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April 21, 2019, 03:59:30 AM
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$30 or $60 an hour is actually pretty good in first world countries. In third world countries, this is enough for a days expenses.

I’ve already started to see posts that clearly don’t know what they are talking about and/or clearly haven’t read much more than the thread title.

It's pretty good - but the rate at which you need to be posting to reach this.. You'll go mad in a couple days..

@actmyname did you have these posts "pre-prepared" / ready? (1 post a minute is insanity..)
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April 21, 2019, 04:09:15 AM
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They started to spam the [LEARN] BBCode Lessons & Tutorials [+tutorial videos!] thread.  By now, we can see Yobit everywhere in the forum, what we have not seen is its campaign's manager. Wink
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1727100.180
They are now starting making the flood of posts in the entire forum, they are thinking more posts made more profit to generate. Cheesy
Hopefully, they should know this rule.

How long do I need to wait between forum posts?
Waiting time between forum posts is calculated with the following formula:
Code:
waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

60 posts in just 1 hour are impossible.




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April 21, 2019, 04:18:19 AM
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They started to spam the [LEARN] BBCode Lessons & Tutorials [+tutorial videos!] thread.  By now, we can see Yobit everywhere in the forum, what we have not seen is its campaign's manager. Wink
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1727100.180
They are now starting making the flood of posts in the entire forum, they are thinking more posts made more profit to generate. Cheesy

Not to mention: those could be alts replying to each other.. One of them has such bullshit green trust (sending steem codes first makes your trustworthy? Acting for an escrow of what could be your own business makes youm trustworthy? double "very honest man" trust?). Let's keep reporting. Mods are going to have a huge backlog of reports in the coming days/weeks..
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April 21, 2019, 05:06:07 AM
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$30 or $60 an hour is actually pretty good in first world countries. In third world countries, this is enough for a days expenses.

I’ve already started to see posts that clearly don’t know what they are talking about and/or clearly haven’t read much more than the thread title.

It's pretty good - but the rate at which you need to be posting to reach this.. You'll go mad in a couple days..

@actmyname did you have these posts "pre-prepared" / ready? (1 post a minute is insanity..)
Out of curiosity, how many accounts are you posting from with their signature?

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April 21, 2019, 05:22:24 AM
Last edit: April 21, 2019, 12:43:13 PM by ChiBitCTy
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You are crazy!

I kept using large words that would slow down my progress.


I don’t believe it lol. Nice work here. Man I suck at forum code.
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April 21, 2019, 05:26:48 AM
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Holy fucking shit. I don't ever want to do that again. What an absolute nightmare, I tell you.

This is really crazy, you did a great try also as I see most of the post were atleast upto the mark to be paid from a campaign perspective. I am getting what you feel after this big mind trigger by posting this ammout of posts in an hour. I am guessing it feels the same to the spammers who are operating multiple accounts to post daily or shitpost daily.



Yeah, 100 posts was way too ambitious. But this data will be great for analysis!

Yaa, 100 was pretty much an higher goal, but one post per minute is not easy task too. Your efforts would surely help in shitposting analysis. Wink

Good Job and Nice Try !
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April 21, 2019, 06:16:26 AM
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It's pretty good - but the rate at which you need to be posting to reach this.. You'll go mad in a couple days..

@actmyname did you have these posts "pre-prepared" / ready? (1 post a minute is insanity..)
I actually took my time on certain posts. The hour went by quicker than I thought: the experiential time felt like 20 minutes.
How long do I need to wait between forum posts?
Waiting time between forum posts is calculated with the following formula:
Code:
waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

60 posts in just 1 hour are impossible.
The waittime caps at 4 seconds. That would mean a maximum of 900 posts/hr, if we're neglecting connection times.
The strategy that I picked:

1) Open Economics, Speculation, Gambling discussion and Bitcoin Discussion.

2) Open all of the last-post links in a new tab.

3) Write on easy threads. Respond if it helps in the ease of the post. Otherwise make some random generic shit up.

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April 21, 2019, 06:52:53 AM
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It's pretty good - but the rate at which you need to be posting to reach this.. You'll go mad in a couple days..

@actmyname did you have these posts "pre-prepared" / ready? (1 post a minute is insanity..)
I actually took my time on certain posts. The hour went by quicker than I thought: the experiential time felt like 20 minutes.
How long do I need to wait between forum posts?
Waiting time between forum posts is calculated with the following formula:
Code:
waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

60 posts in just 1 hour are impossible.
The waittime caps at 4 seconds. That would mean a maximum of 900 posts/hr, if we're neglecting connection times.
The strategy that I picked:

1) Open Economics, Speculation, Gambling discussion and Bitcoin Discussion.

2) Open all of the last-post links in a new tab.

3) Write on easy threads. Respond if it helps in the ease of the post. Otherwise make some random generic shit up.

Look like lot of account are going to wake up and maybe we  see some movement in account selling market too.
Might be few are interested now to pay their long overdue loans to get their account back or trust removed.

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April 21, 2019, 08:28:41 AM
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Respond if it helps in the ease of the post.
This was probably your rate limiting factor - reading the last post or two and responding directly to them. As we know, spammers don't continue the flow of the conversation, and rarely even read the last few posts. Hell, some don't even read the OP. They just see the title and throw together any generic nonsense.

I reckon you could probably reach 100/hour if you just picked a random keyboard out of the thread's title (like "China", "volume", "Satoshi", "adoption", etc.) and made any sentence containing that word. As a small experiment, I typed the following off the top of my head, and it took me 75 seconds:

Quote
I think China will be the future of crypto because they have so much of the miners and they can control the future of the blockchain.
Volume is increasing which I think is good for adoption because it means more people are starting to use bitcoin which we all know is the future so just hold.
Satoshi is an unknown person or group of people who never revealed himself to the world. He has disappeared for 10 years and may never come back. Thank you Satoshi for your great invention.
Adoption is always increasing and that means more merchants will soon be accepting bitcoin. Just keep holding and soon we will be able to spend our bitcoins anywhere.

Obviously you have to factor in a few seconds to open each thread, type, hit post, and move on, but I think 100/hour is definitely doable when you stop caring at all about meaning or logical progression of the thread.

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April 21, 2019, 10:04:36 AM
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Experiment Archives
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59 posts in 60 minutes. Not bad!
Your posts are still far better than the average spammer who hasn't earned any Merit. As I wrote from my Mobile:
So many high ranking users who I've never seen before suddenly pop up all over the place.
Account farmers from back in the days are just waiting for an opportunity to turn all those idle accounts into a profit.
If I remember correctly, there are about 10,000 high-ranking accounts, most of which hasn't earned a single Merit. Without plagiarism it takes a lot of time to get them banned for spamming and have them run out of accounts.



I had another idea: I can create an ignore list with certain criteria: All accounts that created more than X posts in the past Y days and earned less than Z Merit will be added. Say X=50, Y=30 and Z=2, or X=200, Y=180 and Z=1. Criteria can be adjusted as needed, and this list can also be used to report spammers.
Is anyone interested in such a list?

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April 21, 2019, 10:10:40 AM
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Your 3-parameter combination looks good, but it will lead to nothing.
- campaigns run by companies that decide their requirements (merit requirements), not the forum (so far).
- if there is no demotions on old generations, your tool will not make sense.
It might  be better if account's profile page provides some information on each account, total posts, post per day rate.
Like this:

I don't know that the new forum software will include this one or not.

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April 21, 2019, 06:43:54 PM
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$30 or $60 an hour is actually pretty good in first world countries. In third world countries, this is enough for a days expenses.
This is not a day expense in a third world country, but its an expense of a month according to World Data.

Up to $62 an hour income could be a monthly income for these countries > Ethiopia, Afghanistan, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Madagascar

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April 21, 2019, 10:21:15 PM
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$30 or $60 an hour is actually pretty good in first world countries. In third world countries, this is enough for a days expenses.
I live in EU country, and minimal hourly wage here is about $4. 1 hour of intensive spamming would bring same earnings as you would do dirty jobs in factory for 2 days. I'm not even talking about third world countries - you can become rich and earn for a fancy living just by spamming here without putting any effort. No surprise that therevare so many people who are "working" full time on Bitcointalk instead of going to common job.




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April 22, 2019, 12:34:11 AM
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$30 or $60 an hour is actually pretty good in first world countries. In third world countries, this is enough for a days expenses.

I’ve already started to see posts that clearly don’t know what they are talking about and/or clearly haven’t read much more than the thread title.

It's pretty good - but the rate at which you need to be posting to reach this.. You'll go mad in a couple days..

@actmyname did you have these posts "pre-prepared" / ready? (1 post a minute is insanity..)
Out of curiosity, how many accounts are you posting from with their signature?

I'm not doing that, thanks for asking.. I have much better things to do.. What about you?.. (I know you're probably not either)

It's pretty good - but the rate at which you need to be posting to reach this.. You'll go mad in a couple days..

@actmyname did you have these posts "pre-prepared" / ready? (1 post a minute is insanity..)
I actually took my time on certain posts. The hour went by quicker than I thought: the experiential time felt like 20 minutes.

Haha no kidding.. Well that goes to show it's much less time intensive than many believe it is/much easier than many are led to believe.
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