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July 05, 2019, 01:48:02 AM |
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Hey ! Dt As Nitrodice admin already said he have invested 100,000$ He also said he showed all his legemancy to lengendry member ! But i cant get you why you try to prove site scam ?? why you again - again talking about 16btc ! Here i little thinked about this topic ! Expample :: someone invested $1000 so how would you think they allow you $10,000 bets ? In nitrodice admin sets his max bet with his bankroll ! And im not a high rollor i dont know max but as you i played with doge and got my many withdrawls ! In doge high max bet is 10,000 dogecoins ! And also in max bet their maybe like this ! And you even not deposited $1 and you trying to say 200,000$ withdraw you want ??
I'm not trying to prove the site is a scam. I already did so back in April of 2018. As of right now they're willing to take a 1 BTC bet a 19.9x multiplier. Even if they have invested 100k USD (~8.6 BTC), they would need 3780 BTC to run at a 1x Kelly based on their 0.5% house edge. I would bet that they have 20 BTC at the most; probably much lower. If they can prove a 400 BTC bankroll, I will remove my negative trust. They would still be shady and likely unsustainable running at around 10x Kelly, but it's a start. I don't need to deposit $1 to use math. Hellow!!, I dont understand what your means by showing 1 btc bet and saying if someone wins 19x (19) btc they pay ? 1) iam a player ! I played their so much time and 5 withdrawals!! 2) you dont need to deposit $1 but your expectations is betting 1btc and win on 19x ( profit 19 btc ) 3) in someof way mabe you right like why they have 1 btc max bet !! Maybe their are no deposited too high amount thats why !! Maybe they will update it !! 4) you can ask proof dirctly as he also said dont show in public !! Just contact him in pm on telegram !! Its just takes 5 mintues to prove eveything :-) With respect!! I'm assuming worst case here. For example, if someone offered a 30 million multiplier and accepted up to 1 BTC bets, it would almost certainly never be hit, but you know it's a scam because if someone wins, they would just disappear. No one has 30 million Bitcoin and it is impossible to feasibly get 30 million Bitcoin. This is an extreme example, but you get the point. Someone willing to risk 50-100% of their bankroll on one bet doesn't understand how to run a casino, will exit scam if someone wins, and/or all of the above. I've already offered them a very generous offer - all they need to show is that they are only stupid enough to run a 10x kelly (~400 BTC, and it's a value that is probably still -EBG though I haven't done the math for it) and I will remove my negative trust. If they want to prove it, they can go ahead. For comparison of their 18 BTC max profit (19 BTC max payout), here's a comparison of other well known dice sites: PrimeDice - 30 BTC max payout BitDice - 11.1 BTC max profit Nitrogen - 12 BTC max profit bustadice - 38.3 BTC max profit Crypto-Games - 6.3 BTC max profit BitVest - 2 BTC max profit YOLODice - 10.8 BTC max profit FreeBitco.in - 20 BTC max profit They can afford more about the same amount of losses as Nitrogen and Crypto-Games combined. I find this incredibly hard to believe that they have more bankroll money than two very well established casinos (with Crypto-Games having public investments).
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tortic25
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July 05, 2019, 02:20:33 AM |
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yeah this is obv a scam. admin didn't payout in the past made a new forum account offering more then he owns for payouts
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Youthhub (OP)
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July 05, 2019, 06:40:43 AM |
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yeah this is obv a scam. admin didn't payout in the past made a new forum account offering more then he owns for payouts
Lol Just SHUT UP!! 1) did you even played their deposited anything ? 2) second iam not admin !! Sites on since 2017 3) dont use "scam" if you dont recive scam!! If you dont deposited anything how can you say its a scam !! Even you all legendry members dont try to deposit $1 !! First deposit, play then withdraw !! If you got problem/ ( withdaw not recived) then prove me wrong i will close this topic !! Get the hell out of here I dont care if you play or not! Iam user! And i recived my 6+ withdrawals ( so i made a thread for them )
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July 05, 2019, 06:47:49 AM |
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Hey ! Dt As Nitrodice admin already said he have invested 100,000$ He also said he showed all his legemancy to lengendry member ! But i cant get you why you try to prove site scam ?? why you again - again talking about 16btc ! Here i little thinked about this topic ! Expample :: someone invested $1000 so how would you think they allow you $10,000 bets ? In nitrodice admin sets his max bet with his bankroll ! And im not a high rollor i dont know max but as you i played with doge and got my many withdrawls ! In doge high max bet is 10,000 dogecoins ! And also in max bet their maybe like this ! And you even not deposited $1 and you trying to say 200,000$ withdraw you want ??
I'm not trying to prove the site is a scam. I already did so back in April of 2018. As of right now they're willing to take a 1 BTC bet a 19.9x multiplier. Even if they have invested 100k USD (~8.6 BTC), they would need 3780 BTC to run at a 1x Kelly based on their 0.5% house edge. I would bet that they have 20 BTC at the most; probably much lower. If they can prove a 400 BTC bankroll, I will remove my negative trust. They would still be shady and likely unsustainable running at around 10x Kelly, but it's a start. I don't need to deposit $1 to use math. Hellow!!, I dont understand what your means by showing 1 btc bet and saying if someone wins 19x (19) btc they pay ? 1) iam a player ! I played their so much time and 5 withdrawals!! 2) you dont need to deposit $1 but your expectations is betting 1btc and win on 19x ( profit 19 btc ) 3) in someof way mabe you right like why they have 1 btc max bet !! Maybe their are no deposited too high amount thats why !! Maybe they will update it !! 4) you can ask proof dirctly as he also said dont show in public !! Just contact him in pm on telegram !! Its just takes 5 mintues to prove eveything :-) With respect!! I'm assuming worst case here. For example, if someone offered a 30 million multiplier and accepted up to 1 BTC bets, it would almost certainly never be hit, but you know it's a scam because if someone wins, they would just disappear. No one has 30 million Bitcoin and it is impossible to feasibly get 30 million Bitcoin. This is an extreme example, but you get the point. Someone willing to risk 50-100% of their bankroll on one bet doesn't understand how to run a casino, will exit scam if someone wins, and/or all of the above. I've already offered them a very generous offer - all they need to show is that they are only stupid enough to run a 10x kelly (~400 BTC, and it's a value that is probably still -EBG though I haven't done the math for it) and I will remove my negative trust. If they want to prove it, they can go ahead. For comparison of their 18 BTC max profit (19 BTC max payout), here's a comparison of other well known dice sites: PrimeDice - 30 BTC max payout BitDice - 11.1 BTC max profit Nitrogen - 12 BTC max profit bustadice - 38.3 BTC max profit Crypto-Games - 6.3 BTC max profit BitVest - 2 BTC max profit YOLODice - 10.8 BTC max profit FreeBitco.in - 20 BTC max profit They can afford more about the same amount of losses as Nitrogen and Crypto-Games combined. I find this incredibly hard to believe that they have more bankroll money than two very well established casinos (with Crypto-Games having public investments). As you already joined group !! You can direct ask (Q) here !! Till Nitrodice is legit for me and for all users ! I will still play their !!
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kingpin4321
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July 05, 2019, 08:55:36 AM |
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Does this relate to nitrogen gambling in any way. Project comes up with schemes that is in very close resemblance with big existing site just to confuse customers. Well I don't partake with site that tries to mimic others
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Youthhub (OP)
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July 05, 2019, 10:19:51 AM |
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Does this relate to nitrogen gambling in any way. Project comes up with schemes that is in very close resemblance with big existing site just to confuse customers. Well I don't partake with site that tries to mimic others
Hello Ita not related to nitrogen in any way !! Btw its not a official thread of NITRODICE.COM its just a honest review from my side!!
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LimLims
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July 05, 2019, 12:41:24 PM |
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I wonder who gave bump to this thread. If that user is the admin, then i have few questions for him. Why did he remain so active here? Also i can't see anywhere that, any kind of promotions going on from the site. So now suddenly you want users to visit your site? I would advise everyone to not use their personal credentials, as this maybe a scam attempt. Be careful.
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July 05, 2019, 02:20:20 PM |
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Lol you guys !! How you got your lengery membership ! Atleast do some reseach before talking anything !! NITRODICE bought it Seuntjie Dicebot !! Everything is Good here !! Just your mind is full of spams !! For comfirmations you can check seuntzie website list !! Who bought seunjie bots !!
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July 05, 2019, 02:38:55 PM |
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Interesting, thank you but what is d'Alembert, Labouchère, Martingale and Fibonacci? Why the bot doesn't calculate the probabilities? it would be more interesting..
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July 05, 2019, 02:56:48 PM |
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I guess maybe the problem wasn't understood? Darkstar (who is an expert casino user by the way, he has been around crypto casinos for years) tries to tell you that just because you haven't had that many issues with withdrawals just yet doesn't mean you are not running a shady business, there is a limit of how much a person can win in many casinos, for example primedice allows you to win at most 30 bitcoins and nothing more, you can't win 31 bitcoins or more in primedice, the reason being is that they set aside a bankroll for the casino and only allow a small portion of it to be won with just one bet.
Darkstar is trying to tell you that what you set aside is not small portion of the max winnable amount, its just too much of it, and thats why you either have to have a smaller max win or have a bigger bankroll. Simple as that.
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July 05, 2019, 03:05:20 PM |
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2) second iam not admin !! Sites on since 2017
🤔🤔🤔 https://i.imgur.com/BwTzXFJ.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/ESOiceE.pngFor someone that's not an admin, it's really odd that you're an admin in their Telegram group, constantly posting promotional things about NitroDice, giving support to users, and referring to NitroDice with "our". You can pay Seuntjie to add your site to his bot. This doesn't make someone shady.
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plast555
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July 05, 2019, 03:23:15 PM |
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I am one of the luck snobs that had the fortune of dealing with Nitrodice in the past. 10 days of customer support hell and hundreds of email later, I still didnt get what they owe me. I will not release any info further because my privacy is at stake..
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July 05, 2019, 04:30:58 PM |
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Yes !! On 2nd july he made mods of chat "to keep chat clean ! As he not active all time) for your comformatiom you can read 2nd july chat others reactions when i become mod!! And this thread made like month ago !! When iam user !! As also in chat i give you honest reply contact admin !! Who is official iam just a modrator !! As im the MODS Now so its duty to being humble with users and reffer them/show them their rights / help them !!
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July 05, 2019, 04:40:45 PM |
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I guess maybe the problem wasn't understood? Darkstar (who is an expert casino user by the way, he has been around crypto casinos for years) tries to tell you that just because you haven't had that many issues with withdrawals just yet doesn't mean you are not running a shady business, there is a limit of how much a person can win in many casinos, for example primedice allows you to win at most 30 bitcoins and nothing more, you can't win 31 bitcoins or more in primedice, the reason being is that they set aside a bankroll for the casino and only allow a small portion of it to be won with just one bet.
Darkstar is trying to tell you that what you set aside is not small portion of the max winnable amount, its just too much of it, and thats why you either have to have a smaller max win or have a bigger bankroll. Simple as that.
Yes !! Im someof way you/dt right As i also give dt direct contact to admin!! If will report back !! Like iam a user! If i recive scam from a site then i speak rase w concern and speak loudly everywhere that site is scam!! But when i reciving my deposits and withdrawals so its imposible for me to prove that site is scam !! I play on nitrodice, stake, sometime bitsler !! So i cant/never they all are scam !! Try to understand my point view too
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nakamura12
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July 05, 2019, 07:34:34 PM |
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@op: Not every site that you really did received your withdrawal amount or the amount you deposit credited to your account doesn't mean it's not a scam or a shady site. For example, I have dice site then you did get what you wanted to withdraw and when someone won huge amount of BTC or someone wanted to withdraw huge amount if BTC then I made an exit scam and the person who want to withdraw his/her funds get nothing. I suggest that you contact the admin and tell to clarify some questions if the site owner is not hiding something from everyone. No offense there but i'm not on anyone's side just voicing out my opinion.
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December 27, 2019, 02:13:57 PM |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5212443.0 here you can read my post about this Nitrodice "fairness" don't recommend play there. while owner will not confirm some kind of leak in their RNG and fix this issues.
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game-protect
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December 28, 2019, 12:06:53 PM |
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What is the name of the company that operates Nitrodice?
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