for anyone who chose to squirt their worthless diarrhoea all over us.

Anyway, let's give it a week or two to see whether it smooths out but it hasn't gotten off to a very promising start. It's straight back to the old days within hours.

[freedomgo]

This is bit lower compared to stake signature campaign, max of stake is 0.1 btc as what they advertised on the sig campaign.
There were a lot of members in the past since they allow lower rank but not they improve and I hope the poster will also improve.

I don't want to conclude that it will create spam since it's just launched, let's hope members would care for the best of the forum this time around.

[tbct_mt2]

You can create alts, but your alts won't be accepted by Yobit. 

Maybe I should create some alts... ^/s

[cryptogaga]

Dont sell your soul because of money, Yobit is a den of organised scam. i have lost more than $2000 on yobit, i also foolishly participated in their scam of an ico with no wallet or chain, also they changed the rules without letting users know! they do not respond to tickets and they ban you if you speak truth about their evil ways in their trollbox, after banning you from trollbox you can not access your money and they say you can do nothing

They have been losing customers who got tired of being scammed, now they want to use this forum to acquire new members that they would scam dont fall for it Yobit is a scammmmm!  i would never advise even my enemy to use yobit again they tempt you with money and steal your money!

[o_e_l_e_o]

Campaign Participants:

Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

Campaign Operators:

If you are running a campaign and it becomes blatantly obvious to Staff that you are doing little to nothing to stop spam on your campaign you will be issued a PM warning by a Global Moderator that you need to make immediate improvements to curb low-quality posts. You will have 7 days to remove low-quality posters and respond to the message detailing what you are going to do to make changes to your campaign to reduce the amount of spam. If improvements are not noticeable within 21 days of that and Staff do not believe you are doing enough to prevent low quality posts your signatures will be blacklisted from the forum by an Admin and you will no longer be permitted to advertise here in such a way.

YoBit should receive a warning and the majority of their campaign participants should receive a 7 day ban, immediately. Their posts are clearly nonconstructive and unsubstantial, and YoBit are quite clearly doing nothing to curb this behavior - quite the opposite, in fact. Paying for 20 posts per day is encouraging spam, not limiting it. The rules are very clear in the stickied thread I've quoted above. Lets start enforcing them.

[marcotheminer]

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1119228178743083009
YoBit Signature Campaign (BitcoinTalk): https://yobit.net/en/signature/  ★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day).

YoBit exchange organized a Signature Campaign at our forum. They pay 20 posts per day. Forum will be filled with spam. Here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310031;sa=showPosts

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

The forum is filled with them, friend.  People are being paid to post.

Admin is well aware of this issue.

It's not an issue for the forum.. It helps it. Not the spam - the pay-per-post incentives. Spam from Yobit wearers will be as bad as spam from other signature wearers (although they have a higher limit.. at 20 posts/day). The only thing I can think of as a semi-solution is: forum members may not be paid for more than X posts per day - no matter the campaign. It would slow things down.

[finzyoj]

The only thing I can think of as a semi-solution is: forum members may not be paid for more than X posts per day - no matter the campaign. It would slow things down.

Another rule suggestion means going through another series of debates and another pile of work for the DTs. Don't get me wrong, I like your suggestion but the question is do they like it too?

You know what? For me, daily or weekly post quota is not a big deal. If you're really eager to complete 20 posts per day then divide it in subequal parts, if it means posting every hour for the rest of the day then do so instead of forcing yourself to complete it in several hours only. It is also good in a sense that you can have some ample time to refresh and gather new ideas/motivation thus quality of your posts are not reduced every time you post. It's just a matter of time management and discipline.

If you believe that you are not a shitposter then prove it to others, at all times. If you can't then prepare for the consequences (ban/red tag) Lol.

[ralle14]

Yobit had a long run signature campaign earlier in 2016 to 2017 for more than a year (don't know if it really stopped as I frequently see some users wearing the signature) with the highest pay-rate (compared to actual running BTC campaigns considering also the BTC price at that time.

Yobit's old campaign was still up and running before this new one they're listed on Mitchell's overview. Only few users continued wearing it because the campaign was having issues in paying out, I remember one of their participants saying they have to waited months before they were paid.

The only thing I can think of as a semi-solution is: forum members may not be paid for more than X posts per day - no matter the campaign. It would slow things down.

Another rule suggestion means going through another series of debates and another pile of work for the DTs. Don't get me wrong, I like your suggestion but the question is do they like it too?

If Yobit plans to add a rule on their campaign it should be the merit requirement.

[hilariousandco]

Campaign Participants:

Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

Campaign Operators:

If you are running a campaign and it becomes blatantly obvious to Staff that you are doing little to nothing to stop spam on your campaign you will be issued a PM warning by a Global Moderator that you need to make immediate improvements to curb low-quality posts. You will have 7 days to remove low-quality posters and respond to the message detailing what you are going to do to make changes to your campaign to reduce the amount of spam. If improvements are not noticeable within 21 days of that and Staff do not believe you are doing enough to prevent low quality posts your signatures will be blacklisted from the forum by an Admin and you will no longer be permitted to advertise here in such a way.

YoBit should receive a warning and the majority of their campaign participants should receive a 7 day ban, immediately. Their posts are clearly nonconstructive and unsubstantial, and YoBit are quite clearly doing nothing to curb this behavior - quite the opposite, in fact. Paying for 20 posts per day is encouraging spam, not limiting it. The rules are very clear in the stickied thread I've quoted above. Lets start enforcing them.

You might as well ignore this unless things change and the admins start enforcing those guidelines, but if we do nothing then campaigns like Yobit will take advantage of that. They seemingly don't even have a campaign manager and if they don't then we all know what will happen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898552;sa=showPosts

20 posts in 45 minutes.

At least they're cutting out the lower ranks but there are still plenty of nothing accounts from the old days that do qualify. I hope the mods do a swift job on this because Yobit back in the day was a right old blight.

Someone already banned that user for post-bursting and it's his second ban, but he's also ban evading as a previous account is permabanned.

Optional: if you think the spam is really getting out of hand, you can probably give the user red trust.

Eh, as much as I'd love to tag shitposters, Theymos does not want members doing that, DT or not.  The only thing that should be done if you notice someone spamming/shitposting is to report their post(s) to the mods and let them deal with it.

Staff shouldn't have to be left to do this. We basically become unpaid campaign managers having to do others perople's dirty work whilst they sit back and reap all the profits.

[tbct_mt2]

You might as well ignore this unless things change and the admins start enforcing those guidelines, but if we do nothing then campaigns like Yobit will take advantage of that. They seemingly don't even have a campaign manager and if they don't then we all know what will happen.

Don't worry about that, because we might see Yobit has its official campaign manager. However, I really think that we should stop spam the Meta board by over discuss about Yobit campaign. Let it be and we will see how it will end. Forum staffs already knew about it.

[hilariousandco]

You might as well ignore this unless things change and the admins start enforcing those guidelines, but if we do nothing then campaigns like Yobit will take advantage of that. They seemingly don't even have a campaign manager and if they don't then we all know what will happen.

Don't worry about that, because we might see Yobit has its official campaign manager. However, I really think that we should stop spam the Meta board by over discuss about Yobit campaign. Let it be and we will see how it will end. Forum staffs already knew about it.

That doesn't mean they're going to be managing the campaign. They didn't before and that was the problem.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

<***> But to me any user accepting a payment to spam forum doesn't value the forum and can't be trusted.

Read number 1  Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign.  these guys need to make at least 100post to receive something reasonable. PASS

But we can't tag them anymore. Remember what theymos said? No more tagging users just because of their posting behavior - that's not what the trust system was made for.

Had that at the back of my mind when giving that suggestion, but it's quite annoying knowing (from reading replies) people are ok with these spammers wearing the yobit signature spamming 170 post or even more weekly and receiving a reward for that. Thought we were all against spam or it's because with yobit spamming you can get a decent pay unlike others. What about banning all accounts repeatedly spamming very low quality (mostly one liner posts) or off topic post. The moderators need do something before this get act of hand. These guys shouldn't be given the freedom to take us backwards when it comes to reducing spam on the forum.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think encouraging people to post 20 posts a day is a bit irresponsible.

Yeah, but it's nothing new, just something we haven't seen in quite some time.  I can't remember when Yobit ended their campaign the first time, but I honestly did not notice a difference in the level of shitposts when it did end.  Same with Secondstrade, which had tons of spammers in it.  So we'll see how this plays out.

If Yobit plans to add a rule on their campaign it should be the merit requirement.

Yep, great suggestion and I'd love to see an earned merit requirement of at least 20 or something like that.  It would have to be high enough to prohibit spammers from easily obtaining the merits illicitly. 

In general, I really have no problem with Yobit bringing back the ol' 20 posts/day campaign, and I think someone could easily make those 20 posts and still not have them be garbage.  You just have to take your time and think about what you're writing--and spend enough time doing it.  I'm sure I mentioned I was in the old Yobit campaign from December 2015 to about mid-2016 I think, and while I'm sure some of my posts were short and might be considered low-quality, I did try to put some effort into each of them. 

That said, I worry that this is not what a lot of current Yobit campaign participants are going to do.  I've already noticed a lot of thread-bumping going on by members wearing the Yobit signature.

[r1s2g3]

The problem is actually being created by spam users like the one you have shown( although I think he will soon be banned as he is violating Yobit Guidelines).  

Now few user get more regards to the Yobit;s guidelines instead of the forum rule.
Worst thing I read, that yobit is not paying in local sections so I am assuming a shitton of post in english sections were going to be created.

[AdolfinWolf]

Optional: if you think the spam is really getting out of hand, you can probably give the user red trust.

Eh, as much as I'd love to tag shitposters, Theymos does not want members doing that, DT or not.  The only thing that should be done if you notice someone spamming/shitposting is to report their post(s) to the mods and let them deal with it.

How about tagging them for promoting a scam, a ponzi scheme (See their Investbox, https://yobit.net/en/investbox/), a site which facilitates & promotes pump & dumps, and just outright scams their users by fraudulent tickers. (https://steemit.com/yobit/@gandalfthetartan/fooling-the-traders-from-russia-with-love)

Code: (https://steemit.com/yobit/@gandalfthetartan/fooling-the-traders-from-russia-with-love)

1. Yobit take an established coin Omise_Go (OMG).
2. They then quietly create their own, useless coin, entitled OMGame.
3. Listing OMGame on their market using the ticker (OMG) at a handful of Satoshi cheaper than current market price they drive up hype for discount purchases (no note of OMGame is made to the consumer on the trading screen).
4. Volume is artificially kept high thanks to exchange wash-trading.
5. When people grow wise to the scam, Yobit delete the coin, leaving traders out of pocket unable to sell elsewhere.
6. Support emails in return claim that the coin was a 3rd party technology that no longer met the exchange's T&C and Yobit is not liable for remuneration.

Now we haven't even talked about the new IEO products they're offering. They switched from Pump&Dump ICO's to IEO's, which are basically an even bigger sack of horseshit (or simply renamed?). https://yobit.net/en/ico/timer/

They are conducting IEO for coins that do not exist - it's not a project. They make a paid "SHROOM" let's say, and that's it, new coin added. It's to generate profit for those who get in early - a kind of gambling game. It can be profitable or very taxing. I guess nothing wrong with that and up to each use to play their part or avoid it.

Mind you, this is a quote from someone that actively participates in them. (And even he can't make it sound like anything but a huge freaking scam..) they don't even offer any product at all to their users...? (Which is somewhat the case with ICO's, you get a withdrawable token, (which is usually not worth shit either, but still.))


People who promote ponzi schemes are almost always tagged instantly. I don't see how this is radically different..?  (If not even worse.)

[robelneo]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898552;sa=showPosts

20 posts in 45 minutes.

At least they're cutting out the lower ranks but there are still plenty of nothing accounts from the old days that do qualify. I hope the mods do a swift job on this because Yobit back in the day was a right old blight.

Damn, I can only do 2 to 3 post in an hour I cannot in any way create a post that fast and make my post very relevant and creative, all campaigns always have this kind of posters, I just hope Yobit had a good campaign manager and can trace who among the participants are posting shits and doing it for money.

[marcotheminer]

It's easy to nail/ban these users, they seek the threads that are easy-to-reply-to and can simply give a shallow opinion that contributes (read: "contributes"). I feel those "Is Bitcoin going to be used in 10 years?" threads are the hotspots or even made by people to allow these random "discussions".. It's the allure of getting quick cash for non-work that keeps it going, and those in less-than-ideal-income countries do it much more willingly/will continue even after it fries your brain for just typing nonsense all day..

Now we haven't even talked about the new IEO products they're offering. They switched from Pump&Dump ICO's to IEO's, which are basically an even bigger sack of horseshit (or simply renamed?). https://yobit.net/en/ico/timer/

They are conducting IEO for coins that do not exist - it's not a project. They make a paid "SHROOM" let's say, and that's it, new coin added. It's to generate profit for those who get in early - a kind of gambling game. It can be profitable or very taxing. I guess nothing wrong with that and up to each use to play their part or avoid it.

Mind you, this is a quote from someone that actively participates in them. (And even he can't make it sound like anything but a huge freaking scam..) they don't even offer any product at all to their users...? (Which is somewhat the case with ICO's, you get a withdrawable token, (which is usually not worth shit either, but still.))

It's pretty clear that they are non-tokens and purely a gambling game of "get in/get out". It's not a ponzi though, but "hoping someone else buys at a higher price than you did" game. This is what Crypto allows and it only continues to exists because people are tempted/ready to play/gamble.

Exactly, the same opinion must be applied to nearly every single ICO that has existed that was a "utility" token. We're in the midst of a bubble, most things/most people are out-of-touch with reality. Like what the fuck is BNB? What the fuck is Litecoin even? Bitcoin/Ethereum/maybe 5 other systems (DAI/Maker? Gemini dollar? 0x?  Mana?) I would argue are the only systems that matter until *new* systems (not just replicated) come along. Even then - Bitcoin is the other thing that seems like it can really stick around (everything else can be merged into it AFAIK.. Layer 1 (instant payments), Layer 2 (computing layer), Layer 3 (), etc..).

Then we can apply all this logic to the "real world", and realise everything is bullshit too. Apple, Amazon, Google stock? What do you actually own.. Nothing.. It's for the (hopeful) price rises - well, actually dividends of their profits too sometimes. Crypto is just another way of someone/something out there rushing to print a shit ton and get real tangible assets ASAP. Crypto is crazy if you think about the implications/what it reveals..

EDIT: Sorry for tangent, but all of this is very exciting/confusing/out of whack.. and I believe for most people..

[o_e_l_e_o]

You might as well ignore this unless things change and the admins start enforcing those guidelines, but if we do nothing then campaigns like Yobit will take advantage of that.

I understand that, but what I don't understand is why. We already have a framework of rules in place for dealing with this. Everyone who isn't a spammer is essentially unanimous that this kind of behavior is unacceptable and should be condemned. There are entire boards which are essentially unusable because of bounty spam (not just talking about YoBit here). And yet, as you say, it's left to users to report and mods to delete and do these managers' work for them. We are tinkering around the edges banning the odd spammer here and there, whilst not dealing with the larger issue at hand. It's like trying to stop a ship from sinking by scooping out the water with bucket, while ignoring the gaping hole that is letting water in 5x faster.

We need to start enforcing the rules in that stickied thread. If we aren't going to do that, then there is barely any point discussing every spam filled campaign like that one that comes along. Even if we got every user in it banned, 100 more would have joined by tomorrow, and 10 new spam campaigns would have popped up too.

[seoincorporation]

The wired thing about this campaign is it doesn't have limit of participants, and i thing that's the real spam source. Each day more user will join to that campaign because the pay rate isn't bad at all, but 20 daily posts mean 140 post/week, and at the end is in our hands to report the spammers and in hands of the mods to ban those users.

[tbct_mt2]

There is no limit of participants, there is no confirmation of acceptance to join, there is no manager. Simply wearing signature and start posting.

The wired thing about this campaign is it doesn't have limit of participants, and i thing that's the real spam source.

That said, I worry that this is not what a lot of current Yobit campaign participants are going to do.

I saw a lots of their supporters published one line shit posts, so your assumption  might likely right.
Someone who have AI skills, can you do it for fun.

The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.This is inspired by the new YoBit campaign which will bring forth a wave of spam. Only Moses can save us now.

Even when you can do it, I don't think you should do it. Instead, if you can, you should scrap data to count how many posts published by Yobit supporters are one line shit posts, and how many percentage one line shit posts per total posts published by Yobit supporters.

[coin-investor]

the rate is very interesting for a hero member like me, but I prefer to stay in my current signature campaign because I believe my current one is a long term campaign, some of my colleagues in Stake.com are now with Yobit, but that's not a problem as long as they are not spamming, it used to be Stake now it's Yobit 

[webmir]

If a member makes spam, he/she should of course be banned. But it is wrong to look at the person wearing this signature as a spammer. You can't label everyone like this. Spammers are followed and made necessary operation.
But I have to say that yobit's campaign should be organized. The weekly message limit must be set. It's encouraging for spam to make payments to 20 messages per day.

1. The script has a daily limit for the payment of messages.
2.  Yobit will bring order. It is unprofitable for them to pay scam.

[stompix]

The wired thing about this campaign is it doesn't have limit of participants, and i thing that's the real spam source. Each day more user will join to that campaign because the pay rate isn't bad at all, but 20 daily posts mean 140 post/week, and at the end is in our hands to report the spammers and in hands of the mods to ban those users.

Not weird and I'm 100% they've thought of that.

An avalanche of members will join their campaign and if it's too much to pay and no immediate results they will trim it themselves.
Besides, by not going the normal route of confirming participants, you get spammers with thousands of posts making 100 posts a week and wearing your signature for free as after a week you can simply deny them payments:P.

A lot will not get paid, they have nowhere to complain cause if they do around here nobody will take a spammer's side.

ps.
I'm pretty sure that how much trading you do on yobit will have a huge say on the chances of getting paid

[webmir]

The wired thing about this campaign is it doesn't have limit of participants, and i thing that's the real spam source. Each day more user will join to that campaign because the pay rate isn't bad at all, but 20 daily posts mean 140 post/week, and at the end is in our hands to report the spammers and in hands of the mods to ban those users.

Not weird and I'm 100% they've thought of that.

An avalanche of members will join their campaign and if it's too much to pay and no immediate results they will trim it themselves.
Besides, by not going the normal route of confirming participants, you get spammers with thousands of posts making 100 posts a week and wearing your signature for free as after a week you can simply deny them payments:P.

A lot will not get paid, they have nowhere to complain cause if they do around here nobody will take a spammer's side.

ps.
I'm pretty sure that how much trading you do on yobit will have a huge say on the chances of getting paid

Is there a limit of posts per day total ...
And probably there is a limit to the participants.

Plus, local forum branches are not paid.

[rocku12345]

If a member makes spam, he/she should of course be banned. But it is wrong to look at the person wearing this signature as a spammer. You can't label everyone like this. Spammers are followed and made necessary operation.
But I have to say that yobit's campaign should be organized. The weekly message limit must be set. It's encouraging for spam to make payments to 20 messages per day.

Right in this topic it is going to appear some spam. For the start admins should manage some definite rules of what the spam is and how to make posts avoiding it.  As for me I also don`t like to see a lot of messages with almost the same sense in them. If we don`t have such rules, then prepare to read between the lines. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Here's a gem of an example of the new Yobit spammers:

Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?

This is why that campaign really needs to be managed by someone with an iron fist, because currently their criteria for acceptance is just way too lax.  I did not report the above post, but I'm going to go back and do it.  Jesus.

[sonerbo]

Here's a gem of an example of the new Yobit spammers:

Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?

This is why that campaign really needs to be managed by someone with an iron fist, because currently their criteria for acceptance is just way too lax.  I did not report the above post, but I'm going to go back and do it.  Jesus.

@mtmitat is learning english I think Let the people make money guys. Bitcointalk is the symbol of freedom. You can swear you can tell what ever you think. There is a ignore button you can use it. But for just wearing a signature no one can be banned. Then you must ban who wears red pants or who smokes while having shit...

[Mulann2]

Here's a gem of an example of the new Yobit spammers:

Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?

This is why that campaign really needs to be managed by someone with an iron fist, because currently their criteria for acceptance is just way too lax.  I did not report the above post, but I'm going to go back and do it.  Jesus.

The below is the campaign rule for the yobit signature and judging from the tone of it, i doubt post like that will get any payment, you should read through

★☆★ Rules ★☆★

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

Any user who hasn't made a post in over a month will also be removed.

i hope this will answer some of the criticism of this campaign, at least this shows that the team are aware of what will happen if some level of strictness are not applied to reduce irrelevant one line post.

[marlboroza]

Forum will be filled with spam.

And usually it isn't?

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

Go and report spam, moderator will take action.

The below is the campaign rule for the yobit signature and judging from the tone of it, i doubt post like that will get any payment

Do you think users are posting one liners because they are not getting payed for it? 

Here's a gem of an example of the new Yobit spammers:

Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?

9 seconds https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133932.msg50693824#msg50693824 What are the odds...

[o_e_l_e_o]

Let the people make money guys.

No.

Whole sections of the forum are unusable because of people trying to make a quick buck by churning out any old nonsense. The forum was created to discuss bitcoin - some users being paid to post should be a byproduct of their desire to be here and discuss bitcoin, and not the other way around, with users discussing bitcoin simply as a means to being paid.

However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be sucessful in the end.

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic.

If you want to make money, go and get a job.

[sonerbo]

Let the people make money guys.

No.

Whole sections of the forum are unusable because of people trying to make a quick buck by churning out any old nonsense. The forum was created to discuss bitcoin - some users being paid to post should be a byproduct of their desire to be here and discuss bitcoin, and not the other way around, with users discussing bitcoin simply as a means to being paid.

However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be sucessful in the end.

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic.

If you want to make money, go and get a job.

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here. There are lots of sig camp with twitter facebook and lots of shit reports. They are hundreds of page and thousands of posts. Arent they spam ??

[Lafu]

If you want to make money, go and get a job.

Exactly , the Forum wasnt created for make money !

Guess the half of the spammers dont know realy about Bitcoin and Blockchain , possible they dont know whats sha256 is .  

Anyway just keep reporting if you think the post is spam , Click that nice button !

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here. There are lots of sig camp with twitter facebook and lots of shit reports. They are hundreds of page and thousands of posts. Arent they spam ??

It makes some difference if you post some good stuff and normal or just post so some shit to get you post count for the sig. !

[o_e_l_e_o]

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here.

There is a massive difference between constructive posts which happen to be appended by a signature, and spamming solely for the purpose of reaching a post quote for a signature campaign. It seems that the majority of those signed up to YoBit not only fall decisively in the latter of those categories, but also struggle to tell the difference between the two categories to begin with.

Please compare mtmitat's posting history to the posting history of anybody wearing the ChipMixer signature for a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

[LoyceMobile]

So many high ranking users who I've never seen before suddenly pop up all over the place.
Account farmers from back in the days are just waiting for an opportunity to turn all those idle accounts into a profit.

[Mulann2]

Let the people make money guys.

No.

Whole sections of the forum are unusable because of people trying to make a quick buck by churning out any old nonsense. The forum was created to discuss bitcoin - some users being paid to post should be a byproduct of their desire to be here and discuss bitcoin, and not the other way around, with users discussing bitcoin simply as a means to being paid.

However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be sucessful in the end.

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic.

If you want to make money, go and get a job.

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here. There are lots of sig camp with twitter facebook and lots of shit reports. They are hundreds of page and thousands of posts. Arent they spam ??

lol! let him be, he is a holy man with no shit post background his resume are clean ready to take on the job of General Overseer of the Bitcointalk Forum, i hope the position meet him in good condition of health and suit perfectly, phew! too many ITK here that the air is so thin and very hard to breath
i wonder what whole section is unusable that General Overseer is finding it difficult to use? is he planning to wright a documentary about "shit posters"  that he discover the remaining space on that section won't be enough for him to post?
i guess the forum needs to create more space,    uhhm, where are the mods, your attention is needed here

[sonerbo]

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here.

There is a massive difference between constructive posts which happen to be appended by a signature, and spamming solely for the purpose of reaching a post quote for a signature campaign. It seems that the majority of those signed up to YoBit not only fall decisively in the latter of those categories, but also struggle to tell the difference between the two categories to begin with.

Please compare mtmitat's posting history to the posting history of anybody wearing the ChipMixer signature for a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

I am totally agree with you about spamming and the people just posting to reach the goal of campaign. yes ı checked his posts before your suggest and also ı wrote in local with quote of his post. I told be careful about your English post. Anyway my last words are this forum is symbol of freedom for me and you can not ban or give negatif trust to anybody for his/her signature.  Have a good day ! Enjoy your time !

[AztecGoldHero]

the aim of the campaıngs are to make post as much as people can, and it has 20 post lımıt, how you can call that as spam, if you call that as spam so ban all sıgnature campaıngs, there is big difference between markettıng and spammıng, also it has tiny line between them, but you cant call dırectly spam to these campaıngs.

[hulla]

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1119228178743083009
YoBit Signature Campaign (BitcoinTalk): https://yobit.net/en/signature/  ★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day).

YoBit exchange organized a Signature Campaign at our forum. They pay 20 posts per day. Forum will be filled with spam. Here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310031;sa=showPosts

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

The forum is filled with them, friend.  People are being paid to post.

Admin is well aware of this issue.

Like Vod said admin is awere of this issue and the reason why the Yobit set the max 20 daily posts was because thats how the run their previous campaign back in the year 2015 . I guess they are not aware of the present situation of the forum and I think you should have send the person in charge of their PMs first before creating this thread.
Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

[marcotheminer]

Like Vod said admin is awere of this issue and the reason why the Yobit set the max 20 daily posts was because thats how the run their previous campaign back in the year 2015 . I guess they are not aware of the present situation of the forum and I think you should have send the person in charge of their PMs first before creating this thread.
Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

There we go - pretty decent idea. Yobit (or any campaign for that matter perhaps?) should count a maximum of 1 payable post per 30 minutes or maybe 3 per hour (1 every 20 minutes). Until then you'll have the farmers make those "post short-round bursts".

[klaaas]

and you can not ban or give negatif trust to anybody for his/her signature.

The line of trust can be very thin for some forum users so it can happen to anyone to get a neg.

If the supply of the account sellers stays up the forum will be flushed with posts for quite some time.

[erikalui]

They should appoint a campaign manager before it's too late. I did not know Yobit is a proven scam exchange as last week I cashed out my BTC lying for a year and they sent me the coins and before that also I've withdrawn big amounts and they paid. I thought that people complaining about other exchanges like hitbtc  also complain about yobit as many withdrawals are kept on hold by these exchanges. Yobit is a scam exchange now?

[NavI_027]

Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

There we go - pretty decent idea. Yobit (or any campaign for that matter perhaps?) should count a maximum of 1 payable post per 30 minutes or maybe 3 per hour (1 every 20 minutes).

That would be a great idea. I'm sure the 30 minute gap for every post helps a lot to retain the good quality of a particular post (assuming that he is not a shitposter from the first place). Doing such thing definitely gives your brain a rest even only for a while and have some time to gather new ideas and motivation to post again. Are the spammers out there aware of a robot-like feeling every time they do continuous posting, what do you think? Then why they still do it despite of the bad feeling? Oh I forgot! Mainly because of money .

If we think that 30 min. gap is considerably helpful, what more of a 1 hr. gap per post? What do you think?

[marcotheminer]

You are wrong.
Time limit between two posts does not make sure anything about post quality. There are two possible results:
- For real users, it is sure that the 30-minute gap, for example, might make sense because it will force them to spend more time to read more posts, more topics, maybe just to get information for their own interests in the meantime to pass the 30-minute gap, and they might have more time to brainstorm and compose their posts.
- For shitty posters, it does not result in any changes in post quality. They simply post their first post, then play games, and 30 minutes later come back to show their shit again, repeatedly till they hit post quota.
However, such the rule on time-gap between posts is certainly reduce spam, and it makes sense.

I'm sure the 30 minute gap for every post helps a lot to retain the good quality of a particular post (assuming that he is not a shitposter from the first place). Doing such thing definitely gives your brain a rest even only for a while and have some time to gather new ideas and motivation to post again. Are the spammers out there aware of a robot-like feeling every time they do continuous posting, what do you think? Then why they still do it despite of the bad feeling? Oh I forgot! Mainly because of money .

If we think that 30 min. gap is considerably helpful, what more of a 1 hr. gap per post? What do you think?

It would slow things down at least a bit - maybe just enough so that the incentive of posting 20 replies a day across multiple accounts is gone. 30 minutes to earn $1? Would spammers still chase that? I reckon some would but for many, the interest/allure of quick money is gone. Also if you're only being paid for 1 post every 30 minutes - you *might as-well* make it a constructive post to be paid for - would users not tend towards this conclusion? It would be easier to spot the fluff posters too in this case? (those who continue bullshit posting even if they are paid one post/30 minutes.)

[o_e_l_e_o]

- For shitty posters, it does not result in any changes in post quality. They simply post their first post, then play games, and 30 minutes later come back to show their shit again, repeatedly till they hit post quota.

It would slow things down at least a bit

I'm not convinced it would. We already know that many spammers save a bunch of pre-written posts as drafts or in notepad, and then just burst paste and post them as required to hit their posting target for that day/week/whatever. If would be fairly easy to write a script to do this for you (I suspect many already use such a script), and then just add in a 30 minute delay between posts. And if that's too complicated, then they don't even have to do that - they can just write each reply in a new tab, and then they only have to click "post" every 30 minutes. A script to do that is completely trivial.

Spammers find a way.

[Pmalek]

Surprised more people aren't handing out neg trusts to posters in the Yobit Signature campaign. 

I think the instruction not to do that came from theymos himself. Trust ratings should no longer be handled out based on the quality of a post, instead if the post breaks forum rules you report it and let the moderators handle it.

[Netnox]

May simply cancel signature companies on the forum.
Then there will be no spam.
There will be one silence.

That's a good idea. I am in favor of banning all the signature campaigns in this forum. That will definitely bring down the amount of spam. And no one can accuse anyone of bias. But I don't want selective justice. Either all the signature campaigns that doesn't violate the forum policies must be allowed, or all of them must be banned irrespective of the number of participants.

Let Theymos decide. But my opinion is that none of the sig campaigns are doing any good for this forum.

[TheNewAnon135246]

May simply cancel signature companies on the forum.
Then there will be no spam.
There will be one silence.

That's a good idea. I am in favor of banning all the signature campaigns in this forum. That will definitely bring down the amount of spam. And no one can accuse anyone of bias. But I don't want selective justice. Either all the signature campaigns that doesn't violate the forum policies must be allowed, or all of them must be banned irrespective of the number of participants.

Let Theymos decide. But my opinion is that none of the sig campaigns are doing any good for this forum.

Solve spam or not spam ...
I think not enough moderators on the forum

Stop using this thread to bump your post count. Your post history looks terrible.

[tbct_mt2]

This is why I wrote this

Yobit started their new campaign days ago, and the forum has went crazy with their campaigns, not only their supporters, bounty hunters, but also members whom are not their supporters. In my opinion, we've all known well about Yobit and their newest campaign, so it is likely right time to stop discussing in current threads as well as stop creating new threads to discuss about it. I hope that my thread is the last one open Yobit-related discussion (just hope).
The more topics, posts we discuss in Meta, the more free opportunities for their supporters to join and get legal posts to reach their post-quota, without fears or risks of being reported and deleted.
Just let them go, and staffs will act appropriately with the campaign, at the right time.

[gentlemand]

Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

There we go - pretty decent idea. Yobit (or any campaign for that matter perhaps?) should count a maximum of 1 payable post per 30 minutes or maybe 3 per hour (1 every 20 minutes).

That would be a great idea.

I massively doubt they're going to allocate the amount of time needed to check that. Considering the number of people who've piled in they'd need to tie up an employee not too far off full time. I'd be very interested to know what resources they have chucked at it. They may only rely on complaints or just keep going without looking at anything until it reaches a critical mass of annoyance.

[TheNewAnon135246]

May simply cancel signature companies on the forum.
Then there will be no spam.
There will be one silence.

Maybe silence is better.

Unfortunately, there are few useful messages in this forum  to the community today.
Messages in this forum usually consist of unnecessary battles and speculations.

Therefore, many older members, he is engaged in raising the awareness of people by sharing the valuable information he has found in this dump with his local forum.

perhaps silence, it will facilitate our work.

I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.

[asche]

I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.

He said.
Not a lot of interesting posts today.
Posts are fights & speculations.
Then it is drunk giberrish.

Last line is basically "stfu" as far as I am concerned

Back to the topic:

Some german users who signed up for Yobit and got less than their actual post count paid asked for an explanation and got banned without an answer.

This is perhaps going to backfire for Yobit. Not like they ever had a good rep' anyway.

[Zz]

I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.

Unfotunately today there is only a few usefull message in this forum.
The others are usually speculative. Not only today ist is usually same.
So most of the old members are finding e few valuable information here and sharing these in their local forums.
Because of this, I said "silence is better", maybe more useful than garbage.

Note: I'm not superman

[BlackMambaPH]

I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.

I've been there before. He's might tryin to say is:

"Just simply cancel all signature campaign here in bitcointalk so that there will be peace here in bitcointalk!" Lmao.

This Shitposter user should ban for the meantime. Or it will be great if permanent ban.

[asche]

snip

Now that you rewrote it you can delete the previous non sense maybe?

[marlboroza]

I'll give 5 merits to the person who can translate this.

Hmmm...is this trick question?

Ok, I think I got this. Zz is using notepad to write posts and then they copy/paste them here. He messed up and copied 3, maybe 4 posts and accidentally posted it as one. What you are looking for are threads where parts of this post should have been posted.

This is probably for "John Mcafee's satoshi" thread:

Maybe silence is better.

Insert in any spam related thread:

Unfortunately, there are few useful messages in this forum  to the community today.

For drama threads:

Messages in this forum usually consist of unnecessary battles and speculations.

This is end and beginning of new post:

perhaps silence, it will facilitate our work.

Got to fix this one first:

Therefore, many older members, he is engaged in raising the awareness of people by sharing the valuable information he has found in this dump with his local forum.

Nah...still nothing.

[Zz]

Now that you rewrote it you can delete the previous non sense maybe?

too late to delete, because it was quoted.

[asche]

too late to delete, because it was quoted.

No it is not. You just hope this will lead to extra post counted, while it actually only increases the probability you well get banned from the campaign for the trash you are posting here.

[Zz]

too late to delete, because it was quoted.

No it is not. You just hope this will lead to extra post counted, while it actually only increases the probability you well get banned from the campaign for the trash you are posting here.

That's not my intention.
I erased my own message. however, the quoted message remained. see : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133809.msg50702998#msg50702998

also,
I'm coming out of this campaign.

[AztecGoldHero]

seems just a jelous topıc, opened by a new bıe, probably hsı maın accunt also not sr member, and yobıt opened thıs campaıng just for sr and hıgh mermbers,

crypto and forum need these kınd of campaıngs, also it has limits wıth 20 post a day, there was tons of campaıng that allows 50 post a day,

[hulla]

Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

There we go - pretty decent idea. Yobit (or any campaign for that matter perhaps?) should count a maximum of 1 payable post per 30 minutes or maybe 3 per hour (1 every 20 minutes).

That would be a great idea.

I massively doubt they're going to allocate the amount of time needed to check that. Considering the number of people who've piled in they'd need to tie up an employee not too far off full time. I'd be very interested to know what resources they have chucked at it. They may only rely on complaints or just keep going without looking at anything until it reaches a critical mass of annoyance.

You might be right because if their previous campaign but the total 20 daily posts per day will lead to some campaign participants greediness and I think it will be better if they can reduce the daily paid posts to 15.

[Astargath]

Funny this thread is filled with people wearing sigs pretending to care about the spam  

[markiz73]

I have long thought that the maximum number of paid posts in the Signature Campaign should be governed by the rules of the forum. 50-60 posts a week is a good limit.
If the user writes more, it should not be paid.

[TheNewAnon135246]

seems just a jelous topıc, opened by a new bıe, probably hsı maın accunt also not sr member, and yobıt opened thıs campaıng just for sr and hıgh mermbers,

crypto and forum need these kınd of campaıngs, also it has limits wıth 20 post a day, there was tons of campaıng that allows 50 post a day,

20 posts per day is way too much. The amount of (extremely) low quality posts prove that. 20-25 posts a week is more than enough for a signature campaign imo.

[severaldetails]

Meanwhile, I will advice them to set atleast 30 minutes post gap.

There we go - pretty decent idea. Yobit (or any campaign for that matter perhaps?) should count a maximum of 1 payable post per 30 minutes or maybe 3 per hour (1 every 20 minutes).

That would be a great idea.

I massively doubt they're going to allocate the amount of time needed to check that. Considering the number of people who've piled in they'd need to tie up an employee not too far off full time. I'd be very interested to know what resources they have chucked at it. They may only rely on complaints or just keep going without looking at anything until it reaches a critical mass of annoyance.

I am still a member of the old campaign, and there the counting was done by a bot. I think that it can't be too difficult to add some code that measures the time between posts. This way a 30 minutes gap for paid posts would be easy to controle. I find this a good idea!

[Malsetid]

seems just a jelous topıc, opened by a new bıe, probably hsı maın accunt also not sr member, and yobıt opened thıs campaıng just for sr and hıgh mermbers,

crypto and forum need these kınd of campaıngs, also it has limits wıth 20 post a day, there was tons of campaıng that allows 50 post a day,

20 posts per day is way too much. The amount of (extremely) low quality posts prove that. 20-25 posts a week is more than enough for a signature campaign imo.

I don't think they're required to meet that 20 posts a day though. And for somone who have pretty much the whole day to spend in the forums, 20 quality posts i think is easily attainable. I've read quite a lot of yobit campaigners' posts recently and many of them aren't shit posts and are relevant to the topic or the post they're replying on. It would just be better i think if there's an actual mod for the campaign itself to track their posters for spam and irrelevant content.

[Mulann2]

Funny this thread is filled with people wearing sigs pretending to care about the spam  

Trying to correct one wrong with another wrong (By Mulann2)
Actually i don't see yobit campaign as a wrong, what is wrong is the attacks like this has never been seen before
But hey! Yobitooss must be enjoying the spotlight, any kind of publicity is still a.......? (fill it)
Lol! this forum is full of D........s

[markiz73]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006631.msg50705126#msg50705126
I've already seen a few reviews in local boards that Yobit  doesn't pay. Soon as possible willing spam will be less.

[2girls]

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1119228178743083009
YoBit Signature Campaign (BitcoinTalk): https://yobit.net/en/signature/  ★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day). ★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post (20 max per day).

YoBit exchange organized a Signature Campaign at our forum. They pay 20 posts per day. Forum will be filled with spam. Here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310031;sa=showPosts

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

I am not sure why everyone specially the DT members are angry on the Yobit new Signature Campaign . If the Campaign follows the Rule , whats the Issue with the DT members ?
However, Forum Spamming should not be allowed.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I don't think they're required to meet that 20 posts a day though.

No, but providing an incentive for 20 posts a day means many of them will post any old spam in an effort to reach 20 posts a day to maximize their earnings.

And for somone who have pretty much the whole day to spend in the forums, 20 quality posts i think is easily attainable.

Sure, there are some members who could make 20 on-topic, constructive, and high quality posts in a day. But there are many more members who struggle to even make a single constructive or high quality post. Incentivizing them to post 20 times a day simply results in 20 spam posts.

If the Campaign follows the Rule , whats the Issue with the DT members ?

The campaign promotes and pays for low-value, pointless, and off-topic posts, all of which are against the rules.

[Findingnemo]

The spam invaders looks much more than I expected in less than 72 hours.On every thread's last page you only can see 90% signature as yobit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006631.msg50705126#msg50705126
I've already seen a few reviews in local boards that Yobit  doesn't pay. Soon as possible willing spam will be less.

As far as I know they were only paying to english posts.

[DdmrDdmr]

I’ve taken a look at Yobit signature bearers to see what info I can gather so far. Now my focus here is only on meriter/merited people, since those are a subset I regularly download (therefore providing a partial view).
General context: There are a total of 35k meriter/meriters, and over 155K people who have at least logged-in over the last three months (bpip).

This morning I downloaded all meriter/merited profiles, and going over their signatures, I make it 321 meriter/merited forum members that are bearing a Yobit signature (searching for the terms ‘Yobit’, ‘fast exchange’ and ‘over 1450’ in the signature – discarding old stale signatures in the process). As far as I’m aware, the campaign started on the 19/04/2019, so it’s running into its fourth day now.

The rank distribution is as follows:

Code:

rank	        nUsers
Legendary	55
Hero Member	99
Sr. Member     134
Full Member	17
Member	        15
Jr. Member	 1

There are 33 profiles bearing the signature that do not have the minimum Sr. Member rank. 54 of the profiles also have negative trust (DT depth 2 view).

Link to merited/meriter profiles: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S9mvmHtjqO0CUz6jO25DVdDzHx9Pgde62O_3FYhzzoM/edit?usp=sharing

Now the above is just after 4 days. Seeing the signature is not an issue at all. Some are bound to be decent posters, and the signature will (at least to me) be pretty transparent. It’s when you see a bunch of one-liners , thrusts of 20 posts in just a few minutes, or last post by the same profile in a wide range of posts, that it gets a bit one your nerves. If that is the case, then report to moderator is the procedure to follow.

[tranthidung]

Some are bound to be decent posters, and the signature will (at least to me) be pretty transparent. It’s when you see a bunch of one-liners , thrusts of 20 posts in just a few minutes, or last post by the same profile in a wide range of posts, that it gets a bit one your nerves. If that is the case, then report to moderator is the procedure to follow.

It is obviously that not all Yobit supporters are shit posters, but most of them are. We should have deeply respect on someone who kept posting decent ones as Yobit supporters, because they somehow bring benefits back to Yobit, rather than shitposters, that likely only cheated money out of Yobit.
Nevertheles, you likely said something incorrect, the spam from Yobit looks not really a serious spam, because forum members now have become more actively report spam posts. Consequently, most of spam posts deleted within first hours after published by shitposters.

[2girls]

Some are bound to be decent posters, and the signature will (at least to me) be pretty transparent. It’s when you see a bunch of one-liners , thrusts of 20 posts in just a few minutes, or last post by the same profile in a wide range of posts, that it gets a bit one your nerves. If that is the case, then report to moderator is the procedure to follow.

It is obviously that not all Yobit supporters are shit posters, but most of them are. We should have deeply respect on someone who kept posting decent ones as Yobit supporters, because they somehow bring benefits back to Yobit, rather than shitposters, that likely only cheated money out of Yobit.
Nevertheles, you likely said something incorrect, the spam from Yobit looks not really a serious spam, because forum members now have become more actively report spam posts. Consequently, most of spam posts deleted within first hours after published by shitposters.

So you mean to say that those wearing the signature of Yobit are all spam posters and as soon as we see a Yobit wear account post on the forum, it should be deleted immediately .   Common Get a life 

[asche]

So you mean to say that those wearing the signature of Yobit are all spam posters and as soon as we see a Yobit wear account post on the forum, it should be deleted immediately .   Common Get a life 

I mean most people wearing said signature went from 1-2 posts/day to 20.

How come they suddenly have that much to say? Including yourself. Who are you kidding?

Also I thought you couldn't participate in YoBit signature with red trust

[theymos]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

[asche]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

That was swift and fair.

Thanks

[Findingnemo]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

Saved bitcointalk from spammers.

[tranthidung]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

Ban based on reports on their bad post (at least one). 129/321 ~ 40% of users wear Yobit signature got bans or signature replaced with "Am I spamming? Report me!"
However, as DdmrDdmr pointed out, some users wear Yobit signature actually made decent posts, so ban them due to reports might lead to another kind of abusements, like personal attacks. I know that staffs will look at report, but maybe personal attacks might occur. What should be applied with spam reporters?

[Badboy[BTC]]

Maybe let's even stop to chat on the forum? What the hell am I seeing here? ban for too many messages just because people are signed from yobit. Why wasn't this question for the throne in other companies? It is clear that people write messages to make money. I went through some accounts who have already banned and in fact most people have quite normal messages.

[shimbark123]

Maybe let's even stop to chat on the forum? What the hell am I seeing here? ban for too many messages just because people are signed from yobit. Why wasn't this question for the throne in other companies? It is clear that people write messages to make money. I went through some accounts who have already banned and in fact most people have quite normal messages.

This is what they are doing when they saw many people earning money. They don't really want you to earn money in this forum. Just them. And they will even say that "This forum is not made in making money." BS.  As if they are not even wearing a signature.  . Nice cleaning of hands mates.

What should be applied with spam reporters?

None. They want to eradicate all of these "spammers." In fact this is what they really want, eradicate those users that wear Yobit signature even though some users are not spamming at all. True isn't it?

[hilariousetc]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

This campaign has caused an outbreak of appalling spam that was spreading like wildfire within a mere few days and is a perfect example of what happens when campaigns don't care about the forum nor have a manager. If the signature campaign guidelines were enforced more like this with removal of signatures then the forum would be a much cleaner place. I really think we should look at alternative options for how campaigns can operate here. We can see that when we let people do what they want chaos ensues like it did with yobit and this is the second time it's happened with them, whereas campaigns that have managers who are doing their job properly like Chipmixer they actually have positive reputations amongst users and actually improve posts in my opinion.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

I think the discussion was more about potential negative feedback for people promoting scams which I still think is relevant to discuss, though whether yobit is a scam exchange or promoting ponzis is a different matter (but their current own ICO does look like a ponzi scheme):

It looks like a ponzi pretending to be an exchange and that's based on my experience with them from a couple of years ago... looks like they went in even deeper since then, IEO and other nonsense.

I never looked at them like this. Never had problems in last couple of years, I even got bitcoin shit fork from them. To be honest, I have never payed too much attention to their not provably fair dice, shady investment box or hundreds dead shitcoins. I used them only as exchange and I have never had any problems with withdrawals. I always ignored their e-mails about ICO's they hold, but today I decided to actually look at latest ICO/IEO/whatever it is called these days:

YoBit IEO (ICO) in 37 hrs!

Dear YoBit Users!

New Yobit IEO (Rocket ICO) in 37 hrs!

Timer: https://yobit.net/en/ico/timer/

ICO coins: 779,900,000
ICO price: 0.00000100 (100 sat)
ICO amount: 779.9 btc

ICO rules:

- InvestBox Plan - 1% / hour

80% buy walls (you can sell after the trading start and be in profit):

0.00000110 (110 sat) - 77.99 btc
0.00000109 (109 sat) - 77.99 btc
0.00000108 (108 sat) - 77.99 btc
0.00000107 (107 sat) - 77.99 btc
0.00000106 (106 sat) - 77.99 btc
0.00000105 (105 sat) - 77.99 btc
0.00000104 (104 sat) - 77.99 btc
0.00000103 (103 sat) - 77.99 btc

- Buying all orders for 77.99 btc in 2 hours after trade start (one time) for current ICO/IEO

Sincerely yours,
Team of Yobit.Net

100% in 80% out with profit, 20% to yobit. And then I checked their other ICO's and they are nearly the same as this one.

Someone please look at all numbers and model and tell me that this is not ponzi.

 

[DireWolfM14]

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

I know I've mentioned this, but  I'll refrain from tagging anyone for spamming, and follow your instructions.

I'm glad that Yobit is in a time-out.  Maybe next time they'll hire a manager rather than just encouraging a bunch of spammers to dust off their Sr. Member alts and plague to forum with shitposts.

[Lauda]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Can someone parse all these users into a list?

[tranthidung]

List? What did you mean? This one, maybe
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545652.0
One again, DdmrDdmr might help for sure. He actually scrapped data to make above analysis.
However, I don't think should be strict like that, because theymos said that we should cover about past faults if users show they actually changed and won't do samething again.

[2girls]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

That's a Good decision after all.  If anyone is spamming he should be reported.

[Badboy[BTC]]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

That's a Good decision after all.  If anyone is spamming he should be reported.

lol

[Quickseller]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

If one person had a good report against them on one account, and they have multiple accounts (wearing a yobit signature), are you going to ban them all?

Evading a ban is already against the rules, but this would prevent the defense that they “didn’t know” they were banned, or the possibility that someone will evade their ban and not get noticed they are evading the ban.

[stompix]

Wow, really surprised about the move.

Judging how the number of participants went up from 80 to 180 and then to over 300 probably by the time theymos look into it they were close to 500? Would be interesting to see how many posts they have made during these days and how much merit they've earned,I'm putting my bet on a 1:1000 ratio at best.

I'm also wondering if the guys behind stake are getting the message

Your dirty face is still missing. Go take a sedative and go to bed.

Yobithurt much?

Maybe let's even stop to chat on the forum?

Why would you care? From October last year you didn't post a single message till you enrolled in this campaign!

[coinlocket$]

Why would you care? From October last year you didn't post a single message till you enrolled in this campaign!

With that account, who knows with others, check his trust page.

For the count of the posts you can see here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134469.0

[LoyceV]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Brutal Thanks for the quick action, it's nice to see Admin draw a line.

[Thule]

Will only lead to one thing that now our beloved campaign managers yahoo,lauda etc reached their goal and are sending their help offer to Yobit to get their cut.

Let's see how quickly Yobit will be back with one of the known campaign managers.

[1miau]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

I think its time to be a Yobit-Hunter
(Gotta charged my phone first, will be back after a few hours )

So it's still possible to get them 14 days banned right now if I report a post and it will be marked as good post? I thought it's only for good reported comments before the signature got removed?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

That was swift and fair.

Indeed it was!  Now I'm sure there's going to be a barrage of complaint threads in Meta about this from the Yobit campaigners who got banned.  I'll probably have to stay away from this section for a bit, but we'll see.

Let's see how quickly Yobit will be back with one of the known campaign managers.

Well that's what they ought to do, just like any other campaign.  And if not that, they should at least raise their standards as far as the members they accept.  If they did that, the automated system would probably work out fine for everyone.

[rosezionjohn]

I think its time to be a Yobit-Hunter

I wonder what you're gonna do next  

Will only lead to one thing that now our beloved campaign managers yahoo,lauda etc reached their goal and are sending their help offer to Yobit to get their cut.

Let's see how quickly Yobit will be back with one of the known campaign managers.

I read that yahoo was approached by yobit first to manage their campaign before it was launched. The offer was most likely declined.

[scambust]

Some readers caught a Yobit spammer plagiarising one-liners  in the same thread - so much laziness, I guess they need to fill the 20 post quota. So, I reported the post to the moderator. That was three hours ago and still  0% accuracy.  

Anyway, I archived the posts just in case I have to elevate the offense.

[asche]

Some readers caught a Yobit spammer plagiarising one-liners

Please post it there with evidence. => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0

I'm pretty sure some global mod or some ban police is going through that thread on a regular basis.

[griffoninvest]

I know that you're busy and...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=240.0

This is all spam and Scam.

[asche]

So it's still possible to get them 14 days banned right now if I report a post and it will be marked as good post? I thought it's only for good reported comments before the signature got removed?

Not sure, but I reported a bunch of the posts hoping that this is the case.

[sonerbo]

So it's still possible to get them 14 days banned right now if I report a post and it will be marked as good post? I thought it's only for good reported comments before the signature got removed?

Not sure, but I reported a bunch of the posts hoping that this is the case.

You are spamming this thread with bull shit. You have been reported. Go search my post and report me. This is WAR baby !!!

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Could be time to lock all the Yobit threads now, they’re starting to get boring. theymos has started temp banning yobit spammers who have received at least 1 bad report any way so he is well aware of the issue.

I dunno if I’m alone in this thinking but there are sooooo many Yobit related threads & they’re getting tiresome.

[asche]

You are spamming this thread with bull shit. You have been reported. Go search my post and report me. This is WAR baby !!!

Bithurt because of this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg50694645#msg50694645

Please ban the User  sonerbo  for plagiarism , copy and paste !

What is your problem motherfucker you found a 2 years old post I just share in off topic and you are blaming me with plagiarism. its about artificial intelligent and I found it different thats why I shared in off-topic. Can you understand that off-TOPIC. I didnt shared is as a scientific article and as I wrote !!! Whats wrong with you I dont know but I dont give shit about that stupid issue !!

Edit : I just looked at your last posts and understood. You searched this because my YOBİT signature. When you big balls post shit like that half page while wearing Cryptoia signature  you are not spamming but if someone does with Yobit Heyyyy ban him bannn. You stupid motherfucker !!!!

[suchmoon]

Wow, really surprised about the move.

Judging how the number of participants went up from 80 to 180 and then to over 300 probably by the time theymos look into it they were close to 500? Would be interesting to see how many posts they have made during these days and how much merit they've earned,I'm putting my bet on a 1:1000 ratio at best.

~440 participants was the high water mark by my estimate. I don't have an exact number of posts with the signature because I don't know when someone joined or left, but here is a rough estimate:

• ~3700-3800 posts per day across all participants, compared to ~250 per day the same users were posting prior to the campaign, i.e. ~3500 extra posts each day what wouldn't have existed if not for Yobit. The campaign started on the 19th so perhaps 10k+ extra posts total.
• All of those users earned 81 merits in the last 4 days. This may include merits for older posts, not just ones posted with the signature.

[1miau]

So it's still possible to get them 14 days banned right now if I report a post and it will be marked as good post? I thought it's only for good reported comments before the signature got removed?

Not sure, but I reported a bunch of the posts hoping that this is the case.

Ok, I will give it a try. 
And their signature encourages people now to look at the post quality (and report if it's spam) 

Unfortunately BPIP doesn't show if someone is temporarily banned...
Or special user here: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=TillKoeln

[LTU_btc]

I participated in Yobit campaign since 2016 and I can't say that I was happy when I saw news about ban of Yobit signature campaign. But probably it was right and best solution made by theymos. If Yobit don't care about this forum and can't even hire manager for campaign, I don't think they should be allowed to have campaign here.
Probably it's first time when I see signatures of certain company banned here. Even signatures of worst shitcoin bounties weren't banned. This shows how bad Yobit campaign was.
@theymos, if after this ban Yobit would decide to start normal campaign with strict rules, manager and other needed stuff, would you allow them to do that?

[suchmoon]

what were we even discussing?.

trust bad merit system horrible abuse power hungry hippos gang colluding unfair system...

I don't think it was that much better. Bring Yobit back, at least we had something to hate together

[DaveF]

• ~3700-3800 posts per day across all participants, compared to ~250 per day the same users were posting prior to the campaign, i.e. ~3500 extra posts each day what wouldn't have existed if not for Yobit. The campaign started on the 19th so perhaps 10k+ extra posts total.
• All of those users earned 81 merits in the last 4 days. This may include merits for older posts, not just ones posted with the signature.

And 7 of those merits were mine.
So 1 user got 8 1/2 % of them.

How were the others dispersed? 1 here and there or were there just a few people who got a lot?

-Dave

[suchmoon]

How were the others dispersed? 1 here and there or were there just a few people who got a lot?

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Fortify earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence
Icygreen earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Icygreen earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Icygreen earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Icygreen earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
InvoKing earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
KimJongUnCoin earned 2 merit(s) for [ANN] KimJongUnCoin Algo:KimGO Full PoW Launch The Rockets soon
kurbeks earned 1 merit(s) for Re: [ANN] AXE 🔥 Decentralized ▲ X11 👾 Deterministic MN / PoW + PoSe
Loganota earned 1 merit(s) for Acelerador de Transações da Anubis Trade
marcotheminer earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Tracking the Trust System's Stupid Shit
Matthias9515 earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Catt token gizli hazine olabilir mi? Catex Exchange
Matthias9515 earned 2 merit(s) for Re: BTC/USD ve BTC/TRY Fiyat Takibi, Spekülasyon, Tartışma Alanı
mdayonliner earned 4 merit(s) for Re: YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)
mdayonliner earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
naturerock earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Can I get money from mining?
poptok1 earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Kobiety w krypto
Quidat earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Anybody know of any bicycle shops that accept bitcoin?
Quidat earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Putting idle money to work... Free Electricity- What GPU Mining Rigs to build?
Saint-loup earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Peut on retrouver un Wallet à partir de l'adresse public ?
Saint-loup earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Comparaison Blockchain/Cryptomonnaies
samputin earned 1 merit(s) for [TIPS] Aid in Good Quality Posting
samputin earned 2 merit(s) for [TIPS] Aid in Good Quality Posting
samputin earned 1 merit(s) for [TIPS] Aid in Good Quality Posting
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: [OPEN] BestMixer Signature Campaign | Sr. Members - Legendary | Up to 0.01225BTC
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Test: Brave Browser mit integrierten Wallet und BATs durch Werbeeinblendungen
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Sy earned 1 merit(s) for Re: TaaS — Tokenized Closed-End Fund
Virtual miner earned 1 merit(s) for Re: TradingView tips and tricks
Vongola earned 2 merit(s) for Re: How can I my profile IUD?
Zadicar earned 2 merit(s) for Re: YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)

[cabalism13]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

I think its time to be a Yobit-Hunter
(Gotta charged my phone first, will be back after a few hours )

My Reports has been considered as Good, now I'm wonder'n if those whom I've reported is already temp banned.


Can somebody make a list of those users who got the punishment? I'll be happy to see those lists.

[BlackMambaPH]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

I think its time to be a Yobit-Hunter
(Gotta charged my phone first, will be back after a few hours )

My Reports has been considered as Good, now I'm wonder'n if those whom I've reported is already temp banned.


Can somebody make a list of those users who got the punishment? I'll be happy to see those lists.

Try https://bpip.org/

I'm part of YoBit.net signature campaign but I'm not currently 60 days banned. I think it depends on the user if really spamming because of participating yobit signature campaign.

I do have some reports too that Yobit Signature participant is spamming.

Every time I change my signature to YoBit signature design the design turned to "Am I spamming? Report me!" "and yobit.net is banned from signatures".

Look at my signature space.

Some of my reported post:


Here's how you can view your reports: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine

[Fickle-Friend]

Wow, really surprised about the move.

Judging how the number of participants went up from 80 to 180 and then to over 300 probably by the time theymos look into it they were close to 500? Would be interesting to see how many posts they have made during these days and how much merit they've earned,I'm putting my bet on a 1:1000 ratio at best.

I'm also wondering if the guys behind stake are getting the message

Because of the hostility of other members, maybe many bounty participants used an alt account for this campaign.
In addition there had been a big debate about the campaign, and they participated to defend their views (which is not illegitimate
IMO) so I don't think there had been 3500 useless or spammy posts.

the yobit signature discussion came and stole the show

[Lauda]

Because of the hostility of other members, maybe many bounty participants used an alt account for this campaign.

Wrong. The only reason for which they used alt accounts is to abuse bounties. #TrustAbuse

[BlackMambaPH]

Because of the hostility of other members, maybe many bounty participants used an alt account for this campaign.

Wrong. The only reason for which they used alt accounts is to abuse bounties. #TrustAbuse

And sometimes they want to troll you. Lmao.

[lvsca]

so far, yobit bounty look like promising for all bounty hunter.
but, their rules is bad, max 20 post per day is same with bomb spam, everyone want to make 20 post per day.
am i should make 20 post per day? no, if i following yobit bounty, i only want to make up to 5 post per day. to risky for my account

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'm part of YoBit.net signature campaign but I'm not currently 60 days banned. I think it depends on the user if really spamming because of participating yobit signature campaign.

If I understand what Theymos did correctly, he banned members who'd had a post reported as spam against them marked good within the last month (?), but all Yobit sigs are disabled regardless of whether members got a ban or not.  So you obviously did not get banned, but you can't wear the Yobit signature for 60 days at least.  Who knows what's going to happen after that.  Yobit might rethink their decision to resurrect the campaign.

so far, yobit bounty look like promising for all bounty hunter.

Umm, given that a lot of them got banned and Theymos basically banned Yobit from advertising temporarily it doesn't look too promising to me.  It actually looks more promising for the forum itself right now, which personally I'm happy with.

[fronti]

Here's how you can view your reports: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine

Does anyone else see his reports following that link?

I only see that part

Code:

You have reported 233 posts with 96% accuracy (186 good, 8 bad, 39 unhandled). When a post is deleted, reports for it will sometimes stay in unhandled status for some time before moving to handled status. Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.

Reports start out unhandled, and are then either marked good, marked bad, or no moderator ever handles them and they stay unhandled. When a report stays unhandled, this does not mean that no moderators were available to look at it; rather, it means that several moderators looked at it, but none of them was sure whether it should be acted upon or not. A report that stays unhandled can be thought of as "soft-bad", since no moderator positively thought that it warranted action.

you will see your reports after you have 300 reports handled.
So just report a few more and you will get the link.

edit: its 300 good reports

[BlackMambaPH]

Here's how you can view your reports: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine

Does anyone else see his reports following that link?

I only see that part

Code:

You have reported 233 posts with 96% accuracy (186 good, 8 bad, 39 unhandled). When a post is deleted, reports for it will sometimes stay in unhandled status for some time before moving to handled status. Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.

Reports start out unhandled, and are then either marked good, marked bad, or no moderator ever handles them and they stay unhandled. When a report stays unhandled, this does not mean that no moderators were available to look at it; rather, it means that several moderators looked at it, but none of them was sure whether it should be acted upon or not. A report that stays unhandled can be thought of as "soft-bad", since no moderator positively thought that it warranted action.

You have the same situation with this user "cabalism13", he PMed me that he didn't see the status of the report. He's using mobile that. How about you?

[asche]

You have the same situation with this user "cabalism13", he PMed me that he didn't see the status of the report. He's using mobile that. How about you?

I'm not. But fronti just gave the answer? 300 reports are needed.

Thanks for the info btw @fronti

[poptok1]

Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

So basically a collective responsibility now?
Say hello to true communism folks   as this action was social justice at it's "finest".
Disappointing to say the least and yet understandable, there is to much pressure sometimes.
It's a sad day for this place it truly is. Absolutely zero Logos.   

[Lauda]

Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

So basically a collective responsibility now?
Say hello to true communism folks   as this action was social justice at it's "finest".
Disappointing to say the least and yet understandable, there is to much pressure sometimes.
It's a sad day for this place it truly is. Absolutely zero Logos.   

Yeah, as sad day because you don't get to shitpost for pennies? Indeed.

[poptok1]

Yeah, as sad day because you don't get to shitpost for pennies? Indeed.

And you are allowed to do the exact same thing 乁(♥ ʖ̯♥)ㄏ
so much justice, so many one liners wow

You don't get it, today another, tiny portion of your freedom was taken from you, by force.
Don't believe me? Look below, I did not typed this in to my(?) sig-box.
When "they" will come after your sig-space, who will defend it?
Censorship and false impression of handling things? This will continue and bitcoin will fall, mark my words.

[AdolfinWolf]

Yeah, as sad day because you don't get to shitpost for pennies? Indeed.

And you are allowed to do the exact same thing 乁(♥ ʖ̯♥)ㄏ
so much justice, so many one liners wow

You don't get it, today another, tiny portion of your freedom was taken from you, by force.

Contrary to what you may believe, shitposting for some pennies isn’t really a right...
It is but a mere privilege, which you have seem to abused.

[Lauda]

Yeah, as sad day because you don't get to shitpost for pennies? Indeed.

And you are allowed to do the exact same thing 乁(♥ ʖ̯♥)ㄏ
so much justice, so many one liners wow

You don't get it, today another, tiny portion of your freedom was taken from you, by force.

Contrary to what you may believe, shitposting for some pennies isn’t really a right...
It is but a mere privilege, which you have seem to abused.

But, but, private forum... wait no, this is communism! My guess is either he grew up in the US or has been reading their media outlets.

[poptok1]

Yeah, as sad day because you don't get to shitpost for pennies? Indeed.

And you are allowed to do the exact same thing 乁(♥ ʖ̯♥)ㄏ
so much justice, so many one liners wow

You don't get it, today another, tiny portion of your freedom was taken from you, by force.

Contrary to what you may believe, shitposting for some pennies isn’t really a right...

So why are you utilizing it? You think you are somehow different, better because you have a shitmixer signature and thus allowed to post one liners of zero value? Let me news flash you: you're not. You post is the display of hypocrisy and lack of interest in the future of this space. Sooner you realise how logos-less you are being here, the better for the sake of bitcointalk and bitcoin.

If you think I'm somewhat defending yobit here, you are mistaken. I'm just standing straight against the flow of false justice!  

[manfredmann]

Just report anything that you dont think is in accordance with forum rules and I am sure many other users will do the same. Unfortunately there are no rules in place when it comes to daily post count so users can pretty much post any number of posts.

A repory could not justify the spamming unless you report not the reply but a certain user to which admin can view all of its history posts. So, I think a report as a user not only a post is needed. It should be added below the name of user so that report could not only be specific and it could be how a user behave also in the forum.

[johnnywoo2015]

I'm not defending yobit, but i think ban signatures company it is not fair.  We've seen hundreds of companies shitcoins, blown topics and outright spam. Yobit need ogranichetsya 5 messages a day so  bounty hunter was more restrained.
Now signature company may participate only  Sr.Member and more higher. They don't have to violate for reward.

[DaveF]

How were the others dispersed? 1 here and there or were there just a few people who got a lot?

Ale88 earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Notizie spazzatura su bitcoin/blockchain
angel55 earned 1 merit(s) for Re: World Bank
angel55 earned 1 merit(s) for Re: ETH/USD: $150-160 as support?
angel55 earned 3 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
angel55 earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Bitcoin (BTC) Hits 400 Million Transactions
Anonylz earned 1 merit(s) for Re: YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)
asradoni earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Will the governments ban all privacy cryptocurrencies ?
Bitdonator earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Debitna kartica za kriptovalute
BlackMambaPH earned 1 merit(s) for Re: 🔷 YoBit.Net SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN 🔷
carlisle1 earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Can I still get wealthy through Bitcoin?
CodyAlfaridzi earned 1 merit(s) for Re: hacked account Spamming yobit sig
CodyAlfaridzi earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Sold Iota. But 0.0562 Iota stays at the balance; I can't sell it. Why is that?
CodyAlfaridzi earned 1 merit(s) for Re: bustabit – The original crash game
coupable earned 1 merit(s) for Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign?
CryptInvest earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Aнaлитикa, aнaлиз, пpoгнoзы.
CryptInvest earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Aнaлитикa, aнaлиз, пpoгнoзы.
CryptInvest earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Aнaлитикa, aнaлиз, пpoгнoзы.
DaveF earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Collecting Community input needed>> Definitions used in our unique hobby
DaveF earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Collecting Community input needed>> Definitions used in our unique hobby
DaveF earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Is 110V mining going away?
DaveF earned 1 merit(s) for Re: [AUCTION] Gold 2019 Bitcoin Penny
DaveF earned 1 merit(s) for Is 110V mining going away?
DaveF earned 1 merit(s) for Is 110V mining going away?
Fatunad earned 2 merit(s) for Re: YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)
feryjhie earned 4 merit(s) for Re: Pengiriman uang dengan bitcoin. Lebih murah ataukah lebih mahal?[Update Q1-2019]
Fortify earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence
Icygreen earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Icygreen earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Icygreen earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Icygreen earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
InvoKing earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
KimJongUnCoin earned 2 merit(s) for [ANN] KimJongUnCoin Algo:KimGO Full PoW Launch The Rockets soon
kurbeks earned 1 merit(s) for Re: [ANN] AXE 🔥 Decentralized ▲ X11 👾 Deterministic MN / PoW + PoSe
Loganota earned 1 merit(s) for Acelerador de Transações da Anubis Trade
marcotheminer earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Tracking the Trust System's Stupid Shit
Matthias9515 earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Catt token gizli hazine olabilir mi? Catex Exchange
Matthias9515 earned 2 merit(s) for Re: BTC/USD ve BTC/TRY Fiyat Takibi, Spekülasyon, Tartışma Alanı
mdayonliner earned 4 merit(s) for Re: YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)
mdayonliner earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
naturerock earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Can I get money from mining?
poptok1 earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Kobiety w krypto
Quidat earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Anybody know of any bicycle shops that accept bitcoin?
Quidat earned 2 merit(s) for Re: Putting idle money to work... Free Electricity- What GPU Mining Rigs to build?
Saint-loup earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Peut on retrouver un Wallet à partir de l'adresse public ?
Saint-loup earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Comparaison Blockchain/Cryptomonnaies
samputin earned 1 merit(s) for [TIPS] Aid in Good Quality Posting
samputin earned 2 merit(s) for [TIPS] Aid in Good Quality Posting
samputin earned 1 merit(s) for [TIPS] Aid in Good Quality Posting
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: [OPEN] BestMixer Signature Campaign | Sr. Members - Legendary | Up to 0.01225BTC
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: Test: Brave Browser mit integrierten Wallet und BATs durch Werbeeinblendungen
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Scheede earned 1 merit(s) for Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten???
Sy earned 1 merit(s) for Re: TaaS — Tokenized Closed-End Fund
Virtual miner earned 1 merit(s) for Re: TradingView tips and tricks
Vongola earned 2 merit(s) for Re: How can I my profile IUD?
Zadicar earned 2 merit(s) for Re: YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)

Interesting. Looks like most (not all) were people who had some good merit before and then got even more during the time frame. Now, with that being said it also looks like there were a few people who got merit for what *I* would think are "poor quality" posts but that is just my opinion. I'm sure some people could say the same about a few things I posted even though I thought they were good. What I have found interesting is that one of my posts was deleted by a mod when it was short and to the point and on topic.

In the end it's a big whatever. There are so many other issues with the forum that people getting upset with this is not worth getting stressed about.

Since I was briefly banned I did wind up drifting to another discussion forum for most of yesterday afternoon and evening. It was probably good to be away from here for a few hours anyway.

-Dave

[LoyceV]

I'm not defending yobit, but i think ban signatures company it is not fair.  We've seen hundreds of companies shitcoins, blown topics and outright spam.

Let's hope many more spammers will also be banned. This is the result of yobit completely ignoring the Signature Campaign Guidelines.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If you think I'm somewhat defending yobit here, you are mistaken. I'm just standing straight against the flow of false justice!  

I'm not going to post too many times in this thread, but I did see your posts and the thread you started in Serious Discussion and wanted to address this.  I supported--sort of--the Yobit campaign, and I was probably in the minority in doing so but I do think Theymos made the correct call on this.  A campaign run like that is just out of place today on bitcointalk, and I don't want to party like it's 2015. 

It isn't communism.  This is a private forum and isn't bitcoin itself, where decentralization is far more important.  It's a discussion forum and to remain useful there has to be some centralized leadership with a leader who possesses a sense of discipline, which I think Theymos has shown here.  The forum can't just descend into total anarchy because of a single signature campaign or any number of them. 

I'd be happy if Yobit restarted a campaign that resembled other successful ones.  I'd also be happy if they made some improvements in their own business which could restore their reputation.  It never was sparkling, but it needs a makeover and they need to treat their customers better.  But besides that, at the bare minimum they need to not create a campaign structure that promotes spamming, which is exactly what went on in the past few days.  Again, it was a good move on Theymos's part to put the brakes on it before it grew any more out of control than it did.

[seoincorporation]

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

Wise move, someone had to stop that massive spam, thanks for this theymos. I even think 129 users were enrolled for that signature, but that explains why 4 of each 5 signatures was from yobit.

[vlom]

just ban all paid sigs.

[actisstupidname]

just ban all paid sigs.

I bet all the drama would simply vanish and the forum will suddenly be more quiet and free from spam. The conversations would be more direct and with substance. But alas, the cabal needs the income too. Such hypocrisy.

[suzanne5223]

Finally, Sir theymos have taken a step against the Yobit signature campaign and it was really needed. And I am also waiting for that when someone from moderators will announce/talk about the signature campaign so that people can take any decision without any confusion about the yobit campaign. Obviously thanks to the theymos Sir, for clearing the issue and ban the signature.

Join any signature campaigns at your own risk.Moderators or admin is not responsible for it and already yobit was trashed from bitcointalk for 60 days so OP better lock this thread now.

Trashing Yobit for 60 days seems not to be the solution to me and I think the moderators should tell them or make them pay every individuals which they scammed acouple of weeks back because the 60days trashed does not cleanse them from all the accusations said about them.

[asche]

Here's how you can view your reports: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine

Does anyone else see his reports following that link?

I only see that part

Code:

You have reported 233 posts with 96% accuracy (186 good, 8 bad, 39 unhandled). When a post is deleted, reports for it will sometimes stay in unhandled status for some time before moving to handled status. Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.

Reports start out unhandled, and are then either marked good, marked bad, or no moderator ever handles them and they stay unhandled. When a report stays unhandled, this does not mean that no moderators were available to look at it; rather, it means that several moderators looked at it, but none of them was sure whether it should be acted upon or not. A report that stays unhandled can be thought of as "soft-bad", since no moderator positively thought that it warranted action.

Any clue why my post got deleted? Anyone?

[Sithara007]

I was a part of the previous Yobit signature campaign, which ran until 2018. I participated in it from 2015 to 2018. Initially they made payments on time, but later the delays were frequent. By the time I quit, I wasn't paid for more than 1 year, and close to 0.62 BTC was pending. So when I heard that they had relaunched their campaign, I logged in to the Yobit account to see what happened to my pending payment. It had vanished!!! I sent them a support ticket, reminding them about my pending payment. And two days later, the support ticket also vanished without any trace.

[asche]

I was a part of the previous Yobit signature campaign, which ran until 2018. I participated in it from 2015 to 2018. Initially they made payments on time, but later the delays were frequent. By the time I quit, I wasn't paid for more than 1 year, and close to 0.62 BTC was pending. So when I heard that they had relaunched their campaign, I logged in to the Yobit account to see what happened to my pending payment. It had vanished!!! I sent them a support ticket, reminding them about my pending payment. And two days later, the support ticket also vanished without any trace.

Best place for this would be a scam accusation thread.

From what I heard around some other people would be fueling it too.

I can only encourage you to gather the evidence you have and create it.

[Kavelj22]

If I understand what Theymos did correctly, he banned members who'd had a post reported as spam against them marked good within the last month (?), but all Yobit sigs are disabled regardless of whether members got a ban or not. 

Yes, the specific prohibition of signatures is that signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days. Today i found a funny thing:
User xLays still wears the yobit signature:

When checking the code in his signature, he has a link to a picture that says Fuck You Idiot.   

I don't expect the user changed it by himself as he previously admitted that he can't understand why his signature didn't get prohibitted.

Thymos disabled YoBit signature design but look I still wear Yobit signature design.   

Funny Theymos 
Archived for funny references. 

[asche]

Or maybe he was just baiting as many people as possible to find out about the "fuck you idiot" prank.

[darklus123]

offer % daily ponzi service, i think they will close down soon.
I doubt that they will be paying their signature participants.

If they are still the old mangement then yes, they are paying. If a shitty poster is not getting something from them then for sure they will no longer participate to that campaign but no. They are just a lot of them right now swarming up the threads and guess what some of them are actually adding the product to their post.


The only best solutions that I know for now is to suggest everyone to ignore yobit campaign members. In that case if there will be more people ignoring them we might be able to lessen their adverts

[Your Point Is Invalid]

offer % daily ponzi service, i think they will close down soon.
I doubt that they will be paying their signature participants.

If they are still the old mangement then yes, they are paying. If a shitty poster is not getting something from them then for sure they will no longer participate to that campaign but no. They are just a lot of them right now swarming up the threads and guess what some of them are actually adding the product to their post.


The only best solutions that I know for now is to suggest everyone to ignore yobit campaign members. In that case if there will be more people ignoring them we might be able to lessen their adverts

And what would happen when the yobit signature wearers leave the campaign or switch over to another? How would you know to unmute them?
I think what was suggested a few posts above was right, signature campaigns should be blocked, the forum doesn't need them.

[vapourminer]

The only best solutions that I know for now is to suggest everyone to ignore yobit campaign members. In that case if there will be more people ignoring them we might be able to lessen their adverts

And what would happen when the yobit signature wearers leave the campaign or switch over to another? How would you know to unmute them?

ummm, who cares?

if they start making good posts people who havent ignored them for whatever reason will quote them in replies. if i see enough good material in those quotes i would unignore them at that point.

that strategy has been working fine for me so far.

[darklus123]

And what would happen when the yobit signature wearers leave the campaign or switch over to another? How would you know to unmute them?

Ahm, does it make any good difference if they do transfer to another campaign having the same sh*t all over again? None and if they do improve as per @vapourminer you will surely know it by somebodies quote.

I think what was suggested a few posts above was right, signature campaigns should be blocked, the forum doesn't need them.

Yes you are right try to convince theymos then. A lot of people right now are actually enjoying the privilege. The forum doesn't need it but most of the people that are here are wanting to gain its benefits. We should have to be honest it is somehow keeping this forum alive but not clean. There are still no point if you ban signature campaign if this certain users are actually adding the ads to their actual posts which can be easily done. Then what? We are now going to block posting as well?

Sorry but I think your point is "Becoming Invalid"?



@vapourminer , I'm glad that you might not be having the yobit spamming fever by now lol

[shimbark123]

@vapourminer , I'm glad that you might not be having the yobit spamming fever by now lol

That strategy is not working for those hypocrites that are wearing signature and saying that "get a real job in finding bitcoin." Then you can see that they are wearing signatures and being paid by their post . This is how the forum works. Only known personalities and those attention seeker are "allowed" to join signature and earn money in this forum.

[TryNinja]

^ this.

Also, there is a huge difference between “posting and earning money” and “posting to earn money”. I don’t need this money, but it’s a nice way of gifting myself something cool from time to time and increasing my BTC holdings. If theymos ever bans signatures, whatever. I don’t live of this forum and that’s key. I actually care about this forum and enjoy being part of it. On the other side, there are so many people trying to make a living of this forum that most of them just turn into spammers to maximize their earnings.

Again, HUGE difference there. Just because you spam for money doesn’t mean that every signature campaign user does that as well. I criticize who spams for money and not who earns money here. Funny how all those people love screaming “hypocrites” while they don’t even understand this...

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I was a part of the previous Yobit signature campaign, which ran until 2018. I participated in it from 2015 to 2018. Initially they made payments on time, but later the delays were frequent.

Yeah, I was in it from the end of 2015 until maybe 2016 or so.  It seems like I was in that campaign for quite a while, and I liked it for the most part.  I do remember toward the end that the "send to account balance" button became inactive more and more, and I'd have to wait forever to claim my funds.

If you really did just get scammed by Yobit, that sucks and I feel for you.  That sort of crap doesn't really surprise me, and it's downright scammy if it doesn't get resolved.  I hope you do square it away with them, but I wouldn't keep my hopes up if I were you.  And yes, you ought to make a separate scam accusation thread with all the info and proof that you have.

Also, there is a huge difference between “posting and earning money” and “posting to earn money”. I don’t need this money, but it’s a nice way of gifting myself something cool from time to time and increasing my BTC holdings.

Agree, and even when I was in Yobit's campaign back in 2015 I had been here for months without a signature before I joined.  I genuinely enjoyed posting here and figured I might as well make some money while I was at it--and I still feel the same way today.  I'd be posting here anyway, regardless of whether I was in a campaign or not and I didn't find this forum by hearing about signature campaigns, which is the way a lot of folks get referred to bitcointalk.  Sad to say but I'd estimate that over 50% of members are here just to make money through campaigns.  Probably way over 50%.

[blurryeyed]

Sad to say but I'd estimate that over 50% of members are here just to make money through campaigns.  Probably way over 50%.

Agreed. I'd say nearer 75%.

[2girls]

I was a part of the previous Yobit signature campaign, which ran until 2018. I participated in it from 2015 to 2018. Initially they made payments on time, but later the delays were frequent.

Yeah, I was in it from the end of 2015 until maybe 2016 or so.  It seems like I was in that campaign for quite a while, and I liked it for the most part.  I do remember toward the end that the "send to account balance" button became inactive more and more, and I'd have to wait forever to claim my funds.

If you really did just get scammed by Yobit, that sucks and I feel for you.  That sort of crap doesn't really surprise me, and it's downright scammy if it doesn't get resolved.  I hope you do square it away with them, but I wouldn't keep my hopes up if I were you.  And yes, you ought to make a separate scam accusation thread with all the info and proof that you have.

Also, there is a huge difference between “posting and earning money” and “posting to earn money”. I don’t need this money, but it’s a nice way of gifting myself something cool from time to time and increasing my BTC holdings.

Agree, and even when I was in Yobit's campaign back in 2015 I had been here for months without a signature before I joined.  I genuinely enjoyed posting here and figured I might as well make some money while I was at it--and I still feel the same way today.  I'd be posting here anyway, regardless of whether I was in a campaign or not and I didn't find this forum by hearing about signature campaigns, which is the way a lot of folks get referred to bitcointalk.  Sad to say but I'd estimate that over 50% of members are here just to make money through campaigns.  Probably way over 50%.

So as per your statement (The Pharmacist), 50% percent of the people here for earning the money through campaigns. But you yourself was in yobit campaign back in 2015 and now in 2019, you're in Chip Mixer Campaign, to make money.

So Were you categorize yourself ?  Standing in those who are here to earn money ?

[TryNinja]

So as per your statement (The Pharmacist), 50% percent of the people here for earning the money through campaigns. But you yourself was in yobit campaign back in 2015 and now in 2019, you're in Chip Mixer Campaign, to make money.

So Were you categorize yourself ?  Standing in those who are here to earn money ?

Since it looks like you missed my post (which The Pharmacists are referencing it to):

Also, there is a huge difference between “posting and earning money” and “posting to earn money”. I don’t need this money, but it’s a nice way of gifting myself something cool from time to time and increasing my BTC holdings.

Being part of a campaign in no moment makes anyone wrong or "here to make money".

And his post already answers your question:

I'd be posting here anyway, regardless of whether I was in a campaign or not [...]

[AdolfinWolf]

So why are you utilizing it? You think you are somehow different, better because you have a shitmixer signature and thus allowed to post one liners of zero value? Let me news flash you: you're not. You post is the display of hypocrisy and lack of interest in the future of this space. Sooner you realise how logos-less you are being here, the better for the sake of bitcointalk and bitcoin.

If you think I'm somewhat defending yobit here, you are mistaken. I'm just standing straight against the flow of false justice!  

How can you promote something but not stand behind it?

I'm just standing straight against the flow of false justice!  

That's what you call a legion of users who advertise ponzi/HYIP/pump & dump schemes, at cost of the readability of the forum?

You think you are somehow different, better because you have a shitmixer signature and thus allowed to post one liners of zero value? Let me news flash you: you're not. You post is the display of hypocrisy and lack of interest in the future of this space. Sooner you realise how logos-less you are being here, the better for the sake of bitcointalk and bitcoin.

As far as i know, I've never promoted a HYIP or pump & dump scheme knowing what they'd do to unknowing investors. (You clearly do, as you don't even bother defending them?)

You think you are somehow different, better because you have a shitmixer signature and thus allowed to post one liners of zero value?

I'm pretty sure if i were, i'd get kicked out rather quickly. But hey what do you know..

[poptok1]

How can you promote something but not stand behind it?

I don't know, ask admins that promote various stuff in the adds and yet they do not endorse them.
Or better, ask tv channels why they promote overpriced pottery, pillows and gadgets and even charge serious money for it, but when asked they will most likely say "we just doing our job"

That's what you call a legion of users who advertise ponzi/HYIP/pump & dump schemes, at cost of the readability of the forum?

Now that's just trolling. Reported.

As far as i know, I've never promoted a HYIP or pump & dump scheme knowing what they'd do to unknowing investors.

No such thing as unknowing investors, that's an oxymoron.
 

I'm pretty sure if i were, i'd get kicked out rather quickly. But hey what do you know..

Wow you where able to post four lines now, bravo! Still completely about nothing, for the sake of posting and attaching me with your false premise. Zero arguments, zero consistency, with factual error and slander. You are nothing more than a pay2post abuser, with nothing interesting to say.     

[blurryeyed]

@poptok1: Did you forget your own poem?:

THE LINE
Many days without a word from exchange,
7 days past payment deadline,
Is this the practice of this exchange?
I guess I have to draw a line...
__________________________

The line is thin, so as our patience
Waiting in queue like a fool!
Willing to wait until you're ancient?
Or maybe send THEM back to school?

Nobody is taking any action,
No one's preparing a battering ram
Am I the only with reaction?
Is it the time to call this a scam?

You open a scam accusation against an exchange after only 7 days - that's nothing. Some, no many, if not hundreds of Yobit users have been waiting years for their coins with no resolution - completely ignored. Yet here you are moaning about their bad press/rap on the forum? It makes no sense.

[AdolfinWolf]

Wow you where able to post four lines now, bravo! Still completely about nothing, for the sake of posting and attaching me with your false premise. Zero arguments, zero consistency, with factual error and slander. You are nothing more than a pay2post abuser, with nothing interesting to say.     

I guess that makes two of us, considering all your logical fallacies, tu quoque, and strawmanning.

[poptok1]

@poptok1: Did you forget your own poem?:

No, i did not forget about this. Not the greatest poem ever written though
You see, I stated multiple times that I'm not about yobit here. BTW they have paid me for the posts before the ban, I was using them since 2016, and have had zero issues. Not a single satoshi was stolen from me by them. More to that, the owner (herzog?) gave me even couple of thousand satoshis for being nice to people on chat... Do I think it's a good exchange? By all means no, it's not. It's decent enough, sometimes confusing and full of temptations but as open and free as all exchanges where 5 years ago.
It's Russian and it's more of an open, free market than everything else today, that's why you people hate it so much.
You have found yourself a "beating boy" and you beating it, but most people who where cheated or felt in some sort of yobi-trap, did this due to their own incompetence or greed.

 
I guess that makes two of us, considering all your logical fallacies, tu quoque, and strawmanning.

Another one-liner only proves my point. Have a nice day spammer  

[legendster]

I recently got their mail on my inbox. Their rates are tempting but I don't understand the hostility towards Yobit. Stake.com were encouraging users to post for micro peanuts that has resulted in way more spam than any other campaign. Compared to that Yobit looked pretty decent.

Please help me understand.

[DarkStar_]

Another one-liner only proves my point. Have a nice day spammer  

Fun fact: Quality > Quantity
I strongly encourage you to report his 'spam' posts if you feel that way so that they are deleted and not paid for.

You've posted one-liners before, but I don't think they count as spam. For example:

Maybe I should, but I don't. This is a python install !

type in to your console:

Code:

python3 electrum

Essentially one line (7 words), but it's helpful and constructive.

[The-One-Above-All]

I recently got their mail on my inbox. Their rates are tempting but I don't understand the hostility towards Yobit. Stake.com were encouraging users to post for micro peanuts that has resulted in way more spam than any other campaign. Compared to that Yobit looked pretty decent.

Please help me understand.

If you had any experience as a trader there you would understand encouraging any member to join and use the service is a bait to get their btc zapped away. They close down wallets for years and create their own markets. Totally bogus, and any campaign manager taking them on is going to be ripe target for facilitating members getting scammed.

If they pull their act together and bring their wallets all back on line and allow people to withdraw their coins then perhaps....

[UmerIdrees]

I recently got their mail on my inbox. Their rates are tempting but I don't understand the hostility towards Yobit. Stake.com were encouraging users to post for micro peanuts that has resulted in way more spam than any other campaign. Compared to that Yobit looked pretty decent.

Please help me understand.

If you read Yobit terms and conditions, two things were very obvious.

1-  They will not accept Negative Red Trust Members
2-  They will not accept people who have ling period of inactivity.

Then, How come Yobit started to pay everyone (even Red trusted Members)  ?  They could have been restricted with their selections and that could have saved them money also.

[Chris!]

This has been an issue for literally years. Just put every yoshit spammer on ignore and you're golden. It's very easy.

[AdolfinWolf]

Another one-liner only proves my point. Have a nice day spammer  

Which is? That post was 98 characters long. I didn't get paid for that. Nor for this one.

[Tyrantt]

I recently got their mail on my inbox. Their rates are tempting but I don't understand the hostility towards Yobit. Stake.com were encouraging users to post for micro peanuts that has resulted in way more spam than any other campaign. Compared to that Yobit looked pretty decent.

Please help me understand.

If you read Yobit terms and conditions, two things were very obvious.

1-  They will not accept Negative Red Trust Members
2-  They will not accept people who have ling period of inactivity.

Then, How come Yobit started to pay everyone (even Red trusted Members)  ?  They could have been restricted with their selections and that could have saved them money also.

They accept the forsaken as well? Holy shit, I gotta run over there right now.

[starmman]

Seems a little draconian / heavy handed to me, why not ban all sig campaigns? Most of the posts that I saw from yobit users (myself included) were constructive - however there were more posts than usual in the pages that I frequent for the few days that the campaign was active.

[asche]

Seems a little draconian / heavy handed to me, why not ban all sig campaigns? Most of the posts that I saw from yobit users (myself included) were constructive

Proof of your being constructive is the fact you did not get banned.

However I can assure you it wasn't a majority of constructive posts.

I only did a dive in the postings of 10 members or so, that were posting 20 posts/day, and I can guarantee there was nothing related to quality in their posts.

Of course SOME of you had good intentions and were respectful of the forum, but again that's only some of you.

Theymos or nobody would have anything against that campaign if only quality posts were counted, however this is not the case.

Reboot the campaign with a decent manager on forum and everything will go well I suppose.

[gentlemand]

Seems a little draconian / heavy handed to me, why not ban all sig campaigns? Most of the posts that I saw from yobit users (myself included) were constructive - however there were more posts than usual in the pages that I frequent for the few days that the campaign was active.

There were indeed some proper users who were signed up and being themselves as ever, but they were definitely a small minority. I noticed something was up before becoming aware that Yobit was alive again.

It was totally the right thing to do. It just goes to show the tsunami waiting to be unleashed if the slightest chance to exploit the shit out of everything emerges.

[starmman]

Seems a little draconian / heavy handed to me, why not ban all sig campaigns? Most of the posts that I saw from yobit users (myself included) were constructive

Proof of your being constructive is the fact you did not get banned.

However I can assure you it wasn't a majority of constructive posts.

I only did a dive in the postings of 10 members or so, that were posting 20 posts/day, and I can guarantee there was nothing related to quality in their posts.

Of course SOME of you had good intentions and were respectful of the forum, but again that's only some of you.

Theymos or nobody would have anything against that campaign if only quality posts were counted, however this is not the case.

Reboot the campaign with a decent manager on forum and everything will go well I suppose.

I'd been signed up to the yobit sig for a few years - and tend to only post on a few threads - so I probably missed the bulk of the spammy posts.

[LoyceV]

So why are you utilizing it? You think you are somehow different, better because you have a shitmixer signature and thus allowed to post one liners of zero value? Let me news flash you: you're not. You post is the display of hypocrisy and lack of interest in the future of this space. Sooner you realise how logos-less you are being here, the better for the sake of bitcointalk and bitcoin.

If you think I'm somewhat defending yobit here, you are mistaken. I'm just standing straight against the flow of false justice!  

How can you promote something but not stand behind it?

Millions of people working in the advertising business do this for a living, and most people seem to accept that.
But for those people, there's no direct link to their own personal reputation and the product they advertise.

In a way, advertising something in your signature is like using a celebrity's name to advertise a certain product. If the product is bad, chances are no moviestar wants to use his name for it. That doesn't matter for account farmers with dozens of accounts, which is why so many accounts reactivated to join the Yobit campaign and start spamming.

[tranthidung]

many accounts reactivated to join the Yobit campaign and start spamming.

With the serious response from theymos on Yobit campaign, I thought that we might have new unofficial rule on campaigns the potentially cause spamming in the forum:
(1) Participants will get different temp bans: depend on total bad reports on their works during specific period (7 days, for instance), and percentage of good (exact) reports on their posts.
(2) Temp ban on signatures of those companies: 60 days (for Yobit), but the period of signature temp ban might be discussed and should have 3 or 4 levels, like what we have with the forum account's temp ban: 7 days, 14 days, 30 days, and last one is perm ban.
(3) Temp ban of signature on campaign managers whom run spamming campaigns and keep running them after get warnings from admin, staffs, DT members. It means they won't be able to advertise their campaign management roles via their signatures.

[eaLiTy]

I recently got their mail on my inbox. Their rates are tempting but I don't understand the hostility towards Yobit. Stake.com were encouraging users to post for micro peanuts that has resulted in way more spam than any other campaign. Compared to that Yobit looked pretty decent.

Please help me understand.

The problem was that many accounts who were inactive for a long time started waking up and there is no restrictions what so ever and negative trust was also allowed with the way things were going, i am not sure about it but i have seen a few users with negative trust wearing the signature and come on 140 post a week is just too much, the major problem with me is their way in which the exchange is run, with all the scam tokens just to pump and dump and i am not sure whether they changed anything.

[legendster]

Then, How come Yobit started to pay everyone (even Red trusted Members)  ?  They could have been restricted with their selections and that could have saved them money also.

I haven't been in their program and I have no clue if they have paid other red tagged members.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

The problem was that many accounts who were inactive for a long time started waking up and there is no restrictions what so ever and negative trust was also allowed with the way things were going, i am not sure about it but i have seen a few users with negative trust wearing the signature and come on 140 post a week is just too much, the major problem with me is their way in which the exchange is run, with all the scam tokens just to pump and dump and i am not sure whether they changed anything.

Most people, like me got an email. Typically for any signature campaign on BTT no one is "notified by email" that something is launching. No wonder many accounts 'woke up'.

And let's not act like pump and dumps are limited to Yobit only.

[LTU_btc]

I haven't been in their program and I have no clue if they have paid other red tagged members.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

There was few red trusted users users like mdayonliner who said that they got paid from Yobit campaign. There is no way how we can verify it, but I think there is no point them to lie and wear Yobit signature for free.
But probably it was not intentional mistake by Yobit, they just didn't adjusted their bot to reject red trusted users. Same like they didn't adjusted their payment rates. They planned to pay 0.00016 BTC per post, but in first day after relaunch of campaign all participants got 0.0003 BTC per post.

[AdolfinWolf]

So why are you utilizing it? You think you are somehow different, better because you have a shitmixer signature and thus allowed to post one liners of zero value? Let me news flash you: you're not. You post is the display of hypocrisy and lack of interest in the future of this space. Sooner you realise how logos-less you are being here, the better for the sake of bitcointalk and bitcoin.

If you think I'm somewhat defending yobit here, you are mistaken. I'm just standing straight against the flow of false justice!  

How can you promote something but not stand behind it?

Millions of people working in the advertising business do this for a living, and most people seem to accept that.
But for those people, there's no direct link to their own personal reputation and the product they advertise.

Sure, i agree with most of what you're saying, but most if not all advertisements about financial services or instruments with extremely high risk are advertised as such, with at least something like a disclaimer.
(And, as you said, they are usually not done on personal title..)

I mean sure, crypto is an unregulated space and such, but you'd expect some common sense from certain people here.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

Multiple red trusted users were gloating about the fact that they got balance added to their account. I don't think they really have any real motive to lie about that. Perhaps yobit didn't pay them out in the end ofcourse, that's on them.

Most people, like me got an email. Typically for any signature campaign on BTT no one is "notified by email" that something is launching. No wonder many accounts 'woke up'.

And let's not act like pump and dumps are limited to Yobit only.

I'm just curious.. What exchange as "established" as yobit (or more or less comparable in volume), is orchestrating pump and dumps? Genuinely interested to know..

[JaredKaragen]

I haven't been in their program and I have no clue if they have paid other red tagged members.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

There was few red trusted users users like mdayonliner who said that they got paid from Yobit campaign. There is no way how we can verify it, but I think there is no point them to lie and wear Yobit signature for free.
But probably it was not intentional mistake by Yobit, they just didn't adjusted their bot to reject red trusted users. Same like they didn't adjusted their payment rates. They planned to pay 0.00016 BTC per post, but in first day after relaunch of campaign all participants got 0.0003 BTC per post.

Ill admit;  I was with yobit's sig campaign for a LONG time;  and that's just because it paid the most (years ago when I signed up) and continued to pay right up to the end (for me).   I never relied on these funds; and TBH; never once did I post just to get paid....   It was a nice bonus to get a kickback for doing the shit i'd be doing anyways.

I never shitposted; and rarely left one-line responses unless busy, fed up with the person im responding to, or just flat out the answer was 1-3 words.     Yobit's sig campaign didn't increase my post count;  my post count followed the speed of the market, and changes with the mining software as I was always updating scripts, batches, or just helping out others.  Just like how its been slow in crypto for the last ~year.  My post history reflects it because of my type of activities.

I was never banned;  or anything similar; but I would have appreciated knowledge of this discussion before finding out the ass-wrong-way.... maybe notify legendary members of something like this in the future.  Coming in and thinking my 2FA has been hacked because my signatures are changed.... Not fun.


I have heard a LOT about people saying they weren't paid from yobit for this or that.    Most people either walked me into a scenario where they were scammed, or they deposited to the wrong wallet;  expecting a person on the blind "other end" to undo their fuck-up(s).  The delayed campaign payouts were a thing;  but  they always eventually worked;  im pretty sure a yobit owner has an alert that they acknowledge to be able to pay you out...   and Ive only seen payouts processed when I saw active moderators in chat that weren't dominickerzog or whatever his actual username is...

When blockchain fees were at their highest for BTC;  I actually caught them in some pretty shady activity.  They were taking an extra 1.5mBTC (over $20 back then) per withdraw; to "speed up the transactions" via their twitter post.  When the backlog of TX's died, and the extra TX for speed-of-processing fees was not necessary anymore;  they were still charging that fee for over 3 months.   I messaged them about it;  wherein their response was unambiguously that they were transparent in the reasoning for the fee... which they were still charging.   But what I pointed out and what got ignored from then-on:  was the fact that  the TX they sent me to my wallet;  had a fee that 1/2 the original TX fee withheld, not including the "extra speed fee" that was taken from me to "speed up the transaction".     The next day;  their withdraw fee went back to ~1mbit.

Not to mention the fact that, I am pretty sure they are purposefully running certain coins on bad chains;  like VSync;  (XVS/VSX)  they have been purposefully continuing a forked chain for about 2 years+ now.

If their staking wallet forks off a bad chain;  they leave it;  this way they have all of the infrastructure to continue selling it on their platform; and continually liquidating $ out of people.

Yobit's fake volume was easy to spot:  recoccouring buys/sells at the same value that made no sense given the state of the coin's market, buys/sells that were smaller than the minimum you could do from the webpage,  and buys/sell orders that popped up together and went away together....

Lots of fake volumes, but almost always on their own shitcoins they continually ICO'd and dumped.

[FIFA worldcup]

I haven't been in their program and I have no clue if they have paid other red tagged members.

Hold on for a minute how did anyone find out if red tagged members were paid in the first place? All the payments are sent in the yobit balance and its not shown publicly anywhere about which users are enrolled and when they're paid.

So who spread this information about red tagged accounts getting paid? Might it be that that person himself is a multiaccount farmer (possibly with a red tagged account)?

There was few red trusted users users like mdayonliner who said that they got paid from Yobit campaign. There is no way how we can verify it, but I think there is no point them to lie and wear Yobit signature for free.
But probably it was not intentional mistake by Yobit, they just didn't adjusted their bot to reject red trusted users. Same like they didn't adjusted their payment rates. They planned to pay 0.00016 BTC per post, but in first day after relaunch of campaign all participants got 0.0003 BTC per post.

Yobit did not did their homework well in resuming their campaign. I wonder why were they in a hurry to start the campaign if they have not tested the bots.

Giving more than the stated amount as pey per post, enrolling and paying Red trusted accounts (when they have mentioned that they will not accept them) etc are few examples of their mis-management.

They corrected the Pay per post issue on the 2nd day, but before they could further solve the red trust enrollment issue, Theymos rightly acted and get rid of their campaign altogether.

For sure, this forum is independent from Yobit  and no one should be allowed to misuse the forum for their own wrong doings.

[feryjhie]

didn't theymos already ban yobit signature so every time we want to change into yobit it changes to am I spamming right?
but i see this account (alyssa85) still able to wear the yobit signature

[snipie]

didn't theymos already ban yobit signature so every time we want to change into yobit it changes to am I spamming right?
but i see this account (alyssa85) still able to wear the yobit signature

I saw someone wearing yobit signature with a link not redirecting to yobit site, but this user link is redirecting there! weird..

[blurryeyed]

didn't theymos already ban yobit signature so every time we want to change into yobit it changes to am I spamming right?
but i see this account (alyssa85) still able to wear the yobit signature

Thanks for pointing this out - I have reported the user to moderators.

[JaredKaragen]

And less than 24 hours after I made that reply above, they disabled the freecoins section....    coincidence?  probably.

I highly suggest anyone who knows the hot wallet addresses watch the funds and see where they go.  it should be easy to deduce many of the active cold wallet addresses as they are still actively running....

[Natalim]

didn't theymos already ban yobit signature so every time we want to change into yobit it changes to am I spamming right?
but i see this account (alyssa85) still able to wear the yobit signature

I saw someone wearing yobit signature with a link not redirecting to yobit site, but this user link is redirecting there! weird..

I've seen this user actively posting using yobit signature, I would like to know how they bypass the signature ban.
This one as well, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138339.msg50861221#msg50861221 , he is wearing a hero signature, they must do some kind of trick or there's a new update that we are not aware of.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I've seen this user actively posting using yobit signature, I would like to know how they bypass the signature ban.
This one as well, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138339.msg50861221#msg50861221 , he is wearing a hero signature, they must do some kind of trick or there's a new update that we are not aware of.

It's probably because the ban has been lifted for specific users.
That particular user had a ban massage showing on his signature a few hours earlier one but now it's showing a yobit signature again.

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> It's probably because the ban has been lifted.

Not really, the Campaign has a running 60 day ban. The two cases presented above are really a prior version of the Yobit Campaign’s signature, from some point in the past. Notice that both @Dudeperfect and @alyssa85 have a Yobit signature that refers to "over 350 coins". The current (banned) signature references "over 1450 coins".

There are a handful more profiles I’ve seen still bearing that old version of the signature.

[JaredKaragen]

the signature hasn't been updated for like ~2 years...

[crairezx20]

<…> It's probably because the ban has been lifted.

Not really, the Campaign has a running 60 day ban. The two cases presented above are really a prior version of the Yobit Campaign’s signature, from some point in the past. Notice that both @Dudeperfect and @alyssa85 have a Yobit signature that refers to "over 350 coins". The current (banned) signature references "over 1450 coins".

There are a handful more profiles I’ve seen still bearing that old version of the signature.

After clicking the signature it redirects me to yobit[.]io which is not yobit[.]net.

According to Theymos only users who wearing signature with yobit[.]net will be ban that is why they are still actively posting without worrying to get ban.

I'm sure these 2 accounts is the same user because he knows what yobit link is banned on the forum and I'm sure they are both paid for every post they made because yobit[.]io is connected to yobit[.]net

[LoyceV]

After clicking the signature it redirects me to yobit[.]io which is not yobit[.]net.

That doesn't make sense: when I check alyssa85's signature, it links to .net. This is the HTML source:

Code:

<a class="ul" href="https://yobit.net">

There is no ~bit.io on the entire page.

[Thirdspace]

After clicking the signature it redirects me to yobit[.]io which is not yobit[.]net.

That doesn't make sense: when I check alyssa85's signature, it links to .net. This is the HTML source:

Code:

<a class="ul" href="https://yobit.net">

There is no ~bit.io on the entire page.

could it be the older style signature of yobit?
perhaps theymos removed all yobit signature based on current signature style and missed a few older ones
if he had checked url links on sig space, I think this wouldn't have happened 

[JaredKaragen]

After clicking the signature it redirects me to yobit[.]io which is not yobit[.]net.

That doesn't make sense: when I check alyssa85's signature, it links to .net. This is the HTML source:

Code:

<a class="ul" href="https://yobit.net">

There is no ~bit.io on the entire page.

could it be the older style signature of yobit?
perhaps theymos removed all yobit signature based on current signature style and missed a few older ones
if he had checked url links on sig space, I think this wouldn't have happened 

in their sig campaign thread;  you have to go through the pages to find all of the originals... they never kept them in just one place.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Not really, the Campaign has a running 60 day ban. The two cases presented above are really a prior version of the Yobit Campaign’s signature, from some point in the past. Notice that both @Dudeperfect and @alyssa85 have a Yobit signature that refers to "over 350 coins". The current (banned) signature references "over 1450 coins".

There are a handful more profiles I’ve seen still bearing that old version of the signature.

For real i saw @Dudeperfect with something like a "Yobit.net signature is banned" on his sig space earlier on unless i was hallucinating 
Maybe what's happening is the yobit chaps have found a way of encouraging users to wear old yobit signatures that have yobit.io link which was not banned whilst displaying Yobit.net on the signature for people to see

[Natalim]

Not really, the Campaign has a running 60 day ban. The two cases presented above are really a prior version of the Yobit Campaign’s signature, from some point in the past. Notice that both @Dudeperfect and @alyssa85 have a Yobit signature that refers to "over 350 coins". The current (banned) signature references "over 1450 coins".

There are a handful more profiles I’ve seen still bearing that old version of the signature.

For real i saw @Dudeperfect with something like a "Yobit.net signature is banned" on his sig space earlier on unless i was hallucinating 
Maybe what's happening is the yobit chaps have found a way of encouraging users to wear old yobit signatures that have yobit.io link which was not banned whilst displaying Yobit.net on the signature for people to see

I can't agree that it's only because of the old signature code, the two users stated above have you directed to yobit.net or yobit.io.
Maybe we need someone who are not currently in a campaign to wear the old signature and then get his feed back.

The old sig can be found in this thread, right?

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Maybe what's happening is the yobit chaps have found a way of encouraging users to wear old yobit signatures that have yobit.io link which was not banned whilst displaying Yobit.net on the signature for people to see

Don't think so, if that was the case by now the news would had been all round the forum just like how fast the signature announcement news spread within hours. Although since I can't find any news of cancellation of the campaign by Yobit or testimony from users getting paid for still wearing signature, i might just conclude this guys are just wearing the signature either to pissed off members against the campaign or simply waiting for an opening in other campaign.

[crairezx20]

After clicking the signature it redirects me to yobit[.]io which is not yobit[.]net.

That doesn't make sense: when I check alyssa85's signature, it links to .net. This is the HTML source:

Code:

<a class="ul" href="https://yobit.net">

There is no ~bit.io on the entire page.

No sorry I'm talking about Dudeperfect look check his signature the link yobit[.]io
Just archive it for future reference if anything changes in his account http://archive.is/xgydd

[feryjhie]

Not really, the Campaign has a running 60 day ban. The two cases presented above are really a prior version of the Yobit Campaign’s signature, from some point in the past. Notice that both @Dudeperfect and @alyssa85 have a Yobit signature that refers to "over 350 coins". The current (banned) signature references "over 1450 coins".

There are a handful more profiles I’ve seen still bearing that old version of the signature.

For real i saw @Dudeperfect with something like a "Yobit.net signature is banned" on his sig space earlier on unless i was hallucinating 
Maybe what's happening is the yobit chaps have found a way of encouraging users to wear old yobit signatures that have yobit.io link which was not banned whilst displaying Yobit.net on the signature for people to see

I can't agree that it's only because of the old signature code, the two users stated above have you directed to yobit.net or yobit.io.
Maybe we need someone who are not currently in a campaign to wear the old signature and then get his feed back.

The old sig can be found in this thread, right?

i already told my friend who is not wearing signature at the moment and he wears the old signature but it still "Yobit.net signature is banned"
for the @dudeperfect can wear it because it contains yobit.io but for @alyssa85 cases it contains yobit.net but it still not banned

[crairezx20]

I can't agree that it's only because of the old signature code, the two users stated above have you directed to yobit.net or yobit.io.
Maybe we need someone who are not currently in a campaign to wear the old signature and then get his feed back.

The old sig can be found in this thread, right?

i already told my friend who is not wearing signature at the moment and he wears the old signature but it still "Yobit.net signature is banned"
for the @dudeperfect can wear it because it contains yobit.io but for @alyssa85 cases it contains yobit.net but it still not banned

I think if someone reported him as spammer with proof he will be banned soon but if no one reported him maybe he can be still wearing it until other user found that he is spamming.  That is why he still alive not ban yet.

[DdmrDdmr]

There’s another account pointing to the  ".net" site of Yobit, but that one too bears the old style signature as hasn’t even been active for months: bitcoinboy12. Perhaps the ".net" domain was not the single used term to implement the ban, as some old signatures seem to have managed to slip through the signature ban effect (without a posterior change in the signature itself).

[Dudeperfect]

I can't agree that it's only because of the old signature code, the two users stated above have you directed to yobit.net or yobit.io.
Maybe we need someone who are not currently in a campaign to wear the old signature and then get his feed back.

The old sig can be found in this thread, right?

i already told my friend who is not wearing signature at the moment and he wears the old signature but it still "Yobit.net signature is banned"
for the @dudeperfect can wear it because it contains yobit.io but for @alyssa85 cases it contains yobit.net but it still not banned

I think if someone reported him as spammer with proof he will be banned soon but if no one reported him maybe he can be still wearing it until other user found that he is spamming.  That is why he still alive not ban yet.

Not really, the Campaign has a running 60 day ban. The two cases presented above are really a prior version of the Yobit Campaign’s signature, from some point in the past. Notice that both @Dudeperfect and @alyssa85 have a Yobit signature that refers to "over 350 coins". The current (banned) signature references "over 1450 coins".

There are a handful more profiles I’ve seen still bearing that old version of the signature.

For real i saw @Dudeperfect with something like a "Yobit.net signature is banned" on his sig space earlier on unless i was hallucinating 
Maybe what's happening is the yobit chaps have found a way of encouraging users to wear old yobit signatures that have yobit.io link which was not banned whilst displaying Yobit.net on the signature for people to see

I can't agree that it's only because of the old signature code, the two users stated above have you directed to yobit.net or yobit.io.
Maybe we need someone who are not currently in a campaign to wear the old signature and then get his feed back.

The old sig can be found in this thread, right?

i already told my friend who is not wearing signature at the moment and he wears the old signature but it still "Yobit.net signature is banned"
for the @dudeperfect can wear it because it contains yobit.io but for @alyssa85 cases it contains yobit.net but it still not banned

Since I was not active on this forum, I was not having much idea of what's happening. Now, I have removed the signature and I DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION TO PROMOTE SPAM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I hope that my good track record is enough to explain my intentions. Thanks for highlighting it and bringing it to my notice. Let me know if I have to post this as a signed message to confirm my identity.

Best,
Dudeperfect

[bitbollo]

And less than 24 hours after I made that reply above, they disabled the freecoins section....    coincidence?  probably.

I highly suggest anyone who knows the hot wallet addresses watch the funds and see where they go.  it should be easy to deduce many of the active cold wallet addresses as they are still actively running....

I don't think so. They have suspended temporary, probably just because they got out of ETC to distribute

[JaredKaragen]

And less than 24 hours after I made that reply above, they disabled the freecoins section....    coincidence?  probably.

I highly suggest anyone who knows the hot wallet addresses watch the funds and see where they go.  it should be easy to deduce many of the active cold wallet addresses as they are still actively running....

I don't think so. They have suspended temporary, probably just because they got out of ETC to distribute

I have a serious gut feeling that is not the case... but we will see...


legitimately happened within hours of my post though.....

[bitbollo]

And less than 24 hours after I made that reply above, they disabled the freecoins section....    coincidence?  probably.

I highly suggest anyone who knows the hot wallet addresses watch the funds and see where they go.  it should be easy to deduce many of the active cold wallet addresses as they are still actively running....

I don't think so. They have suspended temporary, probably just because they got out of ETC to distribute

I have a serious gut feeling that is not the case... but we will see...


legitimately happened within hours of my post though.....

Hi I am sorry but I can't understand this passage already.
What is the link with your post and freecoins on yobit?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133809.msg50845155#msg50845155

[Natalim]

Since I was not active on this forum, I was not having much idea of what's happening. Now, I have removed the signature and I DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION TO PROMOTE SPAM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I hope that my good track record is enough to explain my intentions. Thanks for highlighting it and bringing it to my notice. Let me know if I have to post this as a signed message to confirm my identity.

Best,
Dudeperfect

It's not necessary anymore, good that you remove the signature.
Anyways, we are just curious here how come members can still wear the signature when it was already temp ban in the forum.

The discussion was only focus on the signature and not on its members.

True that there are spammers who wears yobit sig but not all of them, spammers were already ban for doing so.
So, if you were not ban, that means you are not a spammer. 

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

The discussion was only focus on the signature and not on its members.

From the look of things we also did forcus on the members that's why those that had one good report against them as spammers were banned by theymos. If we did only forcus on the campaign then only the signature would had been banned and not spammers promoting the campaign too. Everyone was held responsible for their actions.

[Natalim]

The discussion was only focus on the signature and not on its members.

From the look of things we also did forcus on the members that's why those that had one good report against them as spammers were banned by theymos. If we did only forcus on the campaign then only the signature would had been banned and not spammers promoting the campaign too. Everyone was held responsible for their actions.

I get your point, but maybe my reply was not so comprehensive, in my mind I was thinking about the recent observation that some members can still wear yobit signature. The yobit spam discussion was already solved, some members were already ban, so I don't think of it anymore, it's only sig appearance that bothers me.

[jeffthebaker]

I'm late to the conversation- but I'm pretty disappointed this ban took place. Signatures have always been a topic of controversy and I've always been a strong proponent. I think that the world is shifting to a global, digital economy that crypto will be the backbone of. Micro-jobs like sig campaigns are laying the foundation and connecting individuals in third world and developing countries to legitimate earning incentives. The calm before the storm, if you will.

I'll leave my opinion on Yobit aside, but I don't think it's a sound precedent to outright ban particular campaigns or signatures. It could have been handled on an individual basis, with spammers being banned. I get that it's more hassle that way but last I checked this forum has no shortage of resources. Fingers crossed this doesn't lead to more signature or discussion bans in the future.

[snipie]

I'm late to the conversation- but I'm pretty disappointed this ban took place. Signatures have always been a topic of controversy and I've always been a strong proponent...

Theymos did not ban all the signature campaign and you can still participate on it including yobit but after 2 months from the ban for this one.
It is the fault of yobit, they should hired a manager or at least selected/limited the number of eligible participants.
@safar1980 : lock the topic, it is already solved.

[darklus123]

Theymos did not ban all the signature campaign and you can still participate on it including yobit but after 2 months from the ban for this one.
It is the fault of yobit, they should hired a manager or at least selected/limited the number of eligible participants.
@safar1980 : lock the topic, it is already solved.

The question is will there be some legit campaign manager who will accept their sig campaign? Maybe most of this campaign managers will be hesitant as to whatever may happen to their service.

In the first place have you also wonder why they haven't done it since the beginning? very shaddy isn't it?

[Natalim]

Theymos did not ban all the signature campaign and you can still participate on it including yobit but after 2 months from the ban for this one.
It is the fault of yobit, they should hired a manager or at least selected/limited the number of eligible participants.
@safar1980 : lock the topic, it is already solved.

The question is will there be some legit campaign manager who will accept their sig campaign? Maybe most of this campaign managers will be hesitant as to whatever may happen to their service.

In the first place have you also wonder why they haven't done it since the beginning? very shaddy isn't it?

There's a lot of manager will be willing to accept, remember we also have a lot of managers here who red trust and still running a campaign, so most likely they will be okay. It's only the spamming here that needs to be solve, if the manager can solve it, then yobit will continue its privilege to run a signature campaign in the forum.

I'm sure a if ever they can hire a legit manager, maybe the the maximum will be reduce or it could be on a weekly basis.
Like Hhampuz rules, 55 to 60 a week, that's more than half lower than the max post of yobit with the old rule.

[vit05]

Theymos did not ban all the signature campaign and you can still participate on it including yobit but after 2 months from the ban for this one.
It is the fault of yobit, they should hired a manager or at least selected/limited the number of eligible participants.
@safar1980 : lock the topic, it is already solved.

The question is will there be some legit campaign manager who will accept their sig campaign? Maybe most of this campaign managers will be hesitant as to whatever may happen to their service.

In the first place have you also wonder why they haven't done it since the beginning? very shaddy isn't it?

They did not hire a manager because they could do the control automatically. Since they cared little about what would be written by the users. I still believe that if they were willing to make a serious campaign, several managers would accept the job.But their purpose is different. It is not a job to strengthen their brand. It's an SEO job. Increase the ranking in the searches and appear in all corners of the forum.

[LoyceV]

I'll leave my opinion on Yobit aside, but I don't think it's a sound precedent to outright ban particular campaigns or signatures. It could have been handled on an individual basis, with spammers being banned.

This is exactly what the Signature Campaign Guidelines warn for. It's not the forum's job to look after a signature campaign, they should have hired someone to do this.
Banning their signature is a punishment to YoBit, and sets an example for others. I think this is exactly what this forum needed

The question is will there be some legit campaign manager who will accept their sig campaign? Maybe most of this campaign managers will be hesitant as to whatever may happen to their service.

That's why I suggested Atriz to apply: his reputation is red already, but he is a good campaign manager.

[blurryeyed]

Banning their signature is a punishment to YoBit, and sets an example for others. I think this is exactly what this forum needed

I completely agree, I only wish it was a permanent global ban for anything Yobit until they address the multitude of scam accusations against them by 100's of forum users which they have completely ignored since day one. No legit campaign manager in their right mind would touch Yobit unless they want their reputation ruined - they are toxic scammers that this forum & crypto in general is better off without.

[Natalim]

Timely bump.

I'm just curious, Is yobit signature ban will end today or tomorrow?

Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Just thinking if the ban is over people will again register for the sig camp..

[Lucius]

Just thinking if the ban is over people will again register for the sig camp..

Regardless of when the ban expires, it is not clear if Yobit signature campaign is still ON, and I did not notice that anyone is get e-mail from them like last time. In addition, it makes no sense for YoBit to continue with such campaign, how long it would last this time?

In case the situation is repeated, YoBit could get perma-ban on this forum, and users who promote them more then just two month sig ban.

[hilariousetc]

Has it already started? Saw this guy shitposting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851885     jerald125

Yobit sig. No posts at all since May 05, 2019 then makes 33 shitposts today.

Just thinking if the ban is over people will again register for the sig camp..

Regardless of when the ban expires, it is not clear if Yobit signature campaign is still ON, and I did not notice that anyone is get e-mail from them like last time. In addition, it makes no sense for YoBit to continue with such campaign, how long it would last this time?

In case the situation is repeated, YoBit could get perma-ban on this forum, and users who promote them more then just two month sig ban.

If the spam just starts up again as if nothing happened then their signatures should just be permanently blacklisted as they clearly don't care about the situation here.

[AdolfinWolf]

Has it already started? Saw this guy shitposting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851885     jerald125

Yobit sig. No posts at all since May 05, 2019 then makes 33 shitposts today.

Just thinking if the ban is over people will again register for the sig camp..

Regardless of when the ban expires, it is not clear if Yobit signature campaign is still ON, and I did not notice that anyone is get e-mail from them like last time. In addition, it makes no sense for YoBit to continue with such campaign, how long it would last this time?

In case the situation is repeated, YoBit could get perma-ban on this forum, and users who promote them more then just two month sig ban.

If the spam just starts up again as if nothing happened then their signatures should just be permanently blacklisted as they clearly don't care about the situation here.

Yup, looks like the yobit signature ban is over. Interestingly though, jerald25 and Quickseller are the only two people i've seen posting with a yobit signature yet. Are they actually getting paid?

I'm not so sure, but this seems like it hasn't been updated at all, https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/ so whether yobit actually changed anything/will change anything is also doubtful.

Anyways, it looks like jerald25 is enjoying life and the "generosity" of yobit to the fullest looking at his recent posts. Good gracious, he's unstoppable.

[DaveF]

Yup, looks like the yobit signature ban is over. Interestingly though, jerald25 and Quickseller are the only two people i've seen posting with a yobit signature yet. Are they actually getting paid?

I'm not so sure, but this seems like it hasn't been updated at all, https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/ so whether yobit actually changed anything/will change anything is also doubtful.

So who wants to test to see what happens? 

Seriously, w/o any guidance from above it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

-Dave

[Quickseller]

Yup, looks like the yobit signature ban is over. Interestingly though, jerald25 and Quickseller are the only two people i've seen posting with a yobit signature yet. Are they actually getting paid?

No clue, I saw who I presume to be jerald25 with a yobit signature, and decided to investigate if their campaign is still open, and it turns out it is.

Hopefully this time around, they will do a better job of policing their campaign.

[JaredKaragen]

Yup, looks like the yobit signature ban is over. Interestingly though, jerald25 and Quickseller are the only two people i've seen posting with a yobit signature yet. Are they actually getting paid?

No clue, I saw who I presume to be jerald25 with a yobit signature, and decided to investigate if their campaign is still open, and it turns out it is.

Hopefully this time around, they will do a better job of policing their campaign.

So who wants to test to see what happens?  

Seriously, w/o any guidance from above it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

-Dave

Interesting... im gonna try adding my sig back.... but... might end up leaving the campaign if i can find another that better suits me.....   I did notice on their webpage they lowered pay from .0003 to .0002.   Not surprising.

*edit* ill be a guinea pig.    The yobit.net/en/signature page still shows inactive, but I haven't posted anywhere yet since the sig was added, i'm gonna keep an eye on it.   The other real test will be, will the payment wallet ever be topped up?

[Quickseller]

Yup, looks like the yobit signature ban is over. Interestingly though, jerald25 and Quickseller are the only two people i've seen posting with a yobit signature yet. Are they actually getting paid?

No clue, I saw who I presume to be jerald25 with a yobit signature, and decided to investigate if their campaign is still open, and it turns out it is.

Hopefully this time around, they will do a better job of policing their campaign.

So who wants to test to see what happens?  

Seriously, w/o any guidance from above it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

-Dave

Interesting... im gonna try adding my sig back.... but... might end up leaving the campaign if i can find another that better suits me.....   I did notice on their webpage they lowered pay from .0003 to .0002.   Not surprising.

The price of bitcoin has roughly doubled in that time, so it more than evens out.

If you will make enough posts, it is the highest paying campaign, except for chipmixer. They won’t have the same problem Stake had in that their rates only attracted spammers. They just need to be sure to keep the spammers out.

[JaredKaragen]

The price of bitcoin has roughly doubled in that time, so it more than evens out.

If you will make enough posts, it is the highest paying campaign, except for chipmixer.

This is the only reason I have stuck with their campaign.    I dont even know if theres a thread to re-sign up or if I am still on the list..... it's all guesswork from this point on.... 

But then again, that's how its always been with yobit no?

[bones261]

The price of bitcoin has roughly doubled in that time, so it more than evens out.

If you will make enough posts, it is the highest paying campaign, except for chipmixer. They won’t have the same problem Stake had in that their rates only attracted spammers. They just need to be sure to keep the spammers out.

Good luck keeping your signature going. You read the terms, correct?

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

With 17 negative feedbacks from DT members and a yellow flag, we shall see how many posts you can squeeze in before they boot you. Knowing how Yobit operates, you may last for quite some time.  

[fortunecrypto]

This is surprising that some able to get in again I used to be on their campaign that was over four years ago checking the link to their signature page and asking some of my friends, they have disabled it for inactivity, I'm not even trying to wear that signature because of the so many bad reports, but if they will have an active manager here, mods might allow them to promote.

[UmerIdrees]

Has it already started? Saw this guy shitposting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851885     jerald125

Yobit sig. No posts at all since May 05, 2019 then makes 33 shitposts today.

Just thinking if the ban is over people will again register for the sig camp..

Regardless of when the ban expires, it is not clear if Yobit signature campaign is still ON, and I did not notice that anyone is get e-mail from them like last time. In addition, it makes no sense for YoBit to continue with such campaign, how long it would last this time?

In case the situation is repeated, YoBit could get perma-ban on this forum, and users who promote them more then just two month sig ban.

If the spam just starts up again as if nothing happened then their signatures should just be permanently blacklisted as they clearly don't care about the situation here.

I am seeing few people started wearing the yobit signatures again. Is anyone wearing the Signature is being paid too ?
If so, we might see another flood of spam coming in. Better to stop the flood before it gets out of control.

[mirakal]

I am seeing few people started wearing the yobit signatures again. Is anyone wearing the Signature is being paid too ?
If so, we might see another flood of spam coming in. Better to stop the flood before it gets out of control.

They are only experimenting on it, no one has confirm yet that he is paid wearing the yobit signature.
Hopefully one will confirm about the status whether its still paying or not.

I think yobit if really are interested to advertise again, they are now looking for a manager to manage their campaign.

[fortunecrypto]

I am seeing few people started wearing the yobit signatures again. Is anyone wearing the Signature is being paid too ?
If so, we might see another flood of spam coming in. Better to stop the flood before it gets out of control.

They are only experimenting on it, no one has confirm yet that he is paid wearing the yobit signature.
Hopefully one will confirm about the status whether its still paying or not.

I think yobit if really are interested to advertise again, they are now looking for a manager to manage their campaign.

Are they really looking for one, well I guess this is to manage the campaign effectively we have a lot of good managers here, but they should first resolve all issues, a friend told me that they have disabled all the former participants so not everybody can join if ever Bitcointalk allow people to join this campaign.

[Findingnemo]

I am seeing few people started wearing the yobit signatures again. Is anyone wearing the Signature is being paid too ?
If so, we might see another flood of spam coming in. Better to stop the flood before it gets out of control.

They are only experimenting on it, no one has confirm yet that he is paid wearing the yobit signature.
Hopefully one will confirm about the status whether its still paying or not.

I think yobit if really are interested to advertise again, they are now looking for a manager to manage their campaign.

Are they really looking for one, well I guess this is to manage the campaign effectively we have a lot of good managers here, but they should first resolve all issues, a friend told me that they have disabled all the former participants so not everybody can join if ever Bitcointalk allow people to join this campaign.

They don't care about anything,even many accusations were still unresolved but they still introducing many new ideas and projects.

[rosezionjohn]

I think yobit if really are interested to advertise again, they are now looking for a manager to manage their campaign.

I think they tried to look for a manager before they started their campaign a few months ago. I am guessing no good manager wanted to manage their campaign and be tainted because of yobit exchange shady activities.

[Findingnemo]

I think yobit if really are interested to advertise again, they are now looking for a manager to manage their campaign.

I think they tried to look for a manager before they started their campaign a few months ago. I am guessing no good manager wanted to manage their campaign and be tainted because of yobit exchange shady activities.

You are talking about this Yobit and campaign manager discussion by yahoo62278,right?

I guess they just asked but looks like never tried to hire any and like you said manager also not interested to promote them.

[UmerIdrees]

I am seeing few people started wearing the yobit signatures again. Is anyone wearing the Signature is being paid too ?
If so, we might see another flood of spam coming in. Better to stop the flood before it gets out of control.

They are only experimenting on it, no one has confirm yet that he is paid wearing the yobit signature.
Hopefully one will confirm about the status whether its still paying or not.

I think yobit if really are interested to advertise again, they are now looking for a manager to manage their campaign.

Are they really looking for one, well I guess this is to manage the campaign effectively we have a lot of good managers here, but they should first resolve all issues, a friend told me that they have disabled all the former participants so not everybody can join if ever Bitcointalk allow people to join this campaign.

If they manage to hire a reputed manager from here and then start their campaign it will be much better and appreciated by the community.  There is be no issue in giving good payments to manager as yobit has a lot of money.  Since the campaign should be managed by a manager, so it does not not matter if any good member uuid is inactive/disabled at the yobit site.

[blurryeyed]

If they manage to hire a reputed manager from here and then start their campaign it will be much better and appreciated by the community.

No it won't. The community are better off without Yoshit completely - it's a known & proven scam.

[morvillz7z]

This fella right here has figured out how to beat the system, an unconventional way to generate 20 posts per day i'd say.

Hopefully, he gets paid in Bitkoyns for that crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=921760;sa=showPosts

[PrimeNumber7]

This fella right here has figured out how to beat the system, an unconventional way to generate 20 posts per day i'd say.

Hopefully, he gets paid in Bitkoyns for that crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=921760;sa=showPosts

I checked several of his posts, and he does not appear in any of the bounty spreadsheets in any of the threads that I checked. Some of the threads do not even have a telegram promotion campaign, but this is the only way he is claiming to participate. He even posted in one thread that is not asking for proof of participation posts.

[suchmoon]

WTF is wrong with you people. There is no sign that the campaign will be managed better (or at all) this time and I don't think anybody can feign ignorance after the well-publicized fiasco. Why are you putting those signatures on?

[JaredKaragen]

WTF is wrong with you people. There is no sign that the campaign will be managed better (or at all) this time and I don't think anybody can feign ignorance after the well-publicized fiasco. Why are you putting those signatures on?

For me it was a test for a few days.


The UUID field on their page is still disabled; and no responses from support as I imagined it would happen;   I just wanted to see if I could get free BTC from them again;  but it appears not.

No big loss to me.

[Veleor]

-SNIP-

-SNIP-

With 17 negative feedbacks from DT members and a yellow flag, we shall see how many posts you can squeeze in before they boot you. Knowing how Yobit operates, you may last for quite some time. 

It is curious that Quickseller supports the warning flag against YoBit exchange but wears it's signature at the same time.

48 Active. Joel_Jantsen flagged YoBit (type 1, see why). Supported by suchmoon, LFC_Bitcoin, ETFbitcoin, yogg, Avirunes, Lafu, subSTRATA, TheUltraElite, Hhampuz, coinlocket$, morvillz7z, 1miau, Timelord2067, Quickseller, mocacinno, CjMapope, Joel_Jantsen, sasa9, dragonvslinux. Opposed by nobody.

[Quickseller]

-SNIP-

-SNIP-

With 17 negative feedbacks from DT members and a yellow flag, we shall see how many posts you can squeeze in before they boot you. Knowing how Yobit operates, you may last for quite some time. 

It is curious that Quickseller supports the warning flag against YoBit exchange but wears it's signature at the same time.

48 Active. Joel_Jantsen flagged YoBit (type 1, see why). Supported by suchmoon, LFC_Bitcoin, ETFbitcoin, yogg, Avirunes, Lafu, subSTRATA, TheUltraElite, Hhampuz, coinlocket$, morvillz7z, 1miau, Timelord2067, Quickseller, mocacinno, CjMapope, Joel_Jantsen, sasa9, dragonvslinux. Opposed by nobody.

Thank you for pointing this out to me.

I have re-reviewed the reference thread and relevant threads, and other information, and after consideration, have decided to remove the signature.

[Saisher]

I am reading this thread since I got out of my last signature and have done an experiment I hope I will not get the ire of anyone here this is just an experiment and I think there is an error in their signature I am a full member yet they accepted my UID I done 5 post surprisingly they credited me with hero rank rate but you cannot transfer your signature earnings to your btc balance so for now the signature page is not active


note will remove this code as I'm still looking for a good one

[heavycar]

Nope, the campaign is only for Sr. Member and Hero/Legendary.  Thats why you cant transfer anything over.  Before the spam was really bad but I never had an issue using Yobit myself although I've only traded small amounts.

[JaredKaragen]

I am reading this thread since I got out of my last signature and have done an experiment I hope I will not get the ire of anyone here this is just an experiment and I think there is an error in their signature I am a full member yet they accepted my UID I done 5 post surprisingly they credited me with hero rank rate but you cannot transfer your signature earnings to your btc balance so for now the signature page is not active


note will remove this code as I'm still looking for a good one

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

[LoyceV]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

[roosbit]

-snip-

Hopefully this time around, they will do a better job of policing their campaign.

A while back users  in this campaign got spam bans and now campaign is back

Who is going to risk their account and is the yobit campaign whitelisted on the forum ?

[Quickseller]

-snip-

Hopefully this time around, they will do a better job of policing their campaign.

A while back users  in this campaign got spam bans and now campaign is back

Who is going to risk their account and is the yobit campaign whitelisted on the forum ?

The only people who were banned were those who had some of their posts removed in the two week preceding the YoBit signatures being blacklisted.

No signature campaigns are whitelisted, except the Howeycoin campaign. 

[Mulann2]

Lol! Too many hypocritical post am reading here, what a shame!!! So if the campaign is managed by a reputable bm that will make it all better? suddenly the scam accusation on Yobit will go away i thought this is a very dangerous exchange and should not be allowed to even advertise in this forum according the crying babies who made sooo much noise here during the campaign
As long as a reputable BM can manage the bounty, Yobit is free of all Scam Accusation

[Saisher]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

You are very much right sir, some of my friends told me that. I'm surprised, that they allowed me even I'm a full member and I'm getting a hero rate some sort of a bug here  I will stay on for a few more days and update you if they top it up or not.

note this is experimental but I would listen to senior member advice, my observation is the signature campaign is working but it has a bug there are few characters to install and you can even join as a member or junior member here.

[IconFirm]

note this is experimental but I would listen to senior member advice...

Here's my advice:

You are promoting one of the biggest & well known scam exchanges in the cryptoshere for a few satoshi, selling yourself to the devil, encouraging noobs to open an account there so as to get ripped off by the worst bunch of crooks I've ever had the misfortune to come across. They are the shitpit of of the world & you should be ashamed of yourself for promoting them. They are the scum of the earth.

Get rid of it immediately.

[Yobit Support]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

You are very much right sir, some of my friends told me that. I'm surprised, that they allowed me even I'm a full member and I'm getting a hero rate some sort of a bug here  I will stay on for a few more days and update you if they top it up or not.

note this is experimental but I would listen to senior member advice, my observation is the signature campaign is working but it has a bug there are few characters to install and you can even join as a member or junior member here.

You will not be able to send BTC to your balance,  You are trying to abuse our campaign with a bug that was discovered.  It is only open to Sr. members, Hero, and Legendary ranks.  You are welcome to keep the signature but keep in mind that you will not be paid.

[Csmiami]

You will not be able to send BTC to your balance, You are trying to abuse our campaign with a bug that was discovered.  It is only open to Sr. members, Hero, and Legendary ranks.  You are welcome to keep the signature but keep in mind that you will not be paid.

Talk about the devil...

You are trying to abuse our campaign

Because you don't abuse your users with never solved support tickets and stuck withdrawals....

[JaredKaragen]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

I sincerely doubt in on the shitlist...  Nothing in my history has dictated it...  feel free to look for yourselves.  As for  automated;  i'm not sure bout that.  My 1-2 day test showed me it wasn't automated..

I just ended up finding out the sig was banned when i noticed it had been changed one day... no alerts from anywhere/anyone about it prior to it happening as well.... no bans on me,  or anything of the sort;  just an auto-changed signature due to the yobit temp-ban on sigs....

FYI I did no such abuse of the campaign.   The funds to pay participants were topped up less and less often.  went from a month, to two, then 6 months+.....  the lack of answered tickets is quite another thing as well.  I have my own scars from that one.

[Zicadis]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

You are very much right sir, some of my friends told me that. I'm surprised, that they allowed me even I'm a full member and I'm getting a hero rate some sort of a bug here  I will stay on for a few more days and update you if they top it up or not.

note this is experimental but I would listen to senior member advice, my observation is the signature campaign is working but it has a bug there are few characters to install and you can even join as a member or junior member here.

You will not be able to send BTC to your balance,  You are trying to abuse our campaign with a bug that was discovered.  It is only open to Sr. members, Hero, and Legendary ranks.  You are welcome to keep the signature but keep in mind that you will not be paid.

Why don't you just take the time to actually hire a competent campaign manager?

I'm sure if you just spend a couple hundred extra bucks per week, you can achieve much higher quality advertising for your exchange, without everybody getting angry about all the spam.

There's no need to pay for 20 posts per day buddy, go for quality over quantity and you'll find your money is better spent. Plus, think about how it reflects on your platform, you've already been caught for wash trading, don't get screwed for spam advertising too.

[Saisher]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

You are very much right sir, some of my friends told me that. I'm surprised, that they allowed me even I'm a full member and I'm getting a hero rate some sort of a bug here  I will stay on for a few more days and update you if they top it up or not.

note this is experimental but I would listen to senior member advice, my observation is the signature campaign is working but it has a bug there are few characters to install and you can even join as a member or junior member here.

You will not be able to send BTC to your balance,  You are trying to abuse our campaign with a bug that was discovered.  It is only open to Sr. members, Hero, and Legendary ranks.  You are welcome to keep the signature but keep in mind that you will not be paid.

I am not abusing it at all you should thank me because you have found this out like what I said it's experimental and ask my senior to advice me on this I'm ok not making money just curious about this yobit campaign I've taken out the signature code .

[hilariousandco]

Don't believe anything Yobit Support says until they prove they're an employee of Yobit. I suspect that account has no affiliation with them.

[coin-investor]

I've seen some people wearing Yobit code any update on this campaign are they really paying people I am ok if they have a community manager here or a bounty manager who can check all posters and limit the number of posts, it's very tiresome posting unlimited for a few cents jus tlike what happen to the Stake campaign.

[Csmiami]

Ya, the campaign is running and paying.  I tested it out on my legendary account and everything worked.  They are actually paying a decent rate compared to other signature campaigns.

And if you have a legendary account, why are you posting from a Brand new one?

[AdolfinWolf]

A lot of people have hatred towards Yobit and I don't want to risk getting red trusted for promoting Yobit.  Even though most of these people are wearing gambling signatures.

But... you're... wearing... their signature?   Are you posting on some boards that i don't know of? ... Is your account invisible to normal users?

Some people man. What are you trying to achieve here by shilling the yobit signature campaign with a newb account.. Really, whats there to gain?
>>

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

Huh. an actual legendary stating that he didn't get paid.

[fudster]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

It does sound like Theymos is communicating with them. If a user promote Yobit and his signature weren't deleted by theymos, it does mean he is allowed, isn't he? I see some of them. But why got some red tag from users?

[AdolfinWolf]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

It does sound like Theymos is communicating with them. If a user promote Yobit and his signature weren't deleted by theymos, it does mean he is allowed, isn't he? I see some of them. But why got some red tag from users?

You can put anything you want in your signature.. That doesn't mean that theymos has checked to see if the contents it is referring to are legit, or if in the case of a company it is in good standing with theymos.

I don't see anything that makes me believe that theymos has any contact at all with yobit.

The only thing i see is that the yobit signature ban has expired, and that their campaign is nog longer active. Those are the facts.

But why got some red tag from users?

Because some users probably believe that promoting yobit is the same as promoting any other ponzi scheme/scam.

[fudster]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

It does sound like Theymos is communicating with them. If a user promote Yobit and his signature weren't deleted by theymos, it does mean he is allowed, isn't he? I see some of them. But why got some red tag from users?

You can put anything you want in your signature.. That doesn't mean that theymos has checked to see if the contents it is referring to are legit, or if in the case of a company it is in good standing with theymos.

I don't see anything that makes me believe that theymos has any contact at all with yobit.

The only thing i see is that the yobit signature ban has expired, and that their campaign is nog longer active. Those are the facts.

But why got some red tag from users?

Because some users probably believe that promoting yobit is the same as promoting any other ponzi scheme/scam.

How's that being a ponzi?
They are an exchange. They do what exchanges does, if they pump coins I guess they are just vulgar to what they do but at least you knew the shitcoins there are shitcoins.
One issue so far that's very disturbing to them is making a hardtime for withdrawals of altcoins. I do think they are giving a favor to those who wanna withdraw altcoins though, its better to withdraw BTC.

I'm still joining!

[actmyname]

How's that being a ponzi?
They are an exchange. They do what exchanges does, if they pump coins I guess they are just vulgar to what they do but at least you knew the shitcoins there are shitcoins.
One issue so far that's very disturbing to them is making a hardtime for withdrawals of altcoins. I do think they are giving a favor to those who wanna withdraw altcoins though, its better to withdraw BTC.

I'm still joining!

Don't they literally have IEO ponzis and pump/dump emails?

[BitBustah]

Ya I don't really see what they are doing from other exchanges.  Every top exchange on coinmarketcap does wash trading. Hell, even Binance has their own coin which is completely pointless, they could of just operated on trading fees but they wanted that extra money from BNB.  Binance lists a lot of junk projects because they get paid.  https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/binance/  so many junk coins and its the top exchange.

Remember when coinbase only had btc, eth, and ltc.  All these exchanges are accepting everything these days.  Guess they have to make money like everyone else.

[fudster]

How's that being a ponzi?
They are an exchange. They do what exchanges does, if they pump coins I guess they are just vulgar to what they do but at least you knew the shitcoins there are shitcoins.
One issue so far that's very disturbing to them is making a hardtime for withdrawals of altcoins. I do think they are giving a favor to those who wanna withdraw altcoins though, its better to withdraw BTC.

I'm still joining!

Don't they literally have IEO ponzis and pump/dump emails?

Bit of a shocking that a project will do an IEO there.     Definitely needs fixing after all they spend so much for the marketing.

[BitBustah]

 You can say something bad about every single exchange.   And those binance trading competitions encourage pump and dumps.

Since Binance is the #1 exchange by volume:
https://coinjazeera.news/binance-chain-czs-final-scam/

[Csmiami]

Huh, you're getting paid? Seems like you're one of the only ones? (I see Quickseller & JaredKaragen both removed their signatures again..)

Qs did i, but nor for payment involved stuff

It is curious that Quickseller supports the warning flag against YoBit exchange but wears it's signature at the same time.

48 Active. Joel_Jantsen flagged YoBit (type 1, see why). Supported by suchmoon, LFC_Bitcoin, ETFbitcoin, yogg, Avirunes, Lafu, subSTRATA, TheUltraElite, Hhampuz, coinlocket$, morvillz7z, 1miau, Timelord2067, Quickseller, mocacinno, CjMapope, Joel_Jantsen, sasa9, dragonvslinux. Opposed by nobody.

Thank you for pointing this out to me.

I have re-reviewed the reference thread and relevant threads, and other information, and after consideration, have decided to remove the signature.

[AdolfinWolf]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

It does sound like Theymos is communicating with them. If a user promote Yobit and his signature weren't deleted by theymos, it does mean he is allowed, isn't he? I see some of them. But why got some red tag from users?

You can put anything you want in your signature.. That doesn't mean that theymos has checked to see if the contents it is referring to are legit, or if in the case of a company it is in good standing with theymos.

I don't see anything that makes me believe that theymos has any contact at all with yobit.

The only thing i see is that the yobit signature ban has expired, and that their campaign is nog longer active. Those are the facts.

But why got some red tag from users?

Because some users probably believe that promoting yobit is the same as promoting any other ponzi scheme/scam.

How's that being a ponzi?
They are an exchange. They do what exchanges does, if they pump coins I guess they are just vulgar to what they do but at least you knew the shitcoins there are shitcoins.
One issue so far that's very disturbing to them is making a hardtime for withdrawals of altcoins. I do think they are giving a favor to those who wanna withdraw altcoins though, its better to withdraw BTC.

I'm still joining!

You clearly have done no efforts to research what you're promoting, and you know what. that's fair. but this is not what a normal "exchange" does. I don't see Binance running investment plans on projects that do not exist.

Yobit first had an IEO for a nonexisting coin called "Moon". then they opened 4% investment plans for "Moon" in their "Investbox" - see https://yobit.net/en/investbox/

Then they completely dumped the fucking shit out of that coin. It's now trading at 1 satoshi. https://yobit.net/en/trade/MOON/BTC#6M

They did the same with URANIX. Listing -> Investbox where you could get 7% daily -> then they dumped the f* out of the coin. It is now also trading at 1 sat. https://yobit.net/en/trade/URANIX/BTC


This is not just some pump & dump "encouraging behaviour", no imo, it's far worse. They're 100% complicit and facilitating these "investment" plans.
Anyways, i think i've said this a dozen times already.

[Findingnemo]

You can say something bad about every single exchange.   And those binance trading competitions encourage pump and dumps.

Since Binance is the #1 exchange by volume:
https://coinjazeera.news/binance-chain-czs-final-scam/

But don't forget you also will get attention just because of wearing yobit which might get look to you as spammer.But I am not saying anything personally.

[DaveF]

I was on the original campaign...

Put my sig back up for 2 days;  no change on the yobit site, nothing.   fuck em.  They lost me as an advert.

As far as I know, Yobit's campaign is automated. Once you join and delete your signature, they remove you from the campaign.
If your signature was removed by theymos, that means Yobit kicked you out. If this is true, all former Yobit campaign participants can't join again. They played themselves

YoBit obviously knows what happened, so if they wanted to it's a quick database change to let people back in.

They obviously don't care if they let in another batch of people who may or may not suffer some punishment if it gets out of hand again.

-Dave

[JaredKaragen]

You can say something bad about every single exchange.   And those binance trading competitions encourage pump and dumps.

Since Binance is the #1 exchange by volume:
https://coinjazeera.news/binance-chain-czs-final-scam/

But don't forget you also will get attention just because of wearing yobit which might get look to you as spammer.But I am not saying anything personally.

TBH:  ICCL about someone being "upset" that i got paid to wear a yobit slogan....    Even in the two "trust reports" against me;  if you follow the chain of where they originate;  you find me speaking nothing but calm logical truth and fact, and the others being upset and hurt that they made a mistake and can't get compensated... especially in a timely manner...  you also find me being very clear about my stance on yobit;  even as far as to tell people to be careful about depositing funds;  that nobody really knows who is running it;  and that the only thing I ever advocated setting up an account for was to take some of the actually valuable freecoins they gave out now and then.    I got several ETC for free from that page... Just click once every 24 hours....


But in no way have I defended yobit any further then to show my interactions and dealings with making deposits, withdrawls, or investments from what I have had personally over the years...  I would only defend as far as to stay equally objective when trying to verify that yobit is actually scamming people.  99% of the interactions ended with me finding either people: deposited to the wrong wallet type, deposited to an offline wallet without verifying first, deposited ETH smartcontract tokens when yobit did not support them, some sort of spyware/malware/browser extension would steal their coins, their password got hacked, or they fell for a telegram/fake URL/fake support link asking them to deposit multiple times to get a refund/return.

Their investbox is and always has been 100% a trap.   Only the whales make anything substantial if at all from it;  aside from yobit.

[Natalim]

You can say something bad about every single exchange.   And those binance trading competitions encourage pump and dumps.

Since Binance is the #1 exchange by volume:
https://coinjazeera.news/binance-chain-czs-final-scam/

But don't forget you also will get attention just because of wearing yobit which might get look to you as spammer.But I am not saying anything personally.

I don't think it's appropriate to assume that member wearing yobit signature is a spammer, maybe some but you cannot generalize them.
I've see lots of yobit campaigner's in the past that has not ban for wearing yobit, spamming has nothing to do with signature although it fuel sometimes but we cannot blame it to the signature. Yobit signature was ban because it encourages spam due to no one is checking the quality of the post, but if there's a person who would check it now, then I guess we will see less spammer.

Spamming and the reputation of the yobit are different thing to judge, the cause of the ban was only due to the spams.

[InvoKing]

Spamming and the reputation of the yobit are different thing to judge, the cause of the ban was only due to the spams.

And because yobit (or any other sig/comp) isn't doing what it was supposed to do... Removing spammers or hiring a manager to do so... It isn't that hard! and it may even makes the campaign one of the best.
The temp ban was a warning from theymos but I am pretty sure he knows it is ineffective. The next step may be a permaban, but i wonder if this will be the best solution?
BTW @h&co, wasn't you a manager for a while, few years back? I remember yobit was CFNP and many spammers were kicked. What happened to the campaign at that time?

@Loyce : i has an account in yobit (as active as I am here or better ) and participated early in its campaign before leaving, months before it was locked then I was able to join again after they "restarted" it, well badly. So the possibility exists if yobit want to do so. But since they don't have a blacklist then it will be....

[fortunecrypto]

You can say something bad about every single exchange.   And those binance trading competitions encourage pump and dumps.

Since Binance is the #1 exchange by volume:
https://coinjazeera.news/binance-chain-czs-final-scam/

But don't forget you also will get attention just because of wearing yobit which might get look to you as spammer.But I am not saying anything personally.

I don't think it's appropriate to assume that member wearing yobit signature is a spammer, maybe some but you cannot generalize them.
I've see lots of yobit campaigner's in the past that has not ban for wearing yobit, spamming has nothing to do with signature although it fuel sometimes but we cannot blame it to the signature. Yobit signature was ban because it encourages spam due to no one is checking the quality of the post, but if there's a person who would check it now, then I guess we will see less spammer.

Spamming and the reputation of the yobit are different thing to judge, the cause of the ban was only due to the spams.

I totally agree but it is so hard to reach Yobit support you will need 0.05 Bitcoin to pm them or ask support or a small bitcoin in your Yobit wallet to participate in their chat board, they do not have an active telegram channel, their twitter account will not answer, if ever they will hire a bounty manager, they must use a spreadsheet and not their automated page and I recommend managers here not their own, it will make things easier for them.

[cabalism13]

... you will need 0.05 Bitcoin to pm them or ask support or a small bitcoin in your Yobit wallet to participate in their chat board,...

Why would you even need BTC just to ask for their support? Isn't their service free of charge? Some issues are mainly caused by them, so I think it's not right to have some fees when asking for their help?...

Yobit, as of now, is really having a bad reputation, and for that, it really is, obvious on why they can't be reach on a fastest way.

[fortunecrypto]

... you will need 0.05 Bitcoin to pm them or ask support or a small bitcoin in your Yobit wallet to participate in their chat board,...

Why would you even need BTC just to ask for their support? Isn't their service free of charge? Some issues are mainly caused by them, so I think it's not right to have some fees when asking for their help?...

Yobit, as of now, is really having a bad reputation, and for that, it really is, obvious on why they can't be reach on a fastest way.

Obviously, you do not have an account there, go sign up and try using their chat pm and support features, and if your IP has been used before on Yobit chances are the registration is off, you might try using a VPN, Yobit is very much different from all the other exchanges we are familiar, they worked differently.

[electronicash]

... you will need 0.05 Bitcoin to pm them or ask support or a small bitcoin in your Yobit wallet to participate in their chat board,...

Why would you even need BTC just to ask for their support? Isn't their service free of charge? Some issues are mainly caused by them, so I think it's not right to have some fees when asking for their help?...

Yobit, as of now, is really having a bad reputation, and for that, it really is, obvious on why they can't be reach on a fastest way.

Obviously, you do not have an account there, go sign up and try using their chat pm and support features, and if your IP has been used before on Yobit chances are the registration is off, you might try using a VPN, Yobit is very much different from all the other exchanges we are familiar, they worked differently.

there is no fee. you jusy have to have funds in your wallet to have access to the chatbox. i'm familiar with the exchange because i use to be there. i like this exchange back when there weren't yet issues about them.

exchanges does have a copy of blockchain for each coin for it to operate. if the altcoin updates their blockchain, so should the exchanges that lists the altcoin. In the case of yobit they are lazy to update the chain thus the reason you will have to request for cancellation of altcoin withdrawal because it won't go thru if its outdated. this request can be done thru chat.

[rosezionjohn]

I am not sure if this is their official new signature campaign announcement - Yobit Signature Campaign Sr. Member- Legendary (OPEN)

It looks just like the one they launched a few months ago. Best of luck to the accounts of those who will participate.

[cabalism13]

It looks just like the one they launched a few months ago. Best of luck to the accounts of those who will participate.

It really seems the same with the one who caused  numerous spams across the forum, but as I have read the conditions it is somewhat has been updated.though I still don't like their daily maximum quota. Even if they've set
the ranks on who can just participate, I don't think spam will be avoided. I think they should also limit their participants and not just by counting anyone who wears their signature.

Will try this Signature Campaign for only 4 hours until I get some confirmations about the payment. If this is said to be legit then I might try to participate here also. Lets just hope shitty bastards who'll abused this campaign once again gets a perma-ban instantly.


Edit:
Withdrawn from using Signature. Just found an issue that the campaign is still offline, therefore payments aren'yt yet guaranteed.

[fudster]

It looks just like the one they launched a few months ago. Best of luck to the accounts of those who will participate.

It really seems the same with the one who caused  numerous spams across the forum, but as I have read the conditions it is somewhat has been updated.though I still don't like their daily maximum quota. Even if they've set
the ranks on who can just participate, I don't think spam will be avoided. I think they should also limit their participants and not just by counting anyone who wears their signature.

Will try this Signature Campaign for only 4 hours until I get some confirmations about the payment. If this is said to be legit then I might try to participate here also. Lets just hope shitty bastards who'll abused this campaign once again gets a perma-ban instantly.


Edit:
Withdrawn from using Signature. Just found an issue that the campaign is still offline, therefore payments aren'yt yet guaranteed.

The hero members were confirming though. I'm about to join the campaign. I'm not going to spam at all of course I will participate to have a fruitful fud in the forum

Condition state that - Personal stats updated every 3-4 hours. Do we receive the coins after 4 hours? Let us know.

[JaredKaragen]

It looks just like the one they launched a few months ago. Best of luck to the accounts of those who will participate.

It really seems the same with the one who caused  numerous spams across the forum, but as I have read the conditions it is somewhat has been updated.though I still don't like their daily maximum quota. Even if they've set
the ranks on who can just participate, I don't think spam will be avoided. I think they should also limit their participants and not just by counting anyone who wears their signature.

Will try this Signature Campaign for only 4 hours until I get some confirmations about the payment. If this is said to be legit then I might try to participate here also. Lets just hope shitty bastards who'll abused this campaign once again gets a perma-ban instantly.


Edit:
Withdrawn from using Signature. Just found an issue that the campaign is still offline, therefore payments aren'yt yet guaranteed.

The hero members were confirming though. I'm about to join the campaign. I'm not going to spam at all of course I will participate to have a fruitful fud in the forum

Condition state that - Personal stats updated every 3-4 hours. Do we receive the coins after 4 hours? Let us know.

usually it was see it in your owed balance; the click the send to wallet button and prey that it refreshed the page showing your balance transferred.

any campaign that requires a weekly minimum and has no maximum post count;  shouldn't exist.  It muddies the waters spam-wise.

[Natalim]

usually it was see it in your owed balance; the click the send to wallet button and prey that it refreshed the page showing your balance transferred.

I guess we need some confirmation from BitBustah if wallet button is already working.
He confirmed it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133809.msg51613266#msg51613266 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159189.msg51625166#msg51625166 in his statement.

any campaign that requires a weekly minimum and has no maximum post count;  shouldn't exist.  It muddies the waters spam-wise.

Yobit has a little minimum but has a big maximum but no manager is monitoring the post quality.

[UmerIdrees]

It looks just like the one they launched a few months ago. Best of luck to the accounts of those who will participate.

It really seems the same with the one who caused  numerous spams across the forum, but as I have read the conditions it is somewhat has been updated.though I still don't like their daily maximum quota. Even if they've set
the ranks on who can just participate, I don't think spam will be avoided. I think they should also limit their participants and not just by counting anyone who wears their signature.

Will try this Signature Campaign for only 4 hours until I get some confirmations about the payment. If this is said to be legit then I might try to participate here also. Lets just hope shitty bastards who'll abused this campaign once again gets a perma-ban instantly.


Edit:
Withdrawn from using Signature. Just found an issue that the campaign is still offline, therefore payments aren'yt yet guaranteed.

The hero members were confirming though. I'm about to join the campaign. I'm not going to spam at all of course I will participate to have a fruitful fud in the forum

Condition state that - Personal stats updated every 3-4 hours. Do we receive the coins after 4 hours? Let us know.

Even if you do not spam, there is a general perception that people wearing the yobit signatures are spammers. (Although this is not right).
Its because Yobit has themselves build a bad name on this community as there always start their campaign without taking into account the forums rules.

[acroman08]

Since Yobit's ban have been lifted and now have a participants I think a one of Yobit's participants or someone should make a thread exclusively for reporting yobit participants who are spamming to prevent the previous incident involving their campaign. by posting the profile link and the post the spammer in that thread and users in bitcointalk who visit the thread can easily report the user for spamming and I think this could help reduce the spam yobit participants might/will/did make.

[Findingnemo]

Since Yobit's ban have been lifted and now have a participants I think a one of Yobit's participants or someone should make a thread exclusively for reporting yobit participants who are spamming to prevent the previous incident involving their campaign. by posting the profile link and the post the spammer in that thread and users in bitcointalk who visit the thread can easily report the user for spamming and I think this could help reduce the spam yobit participants might/will/did make.

That someone meant to be manager and possible for someone willing to do it for free is less.

If yobit want they can hire someone to manage it properly without spam but they did't.

[LTU_btc]

Since Yobit's ban have been lifted and now have a participants I think a one of Yobit's participants or someone should make a thread exclusively for reporting yobit participants who are spamming to prevent the previous incident involving their campaign. by posting the profile link and the post the spammer in that thread and users in bitcointalk who visit the thread can easily report the user for spamming and I think this could help reduce the spam yobit participants might/will/did make.

Without manager such thread wouldn't work. Even if we report spammers, we would still need someone who will kick them out of campaign.
Anyway, I think that situation with Yobit now isn't that bad as it was 2 months ago. Mainly because that users who been in campaign before ban can't re-join it.

[tranthidung]

It is likley that Yobit campaign has been back, but I am not sure the new one is legally or not.
Thanks hilariousandco for correcting me.

There is a post from Yobit team (I guess) in previous campaign:

Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.

The newest campaign:

We do not require an avatar for our campaign.  Legendary Member rate:  0.00020 BTC

Make a Yobit account and apply here:  https://yobit.net/en/signature

☆★ YoBit.Net Campaign Conditions ★☆★

★ 20 posts Max per day
★ Personal stats updated every 3-4 hours: https://yobit.net/en/signature/
★ Instantly payments to YoBit balance
★ Personal Message must be set to ★YoBit.Net★ 1400+ Coins Exchange

1. Go to your Bitcointalk profile and add the appropriate signature!
2. Get your UID by clicking your profile name in a post in any thread where you will be led to bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=xxxxxx. xxxxxx is your UID.
3. Enter your UID here: https://yobit.net/en/signature/

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

You will not be able to send BTC to your balance,  You are trying to abuse our campaign with a bug that was discovered.  It is only open to Sr. members, Hero, and Legendary ranks.  You are welcome to keep the signature but keep in mind that you will not be paid.

The signature campaign balance will be topped off soon so please be patient.  

We do not require an avatar for our campaign.  Legendary Member rate:  0.00020 BTC

The payment rate looks good, but Yobit team should run it very different from the last one. I don't think people want to join the campaign by taking risks of their account bans. You are likely Yobit team member, so which kind of plans to prevent bans for your supporters?
In my opinion, at least you should have a public spreadsheet of your participants. Then every one can check that Yobit stimulates spamming in the forum or not.
What happened with previous wave of Yobit campaign, and recent weeks with Stake.com's campaign are very precious lessons. Therefore, the Yobit team should think of it, for Yobit site, as well as for Yobit's supporters.
Furthermore, the Yobit account should claim that you come from Yobit team.

Until Yobit Support proves otherwise you should assume that that account has officially nothing to do with Yobit. Anyone can create an account like that and I suspect it's just a troll account.

If Yobit campaign can legally run, I will join, but by now I will stay away from it.

[hilariousandco]

Until Yobit Support proves otherwise you should assume that that account has officially nothing to do with Yobit. Anyone can create an account like that and I suspect it's just a troll account.

[zasad@]

SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN
★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post. 20 Posts max per day.
★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post. 20 Posts max per day.
★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post. 20 Posts max per day.

★☆★ YoBit.Net Campaign Conditions ★☆★

★ 20 posts Max per day
★ Personal stats updated every 3-4 hours: https://yobit.net/en/signature/
★ Instantly payments to YoBit balance
★ Personal Message must be set to CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!

Иcтoчник: https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/

I wanted to create a new topic, but it's good that I found this topic.
YoBit launched a new signature campain
If each user will fulfill the maximum plan for writing posts, then the forum will again have a huge amount of spam.

[JaredKaragen]

SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN
★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post. 20 Posts max per day.
★ Hero Member: 0.00016 BTC per constructive post. 20 Posts max per day.
★ Legendary Member: 0.00020 BTC per constructive post. 20 Posts max per day.

★☆★ YoBit.Net Campaign Conditions ★☆★

★ 20 posts Max per day
★ Personal stats updated every 3-4 hours: https://yobit.net/en/signature/
★ Instantly payments to YoBit balance
★ Personal Message must be set to CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!

Иcтoчник: https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/

I wanted to create a new topic, but it's good that I found this topic.
YoBit launched a new signature campain
If each user will fulfill the maximum plan for writing posts, then the forum will again have a huge amount of spam.

Read my sig.   Speaks words.

Not worth it to anyone who wants to attempt it.

[Natalim]

Read my sig.   Speaks words.

Not worth it to anyone who wants to attempt it.

So this time its not anymore a joke? the last time I saw was yobit support which is obviously a fake account are always posting information about the launch of yobit campaign. I'm observing now but if I see more yobit uniforms are roaming around in the forum, that means they are back again but I think it's different now because we have active reporters of spam post, so probably if they will spam that max 20 post a day, they could be temp ban.

[crofrihosl]

-snip-
legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

they activated again more idiotic posts soon

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1177257232314093568

[vycl87]

-snip-
legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

they activated again more idiotic posts soon

https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1177257232314093568

And this time, they are not promoting Yobit itself. They are trying to promote new another crypto-related forum in here Bitointalk. It is funny, they are hoping good things from their own biggest competitor.

[LoyceV]

And this time, they are not promoting Yobit itself. They are trying to promote new another crypto-related forum in here Bitointalk. It is funny, they are hoping good things from their own biggest competitor.

Wouldn't it be great if they lure all the spammers there? They should pay more for posting on their own forum than they pay for posting on Bitcointalk.

By all means: take them

[tbct_mt2]

By all means: take them

I took them. Their signature perfectly matches with my avatar. 

[vycl87]

And this time, they are not promoting Yobit itself. They are trying to promote new another crypto-related forum in here Bitointalk. It is funny, they are hoping good things from their own biggest competitor.

Wouldn't it be great if they lure all the spammers there? They should pay more for posting on their own forum than they pay for posting on Bitcointalk.

By all means: take them

It would. But I don't think even spammers will go there. Because here is the most profitable place for them. Write some words and get some sats easily. Why they will pick to leave here? for 1000 sats. I am not sure they are capable of making a payment that amounts of BTC.

[InvoKing]

yahoo62278 can remove any participants :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188047.msg52571948#msg52571948
So I assume it is safe to join and anyone can report the spammers directly to yahoo to check their posts quality.

[actmyname]

Can we get a new list of the current participants? I needed some users to report, so this will be useful for both controlling the campaign and disincentivizing spam from each individual user. Not a lot of people like it when 20+ of their posts are deleted in one fell swoop.

@suchmoon @LoyceV

[coolcoinz]

Can we get a new list of the current participants? I needed some users to report, so this will be useful for both controlling the campaign and disincentivizing spam from each individual user. Not a lot of people like it when 20+ of their posts are deleted in one fell swoop.

@suchmoon @LoyceV

Yobit automatically sends payment for new posts every 3-4 hours, so if you aren't quick enough they will get paid for deleted spam posts anyway.
I think that we should give them a chance, since the campaign is now being managed. It's not as it used to be when they could shitpost freely and get paid for it. If they added a rule that every caught abuser gets their unclaimed rewards zeroed, the quality would increase by a factor of 10

You really can have an automatic campaign run well, like Bitmixer.

[actmyname]

Yobit automatically sends payment for new posts every 3-4 hours, so if you aren't quick enough they will get paid for deleted spam posts anyway.

That's not too big of an issue. I have a script for compiling the report results which I can easily send to yahoo so that he can see the amount of spam that each individual member generates.

I think that we should give them a chance, since the campaign is now being managed. It's not as it used to be when they could shitpost freely and get paid for it. If they added a rule that every caught abuser gets their unclaimed rewards zeroed, the quality would increase by a factor of 10

By 10? I doubt it. You'll most likely have those bland two/three-liners that are vague and padded enough to just barely count as substantial.

[kaltun]

lol, i think Yobit is smart,  they paying also good money for it ...

so , i see a lot of hero/legend members who are participated for this bounty.....

like some said , its almost 30 bucks ( if you do full  )..

i think that this not gonna last long , i would not be suprised if they ( yobit) , close this bounty next week orso ...
but it has effect ,  i see a lot of signatures of yobit

[suchmoon]

Can we get a new list of the current participants?

I hope yahoo can produce a proper one but here is what I scraped so far:

                                    Posts per day                                  
   #  User                    BPIP  before    now  AvgLen   Merit 
   1. Chmel                   BPIP     0.3   21.0     113       7 
   2. Experia                 BPIP     0.0   21.0     258         
   3. Bitkoyns                BPIP     0.0   20.0     264       6 
   4. HarHarHar9965           BPIP     0.0   20.0     741         
   5. joromz1226              BPIP     0.0   20.0     536       7 
   6. lestherat               BPIP     0.0   20.0     951       1 
   7. voltesbit777            BPIP     0.9   20.0     358       1 
   8. zupdawg                 BPIP     0.0   20.0     262       8 
   9. cozytrade               BPIP     0.0   19.0     143         
  10. yoseph                  BPIP     0.1   18.0     342      12 
  11. ardentvolcanoes         BPIP     2.9   16.0     393         
  12. Gyrsur                  BPIP     0.0   16.0     371     166 
  13. jmigdlc99               BPIP     0.0   15.0     544      28 
  14. mmo4me.2016             BPIP     0.0   13.0     221       6 
  15. startsts                BPIP     0.0   13.0     188      12 
  16. judeafante              BPIP     0.3   11.0     333         
  17. leexhin                 BPIP     0.0   11.0     419         
  18. Lucky7btc               BPIP     0.1   11.0     270         
  19. matchi2011              BPIP     2.1   11.0     435       3 
  20. Morguk                  BPIP     0.0   11.0     254         
  21. teosanru                BPIP     0.0   11.0     604       2 
  22. Deborah Christine       BPIP     0.1   10.0     355      34 
  23. gold969                 BPIP     0.1   10.0     349       1 
  24. Malsetid                BPIP     1.4   10.0     381       2 
  25. masulum                 BPIP     4.6   10.0     632     369 
  26. Muzika                  BPIP     0.0   10.0     260      11 
  27. Sanitough               BPIP     0.6   10.0     336      35 
  28. adroitful_one           BPIP     0.0    9.0     403      38 
  29. coin-investor           BPIP     7.7    9.0     346       6 
  30. kaltun                  BPIP     1.0    9.0     393       1 
  31. nara1892                BPIP     0.0    9.0     209       8 
  32. asradoni                BPIP     0.0    8.0     266       6 
  33. Danslip                 BPIP     6.7    8.0     307       9 
  34. iwantapony              BPIP     4.0    8.0     423      28 
  35. ShooterXD               BPIP     0.0    8.0     244       1 
  36. barota                  BPIP     0.3    7.0     186         
  37. elewton                 BPIP     0.0    7.0     415         
  38. FaucetKING              BPIP     1.1    7.0     515         
  39. generous                BPIP     0.0    7.0     140         
  40. indika                  BPIP     0.0    7.0     243         
  41. robelneo                BPIP     4.4    7.0     330       9 
  42. adonay72                BPIP     0.1    6.0     485     138 
  43. alexflow                BPIP     0.0    6.0     121       2 
  44. artur11110000           BPIP     0.0    6.0     125       5 
  45. BaronCoin               BPIP     0.0    6.0     135         
  46. ChrisPop                BPIP     0.0    6.0     492       5 
  47. hashman                 BPIP     0.0    6.0     393       7 
  48. nimogsm                 BPIP     2.0    6.0     160      23 
  49. poptok1                 BPIP     0.7    6.0    1215     116 
  50. Shenzou                 BPIP     0.0    6.0     614      21 
  51. stan86                  BPIP     0.0    6.0     197      11 
  52. trumpman                BPIP     0.0    6.0     450      22 
  53. akhzayn                 BPIP     0.0    5.0     376       4 
  54. darkangel11             BPIP     0.3    5.0     489      57 
  55. DGulari                 BPIP     0.0    5.0     168         
  56. Dread Pirate Roberts    BPIP     0.0    5.0     372      20 
  57. ivakar                  BPIP     0.0    5.0     384       6 
  58. Judge-Dredd             BPIP     0.0    5.0     369         
  59. lunnatic                BPIP     0.4    5.0     177         
  60. ~Money~                 BPIP     0.1    5.0     323      15 
  61. pieppiep                BPIP     6.6    5.0     649         
  62. rez303                  BPIP     0.0    5.0     404         
  63. Yatsan                  BPIP     0.0    5.0     551      40 
  64. asriloni                BPIP     0.0    4.0     401       3 
  65. Digitalbitcoin          BPIP     0.0    4.0     526       1 
  66. FutureBitcoin           BPIP     1.4    4.0     311      14 
  67. hopenotlate             BPIP     0.4    4.0     467      21 
  68. hridoyb                 BPIP     0.1    4.0     629         
  69. JeffBrad12              BPIP     1.3    4.0     440         
  70. jvdp                    BPIP     0.0    4.0     362      23 
  71. marioantonini           BPIP     0.0    4.0     471         
  72. monineklutak            BPIP     0.4    4.0     136         
  73. popcoins                BPIP     0.0    4.0     506         
  74. Strongkored             BPIP     1.9    4.0     424       3 
  75. SummerBliss             BPIP     0.0    4.0     522       1 
  76. tippytoes               BPIP     3.0    4.0     517       7 
  77. Zich                    BPIP     0.0    4.0     115         
  78. 2x25BT                  BPIP     0.4    3.0     105         
  79. apoorvlathey            BPIP     0.1    3.0     480      32 
  80. Babylon                 BPIP     0.0    3.0     358         
  81. bellicose               BPIP     0.0    3.0     210       2 
  82. bileq                   BPIP     0.0    3.0     207       9 
  83. CODE200                 BPIP     0.0    3.0     346         
  84. Lantind                 BPIP     0.1    3.0     366     150 
  85. mmo_online_1981         BPIP     0.0    3.0     174         
  86. rebrik7                 BPIP     0.1    3.0     283       8 
  87. scanderpot              BPIP     0.0    3.0     158         
  88. shimbark123             BPIP     0.0    3.0     281         
  89. skiv2011                BPIP     0.0    3.0     295       1 
  90. vamp8                   BPIP     0.0    3.0      76         
  91. bitcoin31               BPIP     3.7    2.0     617       9 
  92. bloogy                  BPIP     0.0    2.0     206       3 
  93. CarnagexD               BPIP     0.0    2.0     295       1 
  94. DaMut                   BPIP     2.0    2.0    1114       6 
  95. danherbias07            BPIP     1.3    2.0     291       2 
  96. Darooghe                BPIP     0.1    2.0     709       2 
  97. dRAIH                   BPIP     0.0    2.0     156         
  98. GSpgh                   BPIP     0.0    2.0     201         
  99. HartmaniA               BPIP     0.0    2.0     143       4 
 100. InvoKing                BPIP     0.0    2.0     348      64 
 101. johnnywoo2015           BPIP     0.0    2.0     276         
 102. KawaBunGa               BPIP     0.0    2.0     218       1 
 103. kSL                     BPIP     0.0    2.0      81         
 104. scat                    BPIP     0.0    2.0     118         
 105. shinratensei_           BPIP     1.3    2.0     403       4 
 106. Vitamin_52              BPIP     0.0    2.0     143       7 
 107. yazher                  BPIP     8.4    2.0     392     264 
 108. carlfebz2               BPIP     0.0    1.0     133      26 
 109. Cent21                  BPIP     0.6    1.0     716      27 
 110. DeadCoin                BPIP     0.0    1.0     203      10 
 111. DigDeepMining           BPIP     0.0    1.0     983       3 
 112. doomistake              BPIP     0.0    1.0     779      15 
 113. DroomieChikito          BPIP     0.4    1.0     300       7 
 114. Hippocrypto             BPIP     0.1    1.0     274      14 
 115. Kepasa                  BPIP     0.0    1.0     172         
 116. kodtycoon               BPIP     0.0    1.0     236       2 
 117. KosmoKisa               BPIP     0.0    1.0     149         
 118. lucky80                 BPIP     2.0    1.0    1059       5 
 119. medsi2                  BPIP     0.0    1.0     614         
 120. micher143               BPIP     0.0    1.0     194         
 121. nelson4lov              BPIP     0.0    1.0     217         
 122. Sadlife                 BPIP     0.0    1.0     350       6 
 123. sempak                  BPIP     0.0    1.0     270         
 124. skarais                 BPIP     0.0    1.0     563      29 
 125. Sled                    BPIP     0.0    1.0     396      14 
 126. th3nolo                 BPIP     0.0    1.0     333      35 
 127. VenMiner                BPIP     0.0    1.0     295         
 128. X-ray                   BPIP     1.0    1.0     486       2 

[sujonali1819]

snip~~

If they added a rule that every caught abuser gets their unclaimed rewards zeroed, the quality would increase by a factor of 10

Yes, they should create a rule like this so that the participants are somewhat scared and refrain from posting the shit. Since yahoo62278 is managing the campaign, the chance of getting less spamming is high IMO. After that there will be spamming because people will want to get high payments.

[coolcoinz]

That's not too big of an issue. I have a script for compiling the report results which I can easily send to yahoo so that he can see the amount of spam that each individual member generates.

By 10? I doubt it. You'll most likely have those bland two/three-liners that are vague and padded enough to just barely count as substantial.

I'm pretty sure it would help him manage this.

If the threat of losing payment is not enough they could also add some other "incentives" like getting banned from future campaigns managed by yahoo, red trust... At some point they'll see that it's better to earn $10 a day safely than risk losing it all + your account to get a few dollars more.

That said, 20 posts a day is a crazy high number that's like made to cause spam and chaos on the forum. Most people barely do 20 per week.

[actmyname]

Can we get a new list of the current participants?

I hope yahoo can produce a proper one but here is what I scraped so far:

-snip snap-

Beautiful. You know when the first user on that list gets the "report all posts on page" button, that it's going to be a fruitful venture.

[morvillz7z]

<...spam list...>

Number 2 and 3 (and number 8, who also happens to be red trusted) on that list are trying to cheat by only posting proof of authentication replies to rack up their post count.

Number 4 - literally has over 10 plagiarized posts in a row (hopefully he is banned before he gets paid).

Let's see what else we can find...

2. Experia -  proof of authentication cheater (archive)
3. Bitkoyns - proof of authentication cheater (archive)
4. HarHarHar9965  - plagiarizing posts (proof)
8. zupdawg - proof of authentication cheater (archive)
9. cozytrade - proof of authentication cheater (archive)
17. leexhin  - red trusted (Cheating bounty with alt accounts.)
35. ShooterXD - red trusted (Alt of a banned user. Campaign scammer.)
39. generous - red trusted (Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.)
56. Dread Pirate Roberts - red trusted (Did not complete the work requested. Disappeared without a trace with no communication.)
70. jvdp  - red trusted (Cheating Windice sig campaign with alt account monalia)
77. Zich  - red trusted (Hacked/purchased account used to create fake credibility for some dodgy projects.)
83. CODE200 - red trusted (Account dealing)
87. scanderpot - newbie (copper member)
88. shimbark123 - red trusted (Alt account of robbietobby, plagiarist.)
90. vamp8 - member rank (10 merits)
103. kSL - full member   
104. scat - red trusted (Alt of Engg. Chaks. )
120. micher143 - red trusted  (Account sales encourage scamming, spamming, account farming, and shitposting.)         
125. Sled - red trusted  (Purchased or hacked Hero account: Sled u=552262)
127. VenMiner  - red trusted  (Selling merits )

@suchmoon i will pm yahoo when i go through the entire list

[suchmoon]

I see no problem with 20 posts a day. This forum has being dying due to people moving to another social media outlets. More posting here gives this forum more action.

Thanks, but no. Reposting the same vapid garbage on multiple threads is not among the things this forum needs.

It's sad to see NOVA closing. They were a good exchange but just didn't know how to change with the times.

It's sad to see NOVA closing. They were a good exchange but just didn't know how to change with the times.

[LoyceV]

Can we get a new list of the current participants? I needed some users to report, so this will be useful for both controlling the campaign and disincentivizing spam from each individual user. Not a lot of people like it when 20+ of their posts are deleted in one fell swoop.

I don't check signatures, but I do have a list counting all posts per user in the past 24 hours (updated 4 times per day). Many of the users with 20, 19 or 18 posts joined the Yobit campaign.

I'm also prioritizing my list of posts made by each user. It won't be finished today though.

[suchmoon]

<...spam list...>

Number 2 and 3 (and number 8, who also happens to be red trusted) on that list are trying to cheat by only posting proof of authentication replies to rack up their post count.

Number 4 - literally has over 10 plagiarized posts in a row (hopefully he is banned before he gets paid).

Let's see what else we can find...

9 - cozytrade - proof of authentication cheater

Please make sure to PM yahoo62278 with these findings. That would be the quickest way to prevent those users from getting paid.

[pandukelana2712]

Just curious, why yobit signature provide the link with https://cryptotalk.org/ and not using yobit.com or yobit.net link?
Maybe someone, especially for yobit sign-participant explain about this.

[actmyname]

Just curious, why yobit signature provide the link with https://cryptotalk.org/ and not using yobit.com or yobit.net link?
Maybe someone, especially for yobit sign-participant explain about this.

They're trying to get people to join their crappy forum, probably so they can have an easier time shilling.

[sujonali1819]

Just curious, why yobit signature provide the link with https://cryptotalk.org/ and not using yobit.com or yobit.net link?
Maybe someone, especially for yobit sign-participant explain about this.

  The reason is very simple. They are starting to move in a slightly different and deeper way. Because everyone at BitcoinTalk avoids them for that they are looking for something contrary to BitcoinTalk so that they can advertise their site there.

[Saint-loup]

like some said , its almost 30 bucks ( if you do full  )..

i think that this not gonna last long , i would not be suprised if they ( yobit) , close this bounty next week orso ...
but it has effect ,  i see a lot of signatures of yobit

Who said that?  
I don't understand how Yobit can afford this amount of bounty. Even for one week, it will represent a huge amount while this campaign won't even bring back money since it's for a free service. So I'm a little bit skeptical.

[LoyceV]

I don't understand how Yobit can afford this amount of bounty. Even for one week, it will represent a huge amount while this campaign won't even bring back money since it's for a free service. So I'm a little bit skeptical.

Yobit has $18 million in total volume. I'm not sure what their trading fee is, but even if it's just 0.2%, that's $36,000 per day. Probably double, because maker and taker both pay a fee.

And there are some scam accusations against Yobit.

[kaltun]

like some said , its almost 30 bucks ( if you do full  )..

i think that this not gonna last long , i would not be suprised if they ( yobit) , close this bounty next week orso ...
but it has effect ,  i see a lot of signatures of yobit

Who said that?  
I don't understand how Yobit can afford this amount of bounty. Even for one week, it will represent a huge amount while this campaign won't even bring back money since it's for a free service. So I'm a little bit skeptical.

you can calculate yourself

20 post of 0.00016 ( for me ) = 0.0032 btc  = 28 dollar ( atm ), so yes its nice money ...and if you are a legendary, your earnings will be 0.004 btc


i also dont think this bounty less not long , the list what here is presented , it has 128 participants ( i think its now even more).so if they all in with their 20 post per day .... its a huge money

[Saint-loup]

I don't understand how Yobit can afford this amount of bounty. Even for one week, it will represent a huge amount while this campaign won't even bring back money since it's for a free service. So I'm a little bit skeptical.

Yobit has $18 million in total volume. I'm not sure what their trading fee is, but even if it's just 0.2%, that's $36,000 per day. Probably double, because maker and taker both pay a fee.

And there are some scam accusations against Yobit.

Yes you're right it's 0,2% for the maker and the taker. But I think most of their volume is done by their own bots, moreover fees paid in shitcoins are very theoretical for them since it's certainly very difficult to sell back them without crashing shitcoin markets.

[kaltun]

<...spam list...>

Number 2 and 3 (and number 8, who also happens to be red trusted) on that list are trying to cheat by only posting proof of authentication replies to rack up their post count.

Number 4 - literally has over 10 plagiarized posts in a row (hopefully he is banned before he gets paid).

Let's see what else we can find...

2. Experia -  proof of authentication cheater (archive)
3. Bitkoyns - proof of authentication cheater (archive)
4. HarHarHar9965  - plagiarizing posts (proof)
8. zupdawg - proof of authentication cheater (archive)
9. cozytrade - proof of authentication cheater (archive)
17. leexhin  - red trusted (Cheating bounty with alt accounts.)
35. ShooterXD - red trusted (Alt of a banned user. Campaign scammer.)
39. generous - red trusted (Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.)
56. Dread Pirate Roberts - red trusted (Did not complete the work requested. Disappeared without a trace with no communication.)
70. jvdp  - red trusted (Cheating Windice sig campaign with alt account monalia)
77. Zich  - red trusted (Hacked/purchased account used to create fake credibility for some dodgy projects.)
83. CODE200 - red trusted (Account dealing)
87. scanderpot - newbie (copper member)
88. shimbark123 - red trusted (Alt account of robbietobby, plagiarist.)
90. vamp8 - member rank (10 merits)
103. kSL - full member  
104. scat - red trusted (Alt of Engg. Chaks. )
120. micher143 - red trusted  (Account sales encourage scamming, spamming, account farming, and shitposting.)        
125. Sled - red trusted  (Purchased or hacked Hero account: Sled u=552262)
127. VenMiner  - red trusted  (Selling merits )

@suchmoon i will pm yahoo when i go through the entire list

with do all respect , i would ask some rewards for your action/work from yahoo   , this is time-consuming ... pfff

you re doing good work, this way the cheaters will be not rewarded ...

btw number 127 is red trusted by yahoo himself  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=557538

[tbct_mt2]

I see no problem with 20 posts a day. This forum has being dying due to people moving to another social media outlets. More posting here gives this forum more action.

If what I remembered is correct, months ago, Stake.com run their campaign with high daily or weekly post cap too. Then, lots of people complained about that campaign, but when their team publicly gave spreadsheet and posts made by their participants, total posts made are not much as people complained.

I don't argue that 20 posts per day is overwhelming for lots of users, if campaign requires non-spam posts.
From Stake.com, I have feelings like when people have bad feelings (from past experience) with companies or campaigns, they might have incorrect feelings.

Now, Yobit took voices and community ideas into consideration by hiring yahoo62278 to check post quality. Why do we not halt all complains for at least one week to see how the new campaign managed by yahoo62278 goes?

If in coming days, bad posters banned from the campaign, and only good ones left, I do think it is time to stop complaining that Yobit-backed campaign results in spam posts.

At least theymos has not shown problems with Yobit's bids for forum ads:
Round 284: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170052.msg52098153#msg52098153
Round 285: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173717.msg52206520#msg52206520

Only this topic locked (that I agreed with): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187840.0
For the rest ones: discussions have likely kept going, and it seems perfect ones to write long posts and get post counts.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187843.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133809.0

I saw this campaign around 18 hours ago, but only joined two hours ago after it was taken by yahoo62278. I think the campaign will run well (only if theymos does not have issues with this one - promote other forums inside the forum).

I suggest to lock all those topics, and bring all discussion about Yobit campaign there:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188047.0

[LoyceV]

At least theymos has not shown problems with Yobit's bids for forum ads:
Round 284: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170052.msg52098153#msg52098153
Round 285: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173717.msg52206520#msg52206520

They can bid, but they didn't get a slot. Theymos wrote this:

The trust feedback against you is too negative overall, so I won't accept your bids at this time.

[JaredKaragen]

fake volume?   Yes.  I have seen it (see my sig).

Ironically, they have always paid me in the past, but no sense on testing those waters again.   Im staying away while im far ahead of them.


Before there were minimum post amounts, now there is a maximum; which is good... but no good comes from yobit anymore.

[hilariousetc]

So it has begun.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926537     mmo4me.2016 December 03, 2016

Two line shitposter with no posts since May 30, 2019 until yesterday.

Saw he merited this user (also on the new campaign):

Merited by mmo_online_1981 (5)

Dear all
How to i can creat my SmartNodes direct from my wallet run Window
I try many times but  can not run!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926808 mmo_online_1981     December 04, 2016

Also no posts since April 22, 2019 until yesterday. Another two line shitposter and registered a day after him. Obvious alts.

That user merited this account that was registered a within a month of the other two but is permabanned:

Merited by mmo4me.2016 (5)

Hello,

I want to inform you that are still 5 days until the season 2 airdrop of Refereum project.
I accidentally joined it , didn`t think they are so serious but in time i found out that they are very serious and they have a huge succes and progress.
It`s related to gaming community and twitch also and their telegram group has reached 100k.
I also received 1000 RFR on the first airdrop season , and now they just launched RFR on a big exchange.

So if you wouldl like join the telegram group in order to maintain it as the biggest on !

Telegram

You need to check rules of airdrop program! More info in official web site of token!

So possible ban evasion there if anyone wants to try find a concrete link between them.

[ryzaadit]

-snip-

Here you go

Both of them posting the same public key at Pascal Coin

Dear all
Can any one share me an account to receive coin, I am just a user
Thanks
My Public key:
3GhhbokJZXG3XxpLANiQAu69JEiRs1wcC1hsqu9c8fuJBeN4MbzYxbaDBBdpEwckrkqkobzZuYVqido iND9KL2KU2tzQkZuKFXwCt8

Archive : http://archive.is/LWUOP

I want a PASC address to store coin, But I'm not a miner! Can you help me, thanks
My key:
3GhhbokJZXG3XxpLANiQAu69JEiRs1wcC1hsqu9c8fuJBeN4MbzYxbaDBBdpEwckrkqkobzZuYVqido iND9KL2KU2tzQkZuKFXwCt8

Archive : http://archive.fo/FodGj

Find more :

#Authentication Post
Type of campaign: Signature
Bitcointalk Username: mmo_online_1981
Rank: Sr. Member
Post Count: 784
ERC20 wallet address: 0x166e9E207b79872280A33B6D4bd1B1b591602006

Ethereum adress: 0x166e9e207b79872280a33b6d4bd1b1b591602006
Twitter username : @mmo4me_2016a
Telegram username: @mmo4me_2016a
Thanks

This three account have some connection, cheating a bounty/airdrop campaign, sending merits between his own alt account.

[abel1337]

At least theymos has not shown problems with Yobit's bids for forum ads:
Round 284: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170052.msg52098153#msg52098153
Round 285: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173717.msg52206520#msg52206520

They can bid, but they didn't get a slot. Theymos wrote this:

The trust feedback against you is too negative overall, so I won't accept your bids at this time.

theymos quoted

The trust feedback against you is too negative overall, so I won't accept your bids at this time.

Does it means that theymos wont accept any of their bids because they have too much negative feedback? or maybe theymos is giving them another chance to reclaim the accusation they have met and be trusted again.
Its just theymos is so kind to give a chance like this to yobit.

I wonder if yobit can reclaim the trust again of the users after these many scam allegations 

[kaltun]

fake volume?   Yes.  I have seen it (see my sig).

Ironically, they have always paid me in the past, but no sense on testing those waters again.   Im staying away while im far ahead of them.


Before there were minimum post amounts, now there is a maximum; which is good... but no good comes from yobit anymore.

why do you think that ?? , what good do / did you expect from yobit ?? its an exchange ... so if you gain / earn, this would mean someone lose... if you are one of the who lose dont blame the exchange for it ( btw i am not saying your lost orso ...)

[Saint-loup]

What is the best way to report a spammer/cheater?

This account(Orrechorre) is red tagged for "sold/hacked account", and is an "user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity." according to his profile.

He's shitposting without even reading the posts he's replying to.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=124209

[asche]

What is the best way to report a spammer/cheater?

As mentionned before you should contact the BM, yahoo about this.

Reporting his posts is also a good idea overall.

[sujonali1819]

Since the launch of the Yobit campaign, many Discussions and criticisms on this topic have been running in this forum. Now manager and many others are trying to eliminate spam from this forum. Since highest 20 posts per day limit according to the rules of Yobit campaign. And people have already started spamming to get their highest payment. But what I want to say here is that Yobit should change the rules of the campaign from 20 posts cap to 10 posts/lower than 20 posts is better, rather than looking for spammers all day. Is not it?

[asche]

Yobit should change the rules of the campaign from 20 posts cap to 10 posts/lower than 20 posts is better, rather than looking for spammers all day. Is not it?

Well first case actually allows to detect said spammers.

So in the long run it is more effective.

For the short term you might be right, but who cares about short turn?

Let all these people burn their Hero/Legend/Sr accounts. Once they loose them they will never manage to get enough merit to get another.
I'm happy to see this happen and to nail as many as possible.

[Natalim]

Yobit should change the rules of the campaign from 20 posts cap to 10 posts/lower than 20 posts is better, rather than looking for spammers all day. Is not it?

Well first case actually allows to detect said spammers.

So in the long run it is more effective.

For the short term you might be right, but who cares about short turn?

Let all these people burn their Hero/Legend/Sr accounts. Once they loose them they will never manage to get enough merit to get another.
I'm happy to see this happen and to nail as many as possible.

I completely agree with your logic, let them spam if that's what they do but for sure they will be caught very soon as not only yahoo is checking the participants, there are also a lot of concerned members that are helping by reporting the spammers in the campaign.

When they are out, they will be out forever and cannot come back anymore, unless yahoo will once again renew is SMAS list and will start fresh but that's too kind of him already or if it will happen, it might take a year or years again.

[qwertyup23]

Since the launch of the Yobit campaign, many Discussions and criticisms on this topic have been running in this forum. Now manager and many others are trying to eliminate spam from this forum. Since highest 20 posts per day limit according to the rules of Yobit campaign. And people have already started spamming to get their highest payment. But what I want to say here is that Yobit should change the rules of the campaign from 20 posts cap to 10 posts/lower than 20 posts is better, rather than looking for spammers all day. Is not it?

Like what asche said, the signature campaign can be used as a rat-trap against spammers in the forum.

Yahoo explicitly mentioned that he does not expect everyone to achieve the maximum 20posts/day and he will not hesitate to remove users who have been cheating/spamming their way in the signature. It all boils down if you think it is worth to lose your account in exchange for some bitcoins.

Well in the list, Yahoo regularly updates it with new members being included in the BANNED HAMMER.
List: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188200.0

[Lucius]

In just a few days army of cryptotalks/yobit spammers flooded the entire forum, there is no effective defense against the wrong set of rules. 20 posts per day+unlimited spots and two days ago there is 300+ participants in this signature campaign. I have no doubt that the situation will only get worse, much worse than to open one thread and see how a quality conversation is when one account and his alts abuse signature campaign.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188341.60 (from post 75).

[legendster]

I just said this on another thread :

I think Yobit should be in a much better place if they had a max 2 post per hour limit in addition to reducing the max post count down by a bit.

Since they are scraping post data through their signature panel, they should be able to implement this easily.

This would quite easily curb down the spam and low quality posts. But no one on Yobit seems to care it seems and Yahoo is pretty much powerless here.

Making a few small amendments to the way this campaign is run would make the world of difference. But seeing how they are promoting their own forum, I don't think they care about the health of Bitcointalk at all.

[hilariousetc]

In just a few days army of cryptotalks/yobit spammers flooded the entire forum, there is no effective defense against the wrong set of rules. 20 posts per day+unlimited spots and two days ago there is 300+ participants in this signature campaign. I have no doubt that the situation will only get worse, much worse than to open one thread and see how a quality conversation is when one account and his alts abuse signature campaign.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188341.60 (from post 75).

Well this is something yahoo should be dealing with as that's his job now. As long as he kicks the problem users off and gets on top of things then there should be no issues. If he doesn't then that's a different matter. There's a few from that thread you linked that are suspicious though:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809633 aysg76 gap from April 22, 2019 to September 29, 2019
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=308192 btccoffee April 05, 2019 to September 28, 2019

These two are almost certainly alts posting back to back:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=770367 Ailmand February 13, 2016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=775064 Inkdatar February 18, 2016

Probably unrelated but this user has a huge gap in his posts from November 29, 2017 to July 18, 2019:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=143378 Kyraishi

I don't think they care about the health of Bitcointalk at all.

Well they should if they want to promote it here because they had their signatures blacklisted last time they did nothing.

[Oasisman]

In just a few days army of cryptotalks/yobit spammers flooded the entire forum, there is no effective defense against the wrong set of rules. 20 posts per day+unlimited spots and two days ago there is 300+ participants in this signature campaign. I have no doubt that the situation will only get worse, much worse than to open one thread and see how a quality conversation is when one account and his alts abuse signature campaign.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188341.60 (from post 75).

True that, but on the bright side of this campaign, this will expose spammers, alt accounts, shit posters, and other form of cheating through signature campaign, including those account who just recently woke up from a long period of inactivity. Yahoo on the other hand is doing all his might as a quality checker with the help of concerned users in the forum to identify these spammers and put them on the list. Thus, it will be easy for Theymos to eradicate these violators.

Though there were also good posters.

[Lucius]

Well this is something yahoo should be dealing with as that's his job now. As long as he kicks the problem users off and gets on top of things then there should be no issues. If he doesn't then that's a different matter.

The problem is that a one person can hardly keep under control a few hundred people, and their numbers are growing steadily. The last statistics suchmoon posted two days ago shows 310 participants, and if we assume that each of them will make at least 10 posts daily, we get 3100 new posts to check every day, mission impossible. How will things look like when this number becomes twice or three times higher?

[Welsh]

Well this is something yahoo should be dealing with as that's his job now. As long as he kicks the problem users off and gets on top of things then there should be no issues. If he doesn't then that's a different matter.

The problem is that a one person can hardly keep under control a few hundred people, and their numbers are growing steadily. The last statistics suchmoon posted two days ago shows 310 participants, and if we assume that each of them will make at least 10 posts daily, we get 3100 new posts to check every day, mission impossible. How will things look like when this number becomes twice or three times higher?

It'll take time, and I imagine it'll be a bumpy first few weeks for Yahoo, but eventually he should narrow it down to the better quality users. That estimate of 3100 new posts a day will dramatically decrease given time, because if we assume that nearly every user will on average post 10 times a day you can bet your buck most of them aren't constructive, and will be kicked sooner or later.

[wwzsocki]

... 3100 new posts to check every day, mission impossible. How will things look like when this number becomes twice or three times higher?

I think this is easy to do when you have help and maybe Yahoo already is or will be working soon with an additional manager or somebody he knows and trusts as a quality checker.

I would do the same and at first, I would try to do it solo, and if that wasn't possible I would just seek help.

Yobit can afford to hire even a few high-quality managers, I assume, when they are running the biggest signature campaign on the forum right now.

[hilariousetc]

Well this is something yahoo should be dealing with as that's his job now. As long as he kicks the problem users off and gets on top of things then there should be no issues. If he doesn't then that's a different matter.

The problem is that a one person can hardly keep under control a few hundred people, and their numbers are growing steadily. The last statistics suchmoon posted two days ago shows 310 participants, and if we assume that each of them will make at least 10 posts daily, we get 3100 new posts to check every day, mission impossible. How will things look like when this number becomes twice or three times higher?

That's something yahoo will have to deal with and if he can't get control of the campaign then it won't look very good for him and there should be repercussions for that, but it shouldn't be too hard to keep checking the new participants and kicking them off if they're blatantly shitposting. He should probably get in contact with yobit to change the way people can sign up and make it so they have to be accepted first or even overhaul the way the campaign runs completely.

[legendster]

Well this is something yahoo should be dealing with as that's his job now. As long as he kicks the problem users off and gets on top of things then there should be no issues. If he doesn't then that's a different matter.

The problem is that a one person can hardly keep under control a few hundred people, and their numbers are growing steadily. The last statistics suchmoon posted two days ago shows 310 participants, and if we assume that each of them will make at least 10 posts daily, we get 3100 new posts to check every day, mission impossible. How will things look like when this number becomes twice or three times higher?

That's something yahoo will have to deal with and if he can't get control of the campaign then it won't look very good for him and there should be repercussions for that, but it shouldn't be too hard to keep checking the new participants and kicking them off if they're blatantly shitposting. He should probably get in contact with yobit to change the way people can sign up and make it so they have to be accepted first or even overhaul the way the campaign runs completely.

Yobit guys are not known for listening to advice, and they have a disdain for this forum (hence the promotion of their own forum).

I can help Yahoo by reporting the shitposters - any mod can look into my reporting history and can verify how much reporting I do on a daily basis these days. All Yahoo has to do is ask and I'd gladly help him (and the forum) by weeding out the shitposts) if not the shitposters.

[Welsh]

I can help Yahoo by reporting the shitposters - any mod can look into my reporting history and can verify how much reporting I do on a daily basis these days. All Yahoo has to do is ask and I'd gladly help him (and the forum) by weeding out the shitposts) if not the shitposters.

He has already asked for the communities help by reporting to him any users who are spamming the forum. Again, it will likely take a few weeks to get it all under control, and remove most of the trouble makers. Allowing Yahoo a grace period to sort out the campaign makes sense. However, Yahoo has tied his name to this campaign now, and if the spammers haven't been weeded out in a month or so then I imagine it will reflect badly on Yahoo. Having said that Yobit has made the first steps to cleaning up their name in hiring a reputable campaign manager, and user of the forum. I guess we will have to wait, and see how this unfolds.

[tranthidung]

The problem is that a one person can hardly keep under control a few hundred people, and their numbers are growing steadily. The last statistics suchmoon posted two days ago shows 310 participants, and if we assume that each of them will make at least 10 posts daily, we get 3100 new posts to check every day, mission impossible. How will things look like when this number becomes twice or three times higher?

There are huge workload in early days, but workload will decrease over time.

In fact, the manager must not check all 10 posts of shitposters to ban them from the campaign. Shitposters and their shitposts are very easily to recognize. Just a quick scan on their post history, last 20 posts, and manager will know whether they are shitposters.

Hence the assumption that manager has to check all of 3100 posts (310 participants x 10 posts per day / participant) is wrong.

In addition, after a several days, shitposters will be banned from original list of 310 participants, so workload will decrease considerable over days.
More than that, there are less and less shitposters enroll and join the campaign over days when they see what happens with early shitposters.

Yobit can afford to hire even a few high-quality managers, I assume, when they are running the biggest signature campaign on the forum right now.

They will have bigger effects from their campaign and more positive feedback from community if they do something (besides what they already have now) :
- Narrow down total number of participants: No one will complain if they only hire limited high quality posters, who fail to enroll in ChipMixer
- Increase payment rate: No one will complain if they have payment rates as same as ChipMixer or just a little lower.
- Reduce total posts per day/ week: 50 or 60 in total, weekly. I don't think our community will complain about it.

[Daniel91]

I can help Yahoo by reporting the shitposters - any mod can look into my reporting history and can verify how much reporting I do on a daily basis these days. All Yahoo has to do is ask and I'd gladly help him (and the forum) by weeding out the shitposts) if not the shitposters.

He has already asked for the communities help by reporting to him any users who are spamming the forum. Again, it will likely take a few weeks to get it all under control, and remove most of the trouble makers. Allowing Yahoo a grace period to sort out the campaign makes sense. However, Yahoo has tied his name to this campaign now, and if the spammers haven't been weeded out in a month or so then I imagine it will reflect badly on Yahoo. Having said that Yobit has made the first steps to cleaning up their name in hiring a reputable campaign manager, and user of the forum. I guess we will have to wait, and see how this unfolds.

Yahoo has a really good reputation on this forum and runs many successful signature campaigns.
We all know he's very strict and doesn't like spamming.
Yobit, on the other hand, is highly compromised as a campaign here in the forum due to a lot of spamming issues.
If I were Yahoo, I would never accept position of campaign manager in Yobit and risk my hard-earned reputation.
Any way, it's his decision and I hope he will be successful in detecting and removing spammers.
He is probably last chance for Yobit on this forum.

[coolcoinz]

A number of people here said that this campaign is good because it exposes spammers, but what is the benefit in this when the spammers only get kicked out of the campaign. I've been observing a couple of those serial campaign abusers, like the happy bunch from my old thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068434.msg47859323#msg47859323) and guess what, they lied low for a while and some that did not get red trusted or banned resurfaced in yobit campaign.
This is their normal tactic to stop posting for a few weeks or even months and join another campaign where the manager is less strict or doesn't remember them anymore.

[Welsh]

Yahoo has a really good reputation on this forum and runs many successful signature campaigns.
We all know he's very strict and doesn't like spamming.
Yobit, on the other hand, is highly compromised as a campaign here in the forum due to a lot of spamming issues.
If I were Yahoo, I would never accept position of campaign manager in Yobit and risk my hard-earned reputation.
Any way, it's his decision and I hope he will be successful in detecting and removing spammers.
He is probably last chance for Yobit on this forum.

I also wouldn't have represented them as a campaign manager especially because Yahoo isn't handling transactions/payments. However, Yahoo has accepted the job, and Yobit has definitely made some enemies of the forum by their antics. However, like I said they have at least made the step in the right direction by hiring a reputable campaign manager.

[legendster]

I can help Yahoo by reporting the shitposters - any mod can look into my reporting history and can verify how much reporting I do on a daily basis these days. All Yahoo has to do is ask and I'd gladly help him (and the forum) by weeding out the shitposts) if not the shitposters.

He has already asked for the communities help by reporting to him any users who are spamming the forum. Again, it will likely take a few weeks to get it all under control, and remove most of the trouble makers. Allowing Yahoo a grace period to sort out the campaign makes sense. However, Yahoo has tied his name to this campaign now, and if the spammers haven't been weeded out in a month or so then I imagine it will reflect badly on Yahoo. Having said that Yobit has made the first steps to cleaning up their name in hiring a reputable campaign manager, and user of the forum. I guess we will have to wait, and see how this unfolds.

That is if the campaign lasts a month or so. I'd much rather see them stretch this out over long period of time like a Chipmixer or 777 campaign instead of burning out their reward reserves like this. The fact that anyone can join without any quality filter is kind of annoying.

And I know, if they actually had that kind of filter Yahoo would not accept me into such a campaign (because reasons) but I would still like to see such a step to be implemented.